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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Oct 28, 2009 - 12:17pm PT
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I heard a good one on NPR the other day. They were talking about how people ignore the science behind global warming, evolution, etc., but when they get sick they have no problem accepting medical science to fix them.
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 28, 2009 - 12:19pm PT
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Norwegian!
I agree with you.
"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgement you judge you will be judged; and the measure you use, it will. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's and do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye' and look a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite!..." Matthew 7:1-5.
These are the word's of Jesus!
The point of this verse is that a Christian should not have a spirit of carping criticism and fault-finding.
You are correct. This is prevalent in the church today.
They are missing the whole point.
God was willing to come down to earth, and be humiliated beaten and crucified for the world. "God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son...".
And now these so called 'Christian's are spewing hate'.
They are the Hypocrites of the the first verse above.
He is love.
Somehow much (not all) has missed the message.
They will be judged for it.
But do not let that turn you from Him.
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 28, 2009 - 12:29pm PT
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Jaybro- "and you get to Decide who 'He' is"!
Please explain??
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 28, 2009 - 12:31pm PT
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Jaybro!
'He" is Jesus!
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Oct 28, 2009 - 12:47pm PT
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he is probably a she. if it indeed is a specific entity.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 28, 2009 - 12:51pm PT
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Dr F, I am totally down with that! I don't think that's what lower case 'he', is talking about though, sigh....
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 28, 2009 - 12:58pm PT
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Jaybro!
Cool Vids.
Definitely open to interpretation.
I've always liked the J. Cash version from a few years back. He also does a cover of that "Nine Inch Nails" song, forget the title, think it might have been written by Curt Cobain.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 28, 2009 - 01:05pm PT
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trip over 7, I really, really like the Johhny Cash version! We're gonna miss him even more...
Youtube credits it to Deche Mode. I don't pretend to know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luup3qublm0
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 28, 2009 - 01:33pm PT
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Jaybro!
Thanks for posting that, 'Hurt'.
Yea! That's the one.
I love that song.
I can identify with every lyric!
Just listened to it three times.
It's so personnel.
Think I'll be listening to Johnny all day.
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 28, 2009 - 01:37pm PT
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Jaybro!
Trent Reznor wrote the lyrics (NIN).
Powerful!
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 28, 2009 - 02:18pm PT
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RW!
The lyrics in 'The Wretched", "Terrible", and "Heresy".
Are in total contrast, or in total opposition to "Hurt".
In "Hurt", he admits that he is the one who let everybody down.
It is called a "broken and contrite" heart.
King David of Israel had "broken a contrite heart".
God called him (David) "A man after My own Heart".
It's a song ('Hurt') about reflection.
A confession of sort's.
The other three song's he puts the blame on God.
So typical of a disbelieving world.
But I certainly can understand. When I was young I was heading fast and hard in that direction.
Man created his own problems. Admit it.
He's willing to take the guilt.
No angst or guilt here.
But mankind is to 'proud' or self-righteous.
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Oct 28, 2009 - 02:34pm PT
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Russ!
Interesting lyrics though!
Kind of a look inside his head, so to speak.
Dudes definitely got some issues.
Hopefully Johnny helped straighten him out.
I know they collaborated on the Cash version of 'Hurt'.
Peace.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 28, 2009 - 05:57pm PT
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Guess we have, gone past Ardi, call it evolution in fractal...
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2009 - 06:02pm PT
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From the very first post: Getting back to ARDI
"Ardi" is the nickname given to a shattered skeleton that an international team of scientists painstakingly excavated from the Ethiopian desert, analyzed over the course of 15 years, and declared Thursday to be a major breakthrough in the study of human origins. Ardi lived more than a million years before "Lucy," a much-celebrated, 3.2 million-year-old fossil of an early human progenitor found just 45 miles away.
If the scientists are correct, Ardi and her kind were the ancestors of our ancestors. She was a transitional figure, almost a hybrid -- a tree creature who could carry food in her arms as she explored the woodland floor on two legs.
The skeletal remnants of Ardi were recovered along with bones from at least 35 other members of a species that the scientists call Ardipithecus ramidus. Their arduous investigation had incited grumbling in a scientific community that had grown impatient to find out what exactly had been found in the silty clay of Ethiopia. The answers are dramatic, detailed in 11 papers published Thursday in the online edition of the journal Science and discussed in dual press conferences in Washington and Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.
The discovery of Ardi "further confirms that Ethiopia is the cradle of humankind," said Yohannes Haile-Selassie, the paleontologist who found the first two bones of Ardi in 1994.
Human origins is a field with high stakes and small bones, and the elaborate roll-out of the new research probably will trigger debate about the message contained in fossils so fragile they had to be excavated with dental picks and porcupine quills.
"It was a sort of a time capsule from 4.4. million years ago with contents that nobody had ever seen before," said Tim White, a University of California at Berkeley paleoanthropologist who led the Ardi research team. "We worked for years at opening that time capsule by collecting every shred of evidence that we could find."
The scientists who found Ardi do not contend that she necessarily evolved into Lucy. The human line of primates could have splintered, with some species turning into genetic dead ends. Lucy's line of primates could have diverged from Ardi's line long before Ardi lived. Even so, White said he believes that his team has documented an evolutionary sequence that shows, at the genus level, where people came from. Ardipithecus, then Australopithecus, then Homo.
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Oct 28, 2009 - 06:08pm PT
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Jah be praised.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 28, 2009 - 09:49pm PT
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yabo
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