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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 10, 2009 - 04:25pm PT
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Is he the Waggoner I climbed with? The age, name spelling, and locale, are all about right. Condolences and best of vibes to his family and friends.
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breechman
Trad climber
Santiago
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Oct 10, 2009 - 07:47pm PT
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Yes, unfortunately is Dave. I worked hard with him and I`ll miss forever.
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paganmonkeyboy
climber
mars...it's near nevada...
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Oct 10, 2009 - 08:27pm PT
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My condolences to the family and friends.
-Tom
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 10, 2009 - 08:53pm PT
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my thoughts are with his friends and family
he made a great contribution to climbing with his innovative hardware
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Redwreck
Social climber
Echo Parque, Los Angeles, CA
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Oct 10, 2009 - 08:56pm PT
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RIP.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Oct 11, 2009 - 12:26am PT
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My condolences to his family and friends.
So young. . .
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 11, 2009 - 01:59am PT
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hey there all, say, i did not of him, but i will learn, and read the link...
god bless and sincere condolences to the family and friends of david...
prayes to help you through this hard time...
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*Norwegian explorer Ivar Erik Tollefson, who led an expedition in Antarctica in 1994, and wrote a book about it, wrote to David: “We find your camming devices to be the best in the world.”
a very wonderful tribute, for leaving something very special behind...
i am glad i got to learn of him...
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Oct 11, 2009 - 02:18am PT
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whoa
made gear that made it possible
made gear that made marginal placements good placements. invaluable.
best to the friends and family at this tough time
M
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Fletcher
Trad climber
Shivasana
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Oct 11, 2009 - 02:59am PT
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I'm so sorry to hear of David's passing. My condolences to all he touched.
Eric
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Dirka
Trad climber
SF
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Oct 11, 2009 - 03:11am PT
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Sorry to hear this. He made a real contribution to the sport.
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Iron Mtn.
Trad climber
Corona, Ca.
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Oct 11, 2009 - 03:25am PT
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Wow, sucks big time...
RIP
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Oct 11, 2009 - 03:49am PT
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I never got to meet him, but I certianly met his creations. My condolences to his family and friends.
John
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Oct 11, 2009 - 11:38am PT
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I've been using his gear all week where nothing else would work, up on the upper Town Wall at Index. He knew what wall climbing needed and made it happen. Thank you David and rest in peace.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Oct 11, 2009 - 11:45am PT
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I didn't know him, but my condolences to his family and friends. Jeez, I am only 53, it is an age much too young to die. Let's raise a glass to his spirit.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Oct 11, 2009 - 11:50am PT
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I toast his inventiveness and loyalty of those who personally knew him. To be able to start and grow a business isn't an easy thing. As I'm 55 next month, I can only add that it annoys the hell out of me that the pussies don't publish the cause of death any more.
Bon voyage Dave, see you on the other side soon...
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Prod
Trad climber
Dodge Sprinter Dreaming
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Oct 11, 2009 - 11:59am PT
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Sad news.
Prod.
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roy
Social climber
New Zealand -> Santa Barbara
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Oct 11, 2009 - 12:48pm PT
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This is sad news. My condolences to his wife and family
Roy
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Jordan Ramey
Big Wall climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2009 - 04:53pm PT
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So sad to hear. I spoke with Dave a couple times and he always seemed like a standup guy. Condolences to his friends and family.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Oct 11, 2009 - 06:30pm PT
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How sad, and at such a young age. Condolences to family and friends in this diffcult time.
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T Moses
Big Wall climber
Paso Robles
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Oct 11, 2009 - 08:15pm PT
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I'm sorry that he is gone. Too soon. I would have liked to see him regain the consumer confidence he deserved. Truly an innovator in our sport. I plugged aliens all saturday at Sespe Gorge. Praised 'em while I was doing it.
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Erik Sloan
climber
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Oct 11, 2009 - 09:57pm PT
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God Bless Dave--move toward the brightest light brother!
Wow! Dave was such an amazing soul.
Dave did more for the preservation of climbs and cilffs in Yosemite than anyone since the first nut makers.
many cheers Dave
love e
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sunnyside
Big Wall climber
boulder
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Oct 13, 2009 - 09:41pm PT
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Thanks, again for those first prototypes (Dave of CCH), you gave me around 1987. his spirit and legacy lives on in the pushing of the envelope of traditional climbing today thanks to his great "Alien" camming invention. I still use those 1st prototypes today although the new versions are way more advanced. At the time the "Alien" was quite the quantum leap in crack and face climbing protection, allowing a somewhat more efficent protection device for those thin spots where nothing else would work or you'd pump out if trying to diddle in a small wire. At that time it was called the Cable Pro, but after receiving a set of them and trying them out on some routes that were otherwise protection-less or runout, (the cams design offered placcements that were otherwise to off for other forms of natural gear), we started to call them "Alien Sex Toys", hence, they started to be referred to as "Aliens".
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sunnyside
Big Wall climber
boulder
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Oct 13, 2009 - 09:42pm PT
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France.
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Oct 14, 2009 - 02:59am PT
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Unfortunately, I never did meet David Waggoner but I would truly have loved to do so. Had I been fortunate enough to visit the USA, he would have been one of the very first characters that I would have contacted.
David really shared my passion for the history of climbing equipment, and would often add a good supply of CCH treasures to the Nuts Museum.
My deepest sympathy and most sincere condolences to David's family and friends. I will trully miss him.
Stephane
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breechman
Trad climber
Santiago
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Oct 14, 2009 - 12:35pm PT
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Dave left this side at only 53, too early for all. We worked together on improving his invent (Alien) and make it into mass production. I will miss him profoundly as he was a real nature lover and showed me the craft of making quality climbing gear.
Nos harás mucha falta amigo en nuestras vidas.
J. P Yanez.
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franky
climber
Davis, CA
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Oct 14, 2009 - 12:37pm PT
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bummer, hope he had a good 53 years.
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msiddens
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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Oct 14, 2009 - 01:50pm PT
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Bummer indeed and condolences to his family and friends. My rack never leaves the home without some of his cams.
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Misha
Trad climber
Woodside, CA
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Oct 14, 2009 - 02:18pm PT
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RIP, Dave. Thank you for your tremendous contributions to the climbing community!
I guess I have to ask the question that is on many minds:
What does this mean to the future of CCH? Will the production and improvements of Aliens continue?
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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Oct 21, 2009 - 05:03pm PT
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Hi all,
thank you very much for this forum!!!
This is a real support for me!!!
Best regards, Nadia.
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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Oct 21, 2009 - 05:13pm PT
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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Oct 21, 2009 - 05:22pm PT
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Oct 21, 2009 - 05:43pm PT
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Condolences to freinds and family.
So we headed up mescalito with no aliens. The party before us had bailed via an epic self resuce, at night, from the 15th pitch after one of the guys broke his leg. They left gear at a couple of spots to get back across traverses and the like. This gear included aliens. I don't think we could have gotten up the dang thing had we not run across the aliens. I know it would have taken longer and probably with more hammering. I was sold. We mailed the guys their gear and I was sorry to see those aliens go.
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Ray Olson
Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
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Oct 21, 2009 - 05:48pm PT
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I gotta admit, when I first saw aliens I was just not that impressed but,
they changed, they evolved a lot.
when I finally got a triple set of the current version ('98)
it was sort of a revelation.
killer cams, for sure.
and,
CCH stayed true to their niche,
with hybrids.
San Diego climbing is a lot about
thin cracks, often short, steep and kinda hard.
aliens opened up new ground for us and,
IMO, were by far the best designed cams in those sizes.
so,
my most sincere heart felt condolances to all those
who knew and worked with Mr. Waggoner.
I am very sorry to hear of his passing.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Nadia,
Love the pic.
Stick around. The "supertaco" campfire is a good place to hang out and rejuvenate.
I just recently redpointed a new route. Thin corner. It took an absolutely perfect blue alien to protect the move up into slabby face. Actually, I used an old yellow just below that section too. hah!
love those aliens. I've got the hybrids too. They are the ideal wall cam for Yosemite.
Dave's memory lives in his design and in the production of CCH cams. I truly hope that CCH continues to carry on with Dave's design and work. (ok, maybe get out for some climbing too. ;) )
Best to you,
Munge E. Climber
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Just found this.
I'll think of Dave whenever I plug an alien into a spot where nothing else fits. I always get a feeling of relief and gratefulness everytime that happens and it happens a lot on walls.
Dave always hooked me up. Thanks Bro
Peace
Karl
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Esparza
Trad climber
Westminster, CA
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RIP amigo. Thanks for making the gear which allows me to scale mountains. Mike
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Esparza
Trad climber
Westminster, CA
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Does anyone know if CCH will continue and make cams? The hybrids are a godsend...
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breechman
Trad climber
Vegas
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Hope they will be continue being made off. Are superb protection where nothing else fits.
***Yep, website is down since last friday. Hope it doesn´t means CCH is over.
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dt
Mountain climber
Mammoth Lakes
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photos provided by a mutual friend. sorry we never met Dave. I already miss the regular call begging for more Aliens.
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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Our web site is not down. There are just some technical problems.
We planning to post info about Dave soon.
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Ottawa Doug
Social climber
Ottawa, Canada
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Condolences to family and friends
The offsets were one of the greatest inventions of all time for big wall climbing. Let's all hope the magic continues.
peace
doug
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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YAY!! glad the site isn't down perma-like.
sounds promising Nadia
hope to hear good news,
M
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breechman
Trad climber
Vegas
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Website is online now. Hope the same with the stock of cams soon!
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Ray Olson
Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
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hope CCH does really well
still so sorry about Dave,
we spoke on the phone only
once - I respect his work
and his business model a lot.
Ray
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Nadia- My condolences as you and your family move forward. As a champion of rock preservation in the world of climbers, thank you for offering such a splendid set of tools for clean climbing. When I called to order a right and left handed set of offsets, you and your husband were happy to accomodate my needs as a small family business. I really appreciated that level of service and wish you all the best at CCH!
Sincerely yours, Steve Grossman
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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This is what I was busy with for last couple weeks...
This Head stone was set up at November 4th, 2009 in Greeley, Colorado.
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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But, ...here is my Dave:Do not stand at my grave & weep,
I am not there, I do not sleep.
I am in a thousand winds that blow,
I am the softly falling snow.
I am the gentle showers of rain.
I am the fields of ripening grain.
I am in the morning hush,
I am in the graceful rush
Of beautiful birds in circling flight,
I am the star shine of the night.
I am in the flowers that bloom,
I am in a quiet room.
I am in the birds that sing,
I am in each lovely thing.
Do not stand at my grave & cry,
I am not there.
I did not die.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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worthy cause, that stone.
not having met Dave, it's good to put a name to his face, thx for that.
best,
M
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WBraun
climber
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Nadia
A long time ago when Dave first made these he gave me a couple to use and try. No strings attached. I thought what a nice man to give something like this to an insignificant ant like me.
I went to the Rostrum one day and had them on the rack and went to place one for the first time. The original stem was very flexible back then and flexed all over the place as I was trying to insert the unit into the crack.
I never placed it, and wanted to huck the thing off into the forest below. I put it back on the rack and just kept going. Later I studied this alien and saw a wonderful piece of engineering and workmanship which later went on to to become a masterpiece despite some of the problems which came up in the recent past.
So all glories to the the real engineer who worked hard at making something to live by.
I hope these aliens remain successful long into the future.
Thanks again, Werner
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rick d
climber
ol pueblo, az
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hail the inventor of the Seismo as well- another great wide tool that saw too little use.
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JP.Franklin
Trad climber
Santiago-CHILE
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We worked together close to three years. Dave stood up as a real nature conservationist, a brilliant machinist and welder. His clear way of designing and manufacture the Alien cams will remain forever in the big rocky outdoors as well as in the rock climbing history.
Your friend, Juan P.
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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Nov 19, 2009 - 06:28pm PT
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Thank you!!! Thank you very much!!!!
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Llama
Big Wall climber
The bubble that is Irvine, CA
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Nov 24, 2009 - 04:50pm PT
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Very sorry to hear about Dave's passing, Nadia. I've never met him but I certainly have placed his Aliens 1000's of times! What a great contribution to the climbing community! His gear has literally saved my life countless times. I wish I could have shook his hand or bought him a beer.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Mare Infinitum
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Nov 24, 2009 - 05:12pm PT
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Nadia, we'll miss your Dave.
I never met the Man, but the gear he made helped make some wall exploits we had much more enjoyable. I'll be thinkin' of him, next time I plug in an alien. Always loved them.
Our community has really shrunken this year. All the more reason to value those still among us, & honor those we've lost.
A salute to you, Dave W. And thanks.
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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Nov 25, 2009 - 07:22pm PT
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Thank you!!!
I miss my Dave.... I am still waiting for him.
But I realize that he is not going to come back....
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Gene
Social climber
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Nov 25, 2009 - 07:55pm PT
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Nadia,
In spite of your loss, please accept my wishes for a happy Thanksgiving in memory of the best you had with David.
Best,
gene
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Peenemunde
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Nov 25, 2009 - 09:54pm PT
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Very Sad News. To young.
Juan
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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Dec 11, 2009 - 01:50pm PT
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PLEASE, REMEMBER HIM...
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Dec 11, 2009 - 02:04pm PT
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Everytime we place a piece of gear, especially those offset Aliens!
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JP.Franklin
Trad climber
Santiago-CHILE
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Dec 11, 2009 - 02:08pm PT
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Yeah, the same tough and smart guy I met once, thanks Dave, JP.
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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Dec 13, 2009 - 01:52pm PT
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Attention CCH's customers and friends!!!!
Colorado Custom Hardware now has new domain name:
http://www.aliencamsbycch.net
CCH is still in the business!!!
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Dec 13, 2009 - 02:08pm PT
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Nadia, like most of us here: I think of Dave often when I'm musing on or looking at my Aliens. I'm sure he's still missed by those who loved him, and I wish you the best of luck with the business moving forward.
You need to finish up the web site move, as the links, like if you click on "products" say, doesn't lead you to products. Click it and you'll see what I mean.
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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Dec 14, 2009 - 05:21pm PT
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Thank you!
Thank you very much for support of CCH.
Some body took our domain name, and this was a reason why we got new domain name now. I am working now to restore our web-site.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Top of the 5.2-5.12 Boulder
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Dec 14, 2009 - 05:44pm PT
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Cool! His birthday is the day before mine.
Can't forget that. I'll toast to him then, as well.
Cheers!
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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Dec 28, 2009 - 06:11pm PT
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**Dear CCH's customers!!!!
Please pay attention, that now CCH has new web-site:
http://www.aliencamsbycch.net
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(old one was: www.aliencamsbycch.com)
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Nadia Waggoner
Boulder climber
Laramie, wyoming
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Jan 28, 2010 - 05:15pm PT
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Hello!
Just wanted to let our customers and friends know, that we got our domain name back!!!! www.aliencamsbycch.com
Thank you very much to our friends!!!!!
Thank you very much to people who love Dave's Aliens!!!
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