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johntp
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 21, 2009 - 10:54pm PT
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Okay, here is the deal.
I want this hammer to be used, see the stone and visions of those who use it. Todd can use it any time he wants. Anyone else that wants to take it for a spin is welcome if I have a reasonable expectation that it will be returned.
I do not own this hammer, I am merely it's steward until it goes to the Yos Climbing Museum.
The mandatory requirements are that you:
1) make a minimum $50 donation to Jim
2) pay the shipping and return cost and let me know when you want it and will return it. Time is not an issue.
3) Post a trip report with pics.
If there are any dirtbags out there that are too broke to meet the first two requirements, let me know. Been there, done that, poaching the valley trash cans for aluminum BITD.
Peace,
Johntp
Edit: The only requirement that applies to Todd is No. 3, but is not mandatory, just hoped for.
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adventurous one
Trad climber
Truckee Ca.
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Oct 21, 2009 - 11:20pm PT
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Now that is really cool!
It will be interesting to see where that hammer goes for the next phase of its "life".
Would be great to see it get to a few more interesting places before it ends up in a museum.
Even better if someone were to take it on a "Bridwell style" first ascent with an epic trip report.
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2009 - 03:54am PT
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bump
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 24, 2009 - 04:28am PT
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very cool
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Oct 25, 2009 - 08:08pm PT
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Today we used the awesome Bridwell hammer;....I felt like the mighty Thor.....We did a "previously unreported route "......The Hammer 5.8 Four bolts to a 2 bolt anchor. It's a cool route, done ground up, on the lead with no prior top rope or funny business... and I'll be sending the hammer to John for it's next journey;....this is gonna be fun to see what and where this magical hammer goes and does...Thanks for letting me have my turn first.....please post who would like to have a whack next, and what and where.....
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 25, 2009 - 08:13pm PT
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A very cool idea! Hopefully the hammer will be taken care of on its travels, and in due course safely arrive at the YCA. It would be fun if photos of the hammer's adventures are posted - maybe a pink flamingo should be added, just for fun?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Oct 25, 2009 - 08:29pm PT
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I just got back from the Copeland funeral with the Z4 overloaded with Kyle's rack. (His wish and that of his parents as well)
Some of the stuff will obviously go to museums, and some the trash heap, but there is plenty that can fall into median groups.
I plan to auction a large pile with the proceeds going to Layton Kor. Kyle would have liked that.
Some of the aid gear I might give to young aspirants with big plans.
Some still may yet prove useful to me (baby angles??)
But perhaps some of the cams or perhaps other items might serve in the same function, that is,get to use the great KC's gear on a climb.
Any thoughts?
Perhaps locating the gear somewhere in Moab waiting for visitors?
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johntp
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2009 - 10:03pm PT
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Todd-
Looking GUD!
Edit: no digits were harmed in this route portrayal.
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2009 - 11:44pm PT
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Bump! Come on! You have the chance to hike this piece of vision up a climb and support an icon of our sport. All I'm asking is a minimum $50 contributed to Jim, freight and photos. If you are a regular here I trust you to get it back to me (otherwise the Taco karma will hunt you down and extract retribution).
Anyone headed to a new route in Patagonia? New route in JT? Big Rock? Himalaya next spring? Wacking up the Cap next summer? Feel the spirit of this hammer and give some support to a fellow climber.
Send the check to Todd. Add a reasonable amount to cover mailing. After it clears, we can work it out from there.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Oct 26, 2009 - 11:57pm PT
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It was awesome to see "the hammer" attached and hauled up. Watching it strike bolts in a new route put up by Todd Gordon and then a new climber and a female at that doing the first ascent. WOW !(Did I get the terminology correct ?)
Thinking of all the history that piece of equipment has been a part of in the past and then today was a trip.
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2009 - 12:29am PT
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Thanks Lynne. Just trying to get this whammer on the road to generate cash for Jim, stories and pics.
Edit: Lynne, you may knott know it but you are now a first ascentionist.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Oct 27, 2009 - 12:47am PT
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I might have to "borrow" it for my solo of Zodiac next May.
I can't think of a better way of guaranteed success!
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2009 - 12:49am PT
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Nature. You have first dibs.
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2009 - 10:19pm PT
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Mike-
Did not get your PM. Sent you one.
Todd-
I kind of jumped ahead of the game. Are you willing to take the checks and making sure they get to Jim? If not, I'll take care of it but need info. I should not have volunteered you without clearing it with you first. Did you get the check? What does Jim think of this plan for his whammer?
Nature's Zodiac report is pending; wish I did not have to wait until May.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2009 - 11:08pm PT
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I'm feeling a bit conflicted here. I think I am doing a good thing to return Jim's hammer to the community, but am a thoughtful about why those who know Jim (other than Todd) have remained silent on this thread.
I did not post my bid to have this hammer sit on a shelf. Nor did I want to take something from Jim that I'm sure has many memories for him that I could never comprehend. I did this to do what I could to aid his cause.
To those who know and have climbed with him; am I doing a good thing or should this hammer be returned to Jim?
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Rock-a-bye Babe
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:19pm PT
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Hi,
I'm interested in the hammer as a gift for my husband if it's for sale. I've already given him Fred Becky's helmet, Bryan Burdo's ice ax... heck, I'll send a trip report with Dan using all three. We would donate it to the Yosemite Museum when Dan is done with it.
(Bryan, if you are out there and remember 722 11th Ave in Seattle, shoot me an email. The Griffins miss you.)
Suzy
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2009 - 11:32pm PT
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The hammer is not for sale. It is available for jonesin by the community if you are known in the community and I feel there is a reasonable chance it will be returned (my discretion). See the OP.
Then again, if you will send a check for $20,000 to Jim (plus postage), I will consider it.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:41pm PT
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johntp;.....please send any checks for Jim to me;....I'll make sure he gets them ...I communicate with Jim once or twice a week, and go down to Palm Desert about every 2 weeks.....
My take on this hammer is;
a) johntp keeps the hammer for himself, and saves it for a collectable;...cool
b) johntp keeps the hammer for himself and beats the crap out of it at the crags;....cool
c) johntp keeps the hammer and uses it around the house for household and car repairs;...cool
d) johntp sell the hammer to suzy and she give it to her husband;...cool
e) johntp loans the hammer to people to use and they send Jim a $ gift to me to give to Jim, and then they post pic of the hammer and it's usage on supertopo;...cool
f) johntp give the hammer back to Jim (don't bother;...he's over it.....he has banged enough metal for us all....)...
g) Melt it down and make a statue of Locker out of it;.....not a good idea.
f) Give it to Ken for the Yo museum now or later;.....ask Ken what he thinks about this...
g)It's all cool;.....and thanks for letting me use the mighty hammer;....I felt the power and the glory.
Thanks johntp, for steppin' up and helping Jim and his family;..that is the most important part.....the $ helps so much and the coming together of climbers to help out is really an awesome thing.....it's a very good and good thing;....and in today's world, ....it's a breathe of fresh fresh air.....I know Jim likes the idea of it traveling around and getting used;.....it's a great concept, if it would work.....it's up to you johntp.....but anything is cool with Jim and myself.....(OK...even the melt-it-down and make a statue of Locker bit;......it's your call...)...
Cheers, and good climbing....
Todd Gordon (Here's my address if any hammer users want to make a donation...)....P.O. Box 138 Joshua Tree, CA. 92252
Phone (760) 366-9395.
I have some more really cool stuff from my last trip to Jim's house.....I'll post soon.
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Rock-a-bye Babe
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Oct 28, 2009 - 03:52am PT
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Johntp, you've created a cool vision for this illustrious hammer. Helping Jim is a fine cause. After re-reading all the posts I get the picture now--what a great idea--a Traveling Peace Hammer.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Oct 28, 2009 - 10:57am PT
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I think it ought to go up on WoS,...
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Oct 28, 2009 - 09:59pm PT
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Jim is trying to find work;....he is a climbing guide (now pretty much retired from that), and a rigger (he's had some work , but not much).....He's been doing alot of writing...alot;....but it's not paying the bills. He's tried to find other work, but nothing yet;.....he also has transportation issues, which complicate things;.....but he is far from lazy;...and at age 66 (I believe)......what the heck;.......are we to work until we are 90?...and nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head to help out or buy anything.....(not yet;.....anyways...).....For those who choose to help Jim and his family;....muchos gracias....and for those who choose not to.......that's cool too....Jim and I are trying to have fun with his gear which he really doesn't need anymore...(He says all his friends have gear, so when he wants to go climbing...he can use THEIR rack from now on...)......so if you want something to collect or use, and/or you just like to help out a brother.....;....ponie up.....to me it's all such cool stuff;....real stuff used on real climbs by a dedicated, motivated, talented, visionary, and inspirational person......It's Jim Bridwell's personal climbing stuff;......for us climbers, that's alot.....(For sport climbers or gym climbers who haven't heard who Jim Bridwell is.....he's sort of like a red bull, a Starbuck's double expresso, and a bong hit.....all combined together.....does that help any?)
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2009 - 10:27pm PT
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Rock a bye-
Thanks for understanding. If Dan wants to hike this hammer up a route, so far it is open until May when the Nature fish guy will do his route up Zodiac.
Looking at it another way, if you are flush and want to extend what I am trying to do; if you and Dan have the same vision to keep it a part of the community rather than gathering dust. Send the $1,000 check to Todd and it is yours.
Peace.
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couchmaster
climber
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John you're an inspiration. Todd, show the paypal address and I'll send a $50 check, ...well not just cause I've been drinking - just because John and you are such a damn inspiration. Love to feel the hammer myself, and even do a route with it. For now, I'll send some scratch anyway and need nothing in return.
Some hammers of mine for the rest of you:
I have permanently loaned one of the Forrest Wall hammers out, so it's missing, and can't find a few as well, but here's the rest. BTW, my favorite, and I've used it 2 times this month, is the Kong designed by the Bird, and the Forrest Wall Hammer in the pic. I like the Kong as it's heavy (Kong makes 2 - this is the heavier 850 gram model), and the Forrest as it has the longest handle. I see Jims Kong has a custom, longer than normal handle.
Looks perfect!
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Ron, can't wait to see how Kyles stuff rolls out. Looks like you are giving it some careful thought. Good for you dude. It's an equal inspiration how you are helping Kor.
Regards to all
Bill
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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paypal address;....andreatoddgordon@gmail.com
Well make sure Jim gets the $50
Also, John should have the hammer now;....anyone interested needs to contact John, and he'll send off the mighty hammer and we shall see where it travels to next.....take lots of pictures;..we need proof!.....let's get on it;...get the ball rolling...(Cool hammer collection, Bill;......some collect stamps, some coins, some baseball cards..,...some climbing hammers...)...
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2009 - 06:53am PT
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Todd-
The hammer has been received. Thanks. I'd like to know a little more about this piece.
Right now it is having some morning coffee before heading to the eastside to see DR's show on Saturday.
Couch, your $50 contribution earns you a spin with The real deal. Where do I send it and when?
Cheers.
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2009 - 07:39am PT
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No reason to be terrified, unless your on A4. That's the name of the game and the risk we take. And if you break the handle on this bad boy, more power to ya. This hammer wants to see more rock, not collect dust. But you better post some pics!
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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If you break the handle, I bet Jim would put a new one on it;...he's quite handy around the house.....vaccuming, dishes, dusting, new handles on hammers, etc...
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2009 - 06:16pm PT
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Couch, your $50 contribution earns you a spin with The real deal. Where do I send it and when?
pretty simple really.
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2009 - 11:05pm PT
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Munge is in. Couch- what about you? I'd really like to see us give some $$ support to Jim, but at any rate this puppy is sitting on my counter and really pissing me off. F-in hammer doesn't have to work for a living and just wants to climb. Sits there every night letting me know what a wanker I am. I need someone to calm this bad boy down by slapping it on some steel.
I can waive the $$ requirement as long as the Taco has some fun with this piece of Jim's heart and soul. The only requirement I have is that you are a regular Taco idiot and post some pics when you swing it. Send some $$ to Todd if it fits your reality.
John
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2009 - 05:27pm PT
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And So The Journey Begins
This piece of iron is headed to San Jose. Where next?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Nov 16, 2009 - 05:07pm PT
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Todd,
I'll send some your way in the next pay period.
This should be in use within a couple weeks and then again in mid December.
Pics to follow upon said whackamole.
-Munge
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johntp
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2009 - 09:47pm PT
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I see an opening in January. Anyone want to use Jim's whammer to flush out a new route or replace some 1/4" old school stuff?
Come on! Send $50 to Todd's paypal and spend some time climbing with a piece of our heritage. You don't even need to use it; hang it over your shoulder and enjoy the aura and strength.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Nov 30, 2009 - 01:59am PT
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andreatoddgordon@gmail.com is our paypal address.............or check to Jim Bridwell and send to Todd Gordon P.O. 138 Joshua Tree, Ca. 92252
Swing the mighty hammer....it's a gas.
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2009 - 09:57pm PT
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Hey Mike-
For some reason we are not connecting on the ST PM's. Send me an email at jtpbka_ at_aol.com. Ignore the underscores. Would like to get this in your hands, as it is obvious you are a hammer afficianado. Not sure what the Munge has planned, but we should be able to get it to you.
Hey Munge-
When your done with your travels, let me know what your plans are. Let's get this dog on the hunt!
Just need to make sure we get it to that sushi guy in time for his Zodiac solo.
Let's keep the ball rolling.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Nov 30, 2009 - 10:05pm PT
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Had planned to use it this weekend and was just looking for this thread to relate the dissappointment.
Stormage moved in for Saturday so we never got to hammering in gear, and I only did a few things Sunday morning. I'm out this weekend. Actually I'll be in So Cal, so can drop it off if there is dedicated midweek use for the new two weeks, and they will be able to use it effectively. I'm hoping to use it again the 19th and 20th and after the 27th thru the new years on one or two Pinnacles Nat. Monument projects that I'm going to have to sack up for.
The hammer will be the guiding force!!
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Nov 30, 2009 - 10:12pm PT
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Let's see some pictures;...We need proof......don't mean a thang if it aint' got that swang....
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2009 - 10:13pm PT
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No problem Munge. Keep it until you have a chance to wield it. With Jim's aura hanging on your shoulder, you will have enough inspiration to boogaloo.
Keep it going.
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2009 - 10:26pm PT
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Hey Todd (OT)-
I did a bit of climbing on JT rock similar to your FA photos. Kind of reminds me of the Tuolumne crystal intrusions. Is it geologically related?
Curious, what is your basis on where to drill on this mixed rock. Obviously it is subjective, but do you look to use the intrusions to strengthen a placement or do you stay away from the intrusions when drilling?
Cheers.
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2009 - 10:37pm PT
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Base-
That is me. I cannot believe I'm having to push this hammer. Crimminy, if someone could play a tennis set with a Sampra's racket there would be people lining up with major bucks.
No gold here, just working to help out someone that drew me into the sport, and at the same time keep this hammer in action. Yeah, it does not have a polymer handle and is not high tech, but it has guts.
You remember the articles that drew us in and made us dream. If you can help me keep this moving I'd appreciate it.
John
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Nov 30, 2009 - 10:52pm PT
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When I drill on rock with those square knobs,..I just try to find the rock that has the most dense sound..........the knobs do break off....so I try not to drill into them....way cool to look at and fun to climb on too....only seen it in Rattlesnake canyon.....and only at the start of it too.....it's cool stuff......and I'm all for helping JIm and Layton out, and for passing the hammer around...and taking pictures of the hammer's adventures......it's just for fun......I need entertainment.....I go to work, wrestle babies, do alot of housework....I need entertainment...
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BASE104
climber
An Oil Field
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Nov 30, 2009 - 11:01pm PT
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You could devote an entire website to where that hammer travels around.
That would be pretty cool.
Yeah, don't drill into one of those fat crystals. Feldspar weathers faster than quartz, so I imagine you figured it out. Damn crystal might pop out.
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johntp
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2009 - 11:04pm PT
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Base-
I really do not want too much thread drift here, but where are the references to where we can support Layton? I know I've read a lot of threads. Maybe you could start a new one?
How did the horizontal drill go? Done or working still? Don't know if you remember or not, but before I came to Norman I spent a year or so offshore in the Gulf on NG rigs. 1979? We did a lot of directionals. Wild science.
Peace.
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BASE104
climber
An Oil Field
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Nov 30, 2009 - 11:10pm PT
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I'm gonna start a Kor thread to keep this seperate. You are right.
You could start a hilarious website with pictures of where the Bridwell hammer visits on its travels.
I would put a metal inlay in it to send it back to you. I have been around too many dropped hammers. Doesn't hurt the hammer, though.
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2009 - 12:10am PT
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Mike and Munge-
Sent you both an email tonight. Mike's came back undelivered; I think we have a problem with our ISP's. Probably mine. Let's see if we can work this out so you both can meet your objectives.
Mark- thanks for the info on the intrusions. I'll pretend I understood it.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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soon!
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Go for it!......(bring the camera....)...
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Dec 24, 2009 - 03:02am PT
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So who is next?
Mucci and I hope to have this done by early January before the raptor closures come in.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1040909/Premeditated_part_1_-_TR
I think Mike. is in for fun with the hammer.
But one of the main reasons for this is to raise some fundage for Mr. Bridwell- The Man.
think about it, see what your plans entail, make some fun happen for a good cause.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Dec 24, 2009 - 11:00am PT
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Good one....keep the love going...
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 08:06pm PT
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Bumpin' it.
From the photos it looks like the boyz have a gnarly route working. Hope ya'll are home safe.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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bumpity bump
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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"Who got the hammer?"......(J. Bridwell, Jan. 1, 2010....)....still cranking the climbs out......
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Johntp, I just saw your note: you're an inspiration - $50 paypaled moments ago. Said this:
"For Bridwell and the idea of a hammer that Johntp is spreading the love on:-)
ps, I don't want to use it or waste the $ in mailing it to me -give it all to Jim, but I do want to know the handle length out of intellectual curiosity."
So, if anyone can measure the handle length, which appears abnormally long in the pics, it would be appreciated, that's all I want out of this. That, and to see you guys having a good time while Jim makes a buck.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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or... not so hardened, just dry.
LOL!!!
I got a bunch of vids. I'm going to try and put something together with music of Mucci on the 2nd pitch of PreMuditated.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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couch, email me so I remember to do it, I'll take a measurement tonight.
Btw, that hammer frigging is the best funkness hammer EVAR!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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hamump
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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This thread reminds me of the surf movie Singlefin Yellow.
Singlefin Yellow
You could make a movie of Jim's hammer. But what would the title be?
PinHammer Jim's.
Bridwell's Hammer.
Tales of the Speechless Hammer.
So what ever happened to the hammer? Did it get sold? Is it in the Yos museum? Is it still out there banging around? This thread had potential, but it seems to have died on the vine.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2013 - 06:05pm PT
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Doug Robinson told me this whammer was a prototype
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2013 - 06:14pm PT
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Mike still has it as far as I know. Length was about 16-17"? The head carried a lot of weight.
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The Call Of K2 Lou
climber
Squamish
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Thanks for bringing this thread up from the mine, Munge. Holding that hammer's like putting your own mitts in the handprints at Grauman's Chinese Theatre.
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johntp
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
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bajaandy-
yeah, I was a bit bummed out this never got legs.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2013 - 03:25am PT
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If anyone wants to take it to the stone, contact Mike. The offer stands.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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Little jobs, big jobs, nutty jobs. Whammer time!
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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This reminds me of the Red Couch Project and the companion book that came out. Good stuff.
Thanks for that Cosmic. Fun image of JB. Plays right into the mystical powers theme he always had. Loved it too bitd.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
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when i see the stream
of words connected as such,
"JIM BRIDWELL'S HAMMER,"
i envision a selectively passive passage,
where's one's understanding does not fit into the collective logic.
so what does the wielder of jim's retired hammer do?
she explosively expresses, until the collective logic
accepts unwillingly, her input.
mucci?
lars?
anyone?
munge?
by and by the mountain accepts us as jockeys.
though not always gracefully are we welcomed.
sometimes we need to swing with extra verve.
bridwell invented a new verve.
i could never wear jim's briefs.
i'd definitely fall out of their side,
and go winging uncontrolled into an
oblivion that i was not equipped for.
what i learned from bridwell?
when reality wont accept me,
i just keep shouving harder.
soon, yields occur.
thresholds explode.
dynamite's envious.
and tomorrow is now pregnant,
as the semen of today's tragedy
marinates the egg of yesterday's hope.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
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Just a bump and then I'll let it go.
This was one of his experiments from what I know. Maybe Todd, Jim or others could weigh in.
I'd love to to see this back on a wall.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Ivan Greene wants a swing..
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photonez
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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Hammer is coming my way. First thing I plan to smash with that thing is my thumb. Maybe I can pass it along to someone in the Shuteye crew this summer.
John, Todd - I'll be getting the Paypal donation through shortly.
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