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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 23, 2010 - 08:17pm PT
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As President of our local homeowners association, I have the
responsibility of caring for a small park with 10 medium size trees.
For years now we have paid a company about $800 annually to "inject" the trees.
They were never sick that I could tell.
The company doing the injections of course has all kinds of warnings of
possible bad things happening if I say no to further treatments.
I have done some research online and run across an impartial study done that
strongly challenges the supposed benefits of tree injections.
Anyone have experience with this kind of horticulture?
Is it really necessary to supply chemical nutrients to otherwise healthy
looking trees just to insure that they stay healthy?
Last thing I want to do is stop the treatments and then catch hell if a
tree starts to get sick.
Any expert opinions?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 23, 2010 - 08:39pm PT
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Try a glycophosphate fertilizer.
Monsanto makes one called Roundup.
Seriously, do a vertical mulch.
With a posthole digger dig holes as deep as you can every three feet or so around the dripline of the tree.
Fill with horseshit or other non "hot" manure or compost.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 23, 2010 - 08:45pm PT
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Ask a certified arborist, both as to how healthy the trees are, and what care and maintenance they need. Watering, aeration, fertilizer, anti-pest treatments, trimming, etc. Including "injections".
Fill with horseshit or other non "hot" manure or compost.
Available on the conspiracy, political and religious threads without charge.
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Gene
Social climber
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Nov 23, 2010 - 08:49pm PT
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Chat with the folks at your local friendly nursery.
Depending on where you live, there may be an ag-extension office with your county, local junior college, state college, etc.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Nov 23, 2010 - 09:37pm PT
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Where's Matthew Moore?? Hey Matthew post up on this one! Wendell wants to kill the suckers, that would take care of the problem of injecting and expense, but HOA's usually like pretty little tress and bushes and paying out the butt to maintain them.....so TGT's suggestion sounds pretty good to me!
Peace
Edit: If they are indigenous trees they probably don't need any care other than rain water!.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Nov 23, 2010 - 10:19pm PT
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What a bunch of bullsh#t...! Tree Injections...give me a break...i had a friend plant aspens in front of his house to block the veiw of a road..he was fertilizing the aspens and i was worried that the fertilizer wood kill the aspens...the aspens took off like jack's beanstalk and are still prospering 15 years later...just tell the injector guy to shove the needle up his ass..
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Nov 23, 2010 - 10:20pm PT
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And give him LEBs phone #
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Nov 23, 2010 - 10:50pm PT
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Norton...would you take advice from someone that votes republican?
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Nov 23, 2010 - 10:51pm PT
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Seems like trees surrounded by asphalt or cement might have trouble getting enough nutrients. But I ain't no expert.
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sempervirens
Trad climber
Trinity County
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Nov 24, 2010 - 12:52am PT
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LEB makes a cute analogy with the feeding tube but since trees and people are slightly different types of organisms they may not react the same. The analogy just isn't logical or useful. I'm pretty sure that humans cannot photosynthesize and trees don't have intestines. No, I'm really sure.
I agree with Timid top rope, i.e., it depends. Why should all species of trees react the same when they grow in different regions, different habitats, reproduce differently, etc. Why should every tree of the same species react the same if it is in a different habitat? Example, White alder grows only near streams in California, but in western Oregon (where its wet a lot of the year) it can dominate a clear cut hill side. See my point?
There are many kinds of pathogens that may attack your trees, but it doesn't sound like you're having those problems. If you are take some photos, post 'em up. I think this is an interesting OT question.
Do a little more homework. What species of tree(s)? Are they native to the area? What's their preferred habitat? Sunset's Western Gardening is one reference to start with.
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go-B
climber
Matthew 25:40
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Nov 24, 2010 - 01:03am PT
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Trees are established in about five years, and don't need much care after that unless they show signs of problems.
They like a good deep watering then let them dry out before you water again, light surface watering, as in a lawn or over watering can cause there own problems.
Compacted soil or mulch covering the trunk above ground level are also bad. To much fertilizer can burn the foliage, If it ain't broke don't fix it!
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bmacd
Trad climber
100% Canadian
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Nov 24, 2010 - 08:28am PT
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bend over farther and you can just take the injection yourself
btw advice is not spelled with an 's'
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
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Nov 24, 2010 - 08:34am PT
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WhyinHell would trees need oxygen?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 24, 2010 - 01:07pm PT
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Pay him what he wants. Don't take any chances.
Don't let this happen to you.
I could have avoided all this if I had only listened to the guy selling the tree injections.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Nov 24, 2010 - 01:54pm PT
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bend over farther
LOL
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2010 - 07:53pm PT
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but seemingly brilliant about this stuff
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scuffy b
climber
Three feet higher
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Nov 24, 2010 - 07:54pm PT
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murrayana
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 24, 2010 - 08:11pm PT
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Perhaps the trees just need to be hugged occasionally. Maybe play a little Mozart for them, too.
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