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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 5, 2009 - 11:17pm PT
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Since the other thread was deleted, I'll start one.
wait....
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115137
remember...so long ago!!!!
Leader of black separatist mosque killed in FBI raid
http://rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=282020&D=2009-10-29&SO=&HC=1
2 wounded as gunmen attack L.A. synagogue
http://rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=282074&D=2009-10-29&SO=&HC=3
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/10/shooting-at-la-synagogue-investigated-as-hate-crime-man-arrested.html
nah!
http://infidelsunite.typepad.com/counter_jihad/2009/09/texas-neighbors-shocked-muslim-terrorist-was-caught.html
yay!!! we'll all get along...
New York convert calls for Jews to die on his website
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,565365,00.html
NY bomb plot had Al Qaeda links to very high individuals
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/15/al-qaeda-ties-exposed-in-nyc-bomb-plot/?feat=home_cube_position4
Infiltrating the Toronto 18 terror cell
http://rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=278149&D=2009-09-03&SO=&HC=2
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/how-a-police-agent-cracked-a-terror-cell/article1273958/
American muslim gave Al Qaida NY subway info and attacked US base in Afghan
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090722/ap_on_re_us/us_american_al_qaida
No to Capitalism, Yes to Islam!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533525,00.html
http://www.investigativeproject.org/1100/hizb-ut-tahrir-shariah-takes-precedence-over-us
Looks like Al Qaeda has a new strategy and a book called,”Governance in the Wilderness”, that details this new strategy.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07012008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/al_qaedas_plan_b_117936.htm?page=0
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-07-11-alqaeda-fire_x.htm
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2008/01/15/forest-fire-jihad-being-threatened-on-terrorist-websites/
nothing to see here...move along, put head in sand...
http://207.114.86.27/poparticle.php?ID=282642&D=2009-11-06&SO=&HC=1
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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I have discovered an even greater scourge. Muslim lightening. Yes, you heard right. Religious lightening strikes kill on average 90 people in America every year.
Then there are all those "accidental poisonings"
Poisoning 19,457 per year. One American accidentally poisoned to death every 27 minutes
Ha.. accidental my ass. It has to be the muslims.
Run for your life. Don't eat at McMuslims. They will accidently poison you..
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2009 - 11:40pm PT
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How many times does a group need to tell you they want you dead before you take it seriously?
Am i just paranoid? Thy seem to be executing their task pretty well. I guess we should just sit around and see how bad it gets. Then we'll see who's right.
Love how the press can't admit this guy is a terrorist.
Thank you, I feared I was alone in that observation....
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Porkchop_express
Trad climber
Currently in San Diego
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Well the media is always going to frame the news in a manageable structure and domestic terrorism is something that could really wig people out if they thought it was relatively common.
Not all terrorists are muslim, not all muslims are terrorists. Obviously. But to deny that the virulent sect of Islam that wants to destroy the US is active here is foolhardy. This psychiatrist fellow may not have been connected to any sleeper cells or to overseas terror groups, but if his agenda aligns largely with theirs, it is terrorism.
It should be alarming and isn't something that ought to be overlooked as a lone crazy going bonkers.
What to do about it...that is the real question.
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WandaFuca
Social climber
From the gettin place
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If something doesn't fit your wacked-out narratives, it is truly bizarre to witness how some of you struggle (or don't struggle at all; just assume) to explain how everything fits into your distorted worldviews, while you wait for Limbaugh and Beck to explain it all, so you can mouth that tomorrow.
This guy is not a terrorist you fuktards.
He is a desperate mass-murderer.
He was opposed to the war in Iraq. He didn't want to be deployed to Iraq. He was isolated and somewhat disturbed. He killed coworkers randomly and maybe some that he felt had slighted him or his religion.
What evidence does anyone have that he was trying to use terror to coerce some kind of political agenda?
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apogee
climber
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"Am i just paranoid?"
Yes.
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Porkchop_express
Trad climber
Currently in San Diego
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just because you're paranoid/don't mean they're not after you
K Cobain
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Or in Klimmer's case - 'just because you're paranoid don't mean EVERYONE AND THEIR ALIEN DOG ain't after ya'
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Delhi Dog
Trad climber
Good Question...
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Fan the flames and sit back so you can say, "I told you fire burns"
What positive thing have you done to help negate this so called Terrorism?
It ain't simply about "them", it's about all of us.
Look within to understand what is around you.
My 2 pennies.
Cheers,
DD
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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What is sad here, is the attempt to try this guy, before much of anything is known. nobody knows his motives. There is nothing to suggest he was anti-american. There is nothing to suggest he was crazy-Islamist.
The fact that he happens to be muslim, OBVIOUSLY means that he did it because he was muslim, eh? Maybe not.
What was Timothy McVeigh? What was Reagan's assassin? Ford's?
In the case of McVeigh, McVeigh's only known political affiliations were his voter registration with the Republican Party.
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skychild
Trad climber
Birmingham, Alabama
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Did the bad muslims threaten you directly? I doubt that your a target... your not important enough. So go climbing, close your ears and you'll be fine. Your ten times more likely to be killed any other way than by terrorism. So yes you are paranoid. Be the change you want to see in the world. Every population of people has engaged in some form of terrorism even the great U.S. of A. So don't point your finger and judge lest you be finger and judged yourself. Don
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2009 - 10:30am PT
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He was opposed to the war in Iraq. He didn't want to be deployed to Iraq.
Yeah, and he didn't want to fight fellow muslims, so what did he do??? Shoot up 40 non-muslims after yelling "Allah akbar".....
Why not just go AWOL?
I suppose too that he'll be shocked when he wakes up that instead of 72 virgins, he'll be greeted by 72 FBI agents. Book him, Danno.
EDIT:
Be the change you want to see in the world. Every population of people has engaged in some form of terrorism even the great U.S. of A. So don't point your finger and judge lest you be finger and judged yourself.
Look, dude, I may come off as an as#@&%e, but I'm a very friendly person. I am very courteous to others until they prove to be unworthy of my respect. Further, to ignore that there are people who would love to see you dead and openly say that, is naive and potentially suicidal.
No, I personally am probably pretty safe. But that doesn't mean I can't recognize a trend occurring in the world and put some more light on it.
more details;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1225627/Fort-Hood-shootings-Army-major-Nidal-Malik-Hasan-kills-12-injures-31-shootout-troops-army-base.html
The hero who took him down. She was hit once in the leg before dropping the rat.
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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mr. bluering,
please report
to your local
recruiter.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2009 - 11:45am PT
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mr. bluering,
please report
to your local
recruiter.
the thought has crossed my mind.
Fatty, head-in-sanders deleted the other thread....
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Let's not forget, Mark Clark and Fred Hampton. Both murdered by terrorists.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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"Why do they hate us?" W asked rhetorically. Then without answering, he bombed the sh#t out of them. (except for the Saudi princes whom he kisses and goes to extra-ordinary lengths to protect; protects even from questioning by US investigators after 9/11)
Maybe we should actually think for a minute about this question.
One possible explanation - given here by Laurence Vance - is they want us to just go home. http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance8.html
"The Roman Empire controlled the Celtic regions of Northern Europe and all of the Hellenized states that bordered the Mediterranean. The Mongol Empire, which was the largest contiguous empire in history, stretched from Southeast Asia to Europe. The Byzantine Empire spanned the years 395 to 1453. In the sixteenth century, the Ottoman Empire stretched from the Persian Gulf in the east to Hungary in the northwest; and from Egypt in the south to the Caucasus in the north. At the height of its dominion, the British Empire included almost a quarter of the world’s population.
Nothing, however, compares to the U.S. global empire. What makes U.S. hegemony unique is that it consists, not of control over great land masses or population centers, but of a global presence unlike that of any other country in history. . . ."
Vance goes on to explain that US military troops are present in 135 different countries out of a total of 195 countries in the world. Call a spade a spade. We are building a resource empire and the surfs aren't happy.
Oh yea, and here's another look with a similar point of view;
"The Worldwide control of humanity's economic, social and political activities is under the helm of US corporate and military power. Underlying this process are various schemes of direct and indirect military intervention. These US sponsored strategies ultimately consist in a process of global subordination.
Where is the Threat?
"The 2000 Global Report published in 1980 had outlined "the State of the World" by focusing on so-called "level of threats" which might negatively influence or undermine US interests.
"Twenty years later, US strategists, in an attempt to justify their military interventions in different parts of the World, have conceptualized the greatest fraud in US history, namely "the Global War on Terrorism" (GWOT). The latter, using a fabricated pretext constitutes a global war against all those who oppose US hegemony. A modern form of slavery, instrumented through militarization and the "free market" has unfolded.
"Major elements of the conquest and world domination strategy by the US refer to:
1) the control of the world economy and its financial markets,
2) the taking over of all natural resources (primary resources and nonrenewable sources of energy). The latter constitute the cornerstone of US power through the activities of its multinational corporations.
Geopolitical Outreach: Network of Military Bases
"The US has established its control over 191 governments which are members of the United Nations. The conquest, occupation and/or otherwise supervision of these various regions of the World is supported by an integrated network of military bases and installations which covers the entire Planet (Continents, Oceans and Outer Space). All this pertains to the workings of an extensive Empire, the exact dimensions of which are not always easy to ascertain. . . . ."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5564
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dirtbag
climber
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I've got a great idea!
Let's have other folks' kids go fight a war in an oil-rich country that had nothing to do with this attack.
Who's with me?!?!?
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pc
climber
East of Seattle
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Blue, For someone who is an alleged Christian/Catholic, you sure seem to have missed a few of the readings. What would Jesus do if faced with the type of confrontation in the world today? Based on what I've read, he'd try to talk, help, feed, shelter, and if that failed, turn the other cheek. Where does all this hatred and paranoia come from? It's not from Him.
Should you sign up to go over and "fight"? Not in my opinion. I'd recommend going down to the closest mosque in Silicon Valley and asking if you could attend some of their services and talk with the people there. So you can learn more about them and they can learn more about you.
That's the only way long term.
Good luck,
pc
BTW I'm an athiest with a brother who's a Catholic priest. He says the same as I do.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Redlands
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"the thought has crossed my mind."
And just like every other tough-talking armchair warrior, that's as far as the thought ever got. Just like your buddies Dick and Rush, so tough they had to get deferments for ass cysts and cowardice. (Much easier to just run your gob, than actually DO anything.)
From someone who actually has served our country in our military, "the thought crossing your mind" doesn't impress me.
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