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rincon
Trad climber
SoCal
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 23, 2009 - 10:43am PT
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On the Cohn Property lately, there's been alot of shooting. Sure sucks having to hear target shooting all day in the park.
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Nov 23, 2009 - 10:58am PT
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Maybe it will keep the trespassers out
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Steve L
Gym climber
SUR
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Nov 23, 2009 - 11:49am PT
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Those are the sounds of bolt guns.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 23, 2009 - 11:52am PT
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shooting Leavitators?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 23, 2009 - 12:08pm PT
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I wonder if they built the tricked out trap I told them about.
PULL!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 23, 2009 - 12:40pm PT
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I'll bet they don't have any trouble with thieves over there.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 23, 2009 - 12:54pm PT
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I'm a recreational shooter and gun owner.
If I lived on the Cohn property I would certainly have the class to lay low with the gunplay on weekends when the park is full of folks trying to find some peace.
This is the kind of behavior that earns shooters a bad rep.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Nov 23, 2009 - 12:56pm PT
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just be thankful they're not "target shooting" with a 50 caliber chain gun.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Nov 23, 2009 - 01:09pm PT
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barking dogs, insecticide over-spray and target practice. nothing like getting back to that peaceful country life.
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guyman
Trad climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 23, 2009 - 02:35pm PT
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Sure makes a lot of noise... Just saying.
Maybe open up a moto-cross track to, that would bring in a lot of folks.
Just saying...
and what happens, on the 1 million to 1 odds.... a ricochet smacks into a bago in HV???
Just saying...
and we can't use a bolt gun...
Just saying...
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looking sketchy there...
Social climber
Latitute 33
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Nov 23, 2009 - 02:44pm PT
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As long as the bullets stay on the property, no crime committed.
But, as Kris observed, a lot of things that are legal are still pretty poor style -- and probably not the best way of convincing people that gun owners are responsible sort of folks.
As to all RokJox's knee-jerk spew about property owner rights, yada, yada. You are wrong on all counts:
The facts are: the people who live there are not the owners, do not dislike climbers (actually are climbers), etc.
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ninjah
Big Wall climber
a van down by the river
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Nov 23, 2009 - 02:58pm PT
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at least it's not as loud as being on a climb and havein a f-15 test his collision avoidance system by flying strait at the dome your climbing on and then leting the computer turn the jet and to aviod smashing into you and your partner, it happens, and it's very very loud !! screw those those guys! I bet thay where laughing there ass off! But i bet they where not the airforce's best anyway!
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jiimmy
Boulder climber
san diego
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Nov 23, 2009 - 03:03pm PT
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guns made america. guns will keep america
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Nov 23, 2009 - 03:14pm PT
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I just wish it wasn't by invitation only :DD lynnie
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 23, 2009 - 03:15pm PT
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I notice the sound of Bombs going off at Josh too!
Peace
Karl
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 23, 2009 - 03:15pm PT
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" ...But i bet they where not the airforce's best anyway! "
Actually that F-16 mod was piloted by a NASA pilot.
Back on topic, I think one basic of responsible gun ownership is to know when and where to shoot. Disturbing people vacationing in a National Park is not cool.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 23, 2009 - 03:23pm PT
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at least it's not as loud as being on a climb and havein a f-15 test his collision avoidance system by flying strait at the dome your climbing on and then leting the computer turn the jet and to aviod smashing into you and your partner, it happens, and it's very very loud !! screw those those guys! I bet thay where laughing there ass off! But i bet they where not the airforce's best anyway!
Nah,
They were just using you for a little dry fire strafing practice.
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Richard
climber
Bend, OR.
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Nov 23, 2009 - 04:46pm PT
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People have a right to enjoy recreation in whatever way is appeling to themselves.
I'm guessing that some people don't want to see or hear climbers climbing when they want to take a stroll in JTNP.
To each their own!
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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Nov 23, 2009 - 04:48pm PT
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Similar too Ksolem's story:
Topo flying?
Some term like that, for letting the computer guide the aircraft at a given height off topographical features?
Didn't that happen fairly often (BITD) with jets out of Twenty Nine Palms flying in/over the park.
I assume that doesn't happen anymore and has not for many years?
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Big Piton
Trad climber
Ventura
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Nov 23, 2009 - 04:49pm PT
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This is JT at it's best. Bombs, F-16's, gun fire, just like the old days.
Just put down the park pass and go back to the gym.
MMM
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