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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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the FBI has a link for "Internet Harassment" but they will likely be closed for the next few days.
The FBI will not be closed, trust me.
"Essential" personnel will continue like all this shutdown BS never happened.
L.E. is "essential".
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zeta
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Kath,
It looks like as of 9:47, his account was deleted. I think you did the right thing to post this thread--now a lot of people know about his writing style, so will be on top of it if he emerges again.
I'm *so* sorry you're going through this. I was stalked a long time ago and the fear can definitely come back and haunt you...not sure if it'll help, but you might want to check out the book "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker (it was given to me and has some suprisingly good insight on how to deal with persistent stalkers)
good luck and hope to see you at Facelift sometime!
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Tobia
Social climber
GA
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I couldn't decipher his writing style... most of what I see on these threads that he posted is unreadable.
I am happy he will not be harassing anyone on this site; but I hate to think of his next phase, he seems a little bit more than disturbed. Whatever is wrong with him won't change because he isn't posting, it more than likely can be said that he will turn elsewhere and maybe dial it up a notch. A scary thought and hope something or someone gets to him.
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Disaster Master
Social climber
Born in So-Cal, left my soul in far Nor-Cal.
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Apr 7, 2011 - 05:00pm PT
He's a stalker, C-Mac.
Block the IP address if possible.
Who's CHris' IT dude? I forget his name and addy?
Director of Hooliganism:
RJ Spurrier
Randy is the co-owner of SuperTopo, developer of the database, and head web guru of the SuperTopo web site.
He helped me w / tech issues.
Stalkers suck.
There is a difference between free speech and dangerous nuts. What an as#@&%e.
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Tobia
Social climber
GA
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Weschrist:
Exactly what I mean when I said I hope someone or something gets to him. His mumbo jumbo is scary. Loughner or Son Of Sam who knows?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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The guy has some issues. Don't we all.
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nature
climber
Kovalum Kerala India
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well have issues and we all have drama. but there's a big difference between dealing with it yourself and turning it onto another human.
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Anastasia
climber
hanging from an ice pic and missing my mama.
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Oh I am so sorry eKat! This is disturbing. I agree, he needs to go somewhere else.
AFS
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tinker b
climber
the commonwealth
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locker i think it might be time to take that joint outside and enjoy the day, you aren't making that much sense here.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Ekat handled this perfectly!
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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eKat handled this perfectly!
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nature
climber
Kovalum Kerala India
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ventilate the glue room locker!
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Locker, Ekat realizes that this guy can just change his screen name. She also realizes that he can lurk. But now she has more people helping her keep an eye out and that makes her feel better. Plus she doesn't have to read his stuff directly, which is an affront to her. Those two things alone are worth having. She hasn't chosen to share everything that he has done, in part because the cops have suggested that she not share that broadly on the net. There are good reasons why she should keep it quiet. It is to protect her. If you don't understand why, well, I'm can't explain it here. Maybe some day if we meet face to face.
I hope you will accept that this is a serious situation. Your attempt at a joke doesn't sit the same as TGT's joke. TGT's joke is about us, not how serious this situation is. Your joke undermines the seriousness of this situation.
I'm certain that if your children were threatened by someone with mental health problems, you would take it serious. Why not take this serious too and offer support to Ekat.
As for the photo you posted. It was hardcore porn. Most of the stuff that has been posted on this site is softcore. Some find even that offensive, but will mostly let it slide if it doesn't take over the whole forum. So far it hasn't. I think that the line has even slackened a bit, but that is just my opinion and mostly I am staying out of these situations now. Some of the folks who were offended when you post, don't post here anymore. Maybe they were tired of your drama.
As for your complaint. Would you prefer that those who are posting pics that you think are similar to what you posted be banned? Or would you prefer that they be allowed to continue to post these pics? If you would prefer that they continue, then perhaps drop the complaint that its not fair. You are back. The forum is not static. It changes. You got banned, but things have changed a little and others are posting pics that you like. Why not be happy that the change allowed you back and you get to have some of what you want.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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She hasn't chosen to share everything that he has done, in part because the cops have suggested that she not share that broadly on the net.
So you are saying the cops definitely got involved already then, perhaps that he was issued a restraining order, that threats were made and these were followed up by DA and court? You have this info do you?
You seem to know a lot more than the rest of us, how's that?
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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And to be clear, if the webmaster on ST is any good, there are steps beyond deleting an account that can be taken. An admin can see a person's IP address (or addresses) and block those as well, so even if the person uses a different email/username, they can't get on.
Good luck getting rid of him.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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I know some because Ekat emailed me. I don't know the extent of restraining orders, nor all the particulars because Ekat is a very private person. Some of what I wrote is based on what I know about how cops handle these situations and its not all just about restraining orders. Its just not that simple. There are reasons to not post this stuff on an open forum. What I can tell you is that I know enough to know he crossed a serious line. Hopefully you can accept that.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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HFCS - Why all the questions? Does it matter that some folks on this forum might know more then others? Some folks know Kath better then others do. Moosie shouldn't have to defend himself for information he has and you don't have.
+1
I don't have much "inside" information, but I have enough from observing posts and emails from eKat and Moosie that I respect and trust their views on this. I think I'm as skeptical as anyone on this forum of most allegations, but not in this case. EKat is no drama queen and even though Moosie and I often disagree on unimportant political points, I trust his judgment on matters of living. If this frightens them, that's enough to frighten me, too.
John
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Thanks John, for the vote of confidence. I appreciate that as I also trust your judgment. Though we do disagree on some political issues.. haha..
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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holy sh#t they call for me to get banned for insulting someone's squirrel-like looks and this guys makes it all the way harassing females?
pate,
you threatened the manliness of some poseurs who were full of themselves, then some of them turned out to whine like babies, of course they wanted to ban you. (i rather enjoyed that myself!)
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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EKat:
I was going to suggest Fatties advice [thought I would never say this but there is a first] but looks like you have already done this by your earlier posting saying “I am not at liberty to discuss the legal action that has been taken”. Also get ahold or call your local FBI office in your area. So you have local, State, and the Feds. Laws are “who is control” and what can or cannot be done. But this is in your favor. Looks like he is another state so law might be different this is where the Feds come in.
The Pen/Trap statute applies to telephone and Internet communications. For example, every e-mail communication contains “to” and “from” information. A pen/trap device captures such information in real time of the party who is calling the individual under surveillance.
Additional homework: www.ecpi-us.org, they have links as well as National Institute of Justice look up their web site, make some calls, ask what is my best resolution in this situation?
Next think or follow up on what you want to do. With the way the budget is and man power might take some time but hang in there. They go by priority or what is the worst case at the moment till they follow up.
Most likely local police officers will tell you to get a good big dog. Teach him well not to take food from strangers. Sure, OK! Really not the best solution, just one, but still not a feeling of security or piece of mind which you seek. Your goal here is feel secure and not to be strained by constant paranoia or looking through the windows, walking down the street or looking at every corner for this guy on your next trip. I would say take a women’s defense class but would take years to get into a mental condition or close to this called “Condition Black”.
Condition Black is the state which your heart rate reaches 175 beats per minute due to psychological factors. It is a fight-or-flight survival instinct and your ability to think straight deteriorates. Your blood vessels constrict and you'll lose the following: peripheral vision, depth perception, near vision, hearing. And you will have the ability to do things that a normal human body is not capable of doing. Like someone on speed and uncontrollable.
The term "Condition Black" is also used as a color code of mental awareness by the military, as well as law enforcement organizations. It means that you are actively engaged in combat.
Military and law enforcement personnel train to avoid getting into the state of Condition Black for these reasons. Recent beatings by the police on camcorders we see all the time on TV and a few crazed GI’s in our current wars on the internet by news wire of beheadings, or in Viet Nam cutting ears of the enemy you just shot as a trophy were a big thing. It is understandable and happens.
The reason I put the above in is for you Robert Brad since I am sure you are reading this so make a note of it.
Stopping Chris might work but then you still have this idiot on your mind so follow up on the above first.
As for the communication or his e-mails, even if he tries to delete, double delete, everything by his past posting or even future posting he’s sh#t out of luck. Next step would have restraining order filed. If he changes name or get rids of his Facebook account they will pick it up as well.
Posting pictures of this guy on the telephone lines near your house might be another issue but Anders or your local police might be able to answer that one. There are a few other tricks you can use now that you have his Facebook and # but do not take this road since it could turn around and make you are stalking/harassing him and then all bets are off.
Of course then there are some of us here that ………………………..Hmmm! forgot what I was thinking at the moment.
But start here: notice internet or e-mail harassment
Stalking
Like domestic violence, stalking is a crime of power and control. Stalking is conservatively defined as "a course of conduct directed at a specific person that involves repeated (two or more occasions) visual or physical proximity, nonconsensual communication, or verbal, written, or implied threats, or a combination thereof, that would cause a reasonable person fear". Stalking behaviors also may include persistent patterns of leaving or sending the victim unwanted items or presents that may range from seemingly romantic to bizarre, following or laying in wait for the victim, damaging or threatening to damage the victim's property, defaming the victim's character, or harassing the victim via the Internet by posting personal information or spreading rumors about the victim. The overwhelming majority of victims are women (78 percent), and the majority of offenders (87 percent) are men. Nearly 60 percent of women and 30 percent of men are stalked by a current partner
According to Tjaden and Thoennes , 8.1 percent of women and 2.2 percent of men report having been stalked during their lifetime. One percent of the women sampled and .4 percent of men had been stalked during the 12 months prior to the study. Annually, approximately 1 million women and 370,000 men are stalked. Most victims (77 percent of women, 64 percent of men) reported that they knew their stalker. These figures exclude victims under the age of 18 and those who are homeless or do not have phones.
Stalking can be carried out in person or via electronic mechanisms (phone, fax, GPS, cameras, computer spyware, or the Internet). Cyberstalking—the use of technology to stalk victims—shares some characteristics with real-life stalking. It involves the pursuit, harassment, or contact of others in an unsolicited fashion initially via the Internet and e-mail. Cyberstalking can intensify in chat rooms where stalkers systematically flood their target's inbox with obscene, hateful, or threatening messages and images. A cyberstalker may further assume the identity of his or her victim by posting information (fictitious or not) and soliciting responses from the cybercommunity. Cyberstalkers may use information acquired online to further intimidate, harass, and threaten their victim via courier mail, phone calls, and physically appearing at a residence or work place.
Although cyberstalking does not involve physical contact with a victim, it is still a serious crime. The increasing ubiquity of the Internet and the ease with which it allows others unusual access to personal information, have made this form of stalking ever more accessible. Potential stalkers may find it easier to stalk via a remote device such as the Internet rather than to confront an actual person. Conduct that falls short of the legal definition of stalking may in fact be a precursor to stalking and must be taken seriously (U.S. Department of Justice, 1999).
Also (Tjaden and Thoennes, 1998)
As part of the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2005, Congress extended the Federal interstate stalking statute to include cyberstalking (18 U.S.C. §2261 A).
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