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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Redlands
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Feb 19, 2010 - 12:01am PT
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Little Danny? Still?
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John_Box
Ice climber
Bellingham
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Feb 19, 2010 - 12:15am PT
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It should be nuked.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Feb 19, 2010 - 12:24am PT
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What if his battery went dead? Its very hard to find electrical outlets above 20,000 feet sometimes. There are the solar chargers available but....
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adam d
climber
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Feb 19, 2010 - 01:01am PT
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nice first post dude (under this username). Got an agenda?
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Last clip of Lichen Lunch
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Feb 19, 2010 - 01:02am PT
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t*r is wise, eh?
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Last clip of Lichen Lunch
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Feb 19, 2010 - 01:13am PT
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Indeed. Thanks!
Go sweetly. I know you will.
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r and i
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2010 - 02:29pm PT
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Now established Chad Kellogg, himself, says he did not reach summit for this climb.
http://www.chadkellogg.com/contact
Alpinist.com editor Erik Lambert
http://www.alpinist.com/contact/
states Kellogg did not report reaching the summit in Kellogg's trip report sent to Alpinist. Erik reports he descended after reaching the ridge at the bottom between Aconcagua's two summits.
Appears, most of public believe he completed A Climb, by reaching the summit, after starting from a basecamp.
A Climb reaches the summit (the highest elevation of the mountain).
Chads high point photo shown here
http://www.explorersweb.com/everest_k2/news.php?id=19100
http://www.explorersweb.com/sitemedia/TSthumbs/20100210xacchad%20hs.jpg
Again, no features of the mountain shown.
Similar photo problem to his 2003 Khan Tengri summit-claim. Two claimed summit photos show no features of the summit nor mountain.
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&webtag=ab-climbing&tid=161
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=2&nav=messages&webtag=ab-climbing&tid=161
Author Martin Gutmann of Climbing Magazine. www.climbing.com/exclusive/readerblogs/about_martin_gutmann
Article by Martin Gutmann, a contributor to Climbing Magazine, home in Switzerland.
http://www.alpinenotes.blogspot.com/2010/02/the-kellogg-controversy-controversy.html
Titled
The "The Kellogg 'Controversy'" Controversy
1st paragraph of article.
"the Kazakh and Ukrainian dudes at my local climbing gym who wanted to rip my head off when I showed up yesterday for even suggesting that Kellogg was anything but a "crazy American lying dog,"
Kraig Becker, The Adventure Blog, author.
Defends Kellogg as reaching summit.
As shown in comments below the article:
http://theadventureblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/chad-kellogg-completes-new-route-on.html
Adventure Junkie said...
I'm simply reporting the news passed along from ExWeb. I have no reason to contact Chad. Until I hear otherwise, this was a successful summit along a new route.
Most of the public believe he did a true climb of Aconcagua. Basecamp to summit.
Recent article by Chad Kellogg
http://outdoorresearchverticulture.com/alpine-and-ice/aconcagua-to-everest-pt-2.html
"by Chad Kellogg"
"This spring, Chad is planning to set a new speed record on Everest."
Planning to set a new record?
Having never climbed Everest previously, nor any mountain near that altitude (eg K2, Anapurna, etc etc)?
Modesty is "hope to attempt a speed climb and hope to set a new record"
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elcap-pics
climber
Crestline CA
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Gee I wonder how many of us didn't get a pic at the "real summit" of ElCap? Maybe it doesn't really matter if the last part of a route is just a walk to the top... It is not like Aconcagua hasn't been climbed a zillion times.
But not being a mountaineer may be clouding my judgment, and I know nothing about the situation... so.... don't listen to me guys!
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r and i
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2010 - 02:57pm PT
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Does Chad Kellogg have integrity?
Proof of not.
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=2&nav=messages&webtag=ab-climbing&tid=161
Quote-----
Chad Kellogg publicly responded to his 1998 Rainier controversy on K2climb.net
Bottom of article, last two paragraphs. [Article is about the 2003 Khan Tengri 5 person race, with 3 finishers, race went to 1500 vertical feet short of the summit due to the lack of fixed lines].
http://web.archive.org/web/20050308184722/www.k2climb.net/story/stories/AninterviewwithChadKellogg,recentwinneroftheKhanTengrispeedclimbOct292003.shtml
Chad stated, in a question-answer format interview, in October 2003:
"I plan on climbing Rainier again officially"
But he never did.
Instead, in 2004, he did a Rainier speed climb unofficially, and claimed a new record. He abandoned his public commitment.
Kellog then changed his promise, and wrote on his website, at the bottom of his 2004 report:
http://web.archive.org/web/20041208022401/http://chadkellogg.com/rainier.html
"I intentionally chose to not use any "timing officials" to "officiate" my climb as I believe that climbing community has always relied upon the integrity and reputation of the climber to validate their accomplishments."
K2climb.net interview:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050308184722/www.k2climb.net/story/stories/AninterviewwithChadKellogg,recentwinneroftheKhanTengrispeedclimbOct292003.shtml
ExWeb: "Last question - there's been some controversy over another climber beating your Mount Rainier speed record set a couple of years ago - what are your thoughts on that?"
Chad: "... I plan on climbing Rainer again and trying to reset the standard officially."
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Here he uses the idea of integrity, to defend his failure to act with integrity. To keep his public promise.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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The horror. What, you believe the dude, after climbing a totally sketchy death route on the HUGE south face, doesn't deserve credit for the climb because he didn't tag the same summit that hundreds and hundreds of punter stagger up every year? Really? Do you have a life?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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r an i,
why don't you just sppedclimb your ass right on out of here!
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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Dan A#@&%e. The ultimate leg humper stalker.
F*#k off.
edit
That is classic. The word filter changes H O W I T T to Asshole.
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Jingy
Social climber
Nowhere
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I guess we see what the intent really was...
"nice first post dude (under this username). Got an agenda?"
someone called it right off...
good call
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elcap-pics
climber
Crestline CA
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Dude... you need to learn how to post photos on ST
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Dolomite,
Bonington's Annapurna South Face was probably the first mountaineering book I ever bought. I was probably 13 or 14 and it seemed the bomb. That picture exemplified that more than anything else.
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Dolomite
climber
Anchorage
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Yeah, Fat Dad, I just happened to be rereading Annapurna South Face--one of the great climbs and a really really fine book. Too bad the summit photo wouldn't measure up to r and i's standards of "proof"!!!!
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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I know how to post photos, I also know how to photo nuke a Dan Whorewitt thread... That rat bastard should go find a new obsession.
It's a pity I didn't get in on the first page.
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