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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 6, 2009 - 12:28pm PT
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With all the climbing tribe emergencies we've had these last few months, a few of us threw around the idea of a slush fund that people could contribute to when they had the resources, rather than only when the emergency hits.
Only now we have had another major blow without time for that to develop.
*It seems that we have a young man of our clan who is going to need some support, love and otherwise.
*Is an immediate fund startup for Tyrus necessary?
*We can show our love of John's position amongst us even if we can't send Tyrus to college.
*Are John's folks alive and would the money be appropriate going through them?
*I would nominate someone like Jello to collect and administer the fund, but only if he was willing.
*There may be more appropriate money minded people among us, (You know who you are.)to help work this thing over.
*I'm a bit of a numbskull about money, but I would help in a way that I could.
*I'm a bit broke, but I can come up with a check for this for sure. I've got $50 or $100 to open the door.
I hope I'm not sticking my foot in my mouth somehow. I apologize if I am. If I'm out of line, I will gladly nuke this thread.
With that, let the discussion begin.
Peace to you all,
Bruce
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Seems like a good idea to me. I'm in.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Bruce those are great ideas. You continue to show the quality of your character. You are a good man. Times have been tight of late but I will donate everything I can.
Let's make this happen!
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Grant Meisenholder
Trad climber
CA
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I was thinking the same thing. Seems like the best way the community at large can support without being intrusive. There should be an account which we can transfer funds to by wire would be my suggestion. Or maybe PayPal?...
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Double D
climber
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I'm in. Perhaps someone with some legal abilities could properly set up a fund.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2009 - 01:15pm PT
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I think you're right Dave, but at least this is something we can DO, rather than just wringing our hands.
It is heartwarming to see the great people and "famous" of the climbing world and Supertopo stepping into all those wonderful threads already. Like you....
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Neil Young land
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I'm in
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2009 - 01:17pm PT
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I was so hoping that the "not so evil one" would chime in here.
He's knowledgable about such things and not as evil as he wants us to believe!
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Let me know how I can help.
John
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Bruce
You hippies never cease to amaze me. Thank you for
thinking this. Though not in a position to help as
much as I'd like, let me know how to and I will.
Thanks again.
SteveW
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micronut
Trad climber
fresno, ca
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The money would be great, but we might also be able to help out with some other intangibles, like guys showing up for Tyrus for lunch, hang out time etc. It would mean a ton if a couple guys (strangers at first even) took this on and kept going after the kid, just showing up and being present. He's gonna need it for years to come. I wish I lived closer. I just don't want a kid like this to deal with it alone after the first few weeks of "help" wear off. These things have a tendency to become distant after a couple months. Some sort of organized effort by those who live close would be super cool. One man can make a difference for the long haul. Tyrus is at a fork in the road and I think a good man or two can help him not walk alone.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Good Ideas, I'll do whatever I can to help. Just email me. lrl
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jrhea
Trad climber
mammoth lakes, ca
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I saw John around the area, but only met him once about a year ago. I was recovering from back surgery and feeling sorry for myself out at the crag. John gave me an amazing pep talk citing his own recent recovery and really got me motivated again. I live in Mammoth and dont know tyrus, but would love to help. I work as a ski patroller at mammoth mountain so maybe I could help with some of the winter activites.
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Jobee
Social climber
El Portal
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Survival,
Got to love you brother.
Your heart; huge.
Count me in.
Big love coming your way.
Jobee
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climber
A deep dive in the shallows of life..
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I would love to help, Bruce.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Passing the hat is great, and I don't put it down, but what is really needed is a well structured fund that can solicit tax deductible contributions from deep pockets.
I spoke with Jello last night after getting the news and know that he feels for Tyrus, but Jeff has his hands full as is so, while I'm sure he appreciates the nod, perhaps we need to look elsewhere.
Hey Fatty, whats up??????
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Phil Bard
Trad climber
Lake Oswego, OR
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I have as yet many details to work out, and am still dealing my own sense of loss, but I have decided that one way I can help Tyrus is to again offer up some images I took of John soloing as limited edition prints. We succeeded in raising over $5500 for John back during the aftermath of his accident with this idea, and it seemed like a win/win for all involved, you get a print for your contribution and all the money goes to the cause. It would be a different set of images, some published before and some perhaps not, offered again as 11x14's in editions of 25 going for $75 plus shipping.
I'll post up when I have further information and a webpage. This is something I can handle through my business, so it wouldn't be necessary for whoever was managing a fund for Tyrus be responsible for.
Phil Bard
Cirrus Digital Imaging
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
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Phil,
Im in. Please PM me with details and image choices.
Jay Renneberg
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Bruce, of course we need to do this, and I'm incredibly honored that you would nominate me to manage the effort. Unfortunately, of necessity I'm in the process of relinquishing almost all responsibilities - this just isn't something I can take on and do properly. But I will help as much as I'm able.
Fatrad's and Ken's relief fund for climbers is a good model to follow in the long run and is worthy of our support, too. But in honor of John and because Tyrus is young, I think it's good to move now to get donations flowing for his own fund, and then work on a longer-range strategy to grow the fund even while Tyrus gets help in the moment. It's a real challenge.
Ken, Fatrad, could you guys set up a separate fund for Tyrus, similar to the general fund you're working on now?
We need a place/person to send donations to right away.
-Jeff
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BluntMan
Gym climber
Wild Omar, CA
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Count me in.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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I have a lot of images of John in my climbing gallery, which is here
http://www.printroom.com/ViewGallery.asp?userid=karlb&gallery_id=74899
I'm adding some portraits of John. They are uploading now as I type.
My retail photo business model lately has been selling the prints for cost and having folks donate the "profit" portion on a sliding scale via paypal. (I have guidelines on my site about what my usual cut used to be before this)
In any case, I encourage anyone buying photos of John to donate the profit portion to his memorial fund when an appropriate account is established.
May everyone make it through this in the best way possible. I'd say John has already sent and clipped the chains, but instead he's soloed right past them to the true summit
Peace
Karl
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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John's father and brother are on their way and I know Tyrus's Mom is also on her way for her son. Tyrus needs the support of John's family right now, as well as all of us. spoke with him(Tyrus) yesterday, understandably shocked, but he IS so strong and is in great hands as I write this. It's a great idea that we come together for Tyrus, and maybe the family should be involved in WHATEVER decision we, as a community, for his benefit. I don't know what the situation is yet, too early, but we should consider keeping them involved and having a BIG word in this matter. We don't know their situation and should respect their wishes and needs. Thanks and....
Peace
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looking sketchy there...
Social climber
Latitute 33
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Wise words Ron. Perhaps when there is a better idea of John's family's plans, the climbing community can help Tyrus (financially and otherwise). If there is anything I can do to help, email me.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2009 - 04:01pm PT
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Thanks to everyone who has posted so far.
I really have no idea where to go with this.
Jello and Ron have good points.
I got a nice email from John's brother Dan, who said how much he and the rest of the family appreciate the support and the outpouring of affection.
I will email him and give him a link to check the thread and let them know that the tribe wants their input. Maybe if the family administers the fund, it will cut out a middle man.
I certainly want to recognize the effort that Fattrad and Ken have made already and have them included as fully as they are willing. Maybe just put it in the hands of these guys and the Bachars?
I'm sure the family will understand that we are trying to honor John and provide some support to Tyrus.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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The priority for now has to be helping John's family, especially Tyrus, in whatever way is needed. Especially their human and emotional needs, but possibly also with financial and legal matters. In the short term, seeing that Tyrus is looked after, and that any immediate needs are attended to. In the longer term, as someone mentioned, John's friends need to commit to being there for Tyrus. No one can take John's place for Tyrus, but we can all help as he grows.
It will party depend on what state John's business, legal and financial affairs were left in, whether he had a will and executor, insurance, and so on. Those things will need to get sorted out sooner rather than later, and those with financial or legal skills (Jeff, Randy, Rick?) may be able to help with that - it's up to the family.
Perhaps we can also help with a fund for Tyrus, for the short or long term or both. I'd be happy to contribute to it, once we know what the needs are.
All we can do for now is offer to help, and make sure the family knows we're ready to help.
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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i think a fund set up for Tyrus is key. and i'll help in anyway i can and could get some fund raising events going in my neck of the woods.
To me the deep pockets should come from the industry. We/they/us owe that much and more to do for Tyrus what John did for climbing...
i still can't believe this is real and am CRUSHED but will do what i can to help his son feel the love that we all have for JB.
All that i am, all that i have climbed is a direct result of JB letting me tag along as the young punk that i was and sometimes still am! I will miss him more than he will ever know.,,,
ks
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klinefelter
Boulder climber
Bishop, CA
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If you need a web site for the fund, you got it. I've set up Paypal donation pages for Vern C. and others, and I'm willing to donate whatever assistance that's needed in this area.
Tom K.
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Anything for Tyrus.
AF
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Long term and immediate needs can be two separate things. When a person passes away, often their loved ones have trouble even accessing funds for basic needs. That's one reason people help out by putting what they can in envelopes and depositing near the condolences registry at wakes and memorial services.
Since our community is far flung, to all corners of the world, a similar thing could be done via PayPal, as a Tacoan above posted.
I'm glad to read that Tyrus' family is on the way to him, hoping already there. It must be so hard for him right now. Of course the family has so much to deal with, but as people have said, once the family has time to deal with this topic and lets their feelings be known, then things can go forward.
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noshoesnoshirt
climber
I don't even know any more
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broke as a joke but I'll do what I can
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Eiger
Mountain climber
Zurich, Switzerland
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Help from Switzerland as well when it's all been decided on and set-up.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 9, 2009 - 11:56am PT
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Wow Eiger!! Help from Switzerland, that is awesome.
Not sure what shape this will take just yet. I'm sure that the family will be just dealing with the big shock for awhile, but eventually it will take a form of some kind.
Check back, or I will try to send out email to everyone that has offered help so far. A website with a paypal attachment can be posted on all kinds of climbers websites!
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Conrad
climber
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Greetings,
The outdoor retailer trade show starts on the 21st of July in SLC. Acopa had a booth and this is where many of us here would get a chance to reconnect with John.
Although it is short notice, it might be nice to have a tribute to John. Either the Industry Party on the 21st (not quite John) or better yet the Bouldering Championship atop the Shilo Inn on Tuesday the 21st. If any of us has a connection to the organizers it might be nice give props to a man whose influence ties back to training and bouldering.
In years past during the trade show JB and Steve West would host a party a the now extinct Zephyr Lounge, the closest SLC had to a blues bar. John would get up on the stage with his sax, fit right in with the band and have a beaming ear to ear smile. Guess he made the most selling shoes.
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After Alex Lowe was killed in an avalanche yen years ago the community of climbers stepped up to help with the education of his three sons. As their dad (Alex is "father" & I'm "dad") and husband to his widow Jenni, the support for the children is a reflection of how close our tribe is. To this day we get visitors who knew and climbed with Alex. These moments to reconnect with the kids and Alex's spirit are special. Tyrus - we'll be there for you in the coming years.
Phil - huge thanks for the image offer. Count me in.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Hey Conrad,
I like the Shiloh idea. Hope it works out.
The parties at the Zephyr were great (and I scored the door prize once too!). Sad that the place is gone, but as with John, the good memories live on.
(not gonna ask about that "wife to his widow" quote; hope it was just a mis-speak, but it does bring to mind Ron White's strap-on joke.
But I thought YOU were the tool user,..)
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Conrad
climber
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Thanks Ron for the proofreading. I was thinking of her as my wife.
See you next week?
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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It was always fun to visit with John, Steve, Michael, Dario, Anastasia and others at the Acopa booth during OR. During happy hour, I sometimes 'borrowed' beer from the big boys' booths, and snuck it over to the guys at Acopa - they seemed thirsty.
I wasn't planning to be at the OR this year, but if there's a memorial for John planned, I'd try to attend. Particularly if it was soon before or after any memorial in Mammoth, and I could get to both. Hopefully someone could get me into OR, as I no longer have an active role in the Access Society here.
Perhaps there will be more information about a memorial, a memorial fund for Tyrus, and an event at OR fairly soon. Several climbing manufacturers are based in or near SLC, and perhaps could talk with the organizers about this.
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dfrost7
Social climber
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Though such a fund be modest or enough for college, the love will be meaningful to Tyrus, for sure.
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burp
Trad climber
Salt Lake City
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Phil --
I'd been waiting until the subject of your incredible photos was brought up ... . I picked one up from the last offering and it hangs proudly in my living room.
It seems like you have one of the most extensive and amazing collection of pics of John around. Someday in the future, a high quality print book with the collection of your photos of John would be amazing. Some collaboration with other photographers could fill it out even more.
The only source most of us have for so many cool photos are from old magazine clippings (my collection only goes back to 1986), old adverts, a poster or two, and the internet (not always the best quality). Baba has some pretty cool "newer" pics to add, but you've got a treasure trove of some amazing stuff.
Anyway ... just a thought.
burp
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darlah
climber
Bishop, CA
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Count me in on a donation for Tyrus. Let me know how.
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apogee
climber
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Jul 10, 2009 - 02:15am PT
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Bump for JB
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Shelley Mayfield
climber
Mammoth Lakes
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Jul 10, 2009 - 03:02am PT
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I'm in, I would really like to help Tyrus out in anyway, he was a student of mine when he was a 4th grader and deserves this help, it will give him more choices for what he wants to do, he is such a great kid who works very hard in what he does.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 10, 2009 - 03:07am PT
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hey there dear tyrus... say, i am very sorry that i am not able to help you right now... but say...i have a neat idea, and i hope to bring it to pass someday...
may the good lord bless you, and help you keep heading into right-fine manhood---that is the best way to honor one's pa...
say, when you know folks are in your corner, too---it sure fills the heart with the desire to keep pressing on, too...
love and god bless...
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captain chaos
climber
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Jul 10, 2009 - 04:19am PT
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Count me in, I'll do what ever I can to help...
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jimthomsen
Social climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Jul 10, 2009 - 04:36am PT
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It's hard to believe that I knew John for more than 30 years. It's harder to believe that he's gone.
Please count me in on a donation for Tyrus. Let me know how.
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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Jul 10, 2009 - 07:04am PT
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post bump to a great man, and to get rid of Onyx the A-hole.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2009 - 10:21am PT
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"If you need a web site for the fund, you got it. I've set up Paypal donation pages for Vern C. and others, and I'm willing to donate whatever assistance that's needed in this area."
Tom K.
It looks like Tom's offer is the best so far.
A web page with a couple of really great shots of John (hard to pick!), some highlights from the timeline thread, and some reference to Tyrus's future needs would be awesome it seems to me. A link to this page could be kind of permanently posted here on Supertopo. We could also post that link on other climbing sites, even in other countries, like http://www.ukclimbing.com/
I already posted a suggestion over there that some of those folks post over here, and I've seen a few new euro posts in the last couple days.
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Iron Mtn.
Trad climber
Corona
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Jul 10, 2009 - 10:14pm PT
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I would like to donate, please post the official paypal address when it happens.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 11, 2009 - 12:17am PT
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So what is happening with this ? I agree with Ron G. and R. Vogel. This should be a well thought out plan, started now....pro should be a trust fund with an administrator(s). I too would be glad to help. Lookin' Sketchy and Ron G. has anyone emailed you ? Lynne
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dfrost7
Social climber
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Jul 11, 2009 - 12:56am PT
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Bumping this so it's connected with TB's thread.
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dfrost7
Social climber
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Jul 11, 2009 - 01:31am PT
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It would be great to have a sale, maybe ebay, something set up here. Would love to help.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 11, 2009 - 01:31am PT
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Thanks Ron, understand and feel your pain and loss. So much hurt, pain and sorrow swirling around now. Just didn't want this to fade. I'll wait and when the time is right I'll be glad to help.
Lynne
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jul 11, 2009 - 02:10am PT
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thanks Lynne, I deleted my post 'cause I just can't process much right now, total confusion, hope you don't mind, but I had this "feeling" yo got the message. You feel free to pass it on, but I just don't know if what I'm saying is good. Had a GREAT talk with John Jr. tonight, that helped me a lot. I know you understand what I'm saying.
Peace
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 11, 2009 - 02:28am PT
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I do Ron and you made perfect sense. Peace to you Friend who comforted me and has continued to do so in my time of huge hurt and sorrow.
Really believe John is with Dan Boy up in the vast, invisible, but real world of heaven ....I just know. The acute pain of loss here is hell, but then we'll be with them when our numbered days count down to 0=Heaven. Hope this makes sense to you friend and hope Kelly gave you my message. As jb would say and would want us to say.....cheers, lynne
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Phil Bard
Trad climber
Lake Oswego, OR
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Jul 11, 2009 - 02:50am PT
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Burp,
Thanks for your ideas, I'm awaiting some developments from the family before I offer anything up in the way of prints, but I'm very concerned for Tyrus and want to help him. And it's one way his dad can still provide for his son. I will let everyone know when this happens.
Insofar as a collection of photos in book form, I agree there should be something. So far just dealing with John's loss and running a business is taking every effort, but it is something I'm reflecting on. I'm gratified there is interest, and I know John certainly would be.
Phil
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 11, 2009 - 03:29am PT
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Hi Phil Bard, talked with jb about several different books he might produce. He had book projects on his to do list. JB indicated he respected Paola's writing skills and she was involved in some of his writing projects. Lots to think about and taking the time pro will be key. Hope to meet you someday ....respectfully, lynne
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Phil Bard
Trad climber
Lake Oswego, OR
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Jul 11, 2009 - 02:11pm PT
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We will probably cross paths fairly soon, Lynne.
Phil
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conifer
climber
oz
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Jul 12, 2009 - 07:36pm PT
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Please count me in on any memorial fund for Tyrus.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 12, 2009 - 09:19pm PT
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I'm in, let me know when it's set up.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 13, 2009 - 01:25am PT
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Trust me ekaterinafriendofmany we will keep it alive. lynne
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bootysatva
Trad climber
Idylwild Ca
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Jul 13, 2009 - 07:55pm PT
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I am willing to donate 100 (or more if they can be used to help) cd's I have recorded of classical guitar music if a fund raiser or some event is in the works I have 2 cd.s both are acoustic classical guitar and on the mellow side. I am also willing to perform if a fund raiser should arise. hopefully I will be available and not gigging or guiding. Some of the music can be heard at ernesto@ernestoale.com Respectfully EA
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jul 15, 2009 - 03:44pm PT
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Confirmed!!!! It is a done deal, PLEASE start contributing. I'll see that it gets covered here at ST.
Peace
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jul 15, 2009 - 03:46pm PT
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fattrad, it's legit.
Peace
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apogee
climber
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Jul 15, 2009 - 03:47pm PT
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Did Jim Moss have anything to do with setting up the Trust, or did he simply announce it on SNEWS?
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John Vawter
Social climber
San Diego
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Jul 15, 2009 - 03:58pm PT
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Living trust is a generic term for any trust set up for someone during their lifetime. Doesn't have to be for tax reasons. Tyrus is the beneficiary. Someone else is setting it up, the trustor. And someone has to administer it, the trustee.
In those marital trusts the trustors and trustees are the same, the married couple. They control their own assets during their lifetime. Here Tyrus needs someone to manage the money for him, at least until he is an adult.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jul 15, 2009 - 04:01pm PT
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Cool deal!
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LongAgo
Trad climber
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Jul 15, 2009 - 04:40pm PT
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On another thread or two, I posted this or a version of it, and now I see it belongs here:
Honoring John's Memory
"... I have no words for the death of John, only immense sadness and, now, concern for his son especially and hope there will be a fund or other mechanism so we who stood in awe can take some small positive action in line with our admiration for John, though any such action will hardly stand against the dismay and grief ... any word on whether his family and/or friends are setting up a fund in memory of John for either his son or for works or services John would want supported, or perhaps for a memorial plaque or book or something in his honor?"
OK, so now I see there is a trust fund established presumably by family and attorney. I'm in right now but wonder about longer term. Sure would be good to hear directly from a family member to announce the fund, say a bit about the particulars to give maximum exposure, confidence and understanding to contributors. Maybe this will be coming as we stay tuned. Then there are later questions about some representation of John in an appropriate place, plaque or otherwise, and of course an honorary book, all for later I presume.
Tom Higgins
LongAgo
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jul 15, 2009 - 04:47pm PT
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Good, sensible words, Tom. It's good to see you back,
unfortuately for this reason though.
Please don't stay away so long.
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JHMoss
Mountain climber
Golden
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Jul 15, 2009 - 05:15pm PT
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I'm the attorney setting up the Tyrus Bachar Trust and I am going to try and answer some questions that are popping up on this list. I can't get all of them because some I don't know the answers.
The Trust will have four trustees. The trustees have been asked and agreed to serve as the trustees. Those are Robin Thompson, Paola Accusani, John Bachar Jr. (John's Father) and Steve West.
Any amount of money can be donated either by check, going to a Wells Fargo bank or PayPal. At the same time, at the Outdoor Retailer Trade Show we will be asking everyone in the room.
The "fund" is actually a trust that I have written. I've written over 100 of these trusts.
I'm sure, when Tyrus is ready, he would love to know more about his father and have some fun with people in the outdoors.
If you have any more questions you can email me at recreation.law@gmail.com.
Jim Moss
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klk
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cali
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Jul 15, 2009 - 05:16pm PT
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thanks for the post, jim
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JHMoss
Mountain climber
Golden
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Jul 15, 2009 - 05:24pm PT
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More answers as I work through this thread.
"Living" is mostly a term that is used to market trusts by people. The term was added before I got involved. At one point it meant it was active rather than dormant or waiting to be funded. Trusts can have many purposes: tax avoidance, long term control of money, better control of assets, etc. In this case it will be a trust to receive funds to be administered for the health, education and welfare of Tyrus.
The trust will be revocable. After a while or after the funds have diminished or been spent there is no need to keep the trust going. The trust is being set up to get Tyrus through college at present.
Donations can be mailed via Pay Pal using the email tbacharlivingtrust@gmail.com. For donations of any amount, please make checks payable to: Acopa USA/ TBLT, 2328 Jeanne Drive, Las Vegas, NV, 89108. Contributions can also be made at any Well’s Fargo Bank using the account name Tyrus Bachar Living Trust located at zip code 92626
Another thing you can help us do is spread the word about how to make a donation.
Thanks.
Jim
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climber
Nowhere in particular...and I'm going back soon...
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Jul 15, 2009 - 05:43pm PT
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Fantastic, Jim.
Thanks.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 15, 2009 - 06:04pm PT
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hey there tyrus... say, just dropped in... i think i may have already... but just a reminder:
i may not be able to give, but when i had my kids, i had tons of prayers to get us through, and we made it through the hard times... so, i have these prayers still ready to go, and they will be for your growing-up day, as well...
hugs and best wishes... and remember all these folks if you just even need a talk or a good night's share of encouragement...
:)
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Barcus
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, Ca.
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Jul 15, 2009 - 07:04pm PT
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A love "Bump" to keep this up front!
Marcus
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Jul 15, 2009 - 08:50pm PT
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Bump
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jul 15, 2009 - 09:03pm PT
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I hope it's ok to post this but I wanted folks to get this info asap
From John's Dad
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To All Who May Wish To Give Support To Tyrus Bachar:
Here are the details of the newly established trust fund for Tyrus.
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THE TYRUS BACHAR LIVING TRUST IN MEMORY OF HIS LOVING FATHER,
JOHN M. BACHAR III,
John's close freinds and family wish to insure the health,education and well being of Tyrus Bachar.
For donations of any amount, please make checks payble to:
The Tyrus Bachar Living Trust
Address:
Acopa USA/ TBLT
2328 Jeanne Drive
Las Vegas, Nv, 89108
Or
Via Pay Pal
Email: tbacharlivingtrust@gmail.com
This email is registered with Pay Pal tostart accepting donations.
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Respectfully,
John M. Bachar, Jr.
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LongAgo
Trad climber
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Jul 15, 2009 - 09:57pm PT
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Karl:
Thanks for a direct appeal and purpose statement from John's dad. Exactly what's needed here. Hope to hear more from him.
JH Moss,
Of course thanks for setting up mechanics of fund. So many mundane details next to the enormity of John's death, but all important to support of Tyrus. As for spreading the word to maximize donations, hope someone with the family or one or all trust members will get notices in all relevant climbing magazines, websites, obits and the like. Speaking from a bit of experience, I know how these donations spurt at the start then dwindle without constant attention. Don't know if AAC should be approached too, but another avenue worth exploring.
SteveW:
Actually I've been blabbing away on Supertopo for some time. Just search for LongAgo to see more than you probably want to see! But, yes, I'm alive and well ... at the moment.
Tom Higgins
LongAgo
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Jul 15, 2009 - 10:58pm PT
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bump
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