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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jun 24, 2014 - 09:20am PT
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jun 24, 2014 - 10:02am PT
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One of the benefits of the recently completed global warming phase is that the receding mountain glaciers have revealed ample evidence of much warmer periods of the Holocene. In Alaska and Europe many remnants of high altitude ancient forests, ranging from 1000 to 8000 years b.p. have been documented. These tree lines could only have formed in prolonged ice free and much warmer periods than the current warm period. We may never know the extent of this former warm periods since the ice is once again primed for advancement.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jun 24, 2014 - 10:15am PT
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*Record heat: Month of May is hottest on Earth**
WASHINGTON — Driven by exceptionally warm ocean waters, Earth smashed a record for heat in May and is likely to keep on breaking high temperature marks, experts say.
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Monday said May’s average temperature on Earth of 59.93 degrees Fahrenheit (15.54 degrees Celsius) beat the old record set four years ago. In April, the globe tied the 2010 record for that month. Records go back to 1880.
May was especially hot in parts of Kazakhstan, Indonesia, Spain, South Korea and Australia, while the United States was not close to a record, just 1 degree warmer than the 20th century average. However, California is having a record hot first five months of the year, a full 5 degrees above normal.
Georgia Tech climate scientist Kim Cobb and other experts say there’s a good chance global heat records will keep falling, especially next year because an El Nino weather event is brewing on top of man-made global warming. An El Nino is a warming of the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean that alters climate worldwide and usually spikes global temperatures.
Ocean temperatures in May also set a record for the month. But an El Nino isn’t considered in effect till the warm water changes the air and that hasn’t happened yet, NOAA said.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nation-and-world/record-heat-month-may-hottest-earth
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raymond phule
climber
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Jun 24, 2014 - 12:08pm PT
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I like how they don't clarify that the record is for the month of May.
haha
They only wrote it several times but I guess that without caps and bold that it is not clear enough.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2014 - 08:44am PT
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I like how they don't clarify that the record is for the month of May.
I don't know where you're looking Sketch (up your a*# maybe?), but I see them stating "May" in the headlines of the articles I've read.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Jun 25, 2014 - 08:47am PT
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Judging from 2 (so far) of the 4 global surface-temperature indexes, May 2014 was the warmest May on record. That's only one month, however, and of course record-setting events are by definition extreme. What's more notable is the large pattern: record-setting global warm temperatures have become more commonplace, while record-setting global cool temperatures were last seen ... when? Out of curiosity I drew this graph of monthly NOAA temperatures from 1/1880 through 5/2014. No month has set a cool record since the late 19th or early 20th century; all have set warm records within the past few decades if not the past few years.
The upward trends you see in each graph are not El Nino oscillations, they are not solar cycles, nor Force X From Outer Space. None of those things are climbing. Rather the trends seen for every month in this graph reflect the well-known radiative effects of greenhouse gas buildup.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2014 - 08:51am PT
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What's a working man and father to do?
Dingus, that's heartfelt post for sure.
Do we all turn into prepers, stock load weapons and food? I have a good buddy who is doing just that. He's growing a garden to support himself. But, is that a life, living in the after-world?
Today I see stories on the militarization of the police, and the five-year bell for our oceans.
What is our end game? I say screw it, I'm going out to have a latte.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jun 25, 2014 - 09:38am PT
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I look forward to your whining about me
first clear statement of your beliefs. good work.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jun 25, 2014 - 11:46am PT
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Try to keep up.
I can't think of anything more boring, mundane or predictable than keeping up with the sketch show.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jun 25, 2014 - 12:59pm PT
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I'm inspired by your expertise in the field of ignorance, sketch.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jun 25, 2014 - 01:18pm PT
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No Chiloe. The big picture of what you see there is the rise out of the LIA. As far as continuing monthly high records; it requires continuous adjustments of the past record (among Ither reasons to conform with model hindcasts) as well heavily weighted infilling (cowtan & way ) for missing data and your forte of statistical manipulation to justify. You are representing the missing heat is not missing camp of the many explanations for the hiatus. CO2 predominate forcing was represented to cause a monotonous linear rise in global average temps, which hasn't been forgotten. As poll after poll confirms; because of a combination of constant cry wolf alarmism that always proves false, exposure of charlatans in climate gate, and the well established fact of the nearly 18 year hiatus in global warming , the public is not buying the CAGW narrative.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2014 - 02:13pm PT
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Good ol' k-man... always leading with the ad hom.
Where is the ad hom attack Sketch? Turning paranoid??
Got any more false accusations? Or are you out of your allotment for the day (so many! I think maybe you broke your own record).
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Jun 25, 2014 - 02:16pm PT
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Rick, you've got a few sciency-sounding words in there but you're babbling. Not one sentence is true or even shows you understand what those words mean.
Which reminds me, how are you coming on finding that "majority" of climate scientists who support your declaration that global temperatures fell by 6 (or was it more?) degrees at the onset of the Younger Dryas?
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jun 25, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
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Sciency words Chiloe? I don't think so, sounds more like an indictment. Just like Canada, Russia, Australia, India and other nations have realized; the CAGW narrative and prescribed treatment is a crime against the populace if not against nature that they purport to want to protect. Judging by the amount of talk of subsidy reductions ,or total abandonment coming out of Europe , pols there are reversing course before their governments are voted out of office just like Australia. One can hope that realizing the same, this becomes a defining issue driving a large american turnout to dump the advocates of this crime here, before the socialist wet dreams does as much damage as in Europe.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jun 25, 2014 - 03:39pm PT
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rick, as is true to your thinking on this, your representation of the public consensus has more to do with what you want to be true than what reality presents.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jun 25, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
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Well Ed, l mean Dr. Hartouni, let's just wait to see what the polls say come november. One of us will be eating crow. If it's me ,I'll spit some feathers your way. That's the best I can do for ya, you old hippy.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 26, 2014 - 07:49am PT
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You asked if I had my head up my ass. Is that normal, civil conversation in your World?
Sketch, you come playing a victim when you are anything but civil in your own discourse.
I implied that your head was up your a*#. That's a straight-forward insult, not ad hom as you suggest. If you don't like the fire, get out of the kitchen (in other words, stop insulting others and perhaps they will stop insulting you).
Why did I imply your head was up your a*#? Here's a list of headline quotes from the posts mentioning the heat record.
k-man posts: Hottest May Ever Recorded
Norton: Record heat: Month of May is hottest on Earth
So from here, it looks like you have your head up your a*# when you state, "I like how they don't clarify that the record is for the month of May."
Then in an attempt to defend yourself, you tell a lie:
It's not in the headline. - "hottest on Earth."
Why did you not quote the whole headline, as I did in this post? I know why. It's because your head is firmly planted where the sun don't shine.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 26, 2014 - 08:49am PT
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I don't have a problem with exchanging insults. But I do have an issue with self-righteous posers, preaching from their high horses about my behavior, when they're the ones who start the sh1t.
Boo hoo hoo, hypocrite.
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