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nick d
Trad climber
nm
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Dec 12, 2009 - 10:12pm PT
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"imbarrisment"?
I would be more than embarrassed had I written that. I'm going with ashamed.
End of spelling rant. I can't make any promises to the future though!
ps...Dude, if you are worried about a girl you broke up with, got dumped by, whatever, years ago, try to get some perspective on this. Is your life really hung-up on some long ago failure? That was then and this is now, get in the moment and live it up!
Take nothing from the past but knowledge that can help you in the now, and forget about the material things. All those possessions you lost are just opportunities to get some better swag.
Good luck to you both! Be happy with what your lives are, instead of unhappy with what they are not.
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Dec 12, 2009 - 10:33pm PT
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That would be nice but you can see how involving his father instead of the law has backfired. The law seams to be the only answer. I won't be accused of harrassing my lawyer in an act of seeking resolutions. Plus It will be nice to have a record of this. It will show a pattern.
Good Luck Ryan.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Dec 12, 2009 - 10:50pm PT
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Pyro
I've met Ana. She is a nice young lady. If what you say is true, just ignore her. Consider any gear she had of yours gone forever, don't ask for any of it back, don't involve yourself. Stay away.
As far as contacting the authorities... what a sad materialistic weasel. Give that stuff up, its just toys. Not worth screwing with the community for.
and all this talk about a baseball bat and fits of rage? Awesome stuff. You sound legit, a tough guy. Sometimes I feel tough, thats why I train with guys twice my size and get my aggressions out tapping out my training partners. Maybe you should invest in some martial arts training so you don't feel the need to lash out irrationaly, as in this thread. The bigger man walks away.
edit - take your number down, search engines have already latched onto it I'm sure. You can encode it (ate won ate nyne won for etc etc) if you still want people here to see it... not sure why.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 13, 2009 - 12:35am PT
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Am I out of line wondering what one would be doing with a port-a-ledge in a gym?
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enjoimx
Big Wall climber
SLO Cal
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Dec 13, 2009 - 12:45am PT
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This is a domestic dispute and really shouldnt be on the Supertopo forum.
Can anyone say OFF TOPIC!??
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Dec 13, 2009 - 01:07am PT
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It sounds like hanging on to the guys stuff probably didn't help matters...., but then I don't know the whole story. For some folks a portaledge or climbing gear is all they have, and I don't know that advising the guy to walk away and forget his gear would work if the shoe was on your foot or mine. I know if I broke up with a chick, I would expect my gear back, and if I had her stuff, would make sure she got her stuff back as well. Fair is fair.
ok, let the sh#t storm rain down on my head now....
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Dec 13, 2009 - 02:00am PT
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I know Ryan from rebolting work in 2007.
Ryan is (recently) married.
I think he would like to put the past behind him;
I bet he probably wishes he had not seen his old portaledge.
It sounds like he is conflicted about refusing to take his gear back when you offered it to him,
but now he wants it back (if you still have it).
It sounds like when you initially offered to give the gear back, he was not ready to accept it.
Since that has changed, it seems like the problem would be resolved
by giving it back if you have it, or see if the person you gave it to will
give it back.
Anastasia, it sounds like your main concern is that his communications with
you seem irrational and/or inappropriate.
Do you have a mutual friend in the LA area who can negotiate between the
two of you, so you don't have to talk directly?
Modern irony: I'm friends with both of you on facebook, but do not know either of you very well.
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 13, 2009 - 02:07am PT
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So all this drama is over a portaledge?
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Dec 13, 2009 - 02:27am PT
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That would appear to be the case.
Pretty whacked to bring this to The Taco, IMKSHO...
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Dec 13, 2009 - 12:11pm PT
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Look Ryan, anyone on this site or the police can read back at your posts and clearly see you are lying. So take your sociopathic bullshit someplace else and leave her alone. ENOUGH! STOP WITH THE BULLSH#T EMAILS, THE PHONECALLS, back off and leave her be. I worked in the VA with mental patients for years. Get help dude.
Pretty whacked to bring this to The Taco
Knott if she was/is fearful. Somehow it's ok to post all kinds of inane political stupidity's but when an actual st poster is threatened by another st member she's on her own and we just cut, run and ignore her cry for help?
I'm glad she did, and especially appreciate Fattrads offer to help. Anyone who will stalk another like he obviously is, despite his lying post above saying he isn't. Go back in time and read his old posts, and his sickness keeps cropping up. It's obvious dude has mental issues, despite the lie he puts on just above that this is her fault. It isn't. He's lying.
It appears that Mister E and Skip already got the same treatment followed by an apology from "Pyro" for some near identical type of crazy stalker harassment. Makes you wonder whats wrong with the dude. Hey, just stay the hell away from Anastasia Pyro. She doesn't have sh#t of yours, understand, it was years ago, the computer, if it even exists, is not worth $5 bucks, you didn't say anything then so it's gone and not yours now. Should have said something then, you didn't - so STFU about it now.
Whats Anastasia suppose to do to shake this crazy leech off? He's ended a couple of threads Anastasia or Bachar posted on with his out of context craziness. Here's how it went for E, how would you like this to occur to you Knott? It's total bullsh#t.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1000142&tn=0&mr=0
E said "I get phone calls, e-mails, telling me I am stealing, we get the Valley-Go-Home treatment, as well as interrogation about my qualifications by so-called ASCA representatives when I replace some bad bolts in Malibu. Why weren’t they replaced earlier, Mr. ASCA Representative? And the other bad bolts too?
Sounds familiar? Does to me....then comes the apology from Pyro (must have been the partner of Ben noted in the story):
sorry E and Skip sent you an apology letter.
Guyman was right my heart is in the right place but my english is a second language!
Hope you can forgive me.
Hope you don't hate me.
echo is a great place to climb.
I love good quality routes.
Hope the grid bolting would stop somehow.
Bizarre stuff....as the Taco turns......
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Dec 13, 2009 - 01:31pm PT
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My opinion stands. This isn't the place for this kind of crap. A few phone calls would have sufficed.
In any event, there are surely two sides to this story - as much as we'd like to believe otherwise.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Dec 13, 2009 - 01:45pm PT
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JERRY!! JERRY!! JERRY!! JERRY!!
*couldn't resist.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Dec 13, 2009 - 02:03pm PT
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..ain't funny Crimpie (although you are and I love your presence here) I just want to say that this is sick stuff. This kind of thing can escalate into violence quickly, and we should condemn it quickly and totally. Go back and review Pyros posts.....it comes through in places. One moment he's normal and the next he's starting to tweek out.
We should support Ana in her attempt to shake this crazy person off before it turns into a needless tragedy, or he starts stalking you or me next like he obviously did to Mister E for some slight E was not aware of. E brought the issue to Supertopo and you didn't say anything then: whys that? Ok to beat a woman but not a man? Sup with that man? We should all of us condemn this behavior. UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR IS UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR RYAN!!!!! YOU KNOW YOU'RE OUT OF LINE, STOP IT!
Mods: Please do not delete this thread. We should publicly yell and scream our support for Anastasia and continue until this sociopath backs the hell off!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 13, 2009 - 02:28pm PT
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I think this is a good thing to Not keep quiet about.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Dec 13, 2009 - 02:29pm PT
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Agreed.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Dec 13, 2009 - 02:38pm PT
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I don't know either Anastasia or Pryo except from the forum. I generally like both of them from what I have read. I am not going to say whose version of the story is correct. I don't care. What I care about is helping people feel secure.
What I know about these type situations is that people can appear to most to be just regular folks, yet be harassing someone. I have a friend from a long time ago who physically abused his wife. He was a good buddy and I really liked him, and I didn't figure out that what his wife was telling us was true until he broke her arm. Her injuries did not line up with what he said happened as she had a bruise on her arm in the shape of a hand. It was then that I started paying attention to what she said and I pushed him to get help. He eventually did get help for his temper and for his lack of respect for women. This took a serious effort on his part and on the part of his friends. We pushed him hard, yet we wouldn't have until the proof finally came out because around us he was very easy going and fun and so we thought his wife was exaggerating. Plus we thought that we all have tempers and so we could understand him getting mad. But some folks think it is okay to physically abuse a woman, they feel their pride is at stake if a women doesn't do everything they want. They aren't this way around men or even around women who aren't what they term, "theirs". So most people think the woman is exaggerating the abuse.
Then these women go to the friends of the guy for help, and they aren't believed. Then they go to the police and the officers don't believe either, because they meet the guy and to them he appears like a regular guy. And so the abuse continues until someone is hurt very bad and people can't ignore the situation anymore. This is a serious problem in this country and in the world.
And yet I have also seen the other side of a story. It is incredible what you see when you belong to a big church. Ack.. I witnessed a situation where a woman played on peoples sympathy to wreck her husband. He wasn't abusing her and it took a lot of effort to prove this. This was in the early days of video cameras. To prove that he wasn't hurting her and that she was doing it to herself as she had a mental illness, he rigged cameras in his house and caught her on video smashing her arm. What a mess that situation was. It was in the early days of hearing about men abusing women, so everyone took the womans side without really looking into the story. The man was practically crucified until he got that video. Then we realized that the woman had serious mental health issues and we had to push her to get help. Yet the mans reputation was in ruins. We had even pushed him out of teaching a sunday school class that he had been teaching for a number of years.
So I do understand that this could go either way and I don't think that we should jump to conclusions. These can be hard situations. I hope that both will reflect on what they are doing and seek whatever help they need.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Dec 13, 2009 - 02:41pm PT
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Dang, I read my post and think.."well what the heck do you do in these type situations". I just don't know. I want to keep either person from being hurt.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Dec 13, 2009 - 02:45pm PT
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I think this is a good think to Not keep quiet about.
No one is saying to keep it quiet. Dozens of people could have been contacted directly for emotional support.
The police or DA could have been contacted and asked for advice. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR PSYCHO DRAMA!
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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Dec 13, 2009 - 02:47pm PT
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Gonna agree with HK on this one.
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getalifeyoubitch
Social climber
newyorkcity
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Dec 15, 2009 - 01:49am PT
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i think this whole thing is complete bullsh#t. if you are truley afraid of this "stalker" than you should have gone to the POLICE FIRST and not your computer to post a blog about it. sounds like you are searching for attention. leave him alone. Ryan is a wonderful person. This crazy gypsy is off her rocker and needs to get a life.
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