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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 25, 2009 - 12:06pm PT
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This is a don't-miss scientifically correct video depicting Earth’s location in the cosmos from the American Museum of Natural History. Watch in in HD, full-screen. This video--- a four dimensional map---is part of an exhibition “Visions of the Cosmos” now at the Rubin Museum of Art (in Manhattan).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U&feature=player_embedded
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DonC
climber
CA
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Dec 25, 2009 - 12:13pm PT
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wow! Thanks Peter. Sure makes you think about what it all means...
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Dec 25, 2009 - 12:46pm PT
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That was way, way, cool.
So vast I couldn't even begin to imagine comprehension, but I did get the most fleeting of glimmers at the point where it showed the Milky Way and started to go beyond. Perhaps because the Milky Way would be the last part I have any familiarity with, but....wow.
The Rubin museum is three blocks away from me.... closed for today's holiday, but perhaps I will check out the exhibit this weekend.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Top of the 5.2-5.12 Boulder
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Dec 25, 2009 - 02:58pm PT
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Pretty cool shizz, there.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 25, 2009 - 05:26pm PT
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Thanks for posting this link.
It is like the modern update version of the classic film "Powers of Ten."
I will be making a copy of this and burning it to dvd to show my Earth Science class. Very well done. Thanks.
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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Dec 25, 2009 - 10:24pm PT
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Thanks much, Peter!
Truly fascinating! Something that has perplexed, and bewildered me since I was a youth. I always marvel at the fact that more than a million earths could fit inside the Sun. And that our Sun is considered a 'dwarf star'. And compared to 'giant stars' such as Betelgeuse and Antares, which are about 600 times larger than our Sun. And the largest known star Mu Cephei, is over 1,000 times the size of the Sun, and is over one billion times larger than the earth!
And then there's the relation of all of this to the speed of light, which this video defines so well. I'll be wrapping my head around this for some time to come.
Thanks Again! Sincerely, Trip~
EDIT: Correction, VY Canis Majoris-is the largest known star(hyper-star) at an estimated 2,000 times larger than our Sun! Which would make it two billion times larger than the earth. And the largest star in our galaxy(The Milky Way)is Eta Carinae at 400 times larger then our Sun!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Dec 25, 2009 - 10:57pm PT
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over the next ten years it will be remade and even more amazing... with the dark matter and dark energy mapped onto what we know...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 26, 2009 - 02:31pm PT
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MAN IN PINK:
Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown,
And things seem hard or tough,
[clunk]
And people are stupid, obnoxious, or daft,
And you feel that you've had quite enough,
[boom]
[singing]
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go 'round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.
[boom]
[slurp]
The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.
[clunk]
MRS. BROWN: [sigh] Makes you feel so, sort of, insignificant, doesn't it?
MAN: Yeah. Yeah. [sniff] Can we have your liver, then?
MRS. BROWN: Yeah. All right. You talked me into it.
Nice find, Peter! Had to inject a little dark/light matter me self!
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Dec 27, 2009 - 12:02pm PT
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One of my first sensations of the ineffable as a kid was laying on the ground in my sleeping bag watching the stars. Surrounded by vastness, suddenly I was falling backward. Vertigo on solid ground, starting to feel the depth of the Universe, getting a sense of it expanding, running away from us.
"In this sense, in respect to its own information, the Universe must expand to escape the telescopes through which we who are it are trying to capture it. --> --> --> which is us."
from Laws of Form by G. Spencer Brown
And then there's the relation of all of this to the speed of light
Yeah, I like the acceleration in the video, from merely jet speed at the beginning to way, way beyond the speed of light as you fly past the "cosmic horizon" at the end, out past the edge of the known universe.
'Nothing can go faster than the speed of light,' we've always heard. But we just did.
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PhilG
Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
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Dec 27, 2009 - 02:00pm PT
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Peter:
You find the coolest stuff.
Thanks for the post.
For me, "the holidays" are for cosmic reflections.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Dec 28, 2009 - 12:48am PT
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Thanks Peter! I've cross linked this with the Evolution vs Creation thread. The video provides enough thought and beauty to justify both positions.
As I noted there, I'm so glad they zoomed out and back in to earth from the view point of the Himalayas - the center of my cosmology anyway!
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Brendan
Trad climber
Yosemite, CA
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Dec 28, 2009 - 10:28am PT
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awesome!
a lil arrogant to think that we are the only living things out there in allllll that spacetime eh?
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Dec 28, 2009 - 10:49am PT
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I hate it when my, widdu bwain hurts....
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MH2
climber
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Dec 28, 2009 - 06:24pm PT
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Gorgeous.
On the zoom back in I was expecting a man sitting at a table with a mosquito biting his forearm:
Cosmic View: The Universe in 40 Jumps
Kees Boeke
1957
a book for kids I had as a kid
Question to a U of Chicago climber and physics undergrad:
"How big is the universe?"
Answer:
"About 10 to the 80th."
Follow-up question:
"But what units?"
Answer:
"It doesn't really matter."
Courtesy of Gabriel Lombardi who was told by a physics prof, in the 70s, to go into cosmology, "because a lot of stuff is happening there."
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Dec 28, 2009 - 06:37pm PT
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wow, thanks for the share!
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L
climber
A place with poppies & flying monkeys...
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Dec 28, 2009 - 07:18pm PT
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That was Waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy cool, PH! Milky Way cool.
What a gorgeous jewel of a planet we live on, eh?
Thanks for posting this.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
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Dec 28, 2009 - 07:50pm PT
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Peter: Thanks.
"Earth First!"
"We'll climb on all those other planets later!"
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