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Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 29, 2016 - 09:53am PT
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When competent and godly leaders rule, they set a tone for the society as they conduct affairs according to God's standards. The result will not be utopia but rather a general happiness, prosperity and stability in the land.
So sayeth the leaders of ISIS.....
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:00am PT
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His official White House website touts efforts to stop counseling young people struggling with same-sex attraction and transgenderism as "protecting America's youth."
For this I mourn."
You're not alone Klimmer. "Conversion Therapy" is where it's at, right?
Feeling a bit queer? Let G-d help you!
Here's a news story from the front lines...
http://www.theonion.com/article/church-group-offers-homosexual-new-life-in-closet-470
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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:01am PT
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Q? Or maybe I don't want to know.
Queer.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:15am PT
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pyro lied
I do know for a fact that Obama wants our military lean.. for whatever it's worth it sure made us look stupid..
liar, prove it
prove that PRESIDENT Obama did not sign into law every INCREASE in Pentagon spending that congress passed, continually growing every year he has been in office
FACT: it was your REPUBLICANS who CUT by 400 million dollars the security money used to protect our embassies
here you go \
-http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/19/1147325/-House-GOP-Paul-Ryan-Cut-400M-from-Embassy-Safety-Funding
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:21am PT
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On to more substantive reasons to fear a Trump presidency: His seven-point program that will allegedly return U.S. jobs really is a two point disaster:
1. Start a currency war with China; and
2. Start a trade war with the world.
I can think of no more effective prescription to start a depression. His proposals show me that he, and possibly those who advise him, have no clue about what's wrong with the current U.S. economy. Despite the protectionist and economic reactionaries' (who often call themselves "progressive) claims, the empirical evidence shows that jobs and real wages increased, not decreased, after NAFTA. International trade does adversely affect certain industries, of course, but its overall effect on the U.S. economy, and on U.S. jobs in particular, is positive.
https://www.usitc.gov/publications/332/ec201406a.pdf
Moreover, employment and wage growth post-NAFTA have been higher in the U.S. than in Mexico. Ross Perot's "giant sucking sound" is merely a giant dud.
In addition, he fails to recognize the real damper on U.S. economic growth post-2006, namely the vastly increased cost of regulations and legislation (Dood-Frank and ACA, for example) since 2007. Just lowering taxes, without more, won't stimulate this economy any more than raising spending, without more, will do so. He simply fails to understand what's going on - or else he cannot understand what advisors who do know are telling him. Either way, his election would signal an economic bloodbath.
To me, the best historical analogy from U.S. history is the Cleveland - Blaine election. Even Thomas Nast, a normally steadfast Republican, found Blaine too heavy a load to carry. Trump's persona, his unethical business practices, his jingoism and racism, and, now, his economic proposals pile on way more than this camel's back can carry.
John
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:30am PT
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pasely
"paisley", Mr. Teacher
Susan
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:30am PT
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Thank you, John, for adding substance.
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:39am PT
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LGBT... always thought there was a clue in that acronym...Ligbut
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:50am PT
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Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump across the board in a new poll of battleground states.
According to Ballotpedia's battleground poll, Clinton leads Trump:
51% to 37% in Florida
45% to 41% in Iowa
50% to 33% in Michigan
48% to 38% in North Carolina
46% to 37% in Ohio
49% to 35% in Pennsylvania
45% to 38% in Virginia
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:51am PT
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Klimmer quoting Vallely is humorous, not quite ark on da moon crazy, but a contender
In 2010, Vallely was one of three retired general officers who expressed support for US Army Lieutenant Colonel Terrance Lee Lakin in his refusal to deploy to Afghanistan based on Lakin's claim that President Barack Obama had no legitimacy as commander in chief. In an interview, Vallely stated "I think many in the military – and many out of the military – question the natural-birth status of Barack Obama."[13] Following Vallely's announcement, Army Major General (retired) Jerry Curry and Air Force Lieutenant General (retired) Thomas G. McInerney also expressed public support for Lakin.[13][14] When Lakin refused the orders to deploy, the military initiated a court-martial under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. On September 2, 2010, the presiding judge of the court-martial ruled that Obama's status as a natural-born citizen is irrelevant in the court-martial case against Lakin, as Obama's eligibility is outside the jurisdiction of the military and falls within the jurisdiction of the United States Congress instead.[15] Lakin was convicted on a charge of missing movement,[16] sentenced to six months confinement and dismissed from the Army.[17]
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:55am PT
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I think Trump has absolutely zero intention of actually taking the actions he is spouting(renegotiate trade deals, "bring back" manufacturing jobs). He just knows that those talking points rile up a certain subset of people, and those empty promises give them some hope. In response, they will cast their vote in his direction. I am sure he promised "great things" to all the contractors he has shafted over the years - why would anything be different?
What doesn't get said, about eh "bring back jobs" campaign, is the reality - any manufacturing jobs created would be a near minimum wage level, and even STILL the products could not compete against similar imported goods.
When asked why people shop at Walmart, instead of buying from smaller independent stores, the answer is almost always "Because it costs less at Walmart." These people crying for DT to "bwing back deir jawbs" wouldn't even support the hardware stores in their own town when the Great Importer opened for business.
Who do they think is going to BUY goods that cost twice as much as ones that can be imported?
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:55am PT
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President Obama's aggressive advocacy of the LGBTQ agenda has brought devastation to the traditional family.
aren't you the one who is divorced?
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:58am PT
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Klimmr you moron
your web site link is a known biased promoter of unsubstantiated "opinions"
you have been 100% defeated in your lies about Hillary Clinton yesterday
and now, desperate to be credible, you find some guy posting an opinion in his basement so that you now put forward the already debunked position that the President of United States as "weakened" our national security
another lie, we are spending more every year on defense of his administration
you know what it really is don't you klimmer, you are both a racist and woman hater
you voted republican in 2008 because in spite of being in the midst of the horrible Republican Recession you could never bring yourself to vote for a black man
same thing now, because you cannot defend your support of trump, you try real hard
to pass on lies you naively believe about Clinton when the truth is your bible tells you that women should be considered not equal and inferior to men
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 29, 2016 - 10:58am PT
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aren't you the one who is divorced?
The queers ruined his marriage. They picketed his house and the funerals of loved ones.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 29, 2016 - 11:01am PT
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Klimmer's divorce was Obama's fault, didn't you know that?
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Jun 29, 2016 - 11:10am PT
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This just in:
A Trump business (again) committed fraud, larceny and theft of intellectual property.
In addition to his widely vilified Trump University, there was a similar real estate seminar con-game called The Trump Institute.
It also falsely promised gullible buyers that they would receive Donald Trump's personal real estate secrets, and that his hand-picked "experts" would teach buyers how to earn large sums of money in the real estate business. None of that was true, and much of the Institute's so-called Trump wisdom was actually plagarized from a decade-old, obscure real estate manual.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/us/politics/donald-trump-institute-plagiarism.html
Trump should recruit Kevin Trudeau to be his Surgeon General.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 29, 2016 - 11:15am PT
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It's not surprising, Tom. He's been a charlatan all along.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jun 29, 2016 - 11:20am PT
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What doesn't get said, about eh "bring back jobs" campaign, is the reality - any manufacturing jobs created would be a near minimum wage level, and even STILL the products could not compete against similar imported goods.
I would modify that. We do still have some good manufacturing jobs in the U.S., for example in the aircraft, heavy machinery and automotive industries (yes, the new ones are non-union, but they're hardly minimum wage). Most new U.S. manufacturing jobs tend to be in industries that require a well-trained workforce with strong infrastructure support. Remember, the relevant number for labor advantage is not the wage rate, it's the unit labor cost. In many industries, low wage workers in impoverished countries cannot compete because the lack of support and infrastructure causes their low wage advantage to get swampted by their inability to produce as many goods in the same amount of time as workers in areas with more trianed support.
U.S. workers have a tremendous advantage in unit labor costs in many industries for that reason. Where they lack those advantages tend to be in either mature industries where the cost of transporting the product is relatively modest (think textiles and much of consumer electronics) or with products whose production requires a very great deal of unskilled labor but not that much infrastructure support.
The tough decision for a labor economist is to determine whether a loss in employment at a particular place and time represents cyclical fluctualtion, and is therefore short-term, or whether it represents a shift in comparative labor advantage, and therefore is long-term. The problem with Trump's focus on trade comes because trade displacements tend to be long-term, and have their roots in real cost savings. Fighting that means fighting substantive economic advantage. The only way to do that is to lower costs or raise productivity. Imposing trade barriers does neither.
John
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