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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Dec 17, 2014 - 03:59pm PT
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Yup.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Dec 17, 2014 - 07:32pm PT
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some more randome OT stuff!
I love this thread!!
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Dec 19, 2014 - 10:01am PT
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^^^
Now that made me laugh Bruce. Considerng all the crap I am going through right now here in Ireland, I love your comment, it has lightened up my day.
Cheers
Patrick
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neversummer
climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
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Dec 19, 2014 - 10:18am PT
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Dec 19, 2014 - 10:44am PT
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Chris,
Specifically, do blatantly political threads like "Why Republicans are wrong..." belong on SuperTopo?
To answer the question specifically; I don't think so.
Defining what's off topic on ST is a hard question that only the people who started and attempt to manage this forum can determine.
The strictest position would be that if it's not about climbing, it's too far off topic.
That would unfortunately eliminate a lot of often provocative and sometimes enlightening discourse.
Supertopo has "schooled" me on the pitfalls of communicating in cyberspace and I think I'm for the most part, a better communicator for the lessons.
We all have differing ideas of where the line between free speech and tasteless vitriol might be.
I think there's far too much that's clearly on the wrong side of the line around this virtual campfire and we'd never get away with such behaviour if we really were standing around a campfire.
Our societies have over the millennia developed the rule of law and true democracy and free speech are guided by this concept.
I think ST would benefit from a code of conduct and clear limits on language and unseemly discourse.
Respect.
PB
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Dec 19, 2014 - 11:07am PT
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This thread reminds me of that famous line: "If you have to ask what it costs, you can't afford it."
If you have to ask the OP question, then you can't afford the "answer."
The "development" of this thread affords "the answer."
(I surmise that CMac just executed one of the most classic trolls on these forums. Eventually even he's bored with it.)
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Dec 19, 2014 - 12:07pm PT
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Defining what's off topic on ST is a hard question that only the people who started and attempt to manage this forum can determine.
Or with a "Hide Thread" button everyone could determine for themselves. ;D
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Dec 26, 2014 - 02:13pm PT
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The only thing that bugs me about ST - an enduring feature of the internet - is the occasional complete anonymity of posters. In particular regarding religious or political rants, when not only do the posters conceal their name but they offer no evidence they were or are climbers - not even a photo of themselves on the rock or ice. But others here may differ and welcome a larger variety of opinion than is found in the climbing community.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Dec 26, 2014 - 02:23pm PT
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Werner for Secretary of State. So much better than Kerry.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 26, 2014 - 02:47pm PT
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+1 for jgill
Some minimal amount of climbing content would be nice along with all the anonymous psuedo-intellectual masterbation.
Rob Stahl
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Dec 26, 2014 - 03:18pm PT
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+1+1 for JGill.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Dec 26, 2014 - 03:46pm PT
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all the anonymous psuedo-intellectual masterbation...
The only thing that bugs me about ST... is the occasional complete anonymity of posters. In particular regarding religious or political rants, when not only do the posters conceal their name but they offer no evidence they were or are climbers - not even a photo of themselves on the rock...
+3.
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 27, 2014 - 04:59am PT
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Chris McNamara: Specifically, do blatantly political threads like "Why Republicans are wrong..." belong on SuperTopo?
There is the topic of climbing, and there is the community that climbs. The topic of climbing is fairly monolithic and singular. We know what climbing is and isn’t. But the community is varied, and it has many different personality facets that would be exposed around a campfire. If you were to limit community conversations to only one topic, people would get bored. We’d all turn in. Conversations range. Communities and language cannot be caged.
I may be wrong, but the climbing community seems educated, experienced, technically oriented, progressive, and travelled. IMO, they seem to favor democratic sensibilities. It seems that many people here think that Republicans are wrong. The size of that thread and its longevity suggest that it was a very popular topic—and that would make it relevant to the community.
EDIT: I forgot to add that it's a rough crowd.
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Dec 27, 2014 - 05:09am PT
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^^^The only thing I liked about that thread is that it kept political rants and squabbles, that would otherwise spawn more OT threads, contained to one thread.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Dec 27, 2014 - 06:25am PT
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I have a confession to make. Sometimes even when out climbing with others, we talk all day long, when the climbing allows, but don't discus climbing.
From now on, I swear as a climber, to only talk about climbing.
with deepest regret,
Jon Cochran
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Dec 27, 2014 - 08:24am PT
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Hey, I climbed that Lowenbrau route about 15 years ago. Played around on the wobbly, curving flake around the corner to the right. Wrote some flip, now embarrassing remark, about the cold winter wind, in the cairn on top...sigh.
But I really appreciate all of the input on this website. With such varied backgrounds and strong opinions amongst climbers, there's a bit of everything. I click and read what I want and don't take opinions personal.
FWIW: I do think that less anonymity would tone down the harshness.
Edit:
Hey, thanks Dave. I have that diagram somewhere on my bookshelf, but I am now out of country.
Amazing how much good granite is in East County.
I think the tone of this thread is good, and even has some climbing stuff...LMAO
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 27, 2014 - 08:56am PT
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Or with a "Hide Thread" button everyone could determine for themselves. ;D
and "deleting" a few idiots doesn't suck either...
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Hey Chris Mac,
You start a post, you ask some questions.
You now have 400 answers from us, but not a single reply from you. Please tell us what you are going to do!
There is no point in starting a post like this, if you don't intend to respond! So how bout it pls?
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