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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jun 23, 2009 - 09:25pm PT
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Are you like the Lenny Bruce of the Idaho Militia or what?
Social commentary with just a tantalizing hint of violence - it's "Rokjox Live at the Potato Palace" !
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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for more on RJ's California Obsession:
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Step Beyond!
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 1, 2009 - 07:47pm PT
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Thanks for the link, ec.
That has to be a nail in the coffin for Arnie's "savings plan"
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hooblie
climber
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moof and chaz referenced the sinkyone sp. here's a pic, my first stab at it, so testing:
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I wonder what agency vs agency conflicts may spring up between California State Parks and the California Coastal Commission if certain state parks are closed - especially if the closings prevent coastal access (something the Coastal Commission is very big on).
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Doug Buchanan
Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
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Finally, a thread on public land use where most of the posters express accurate concepts, but peripheral.
The controlling concepts for this issue and all public lands (as Rokjox and pud indicate).....
The government does not have enough Sheriff of Nottingham's to keep the ARMED common people off THEIR PUBLIC LAND, and stop them from TRAVELING BY COMMON MEANS ON THE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY.
Do not worry about road maintenance. After the government dolts waste the last tax dollar the public is willing to give them, the people will adequately, individually maintain the roads to travel carefully.
The common law, the most brilliant social invention of humans, resolves all social problems, which is why lawyers, judges, cops, Park Service dolts and their American Alpine Club mouthpieces must hide, deny and lie about the common law.
The US is a common law nation. The common law is the prevailing law of the land IF YOU LEARN IT ENOUGH to defend against the lawyer/judges, a relatively easy task.
So buy a gun and a bolt cutter, tell the government and your friends that you have done so, and that you intend to obey and protect the common law (therein the US Constitution) that protects the people from the government Sheriff's of Nottingham.
Let the weasely little American Alpine Club chaps slither away in fear of the illusions they were taught by intractably lying Park Service dolts.
Good people died horrible, horrible deaths in wars to create the US under the common law (including the US Constitution) that protects the people from the government. It is becoming wise to not be among the Park Service dolts and their AmerAC minions who demonstrate contempt for those who so sacrificed.
Check out OATHKEEPERS.ORG to get an indication of who is finally recognizing the flaw of the American Alpine Club's beloved Police State.
Doug
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berghold
Trad climber
Calistoga
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Jul 10, 2009 - 12:16am PT
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The Santa Rosa Rock Ice and Mountain Club, along with the Access Fund, organized an Adopt-A-Crag trash clean-up at Mount St. Helena last week. A State Park Ranger attended the event, volunteering his time and the use of one of their dump trucks. We worked as a team to clean up a ton of trash and perform some much needed trail maintenance. In his opinion, based on the layout of the park and the lack of services, facilities, etc. there would be no changes regarding access to any of the Mount St. Helena or Palisades climbing areas. Maintaining a positive working relationship with these land managers is the key to preserving climbing access regardless of the threat of closures.
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Jul 10, 2009 - 12:19am PT
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Where are all the baptisms are going to be? Every weekend in Malibu State Park you will see someone getting baptized in the river drainage. I wonder what will be their chosen alternative?
AF
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Doug Buchanan
Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
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Jul 10, 2009 - 04:19am PT
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Berghold says it all for the mindless surrender of human rights, by ignorant humans who are worthless to the species.....
"Maintaining a positive working relationship with these land managers is the key to preserving climbing access regardless of the threat of closures."
That is precisely what Hitler's Brown Shirts said about the German citizen relationship to the Gestapo.
A right, such as the right of the public to walk on their own public land, and travel by common means on the public rights of way, is an action for which the government holds no authority to require permission (permit, license), charge a tax or fee, OR DEMAND THE "POSITIVE WORKING RELATIONSHIP" that Hitler demanded of the Jews and Gypsies.
"Posterity! You will never know how much it cost the present generation, to preserve your freedom! I hope you make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it." John Adams, signer of the Constitution.
Hey John, up there in Heaven, bad news. You wasted your time.
Twenty-year old park rangers are clueless of how it happens, but they laugh themselves to tears as how thoroughly they have subjected the environmentalist grovelers who genuinely believe that the public's parks are OWNED by the mental midget government dolts who stumbled into easy mindless Park jobs.
The Americans are yet mired in the intellectual dark ages. They yet do not know what human rights are.
DougBuchanan.com
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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Jul 10, 2009 - 06:30am PT
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NPS will take them all!
well at least six of em!
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apogee
climber
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Aug 13, 2009 - 12:17pm PT
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Open up your wallets a little (lot) further if you want to visit our state parks:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-greenspace13-2009aug13,0,3805729.story
A bunch more are still slated to be closed after Labor Day, though they have not announced which ones.
I still think the threats of mass closures was a political bluff. As compared to mass closures, increased user fees are made to look much more acceptable. Don't get your hopes up that those fees will go back to pre-crisis levels once (if) things stabilize. Effin' Cali politics.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 13, 2009 - 12:50pm PT
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It will cost more to get into Perris Lake SP (home of Big Rock) than it will to get into Joshua Tree.
That tells you everything you need to know about the extent of mis-management in California government.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Sep 25, 2009 - 06:21pm PT
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I knew it.
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GDavis
Trad climber
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Sep 25, 2009 - 06:49pm PT
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Hmmmm higher taxes than almost any state and we have to give police furlow days? Looks like the crooks in sacramento don't want to play ball.
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