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klk
Trad climber
cali
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I'd recommend the Apogee ONE. Great converters for the price. Also very easy to use with Garageband and Logic.
tx. that's one of the ones i'd been looking at, but i don't actually know anyone who has one.
i'm going to try using reaper.
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Chappy5150
climber
Denver, CO
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Cool. Me too. Ever listen to the band “In Flames” and their 2000 album “Clayman”?
How about “Trivium”?
I'm a fan of In Flames, but not so much of Trivium. I think Trivium are great musicians, but I just can't get past the vocals.
i'm going to try using reaper.
I don't think the ONE works with reaper.
the lead player and self proclaimed band leader came up to us as we plugged in and told us to start with a CCR tune in a different key....No shyt...(a song that wasnt even on our fourty some length list mind you, which we were SUPPOSED to do in order.)
My response: "I only play in the key of rock, which happens to be in the same key we always play in..(starts song)"
It's beyond me why someone(especially a "leader") would do that just before you went on. There is a reason you practice and rehearse.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 24, 2017 - 07:06am PT
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So not where I was going with this but a worthy bump What does WH keep looking at at his feet?
[Click to View YouTube Video]
All through the video, Warren H, has his head down, turning to look at his rig?
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Mar 24, 2017 - 08:29am PT
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I've never been much into pedals, I play a strat with a Mesa Express amp. I used to have a wah pedal for Voodoo Chile, but got separated from it somewhere along the way. I recently bought a doohickey that lets me plug my guitar into Garage Band and Amplitude on an ipad. That is pretty cool, and has the virtue of letting you record, loop, use drum machine, etc., with minimal fussing around and maximum guitar playing.
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Matt Sarad
climber
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Mar 24, 2017 - 04:40pm PT
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I use the following:
Boss Fender Reverb, Zendrive, Boss DD7 Delay, Electro Harmonix Small Stone phaser and Mini qtron.
These are run through a 1958 Tweed Deluxe using a Strat, SG with Throback pickups, Melody Maker with pafs, 1958 LP Jr., Lap Steel.
F*#ked up shoulder and head retired me from climbing.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Mar 24, 2017 - 05:16pm PT
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Edit: Everything at this link was me with a modeling unit of some type (Pod HD500 or old Line6 AX2 2x12), before I got my latest setup:
https://www.bandmix.com/6stringscott/
I've got the Fractal AxeFX II XL and MFC-101 foot controller and a pair of Atomic CLR full range flat response monitors. It is a wet dream for musical/electronic/gadget geeks, makes absolutely gorgeous tones at bedroom levels, but frankly it has been a bit challenging for me in a live band context with nobody but the vocals going to PA. The lead guitar player is a pure tube hard-liner, and is very critical of my tone. But in general, he is extremely opinionated and is often difficult to communicate with as a person, but I put up with it because he is a great guitar player and I can learn something from him. I think my tone challenge is caused by a few issues:
1) It is not easy to build from scratch a gorgeous sound with a modeler that cuts through the mix at gig/rehearsal levels, with other folks not cooperating to adjust their live tones to create room in the frequency spectrum for everyone else.
2) It takes a lot of trial and error to figure out what types of distortion or clean or edge of breakup tones will not get lost under the cymbals and other loud guitar player, and how to get enough meat in the tone without stepping on the bass player. A simple analog amp you have a few knobs: input, bass, mid, treble, maybe a master vol. There are tens/hundreds of things you can tweak in a modeler to emulate. For example, does it work better to use a -6dB or -12dB cutoff slope for low frequencies to emulate the guitar cabinet? Where should you set the cutoff frequency? 20Hz? 60Hz? 72Hz? 90Hz? 110Hz? 180Hz? Or anywhere in between or beyond? These are just the most trivial of knobs that are important to tweak in a modeler.
3) Fletcher-Munson effect causes the perception of sounds to change a lot as we make them louder. So if you tune a sound to be great at bedroom levels it can be sh!t at gig levels. People say that giving a mid-boost or trimming the highs and lows is the solution, but in my experience that is not enough because of the other tone shaping stuff and sitting in the mix with other instruments.
In short: if you are a geek and enjoy tweaking the sounds, have fun with the modeler. If you have the know-how and persistence, you will achieve tones as good or better than analog rigs and be consistent from show to show because of not relying on the vagaries of mic placement on your cabinet or where you set the knobs before. This all assumes you are playing venues big enough to mic a cab. Getting the "in the room" cab emulation is the hardest part unless you use a real cab rather than FRFR, but then you give up the flexibility to sound like any rig. I'm waiting on a XiTone open-backed cabinet that has a flat response up to 10kHz to see how this changes the equation for me.
If you just want to push the easy-button on the amp and play, and you play small venues where each musician controls their own volume direct with no mixing board, then you might be better off with a basic Fender or Marshall amp and a small pedalboard.
My continuing journey: just last week we ran me and the other guitarist through the mixing board, and I think this is going to unlock part of the puzzle that has been stumping me. I noticed that going through the PA, my tone in the mix sounds more similar to what it sounds like at home. I was doing unnatural things to my sound to get it to cut through the mix and be heard off-axis by the other musicians using my monitor as a backline, and it's too tricky to make intricate changes in the middle of rehearsal with other folks getting frustrated waiting. We'll see how it goes next week when I adapt my sound patches to this change of going through the mixing board.
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Mar 25, 2017 - 01:11pm PT
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Boss DD-500 Digital Delay Pedal $300.00 Sweetwater, Guitar Center has them as well. Digital Delay Pedal with 12 Delay Modes, Customizable Control Settings, Graphic Display, Patch Memories, Phrase Looper, Selectable Buffered or True-bypass, and 32-bit/96kHz Processing
Plugged in next to it is a Boss DD-3 Digital Delay Pedal [older model] which makes the 500 even crazier. Digital Delay Effects Pedal with 3 Time Settings, Hold Function, and Level, Delay Time, and Feedback Controls
Not shown but a compressor can be added as well. In fact, add 15 other voices [noise] if you wish. I find that using the or buying the power supply rather than using the batteries does make a big difference.
Most now is software downloaded onto your laptop, quit a few to pick from:
iZotope is just one. Their RX Plug-in Pack $49.00 sale ends March 28. Online with their web site.
Dialogue De-noise: Easily reduce the noise floor and remove broadband noise from home recordings like air conditioner, traffic sounds, and more
De-click: Clean up vocal tracks by removing unintended clicks and mouth noises
De-clip: Salvage perfect vocal takes and performances that are clipping or distorting
De-hum: Get rid of the electrical hum, line noise from ground loops, and buzzes that can end up on multitrack recordings
As for getting that Satisfaction effect need one of these: The original FZ-1
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Mar 25, 2017 - 04:38pm PT
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Hey Wade! Im playin alot of guitar these days too! We should meet at the leap this summer and jam. Effects pedals #1 important feature: when you are performing at a show, be it a bar or a wedding, that shyt better work. The interface must be user friendly and weildy. During a performance, the thing has to be easy to use so that the performer can focus on performance and not be distracted by fighting with their effects. At least thats my experience. The best effects I ever had were when someone else was mixing it in from the board so I didn't even have to think about it. But that requires a sound guy who knows your set. So make it easy to stomp on and jam. Example: Marshall ADA preamp with effects and a pedal. Old school, simple, easy to weild in performance setting!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2017 - 09:56pm PT
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ok good. years and beers and pedals later....this is still interesting to me.
what say y'all?
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Mar 26, 2017 - 01:26am PT
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Try getting a set of these you need both.
Cables balanced in polarity or unbalanced could be the problem.
Also an issue most all use batteries try using power supply might help.
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Mar 26, 2017 - 01:27am PT
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Try getting a set of these you need both.
Cables balanced in polarity or unbalanced could be the problem.
Also an issue most all use batteries try using power supply might help.
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c_vultaggio
Trad climber
new york
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Mar 27, 2017 - 01:57pm PT
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Anyone play with looping pedals?
Love the Boss Rc50, great for working out stuff in weird time sigs. An old vid with one of my fave guitars, archtop acoustic Takamine for those into that sorta thing:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Mar 28, 2017 - 06:10am PT
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zBrown, you should let your nephew know they're infected with a virus...
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c_vultaggio
Trad climber
new york
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Mar 28, 2017 - 07:13pm PT
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Thanks dude - much obliged.
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