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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 1, 2009 - 12:47pm PT
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cragnshag
Social climber
san joser
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not pika, hurricane maybe?
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Greg Barnes
climber
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Hurricane.
Worth? Some folks really want those since they have interchangeable collets, so you can use them for high speed steel bits. But of course those folks are dirtbags who might not pony up too much dough...
Minerals might want it, he may be wearing out one or two of his 3 Hurricanes...
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Slabby D
Trad climber
B'ham WA
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What are you asking?
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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That was a Hurricane Mountain Works holder. The company was at Box 452, Hurricane Utah, now defunct.
Probably the best holder made. Has to have the Erickson collet 25/64" for the SDS-plus carbide drills. (1/4, 5/16, 3/8, 1/2). I have the exact same one. A Pika, very similar, is about $58. So it is worth that or perhaps a bit more. Desirable item!
Deucie talked about them on his bigwall site: http://www.deuce4.net/web/HMWbrochure.pdf
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Agree about it being the best holder.
Much better than the ones I had before it, both commercial and homemmade.
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FeelioBabar
Trad climber
One drink ahead of my past.
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I love my Hurkin. Great drill.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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I designed and manufactured those drills back in the mid-90's. I started a separate company from A5, Hurricane Mountain Works, because I had a partner who helped draw the blueprints on his work computer ( TIm Martin, a machinist who worked for Chums --he designed all their complicated robots to insert the little rubber doo-dad's into the Chums fabric eyeglass holders). I was living in Hurricane, Utah at the time, just two doors down from the Chums factory in Hurricane.
The collets are still readily available from this site:
http://metalworking.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNPDFF?PMPAGE=1347&PMITEM=84911189&PMCTLG=54
Just make sure you get the "200 DA" (double acting) collet series.
I designed the Hurricane Drill after returning from a trip to Norway, where I found that you could get plenty of quality rock drilling gear at the regular hardware stores (drills, bolts, etc), but no holders. And of course the metric drills didn't fit into my old Rawl taper drill holders without a lot of grinding. So I designed the interchangeable collet system so you could also use metric drills of any size for any type of rock. I recall in Norway a really nice looking bolt was readily available in the local hardware stores, perhaps nearly 1.5 inches long, and somewhere in between 1/4" and 5/16" (probably 8mm), plus sturdy looking drills to fit, which would have been perfect for a new route I had been attempting on the Troll Wall. The rock is a bit suss on that wall, and the 1/4" ones that I had brought were a bit small. All I would have needed would have been one of these holders with a 8m collet, and I would have been set.
Here's some pics of the early concepts:
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Why is this being posted?
You need the manufacturer so you can call and brag or complain?
Its a drill... drill with it... move on!
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Jingy, I think that fuzzy wants to sell his unit or buy one.
Actually, you need a 25/64 Erickson collet, not 9/32 to go over your SDS-plus carbide drill bits.
MSC # 84911254 or 82318783 (2 different manufacturers of same spec. unit) from www.msc.com
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Always been happey with mine.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Pate: the straw/blowtube Middendorf sent with the drill was superior as well. The black part can be slid in and out to measure the depth of the hole. Furthermore, having it stepped down in size gave room for the crap to blow out.
Ujahn (partner) dropped my Hurricane blow tube this summer from a couple hundred feet up, and the plastic disappeared into the wilderness (insert sad face here)
I replaced it with plastic tube from Home Depot, and it works fine.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Hurricane Mountain Works Wilderness Hand Drill manual in random order.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Probably?
The Hurricane holder is by FAR the BEST holder EVER!!!!
Just do yourself a favor and put a REAL drill bit in the thing, as opposed to one of them SDS (Sure Drills Slow) pieces o’…….
KICK ASS!!!!!!
Thanks for dialing us in, Deucey!
Linda recently scored a brand new Hurricane that was found in Bachar’s house. Look out!!!
“What's the tool with the long new-ish blue sling?”
Cassin? Greg uses one of those but it’s way too light for my taste.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Hey Tom, if that thing is for sale, I’ll give you a hundred bucks for it, and drive up the hill to meet you with a 12-pack!
Bryan
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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“What's the tool with the long new-ish blue sling?”
Yep, Bryan Law nailed that one, Cassin. Lightweight Eurotrash and not really worth much. Made for long moderate routes in the alps where you might need to test or perhaps pound a pin or 2, but don't want to carry any extra weight. I have found that for pounding long bolts in (my primary use for them lately), it won't do the job, in fact, I prefer the long handle Forrest and the heavy Kong Eagle.
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Greg Barnes
climber
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The Cassins were on sale at Sierra Trading post a few years ago for $14.95. I cut about 3" off the end, drilled a hole, swaged attachments, and used it for a "wilderness hammer" since it was very light and compact (it fits in an A5 bolt bag). Works great. I started using it all the time, and now it's wearing down.
I got multiple of them, and I cut another one down ready to go - and after only a few bolts, the head started getting a bit loose. I still need to replace the pin holding the head on.
Anyway, here's what my cut-down one looks like. It's similar in size and weight to a classic old hammer that I borrowed from Greg Schaffer for a while (I think that was an SMC - but I forget).
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Slabby D
Trad climber
B'ham WA
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So why in the hell would a high speed drill bit drill faster than SDS? In both cases you've got a sharp (hopefully) edge at the end of a rod of metal that you're hitting with a hammer. Is it the profile you're grinding onto the HSS bit?
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