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thebravecowboy
climber
just banana-jam it
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Jan 31, 2015 - 03:34pm PT
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do you know what the opposite of "pics or GTFO" is....?
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jan 31, 2015 - 03:41pm PT
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this is again a sad state of affairs to see what was once secret fun that the dirt dwellers shared, posted as if it were the latest pay to jump bungy spot.
We went for it!
pick a bridge to check and as a flight school.
Learn how much rope sends the free fall in to the whiplash stage,
Go for it with less beta it is a true adventure.
you may learn something about self and grow from the teaching or you could wind up dead.
please I am not single iNG you out this is just low T ,sad sack recognition that the world is beta saturated, making what was once note worthy , mundane.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 31, 2015 - 04:21pm PT
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Hopefully.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Jan 31, 2015 - 04:28pm PT
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Saw a big crane in the city yesterday and it reminded me of the intuitive genius of master rope jumper Dan Osman. Around 1998 or so, I had recently broken up with my girlfriend at the time, and had invited Dan (who had been living in his van as he was helping redesign one of my A5 waterproof alpine packs) to stay in my apartment in San Francisco. He was there for a month or two, and we did a lot of rope jumps in the middle of many nights.
One day, he came in, very excited, and announced that a crane, which was doing some work near the Bay Bridge, had been parked for the night in just the right position--he'd obviously had been keeping an eye of the cranes about town. He dragged me down there, and after a little fun hopping barbed wire fences and climbing across the bay on the underbelly of the Bay Bridge (which also gave us another view of the angle of the Crane), we determined it would go. We made a sketch of the jump and for the next few hours climbed and rigged the crane for a 200' spiderman-between-tall-buildings pendulum/freefall jump.
The way the crane was positioned, and the way Dan rigged the jump, gave him just enough room to soar in between a row of tall buildings. Based also on the rope jumping engineering principles I helped pioneer many years before, he used about a 2:1 ratio of loop/rope for this one (meaning, for the 200' jump, he started about 100' away from the anchor), which gave him an optimal free/fall/pendulum fall. It was pretty tight, and one of the few jumps I didn't go for in our nocturnal rope jumping adventures.
Here's the sketch we made before his jump (combination of his and my notes):
I'd recommend that folks ensure that the dynamics of rope jumping/swinging is intuitively understood prior to doing any rope jumps, especially in our National Parks!
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PcBayArea
Mountain climber
san francisco
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Jan 31, 2015 - 04:32pm PT
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thebravecowboy: Not sure what your response meant, guess its some type of sarcasm or joke?
Gnome Ofthe Diabase:? Yes, it is indeed widely known today, it's no longer a secret for just the frequent adventurous skilled climbers, it is what is is. I wish to do it before it becomes banned state and park wide. Ive been doing climbing for years, but never visited Utah before. A friend invited me to Utah and wanted to attempt an arch climb while there.
Also, I have no intention of jumping off one, Was going to rappel down with multiple ropes, then have a person on the ground use a separate rope to pull me in a direction. May seem like it defeats the purpose, but its safer and still a great experience to get to climb and rappel from an arch.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jan 31, 2015 - 04:56pm PT
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Do what the folks who came before you did. Hunt around for a really obscure spot where tourons have never been and Rangers mostly only see from helicopters.
Then have fun. If you don't blab about it, maybe you can do it for a couple years.
But if there is already a trail to it, expect to get busted. You have to be willing to do more work than anyone else to find those places.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jan 31, 2015 - 05:02pm PT
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The written word has again made me sound Daft ( a Brit. word)
By all means as you have at your disposal to keep your self safe and so happy . . .
Go for it!
I love all of that state, Utah . .. . adventourus, is it's middle name!
The less 'said' the better . . .
V V V V V + I so wish you would all be on the brave cowboy's Wavelength!!V V V V V
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thebravecowboy
climber
just banana-jam it
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Jan 31, 2015 - 05:08pm PT
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my response was intended do discourage further publication of such masturbatory stunts in our deserts.
pics or GTFO is an exhortation to publish your windmill-tilts. I want the opposite. further, if you need to ask about which windmills are tiltable, well, I suspect that you should be doing things other than tilting for these particular windmills.
resident sourpuss,
J. Burns
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thebravecowboy
climber
just banana-jam it
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Jan 31, 2015 - 05:14pm PT
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crusher that seems totz legit... JUST KIDDING!
better ways to recreate in the desert yeah, like golfing
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crunch
Social climber
CO
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Jan 31, 2015 - 05:30pm PT
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crusher that seems totz legit...
It's a long video, sorry. And the music sucks.
One issue:
A jump like this attracts folks who are know nothing about basic rope craft. While I respect that the guy who got injured toughed it out and self rescued, it seems frightening that, he, in the first place, stepped off a cliff, with a slack rope attached--evidently with lots of slack--when there was a ledge ~40 feet below.
Non one on the crew had any doubt about the wisdom of this?
The guy himself did not have a grain of climber-oriented common sense, defined, in this case, as fear, followed by a careful consideration of what he was about to do and the limitations of the equipment he was using?
EDIT: Sorry, PcBayArea. There's likely other places on the web for finding this kind of info. Good luck.
If this kind of BS gets worse, climbing gear will be sold, like scuba gear, only to those who have some kind of certification. And "roped activities" will be severely constrained in more and more places.
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thebravecowboy
climber
just banana-jam it
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Jan 31, 2015 - 05:39pm PT
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attracts folks who are know nothing about basic rope craft
Yes, I agree. And on some level it seems similar to a loser huffing nitrous on film. Any lardo can do it. The problem here is that too many lardos break the arch/stain it with blood/DRAW TOO MUCH ATTENTION.
EDIT: And yes, pcbayarea, I do loath you, gumbo. I was not EVER onesuch. :-)
Stop asking so many questions and go do it. And, yes, you are going to die.
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