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WBraun
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Sep 12, 2009 - 08:57pm PT
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What a crock Ricky
If Klimmer doesn't want to take the Swine Flu Vaccine so fuking what.
He didn't say anything about other vaccines.
If you don't want to take the vaccine then don't. If you want to inject it into yourself then do.
Man you people make everything so complicated ......
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 12, 2009 - 09:05pm PT
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Man you people make everything so complicated ......
Werner, with respect, I beg to differ. The folks who are saying that medical researchers working on vaccines are doing the best they can in a difficult situation are not making things complicated. They are acknowledging that the world is a very complicated place, and that the medical people are doing the best they can to keep their kids and mine and yours from dying horribly.
To me it seems that the conspiracy theorists and religious fanatics are the ones who are making things complicated -- dreaming up ever more complicated responses whenever they are confronted with relatively simple and straightforward facts that don't fit into their psychotic worldview.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2009 - 09:06pm PT
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Hey, if you read through the posts I haven't ever said all vaccines are evil or bad, just the opposite. I'm sure you and I are all alive as a result of them.
But something has now changed. Trust is breaking down. Why do we have DOD weapon labs that specialize is bioweapons? Why do we develope weapon grade Anthrax? Do you all think this is ok? Do you think maybe, just maybe these weaponized diseases just might ever get out and be used? OOOOppppppssss! Our bad. Sorry about that. We have a long history of experimenting on our own. Yes, we do this. We weaponize disease!
Ok, I know I'm gonna lose many of you here if you haven't been lost already but here goes . . .
I think it is more sinister than that. Lucifer is the Prince of this World and he pulls the strings of government and power. Reread the New Testament and Jesus's temptation in the Wilderness if you don't know that. You think maybe Lucifer the Fallen Angel he has something to do with disease? He sure does. Directly infact.
Bible Code on the Swine Flu:
http://www.biblecodedigest.com/page.php/638
On Youtube:
SWINE FLU IN BIBLE CODES glazerson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCdsrs0c6_Y
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Doug Buchanan
Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
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Sep 12, 2009 - 09:10pm PT
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Tooth my friend....
Of course I can tell you to do it my way and ask real questions of everything.
Would you not object if I or somebody like me easily got a government job with the power to tell you do do it my way, OR GO TO JAIL?
Knowledge is advanced by what we learn from a DIVERSITY of human endeavors, and is retarded by idiots who sink to government jobs forcing diverse humans to do it only the government way.
Let me see, ah, according to the government way, if we kill enough of those communists, ah, I mean, terrorists, we can solve the problem of people killing people.
And with that power, we can use the old Spanish flu example to FORCE the people to all do one thing, because Saddam has weapons of mass destruction, you know.
And therefore appreciate the diversity of information sources, and the freedom to make your own decisions, because you are more capable for those decisions, than government dolts corrupted by power, or pharma execs corrupted by money.
Just make sure you retain that freedom, or with my credentials, I could easily get a government job, and that power would do to my mind what power does to every mind.
Chose your vaccines carefully. They all come with disadvantages, as with every advantage.
DougBuchanan.com
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 12, 2009 - 09:14pm PT
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Ghost
The conspiracy theorists and religious fanatics are not going away anytime soon. Actually they will increase over time.
But neither are all the psycho politicians and so called do good-ers that want to save you from yourself that have no clue how to save their own selves first.
Get ready for a nut house or take care of our own selves first correctly.
The whole world is a huge fuking mess/chaos ....
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Doug Buchanan
Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
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Sep 12, 2009 - 09:24pm PT
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And yes, things are different. All power ADVANCES to its inherent collapse, by design of power. We are obviously in a Police State that is the ideal of what the Nazi Party attempted.
Mental midget government dolts are spying on everyone.
The President formally excludes himself and his cronies from the laws, with "signing statements" and claims of war powers.
Police searches of common travelers even commonly include back room strip searches and hours of interrogation.
The US is now openly known for torturing helpless PRISONERS.
The military industrial complex, awash in war money, with vast arrays of cool new weapons it wants to sell / test, controls the government, now with TWO wars, and two more (Pakistan, Iran) scheduled.
It costs $200 - $500 for climbers to exercise what was previously their RIGHT to walk on public land described as Denali. That money goes for more war toys and POLICE called "park rangers".
Etceteras.
All of that resulted from people asking too few questions of government, and criticizing anyone who dares to ask such questions, identical to every Police State society.
Enjoy the show.
DougBuchanan.com
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Sep 12, 2009 - 09:28pm PT
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http://projecteuclid.org/DPubS?service=UI&version=1.0&verb=Display&handle=euclid.ss/1009212243
Solving the Bible Code Puzzle
Brendan McKay, Dror Bar-Natan, Maya Bar-Hillel, and Gil Kalai
Source: Statist. Sci. Volume 14, Number 2 (1999), 150-173.
Abstract
A paper of Witztum, Rips and Rosenberg in this journal in 1994 made the extraordinary claim that the Hebrew text of the Book of Genesis encodes events which did not occur until millennia after the text was written. In reply, we argue that Witztum, Rips and Rosenberg’s case is fatally defective, indeed that their result merely reflects on the choices made in designing their experiment and collecting the data for it. We present extensive evidence in support of that conclusion. We also report on many new experiments of our own, all of which failed to detect the alleged phenomenon.
Keywords: Equidistant letter sequences; ELS; Bible code; Torah code; data tuning; data selection
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2009 - 09:53pm PT
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Ed,
I can read it with my own eyes and understand it. It is way, way beyond statistical chance, and now they are not just finding associated words in Bible Code, they are finding full sentences. It is real, and it often matches up with the common language text where it is found. No other book does this like the Bible. Yea, you can find words here and there in other books, but not prophetical and deep in meaning covering many timely topics as found in the Bible. There is only one Bible.
On judgement day all scientists can hold up that study you just posted and say to God, "Bible Code isn't real, it is fake, made up and nonsense. See we can prove it."
He'll just laugh and say something to the effect -- MY WAYS ARE NOT YOUR WAYS. I UNSEALED IT IN THE TIME IT WAS MEANT TO BE UNSEALED. IT IS A SHAME YOU ALL DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT. BUT MANY TRIED TO TELL YOU.
1Cor.3:19 (KJV)
"[19] For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness."
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Sep 12, 2009 - 09:56pm PT
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The non vaccine takers will be interrogated before my DEATH PANEL.
Bring a spray bottle with a mild bleach solution and some foil if you want to live.
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BrianH
Trad climber
santa fe
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Sep 12, 2009 - 09:58pm PT
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The Swine Flu:
Make a regular bloody mary, garnish with bacon.
You heard it here first.
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elcap-pics
climber
Crestline CA
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Sep 12, 2009 - 10:28pm PT
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Religious rants and ancient texts are not evidence of anything based in reality.
BTW I was a teacher for 30 years and almost never get sick as I have been exposed to almost everything in the general population and have developed some immunity I suppose. So I never got a flu shot and probably never will... but not because of the vast scientific conspiracy you people are deluded about.
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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Sep 12, 2009 - 10:30pm PT
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BrianH , I'll take one of those..lol
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Sep 12, 2009 - 10:36pm PT
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SWINE FLU IN BIBLE CODES
Oh my god this is the best thread ever. Klimmer: never ever ever stop posting.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 12, 2009 - 11:39pm PT
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We are all DOOMED!
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rockermike
Mountain climber
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Sep 13, 2009 - 01:07am PT
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What the f*#k is that? /ha
If its not real I'm sure that if we give them another 10 years it will be.
Another thing I'd like to point out; many of the same people on this tread that jeer at the NWO conspiracy are the same people that jeer when people call for a 9/11 investigation.
But the utter refusal of the elites in this country to even seriously ask what happened on 9/11 (dems and repubs alike) has completely undermined the trust in ALL authorities amongst the population. And that trust is the glue that holds civilization together. Without it all cohesiveness in our country is destroyed (has been destroyed). Now people have to go to the internet to find the truth, because the ruling elite have proved their unwillingness to speak truth. What ever you think happened on 9/11, the clear and public examination of it, in itself, is essential. And the public cover-up that went by the name of 9/11 commission only served to spread the virus of cynicism.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 13, 2009 - 01:13am PT
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Yep
Best said yet Rocker .....
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Sep 13, 2009 - 01:22am PT
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Bring a spray bottle with a mild bleach solution and some foil if you want to live.
Or a two-four of OE.
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Gobee
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Sep 13, 2009 - 01:33am PT
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"Th- Th-Th-Th-Th-... That's all, folks."
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mason805
Trad climber
East Bay, CA
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Sep 13, 2009 - 01:34am PT
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Right on RockerMike.
I've watched Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist Addendum. I'm not skurred to admit it.
I'm a fan!
Yes, the government is our friend and they care about us. They want to take care of each and every single one of us.
The Pharma megacorporations really only make drugs to save our lives!!! They are NOT really trying to profit from it. They want to cure cancer, AIDS, and every single other life threatening disease out there so there will be NO NEED for drug development!
There is really a serious shortage of all things in this world. That is why corporations will always make money. Because scarcity is forever! Contrived scarcity, that is ;) Corporations and bankers want nothing more than to serve the people and NOT themselves!
Nothing you can't learn in Managerial Economics and Game Theory.
Yes, they are all here to help the little people. Because we are all created equal, but some more equal than others.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 13, 2009 - 01:36am PT
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Rocker,
I agree. Things really changed on 9-11-01.
There is No trust now from the general public world citizens, because they (the NWO elite) refuse to investigate even though there are glaring lies, cover-up, and so many outstanding questions that remain unanswered.
Many are coming to this reality and it is painful. But it has to be done. Focus the anger toward pushing the truth and openeing eyes. Maybe one day we will see justice. No doubt we will on the Day of Judgement.
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