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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 4, 2009 - 11:13pm PT
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Most climbers are familiar with the 1972 Chouinard Equipment catalog but Tom's 72 AAJ thoughtful survey article really develops the case for climbing clean.
First, the problem...
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OfBlinkingThings
Boulder climber
Jackosnville, Fl
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Good article. That picture of serenity crack is heartbreaking
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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I clicked on this, saw the first photo and Knew it was Serenity, how iconic is that?
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Steve
Another great posting. I hope the readers notice the amount
Jstan contributed to the article. Both were very
involved at pioneering the art of 'clean climbing,' as were
many others. But I certainly was influenced by Jstan, since
I was lucky enough to be around DC while he was working there.
Edit
Kind of goes nicely with Donini's "are the ends worth the means'
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Cherchez les fissures!
Here are all three of the usual suspects, together for the first time at the FaceLift in 2007.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Truly classic and poignant stuff there Steve!
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jstan
climber
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Nature’s way is strange indeed. Each of us carries within the power and the key to all that is desired, along with the fatal flaw that leads to nothingness. All is choice. We have an inspiring thing of great beauty, yet have to choose whether to protect it or to destroy it. All the while, knowing it is beyond our power to destroy the flaw itself. We are inseparably wedded to the flaw. To destroy the flaw is to destroy oneself. How is it the right choice is ever made?
The Company.
When the future first made itself known to me I had no choice. Dan Smiley had welcomed us for our strengths with the same good will with which he had accepted us for our weaknesses. I had a debt outstanding. Leaving that trust unearned was not an option. When I needed optimism and good sense I went to Goldstone. When I needed context and good humor I went to McCarthy. When I got too full of myself I went to Greg and Mel. When I made mistakes I got gentle correction from all sides.
For the first few months I thought the east was just floating along by itself. Marooned. Then exactly when it was most needed the piton displays in all of the stores moved from the front counter and were placed in drawers. Magically. Without a single sound. The big surfer’s hand had appeared above the table. Tom Frost and Royal Robbins had long been providing the kind of inspiration so unique to them. And Doug Robinson then gave us the formula.
We will always have choices. When discouraged we need to heed what Tolkien wrote. We were meant to have choices. Is that not reason enough to take heart?
To see how important the Company is one need only visit ST. The Company was the path that brought us here. It remains in front of us even now. Fully prepared for our journey.
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GRJ
climber
Juneau AK
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Man I love the upper pitches of serenity/sons. I've been up there half a dozen times, but I have turned around at the base because of that first pitch! It is gross scarred up and munches my toes. But I guess I have swung a hammer a few times too. Hmm, I think I either need to get stronger or smoke enough dope that I lose interest in the awesome places aid brings you!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2009 - 08:24pm PT
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Jstan, them just ain't ordinary hobbits! With a sterling example from the Brits and Scots, you guys were the exception that became the rule in the most astounding way!
You really don't understand a power or priviledge until you have to relinquish it voluntarily. The hammer was a tough habit to break! Style ultimately rests in balancing the swirling mix of power, desire and restraint.
J. Robert Oppenheimer certainly found himself in the nexus bigtime and had this to say.
"It is style which complements affirmation with limitation and with humility; it is style which makes it possible to act effectively, but not absolutely; it is style which enables us to find harmony between the pursuit of ends essential to us, and the regard for the views, the sensibilities, the aspirations of others; it is style which is the deference that action pays to uncertainty; it is above all style through which power defers to reason."
You guys had the will and purity of intent to carry the day and save the stone by example.
I like to do what I can to make sure the continuity of spirit remains clear and strong in the community. Downplay as you must, your small group had a massive and immediate conservation effect. Those ugly piton holes and snapped off flakes would be much more common on free climbs if you hadn't cared enough to act.
Thanks!!!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2009 - 09:34am PT
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Frost Bump!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2009 - 06:58pm PT
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Hard to beat the aesthetics of the Hexentric!
The revolution wouldn't have passed a smolder without the tools to pull it off. Tom again......widget and photo!
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Steve, thanks for this post, missed it earlier. I have people laugh at me for always carrying some hexes on my rack, they don't know what they are missing. Nothing like taking a closer look at the crack and working it out that perfect slot.
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yo
climber
I drink your milkshake!
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Wow, never read this one before. It really brings out the sense that a whole community was mobilizing on this.
Thanks Steve.
as#@&%e edit: Check the curves on these babies!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2009 - 10:19am PT
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Nice design, nasty consequences.....
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 20, 2009 - 10:31am PT
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Nice clean bump!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 20, 2009 - 10:37am PT
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Hell people on ST must love pitons, they are forever posting on the wonderful attributes of Serenity Crack- the World's poster child for what chromolly can due to granite.
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yo
climber
I drink your milkshake!
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May 20, 2009 - 11:19am PT
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Travel light, respect the creation, and face yourself.
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jstan
climber
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May 20, 2009 - 02:28pm PT
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"face yourself"
That's about it.
If you look on the surface at where our minds spend most of their time you see
"I don't need anybody
I never fail"
The truth is that is the functional equivalent of sitting on a couch watching TV all day. Hard to feel good about 70 or 80 years spent watching TV. Might as well not be born.
The 60's-70's gave us the best of times and the worst of times. Failure was everywhere and no one could agree on anything. What came out of it? A success, entirely unexpected, and a place like ST where almost forty years later you can still see something is going on between the people.
Cave Rock and its like is the Serenity Crack of today.
Be interesting to see what we do this time.
Will we walk away?
Or will we dig in, lift ourselves up, and be strong?
Go to the Steele Crag thread to see what it is like.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 27, 2009 - 12:39am PT
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Frost bump!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 27, 2009 - 01:35am PT
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Bravo! The historian is back. Those first photos of Serenity Crack say it all, hopefully we won't see anymore posts on ST asking for beta on that monstrosity.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jun 27, 2009 - 02:39pm PT
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Hopefully adding to Steve's history, here's what
JStan was doing many moons ago. . .
I finally found these in my archives. . .
Sorry about the size--I've been having problems with my
photobucket stuff. . .
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Jun 27, 2009 - 04:49pm PT
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At Steve and Mimi's wedding I got handed a copy of the classic '73 Chouinard catalog to sign my clean climbing article. Happens often enough; always an honor. This time I hesitated awhile, though.
Didn't go for the usual:
Climb hard
Climb clean
Go for it
And stay mindful.
Instead, I started thinking about the clean climbing revolution and why it worked:
This revolution succeeded not because of the moral imperative to save the rock,
But because the challenge it presented was intriguing,
And just plain fun.
What's next?
That feels like an important clue about how to frame any future revolution, and we need a few, right now.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 28, 2009 - 03:00pm PT
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Velvet Revolutions are the exception, arising as they do from a desire for peace, freedom and a better world rather than from anger.
The clean climbing version was successful because of the way that it was framed intellectually. The arguments for it could not easily be countered with any real strength or conviction, only personal weakness and indulgence.
Save South Crack by RR set the table for the future by forcing a step back to examine the gains and losses involved in climbing by force. Piton damage and the grim legacy of a hammered future were there for all to see on every free climb.
Serenity Crack and its history of being loved to death is the darkest of poetry. I wonder if Les Wilson had any premonition?
Once the fix was in, there was no turning back.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Jun 28, 2009 - 08:09pm PT
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I mean, I have never even gone up there in these 46 years; Serenity Crack has been a frightfully embarassing thing since the late sixties. Ever since John Stannard, that well known Mass Conquistador of the Useless wrecked it with his big Choice Hammer.
It is so bad that we need to epoxy-and-stone-dust it all back up and then saw in a new one. (g).
God, people loved the RURP and knifeblade back then. Especially young climbers starting out. It was clearly fetishistic. Like women trying on size 3 shoes or Tarbaby making a huge batch of tiny rabbit-pelt musettes for no one in particular! Another kooky example was Center of Little John; it was pinned out to about 1-1/8" wide x 1-1/8 tall x 1" deep by 1965. Everyone wanted the 5.9 A4 rating!!! lol. The pressures you normally have to develop with those tiny pins meant of course that the rock got excavated from placement # one, bigtime.
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jstan
climber
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Today's challenges are just as large as those faced forty years ago. In the late
sixties, during the early stages, we were making the same mistakes in framing
the issues as are being made today. Almost identical mistakes. The turning
point I saw came during the climbers' meeting called by the Mohonk Preserve.
There was no anger. There was no outrage. The problem was allowed to take
center stage. It just simply was not about us. Neither individually nor
collectively.
Being able to separate oneself from a problem is a critical first step on the path
to a solution. It ceased being a personal issue.
Seen appropriately, today's issues are no more about we here today than rock
damage was about us back in the seventies. What were the issues then and
what are the issues today?
What kind of world shall we leave to our grandchildren?
Will they have a chance to be excited and challenged? Will they have a chance
to explore and to seek adventure in a natural world?
Can we, whose lives have been so blessed by these incredible gifts, leave any
less to those who follow?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 4, 2009 - 04:19pm PT
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Thou shalt not trash the place...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2009 - 01:02pm PT
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Do what is best for climbing, as Bob Kamps would say, and demand your own best effort.
Black Diamond catalog 2002.
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Sheridan Anderson, of course. The last page of his classic Baron von Mabel's Backpacking. Followed by this Sheridan rundown, also pretty classic:
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2009 - 05:31pm PT
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Great cartoon, Doug! I had lost track of the source of that hilarious line. Thanks for posting the long version.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2009 - 10:31pm PT
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Classic Frost Bump!
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jstan
climber
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Would that Anderson had not gone away. A priceless and unique variety of humor.
Lost forever.
We are never more powerful than when we are laughing.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2010 - 03:40pm PT
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Preserving the Wise Cracks Bump!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
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Long overdue bump...
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LilaBiene
Trad climber
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Incredibly educational for me. Inspirational, too.
Goethe, Tolkien and Tom Frost all together...it doesn't get any better to me!!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Oddly, I've always really enjoyed the first pitch of Serenity. Used to run the whole thing out just to showboat for whoever might be watching. Now, when I see photos of the first pitch, my primary emotion is nostlgia.
'jus sayin.
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Marty Lewis
climber
Bishop, CA
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Nail 'em till they go free. Then free 'em on gear. Trad ethics right?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2012 - 10:39am PT
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Trad climbing is doing your best to leave the stone and its beautiful challenge intact for yourself and those that follow.
It isn't bang so your gang can hang and free the thang, Mr. Lewis...
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Marty Lewis
climber
Bishop, CA
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Steve. Just havin' a little fun. Not sayin' its right.
I do know that Serenity to Sons is a super popular top-rated free climb.
I'm guessing without the pin scars it would be a bolt protected 5.11+ seam. Way mo' better.
Just to be clear, I don't like pitons for free climbing. If you can't use clean gear, then place a bolt.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2015 - 12:28pm PT
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I give thanks for Tom Frost.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2017 - 10:28am PT
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Clean climbing was vastly better than hanging out and banging in pitons. Good thing that it turned out to be easier to do thanks to the concerted efforts of a determined band of visionaries or things would be much uglier now.
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jstan
climber
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Jun 25, 2017 - 12:54pm PT
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At one of the Facelifts I heard Yosemite's super say how grateful the NPS is that we stopped using pitons. Need I say more?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2018 - 09:42am PT
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You have plenty to be proud of in that regard Maestro as you were one of the principal principled drivers of the revolution. Without you guys the stone torture would never have stopped so rapidly.
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