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Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 2, 2010 - 11:17am PT
somehow i don't think this crowd is going to be easy on these noobs. in their defense, it sounds like they wound up at the trail's dead-end on the wrong side of split rock and panicked.

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/lost_and_found/lost_rack__echo_cliffs_nov_27th/106973762
pc

climber
Dec 2, 2010 - 11:31am PT
If it wasn't true it would have been a decent troll.

survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Dec 2, 2010 - 11:32am PT
Classic!

What's that Lassie? Timmy and his friends are lost in the hills above Sherwood Country Club?! And it is 2 miles north, south, or east to the nearest road in the RAIN! Quick, where's Arnold, we have to get to the chopper.
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Dec 2, 2010 - 11:44am PT
lost in Malibu how scary.
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Dec 2, 2010 - 11:46am PT
Feckin' touching the void man, touching the void.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Dec 2, 2010 - 11:55am PT
Touching the void part 2.

Poster transattic
On Saturday night Nov. 27, I along with 2 friends were climbing in Echo Cliffs. Due to loss of daylight/visibility mixed in with the heavy rain we were unable to hike back to the lot (Sandstone Peak) getting horribly lost. We had to leave gear behind in a last ditch effort for survival in search for any kind of shelter. By 3am Sunday morning, we were rescued by getting airlifted by the Ventura Sheriff helicopter. We had left the gear along the riverbed down there somewhere. Wish I can be more specific but left a trail of neon orange tape around in the case we were able to get back to it. The rack included:

1 BD harness, 1 black harness, 1 bike helmet, 1 reverso, 2 trango equalizers, 2 atcs, 1 pair green Evolv shoes, around 10 biners locking/non-locking, assorted runners, orange/yellow Evolv chalkbag, etc…

If found, please PM.

Help another fellow climber recover what was lost in a due to unfortunate circumstances. Thanks!!!




All I can tell you is that my each of us had been to Echo Cliffs once before. One friend (3 of us stranded) had previously escorted out a couple of friends (not stranded) 3 hours earlier and was familiar with the trails. But as soon as it hit 4pm it got dark and started raining. We didn't have any waterproof jackets or boots. With weak 10-30 lumen flashlights (1 headlamp), we hiked back the way we thought we came. At a certain point on the trail we hit a dead end. After searching for 30 mins for the main trail, we hesitantly decided to take the riverbed, which should have led us to the picnic tables thus the main trail. A friend was carrying the rack on his shoulder (not in a backpack) that required steadying with one hand, on the other hand, there was a flashlight. The riverbed rocks were slippery and we could not rely on our feet at all. Visibility dropped dramatically as my glasses fogged up from the 40 degree F and showering rain. Every step we took we created the new path. We had to break branches, stomp vegatation, walk through streams, and such. After all this struggling, my friend wanted me to throw away my 50-pound pack, but I refused. He instead tossed the rack so he could stay balanced, free a hand, and prevent any more ensnaring from the wild branches/thorns. That was a good idea at the time. Finally, after 3 hours of hiking in this freezing, hopeless condition (talking about going 1/5th the normal speed), we decided to take shelter in a tiny cave. Luckily someone else had already stayed here before as we could tell from a wooden plank covering the top of the cave held by a wooden pole. We could not build a fire with any dry leaves, branches, or kindling we found nearby. Even after shaving twigs for an hour, the lighter could only burn some topo printouts and subway wrapping, but the tinder would just cherry out. Luckily, I pulled out a dry northface down jacket, which I gave to a friend. I had a nylon thermal long sleeve and pants, which I threw on. My second friend had it the worst as he was only wearing a thin wind breaker, 2 tee's, and pants. Still drenched and with a fire, we huddled closely throughout the night. The time went by slowly without a chance of sleep. At 2:30am, my friend heard a chopper in the distance and started yelling for us to get out there and signal with our flashlights. I was so delirious that I tried to ignore his words in an attempt to doze off and maintain the little warmth I had left. Of course, we eventually got up and strobed our lights, and they quickly located our base. After the helicopter made it's third round, the ranger dropped down and guided us to the highest ground around. After a 10min hike,b the chopper was hovering along the edge of the hill where we had to climb in one by one. We got a 30 second ride to the parking lot where my brother, friend, and sheriffs were waiting to greet us. The End.

Lesson of story: leave 2-3 hours earlier than the expected sunset since it is a canyon, and everyone should pack enough equipment for survival.

And a special thanks to those who did not judge me and offered their assistance. Everyone else should have hearts like yours.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2010 - 11:58am PT
i think it's probably a case of gym climbers' first encounter with real mountains and bad weather.

say what you will about the sierra club, they will teach navigating in the mountains to an urban membership and these guys sure coulda used that.
neversummer

Mountain climber
perris, cali
Dec 2, 2010 - 12:12pm PT
whos goin huntin' with me 50-50 on the gear split
spenchur

Boulder climber
oak park
Dec 2, 2010 - 12:13pm PT
this is better than any morning news story. im gonna read this again later with beer in hand for proper entertainment value.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Dec 2, 2010 - 12:15pm PT
glad they made it out alright. he frumy you up for echo this wednesday?
Snowmonkey

Ice climber
San Carlos, CA
Dec 2, 2010 - 12:20pm PT
According to original thread, there is about 50lb worth of gear.
Or else this is best troll in a long while ...
Iron Mtn.

Trad climber
Corona, Ca.
Dec 2, 2010 - 12:20pm PT
Danny Boyle is all over this. The working title for the movie is "8 3/4 hours."

Ha Ha!

Christ, is this post for real? I sprained my ankle at The Cemetery in Apple Valley one time and hobbled back one mile to the car without a rescue.
Go back to the gym for God's sake....
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2010 - 12:25pm PT
i don't know where sean penn lives, but wayne gretzky's mansion is a good five miles away. it really is the heart of the santa monica mountains wilderness, such as it is, but the trails are well-defined, there isn't much else besides chaparral and creek beds, and these guys obviously didn't know the parameters of the area they were in. it's about a 40-minute hike in to echo.

i've been there too many times to try to put myself in their shoes. i'm going back to when i was 18 years old and tromped a beeline through the northwoods of wisconsin, hit a dirt road, and followed it to a backcountry tavern where the live music was fun and funky and they gave me something warm to drink while they called the sheriff who told my dad i was okay.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2010 - 12:31pm PT
i guess you could check with the sheriff to see if it's a troll. i'd do that before going down there and coming out with ticks sticking to my poison oak burns.

btw, the recent rains have brought out a bumper crop of ticks. i wear gaiters for the bushwhacks around here--people ask me if i'm expecting snow.
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Dec 2, 2010 - 12:34pm PT



I would have slept in the riverbed and slunk out in the morning... killing any witnesses I found on the trail.



OK... that being said... I grew up (literally) in that canyon and I can actually understand getting disoriented in the dark around there. Santa Monica Mountain canyoneering with loads of water actually running down everything + no visibility can get a bit sketch. I still don't understand ditching the gear, and no way I would ever call for a rescue if it was just one night of misery.

As a kid I got rescued by helicopter from a steep, totally inaccessible canyon off Encinal Canyon near there. It goes all the way to the beach and has some great waterfalls no one ever sees. Sun went down, zero visibility, and a panicky stubborn hiking partner who totally wigged out and caused an all-night epic. We would have been totally fine hiking out once the sun came up but the parental-units freaked out (understandably) and called in the search dogs. Helicopter scooped us up in the morning from the top of a large boulder. I was like...12... so that's my excuse.


Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 2, 2010 - 12:34pm PT
Some people should never leave the gym...
if they can find it.


This can't possibly be for real, can it?
murcy

climber
sanfrancisco
Dec 2, 2010 - 12:36pm PT
Brings back memories of a harrowing Golden Gate Park epic. Dude, I think that's the SAME paddle-boat rental place as before!
Gene

Social climber
Dec 2, 2010 - 12:38pm PT
Should this be cross-posted to the Onion favorites thread?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 2, 2010 - 12:39pm PT
Yeah, But you're talkin' the backcountry without a blue camalot, Murcy!
rincon

Trad climber
SoCal
Dec 2, 2010 - 12:45pm PT
i guess you could check with the sheriff to see if it's a troll.

Guess you missed this link...http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=43780

The Ventura County Sheriff Search and Rescue have been very busy plucking people lately!

During past two weeks, people have been getting lost in the Ventura County backcountry on a regular basis. At least 13 people have gotten lost or stranded and needed to be rescued at night by the Sheriff's Department helicopter crew or the volunteer search and rescue teams.


A second storm developed this past weekend and stranded 3 rock climbers in the Santa Monica Mountains near the Los Angeles County line close to Echo Cliffs. A friend of the group telephoned the Sheriff's Department at 1:00 a.m. and reported the group over due and missing. The Sheriff's helicopter was dispatched and located the climbers stranded in an impassable ravine, lost, wet and cold. The helicopter was able to drop off a crewmember who hiked to the stranded climbers and escorted them back to the helicopter where they were hover loaded and flown back to their vehicle.

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