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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 16, 2011 - 05:58pm PT
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Hey all, I had to bail off this crazy climb and left a good amount of gear at the second bolt...
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/california/tahoe_vicinity/donner_pass/105736381
built and anchor on the bolt and then traversed to the crack right of Desire and built a large anchor with multiple pieces... a couple 4's, a three, and a two...
Please, please, if you could grab my stuff and send it to me that would be great...
Thanks in advance for giving my stuff back...
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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May 16, 2011 - 06:03pm PT
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Please refer to "Booty" thread on ST!
Peace
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:05pm PT
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It's not "booty"...
I left it, now can't someone get it back for me...
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The Dude
climber
Truckee, CA
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May 16, 2011 - 06:06pm PT
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Really?? Is this a troll thread or is there really a good story along with this. The second bolt is like 15 feet up..
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:07pm PT
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Only with my tears...
dude: fifteen feet to one man may be a thousand to another...
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:09pm PT
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Aww come on guys!!!! Where is the love...
why is that writing in blue apogee?
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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May 16, 2011 - 06:10pm PT
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May 16, 2011 - 02:52pm PT
I believe this, via Will Gadd, is from here originally...
When I first started climbing back in the early eightys I was taught the booty game. It was supposed to be fun and honorable. the rules went something like this.
#1 Any gear that you lose due to incompetence, getting spanked, fear, lack of skill , retrete, etc. becomes booty the moment that you give up attempts to recover said gear. The exception would be if you let it be known that were returning the next day at first light to resume recovery attempt. Once you give up on recovery attempts it is in fact BOOTY;)
#2 Gear left in the parking lot is lost and found, NOT booty.
3# Any gear left in the process of a rescue is NOT booty and shall be returned to the rightfull owners or next of kin.
#4 Finders of booty may offer to return booty to the spanked party but you will lose face if you accept the offer.
#5 it is extremly poor form to ask for lost booty to be returned to you. If the finders offer and you refuse the offer and they offer again then you may acept the return of the booty but you will still lose face and owe them a debt of honor. This debt may be eased but not completly erased by a gift of beer. (You and they will know that you are their bitch) It is best to suck it up and just say, hey, thanks for offering but you guys earned it.
The booty game is supposed to be fun and a way for strong poor climbers to build their rack at the expense of rich weak climbers. Italic Text As soon as someone gets hurt it is not fun anymore so everyone should pitch in, help out and try to get everyones gear back at the end of the day.
The best form is to solo up to snag the booty gear or lead up but rapping in is acceptable provideing that all recovery attemts by the loseing party have been exausted.
I am sure that its different by region but that is how we felt about booty in the north east.
read rule #1 and #5
Peace
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Captain...or Skully
climber
or some such
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May 16, 2011 - 06:11pm PT
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It's a link, Seth.
I'd help ya, but I'm outa range.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 16, 2011 - 06:12pm PT
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The love's prolly already on someone's rack!
How is it not booty if you left it?
This is a troll, right?
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:12pm PT
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as soon as someone gets hurt it is not fun anymore so everyone should pitch in, help out and try to get everyones gear back at the end of the day.
I scraped my elbow getting down, does that change things?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 16, 2011 - 06:17pm PT
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T2.
Not bad...
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:20pm PT
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The love's prolly already on someone's rack!
How is it not booty if you left it?
Oh, the horror!!! I can't even stand to think of someone else touching my cams... ;)
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
Oakland -> SLT
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May 16, 2011 - 06:43pm PT
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I don't understand.... You got to the second bolt and then bailed via your own, very expensive anchor? The bolts on Desire are bomber, why not just use a leaver biner or a small loop of cord or something????
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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May 16, 2011 - 06:45pm PT
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Right!!!?
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213
climber
Where the Froude number often >> 1
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May 16, 2011 - 06:50pm PT
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This doesn't make sense...not only could you have just bailed off one of the bomber bolts, but if you take two steps right you are in a 5.5 crack (a nice way to run solo laps up Desire and down this). Two long steps left and you are in the 5.6 huffer chimney. Something fishy...
C'mon seth we want the whole story!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:58pm PT
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but if you take two steps right you are in a 5.5 crack
That's where I built my retreat anchor... god, I don't like to think about it... the longest rap of my life...
Ah, Seth, you shoulda told me! You said you only left a little gear. If it's still there the weekend after this, I'll help you get it.
Damn it Jebus, where were you when I needed you? You should've been there...
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 07:08pm PT
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that doesn't mean you should basically steal his gear.
word, thieves!!!!
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Anastasia
climber
hanging from an ice pick and missing my mama.
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May 16, 2011 - 07:18pm PT
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Hey folks, I've pulled plenty gear off of climbs and returned it. Might be booty but heck... If you can make someone's day, why not?
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