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Jingy

Social climber
Flatland, Ca
Jul 13, 2008 - 01:40am PT
Um...F-ing thieves? Final answer!

Possibly the worst element of society!


Post Full Read Edit: Sorry didn't see the other questions that I had some thoughts on.

What kind of people steal money from co-workers? - Already answered.

Obviously, it is someone I work with. - Time to figure out WHO! and out them in public!

What I want to know is what motivates people to steal from co-workers. - They are not stealing from co-workers.. They are just stealing. Maybe a sickness, maybe strange habit, maybe need, greed, or a want. Those of us who do not commit that act may never know.

How do people justify doing something like this? - I don't think they justify anything. They don't have the mind to consider anyone but themselves.

Who ever did it had to do some digging around in the tote bag to find it because the change purse with the money was buried within another zippered case wherein I keep odds and ends (Advil, extra pens, tissues, etc.) - Invest in one of those exploding money ink packs like the banks use. You'll know immediately!

Does anyone have any insight into this sort of thing. I am very disgusted. - Same here.

Hope this helps, or put you at ease.. You are not alone in your hatred of this kind of person.
WoodySt

Trad climber
Riverside
Jul 13, 2008 - 01:43am PT
Well Lois, they wanted to donate to Obama but found themselves short.
Doug Buchanan

Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
Jul 13, 2008 - 01:47am PT
Welcome again to the humans.

There are 6.67 Billion of them, and they have all the bases covered. Some of them vote for George Bush. Some of them expropriate money from colleagues. They are an odd species.

Several years back when I saw a flurry of news magazine articles about the increasing number of children who steal money from their parents, I was as amused as you are with your colleagues.

If there are any lawyers or Park Service rangers working in ER, that explains it. Otherwise, put some flour between each of a few bills and leave your tote bag in the same place. Flour used to be flour. Now it is a white powder. That and what people do these days can cause much mental grief for awhile, much to your amusement.

Doug
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Jul 13, 2008 - 01:49am PT
I'm not saying this is the case, but it seems about 50% of the time, in circumstances like this, folks spent the money themselves or moved something around, and then forgot it.

If somebody took your cash, that's obviously bogus and likely the work of somebody made desperate by some substance problem.

Hope it works out and hope you enjoy that new job

Peace

Karl
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Jul 13, 2008 - 02:06am PT
Lois, set up a sting.
Plant some cash covered with invisible ink, the kind you can only see under a black light.
Like this....
http://0-0-0checkmate.com/Home_Business_Professional_Protection/Property_Protection.html

You will catch the scumbag.
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Jul 13, 2008 - 02:14am PT
Says who Lois?

They wouldn't even see you do it.
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 13, 2008 - 02:15am PT
Lois.... put a IR noise device into your purse. You know... when they open the purse a 100db alarm goes off. Walk into the room, and stomp their guts out.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94983


or drop one of these into your purse:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=42768
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Jul 13, 2008 - 02:20am PT
Helpful tips on apprehension (from a website)

When an individual or individuals are suspect don't immediately ask to see their hands and shine a UV Light on their hands. If you are wrong odds are your mutual trust if wrong will create a bad situation and bad feelings. Rather try a couple different covert methods.

1). If you are working with currency introduce a UV/Blacklight to the individual you suspect and use the introduction of the light as if you are teaching him what he needs to look for in counterfeit money. Try and use a darker then normal area and as you introduce the light to him/her you will clearly see the products above are on their hands. This is a less intrusive method.

2). Having something as simple as our spiral UV light bulb, you can have an area to bring the suspect in to show how cool the area is with a UV/Blacklight and you will immediately see their glowing hands. Or have a UV Flashlight you can aim toward their hands from behind them when they are not looking. Our mini predator UV Light works great, and economical with a great beam or other predator models. Over head shop light style lights are great too. Remember not to corner someone you suspect rather use the methods above. Once identification is made contact your local law enforcement agency and let them handle the rest. Confrontation is NOT recommended! We hope this information is useful and wish success in protecting your assets.



I DO like Russ's alarm idea too!
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jul 13, 2008 - 02:21am PT
Sorry for your loss, but at least it's relatively minor in material terms. The real loss is trust in your co-workers.

You should at least inform the management/whoever's responsible for the room. There's probably nothing much they can do but to post signs and bulletins, but that may at least deter future thefts. And a hospital should have a security department that may have ideas on preventing other thefts, or even catching the "perp" (thief) - bearing in mind that such thefts are often opportunistic. Perhaps inform security quietly first - they may want it kept quiet while they work on it.

Are there signs in the room warning about not keeping valuables there, or anything in your orientation or the employee manual about it? Most larger organizations assertively warn employees about keeping an eye on any personal property they bring to work.

Workplace theft is sadly too common, and like "shrinkage", half or more is due to fellow employees. Particularly in larger institutions.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jul 13, 2008 - 02:39am PT
Aw Lois, you are hung up on the drug thing. I am surprised that you would leave cash untended.

Do the math on what someone who works for 10.00 dollars an hour makes. That works out to a take home of 300 a week. Imagine paying 800 or 900 a month in rent, then see how much is left over. 20 or 30 dollars easy money starts looking like a lot.

How much do the housekeepers make? Do you know? How about the security guards?

I'm not trying to justify anything. Stealing is wrong. I'm just trying to help you see some peoples motivation beyond drug addictions.

It could be anyone. There are kleptomaniacs, people with gambling problems, and just people with little or no morals. Like Mighty hiker said, the bigger loss was your trust in your fellow employees. That always sucks. Just remember that it is probably only one person. Most people are reasonably trustworthy.

Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 13, 2008 - 02:42am PT
Put your sandwich and 8 bucks in this thing....

http://www.gizmag.com/go/5691/
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jul 13, 2008 - 02:53am PT
Yes Lois, they usually are honest and decent. I use to manage them and was one. LIke I said, it only takes one. All I was trying to point out to you was that low wages make stealing tempting. Thats all. But even people who make good wages can be tempted.

Sometimes you sound like a 50s drug abuse infomercial. It just strikes me as funny sometimes how single minded you can be once you form an opinion.

I am sorry for your loss though. That sucks.
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 13, 2008 - 03:01am PT
You can bet it was someone who does "WEED"
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Jul 13, 2008 - 03:12am PT
That bites, Lois, very disconcerting.

F-ing weedheads...
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Jul 13, 2008 - 04:07am PT
Reefer addicts, no doubt.
Doug Buchanan

Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
Jul 13, 2008 - 05:53am PT
Move to Alaska where pot is legal. Instant elimination of those weed addicts as suspects having to steal for their habit.

But, what with all the government-induced price increases on gunpowder, you might have to watch the greater number of ammo reloaders in the ER break lounge. They are the ones carrying two different calibers.

Private enterprise thieves are common, and despite being disgusting, they do not require you to fill out permit forms before they take your required permit fee money like the many more repugnant government thieves.

The topic is only good for the comedy. Carry your cash and guns concealed.

Doug

HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Arid-zona
Jul 13, 2008 - 05:59am PT
All the more reason that you should be able to carry firearms in the hospital!
Scared Silly

Trad climber
UT
Jul 13, 2008 - 10:38am PT
LEB, report it to your super and the hospital security. Tell the super who told you to hide your stuff and their boss that their solution is unacceptable. Get a little travel wallet like this:

http://www.eaglecreek.com/accessories/wallets/UnderCover-Silk-Moneybelt-40118

and be done with it. Alarms, dye, UV are not going to cut it and are just going to be more hassle than it is worth. You might catch one scum bag but another will soon follow.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jul 13, 2008 - 10:59am PT
Petty thieves are often people that feel that life has cheated them, that they have little control over things; so often stealing is just a way of taking command, of feeling empowered.

Just a clue, good luck on catching the bastard. Set a trap.
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Jul 13, 2008 - 11:02am PT
LEB,

You might want someone to start checking the "drug cage". If you have a drugee there, no doubt they will find a way to "drop" meds on the floor to fool the inventory. Might be an interesting way to catch your thief!
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