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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 5, 2010 - 03:44am PT
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Apparently now, believing in GOD and having Christian faith, and using the true name of GOD, YAHWEH, and the using the true name of Jesus Christ, YESHUA, puts the DoJ on alert, and indicates terrorism and Criminal Extremism.
From the actual DoJ Terrorism Book:
Yahweh/Yeshua: Names referring to God and Jesus, respectively, often used by Christian Identity followers.
And no mention of Allah.
Really? What is this Country coming to? There are so many terms in this book that are good and wholesome, yet they are placing them and associating them now with terrorism and Criminal Extremism.
Unbelievable. Our Country is truly getting down-right scary.
DoJ Terrorism and Criminal Extremism Terms and Concepts Guide
http://publicintelligence.net/doj-terrorism-and-criminal-extremism-terms-and-concepts-guide/
Here is the actual DoJ download of the Book:
Investigating Terrorism and Criminal Extremism, Terms and Concepts
http://info.publicintelligence.net/DoJTerrorismCriminalExtremismTerms.pdf
Here are some very inciteful and aware posters commenting on this book by the DoJ:
http://publicintelligence.net/doj-terrorism-and-criminal-extremism-terms-and-concepts-guide/
escapefromobamastan said:
Well hell, I guess we’re ALL terrorists now…
Mark Gailey said:
This document is in and of itself, the epitome of criminal extremism.
GoodAmerican said:
So the bilderbergs, CFR and the trilateral commision, in which certain members of our elected representation illegally meet in secret to plan world events that time and again go against the will and best interests of the American People is just fine and dandy, but Americans who oppose all this get labled as “patriots”…hmmmm, this list couldnt have been written by these same forces, could it have been?…lol
Peace, in-spite of the liars, like these guys, who would have it otherwise.
Truth spoken . . .
Back @ ya bozos said:
Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.
Romans 14:16
Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Proverbs 17:13
Whoso rewardeth evil for good, evil shall not depart from his house.
Old Uncle Dave said:
Speaking of extremism, how about the “Patriot” Act?
Truth spoken . . .
Brad said:
If you go to the “Y” section you’ll see that the names of my God and the Messiah are listed as terms used by terrorists and extremists… but if you go to the “A” section there is no mention of Allah. This should prove two things: 1. That there is no REAL Islamic terrorist threat (aka Al-CIA-duh) hence stuff like NY Mosque is a manufactured crisis/distraction, and 2. The real target of anti-terror legislation is American Christians.
Ance again, from the actual DoJ Terrorism Book:
Yahweh/Yeshua: Names referring to God and Jesus, respectively, often used by Christian Identity followers.
And no mention of Allah.
Wow, Christians, American Christians are now Terrorists. Unbelievable.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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You sound surprised...
Finally pulled yer head out of your arse eh?
(I mean that in a light-hearted, duh, gee willickers, gosh darn, kind of way...).
Cheers,
DD
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2010 - 04:00am PT
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Oct 5, 2010 - 12:49am PT
It's about damn time.
No more discrimination. Treat all religions equally, goddammit!
Stzzo,
Let me get this straight.
You want all religion and faiths treated as terrorists?
I'm not happy that any religion or faith is ending up in a DoJ Book on Terrorism and Criminal Extremism.
This is nothing more than facism.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Dude it's just another book...maybe even as scary as the one you cut and pasted...
Why is your book any less threatening?
What I find interesting is that terrorism always seems to have a religious connection. You ever notice that?
Cheers,
DD
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2010 - 04:16am PT
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Stzzo,
You are clueless. Look at page 4 of the pdf. This publication was done through a grant for the federal agencies listed.
Also page 5 -6 lists the names associated with the study. Is it your point of view this publication is in no way associated with the federal agencies listed on pg 4?
http://info.publicintelligence.net/DoJTerrorismCriminalExtremismTerms.pdf
This project was supported by Grant No. 2007-NC-BX-K002 awarded by the Bureau of Justice Assistance. The Bureau of Justice Assistance is a component of the Office of Justice Programs, which also includes the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the National Institute of Justice, the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, and the Office for Victims of Crime. Points of view or opinions in this document are those of the author and do not represent the official position or policies of the U.S. Department of Justice.
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squatch
Boulder climber
santa cruz, CA
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Stonemasters 5.13
Thou shalt challenge gravity on pillars of granite
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2010 - 04:32am PT
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Um, Klimmer... the end of that paragraph says the document is in NO way the opinion or viewpoint of the US Department of Justice... just sayin'
Yea, and that is the same logic used by the Shrub Administration on the Torture Memos.
"Well, we didn't write it. We asked John Yoo to write the legal memo for us. He wrote it and we just abidded by it. Gee wilikers, it wasn't our fault. ;-)"
They gave the grant to have this document written. They are directly tied to the document. It is a document used by the agency. They also have allowed their logos to be placed on the document.
Pull your heads out.
Seems you all are trying to justify this wicked document, or trying to dismiss it as not being real. You are wrong on both accounts.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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"And I am almost certainly not rational when I am exhausted... so don't EXPECT me to be."
Ya but but...rocky, you kind of sound rational now...and that IS strange
nighty night wolfie:-)
DD
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426
climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Damn, stzzo put the interwebz smackdown on--good fact checking. Speaking of fact....Ya, there are Xian terrorists, case in point Eric Rudolph, a local hero to some. People in east TN and NC helped him hide and bomb. Get over it klims, best to just shut er down and delete the thread at this point...
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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You want all religion and faiths treated as terrorists?
Yes, and extortionists. Don't forget that extortion lies at the heart of their racket.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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I seem to recall seeing something very similar that came out right after the Waco, TX barbeque..about religious cults in America. The same phraseology was used, the words "Yaweh", "Yeshua," etc. as identifiers. That document was published by the ADL, and was supported by the FBI.
All I'm saying here, is: "what goes around comes around." I dislike seeing ANY religion smeared or tarred with an exceedingly wide brush.
When asked as to my beliefs, I simply state:"Moral philosopher." I do not attend church, or belong to any denomonational faith.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2010 - 10:51am PT
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"In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics and I did not speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me."
--Pastor Martin Niemoller (1892 - 1984)
This quotation is widely used to voice the need for unity and supporting one another under authoritarian governments and is a popular model for describing the dangers of political apathy. Repression always begins with specific and targeted fear and hatred which soon escalates to encompass more and more targeted groups.
Do you guys not understand this? Do you all get this yet? This is the danger.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Martin Niemoller wound up in a concentration camp, along with trade unionists, jews, and homosexuals.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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klimmer believes that 9/11 was a government operation. i do too, for that matter. however klimmer is outraged that "allah" is not on the terrorist hit list while "yahweh" is.
klim, bud, you need to read david ray griffin's new book, cognitive infiltration. i think you're lookin' at an example of it here. there's the shallow interpretation of things, like graniteman takes here, and then there's a deeper, almost satirical reading of it. putting yahweh on the terrorist list is actually closer to the truth, and it's how the truth is being leaked out, ever so intentionally. eventually everyone will be at each other's throats, part of the plan. those who survive the mutual strangulation--close to the ideal planetary population given on the georgia guidestones--will march forward into an entirely comfortable future. the only inconvenience will be waiting in line for saucer rides with our satronian and ummonian friends. and they'll all be praising jesus with us, sure as shootin'.
if you look inside your down sleeping bag, you'll be able to read the real name of god, written in feathers. it isn't "god".
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2010 - 11:04am PT
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Tony,
I'm not upset that Allah isn't on there. It shouldn't be on there. Neither should the name of GOD and my Messiah be on there.
I posted this before and this person said it best . . .
Truth spoken . . .
Brad said:
If you go to the “Y” section you’ll see that the names of my God and the Messiah are listed as terms used by terrorists and extremists… but if you go to the “A” section there is no mention of Allah. This should prove two things: 1. That there is no REAL Islamic terrorist threat (aka Al-CIA-duh) hence stuff like NY Mosque is a manufactured crisis/distraction, and 2. The real target of anti-terror legislation is American Christians.
Isn't it glaringly obvious? I thought Islamic Extremism was the Boogeyman. Apparently not. It is American Christians.
I wonder does the Book paid for with a grant from the DoJ include "Truthers" ?
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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so who's behind it all? the jews? i thought yahweh was their word.
i know, the satanic luciferians! at last, the real bad guys! who woulda guessed?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2010 - 11:17am PT
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Last post until the end of the day for me . . .
Tony,
I thought you had gone to a religious college? Do you not know the true name of GOD and Jesus?
True believers and the Jews are one. They just don't know it yet. One day they will awake and GOD will take away the spiritual blinders, and they will awake to the fact that Jesus is indeed their Messiah. This is in prophecy. He always has been their Messiah.
True believers and the Jews are one.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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sad to say, klim, you get a different version of that from every college you go to.
look for that crown of feathers. you'll find it next to schrödinger's cat.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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The only difference between an Islamic Extremist and a Christian Extremist is that the Christians haven't started bombing people...yet.
But now that I think about it, Christians were always more into sado-masochistic torture and burning young girls.
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