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Tea
Trad climber
Behind the Zion Curtain
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 18, 2010 - 02:08am PT
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Anyone got one of these hammers lying around that they would like to turn into some cash?
Cheers.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 18, 2010 - 02:50am PT
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I'd take one as well.
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Linda Jarit
climber
sf
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Jan 18, 2010 - 11:48am PT
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I need one too! I tried a lighter hammer and I definitely preferred using Bryan's McDevitt's hammer.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Jan 18, 2010 - 12:08pm PT
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Wow, Linda’s first post on ST! No way!!! ;) Hey, got your 17/64” collet from Jonny B yesterday…
Got three McDevitt hammers but ain’t lettin’ ‘em go. I love these hammers too – they are pretty much the only ones that I will use.
Maybe we can get Theron to make a small batch, as a CNC-machined head is a lot easier to deal with than a forged head. He’s been sittin’ on my brand new McDevitt hammer for a while now so he’s got something to copy… Theron, whatcha think?
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Tea
Trad climber
Behind the Zion Curtain
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2010 - 12:15pm PT
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Thanks for Posting up Minerals! This hammer was your design, wasn't it?
I am ready to pre-pay for a couple.
Let's make it happen...these hammers fuggin rule.
But could we make the head attachment better for longer life?
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Linda Jarit
climber
sf
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Jan 18, 2010 - 12:18pm PT
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Thanks for the collet Bryan but I REALLY need that hammer...what good is a hurricane drill if I ain't gotta hammer to hit it with???
Theron?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jan 18, 2010 - 12:19pm PT
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Hi Linda!
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Tea
Trad climber
Behind the Zion Curtain
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2010 - 12:23pm PT
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(chant it with me) THERON! THERON! THERON!
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Linda Jarit
climber
sf
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Jan 18, 2010 - 12:24pm PT
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Howdy supertopians...
Guess my needs outweighed my shyness....
no more lurker status! ;)
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Linda Jarit
climber
sf
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Jan 18, 2010 - 12:25pm PT
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THERON THERON THERON
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Jan 18, 2010 - 12:44pm PT
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The Theron God cannot be appeased with chanting, you must provide schematics, and metal sacrifices and HOOKS, LOTS OF HOOKS!!!
:)
You know what's funny, is I bet that BD hammer that's on sale at REI is still sittin there. Everybody wants a D5 or Cali Custom.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Jan 18, 2010 - 01:05pm PT
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Both Dan and I helped to design the hammer and they were produced by Bill Forshee(sp?) in the '90s. Glad you like the hammer, Tea!
I agree that the head attachment could use a little work, but we don’t want to give it a harsh feel – that’s one of the things that I like best about the McDevitt hammer – the feel. I can hand drill all day long with that hammer and it doesn’t vibrate the crap out of my swinging hand. The sharp angles on the head allow for better hammer contact when placing a beak/rurp/etc. in a corner – a rounded hammer head will just glance off the piton.
I find that the striking surface on the head of the BD hammer is too small in area and the surface gets rounded rather quickly; this rounded shape means that the hammer will glance off of a hand drill A LOT more than a hammer with a larger, flat striking surface. I can’t drill with a BD hammer – too frustrating! And too light.
One thing that I have done with my McDevitt hammers is to tap some tico(sp?) nails into the top of the handle to act as a wedge (you know, the short nails used for attaching metal clips (too many A-35s for me…) to lumber when framing a house…). This should help to tighten the head/handle connection. Just make sure that the nail(s) clears the roll-pin.
A few reposts… of the goods…
Theron is the man and he's got the plans!!!
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Tea
Trad climber
Behind the Zion Curtain
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2010 - 01:19pm PT
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You just cited all the exact reasons I dig it. Great Hammer.
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Tea
Trad climber
Behind the Zion Curtain
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 11:48am PT
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bump for Hammer time!
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ryanb
climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 19, 2010 - 01:56pm PT
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Would it be possible to modify the head design to fit the d5 handles/attachment scheme without ruining the feel?
That way the project could piggy back on all of the work already done on that...
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Feb 10, 2014 - 12:36pm PT
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SCORE!!!!
After 6 years of searching, I landed one on ebay.
May be the most obscure wall hammer ever made in the USA.
STOKED!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Feb 10, 2014 - 12:41pm PT
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Ebayaddiction12stepprogram.com
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Feb 10, 2014 - 01:11pm PT
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7 hammers make that statement ring as true as a well placed angle.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Feb 10, 2014 - 07:08pm PT
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I like the design of this hammer. I'd like to try one someday.
My testing of drill rates has led me to conclude that not only does the shape of the bit influence drilling efficiency but the shape of the hammer head does too. I think the hammer head should have an axis of symmetry that is the same as the axis of the impact which this one seems to have. I think that a hammer with a non-symmetric, drooping pick will vibrate. I also think the head should be compact which would mean losing the pick and biner hole which both probably screw up the dynamics.
Machinists seem to have figured this out Ball peen, cross peen and European style machinist's hammers are all symmetric and generally compact.
I think we could make a McDevitt hammer head with a milling machine if we got the alloy right and could heat treat it properly. It looks like it was milled rater than forged or cast.
Only the first hammer in the photo below is symmetric. The OP hammer is a beast to use - the center of mass is low so you always strike at the bottom of the face. The Yosemite hammers are fairly symmetric which may be why people like them. The alpine hammers probably don't hammer very well.
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Raafie
Big Wall climber
Portland, OR
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Feb 10, 2014 - 07:33pm PT
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Photos of your new hammer please?
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