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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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I nominate LEB to be the official lightning rod of SuperTopo.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there mighty hiker, and leb... say, you know, it sure seems to be so, at times... at that...
*edit: oops, sorry, finally came back to help clarify:
i thought the lightening rod image from mighty hiker, was as cute picture, as for post, getting clicks...
well, god bless, all... :)
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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DMT is a fantastic writer with awesome posts! I always enjoy his posts, he has a great writing style.
LEB's writing on the other hand is.... well... lacking.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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What Woody said:
"Lois,
Keep it up. There is a set of people that you irritate, and they will call just about anything you post as a troll. On the whole, they are a shallow lot. I've usually found your posts worth reading and reflecting on."
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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More wisdom from Woody:
"Hang in Lois. I love the way you irritate some of these guys. They actually have to think when you post something, and that's very demanding for them."
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Lois, since you 'are' DMT you of course know who Beth is, if you go back to that thread and skim the posts you will find the answer, as well. If you do that and still don'e get it, there is no point in pursuing this any farther....
Pushin nine in the left coast, and close to the bedtime of those of us who get up @ 5, isn't it pretty late in that slag heap in the east? hint...
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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I just want to weigh in on this important thread and celebrate bumping a thread where the LEB virus can replicate without damaging important data.
It's Spring LEBster. You must be having a gardening Orgy no? Tell us about any varmits that aim to spoil your digs.
;-)
Karl
LEB writes
"I know Beth is a very famous and talented climber who did an ad with our very own Chris Mac. - talk about a good looking pair (!!!) - Yikes!!! Bodies to die for. If they could bottle it, they'd be millionaires."
Cough, Cough. Swing and a miss
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Sis, you may want to recheck the odd detail... g'night.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Comsic
Don't you dare call LEBSTER a Putz
She's an Ignorant slut and her real name is Jane
Lois is her middle name
I think!
;-)
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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"Ironically, there is some resemblance between Beth Rodden and the girl in the pics DMT posted."
Opps, dug yourself deeper
If you knew em, they couldn't look more different
But what does this have to do with the Hudson river? Oh yeah, didn't that start out with somebody assuming it was salty?
Peace
Karl
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Brian
climber
Cali
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Don't use words you don't understand.
"et al." is not synonymous with "etc."
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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I thought that other thread said there was to be kicking of the dog... Not glorifying the bitch.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Well, once again I feel obligated to stick up for Lois.
Karl, you called her an ignorant slut. I don't think we have any evidence here to be calling her a slut.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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I was an atheist but I am turning to Jesus with this simple prayer:
Please sweet Jesus, make the hag go away for good.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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I agree Divad. While I wouldn't say I even begin to agree with most of what she says, not that I've read all that much, I will say that the hatred aimed at her helps me understand why some people join the Taliban.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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HAHAHAHA Yikes! Ouch!
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PRRose
climber
Boulder
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A good general rule is that etc. refers to other things and et al. refers to other people.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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LEB, it's my sister. She's MUCH better than I am!!
I have a lot of them....
BirchEll
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Sorry,
Decided I can't have my sister's fine art sullied by all the nastiness.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Thanks,
I just started a little thread for her!
I don't think she minds if I share.
I think she'd really like to sell!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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I almost suspect Rox = LEB but just in case you are serious Rox, the slut thing is an inside joke that even Lois forgets from time to time. (not that being a slut is so bad, it's a service occupation)
I posted this the last time I was called out for calling Lois a Slut
"See my edit above Lois.
A supertopo search of LEB and slut returns 151 results. A supertopo search of Karl and slut returns 23 returns, eight of which were written by LEB and 9 were written by Me or Moosie!
It's a long running joke that you yourself have fed. So funny it strikes you out of the blue now!
love you
Karl"
Lois is a good foil for us all, like having our mom onboard. Doesn't mean we can roast her back as well.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Well, since it was YOU who got all on my nutsack, Rox, I guess it's easy enough to see that I've only responded to your (typical) BS. I'd guess, since you're supposedly of the adult model, that you'd know by now that if you start talking trash, people will eventually respond. Just like your angry, uncalled for post here about Karl. You're a piece of sh#t, dude. Hiding behind a keyboard, talking trash. No wonder you fit into this thread as a supporter...
Secondly, you approached ME telling me you'd discovered that the fields could hold HTML code but had NO idea how to exploit it. I only mention it because you HAVE gone on telling people that YOU figured out the weakness, when in fact you didn't. You figured out there was a weakness there, but didn't know how to take advantage of it, as you know nothing about HTML code, even as simple as an image tag.
Enter me, who figured it out before any of the rest of you wankers. Then the next guy who added the java code for the pop-ups. All the while you sending me mails practically begging me to share how I did it. Yes, you're right, you don't know anything about HTML code. No biggie. But where the rub is, is that you're also a self-righteous prick of a fellow who hdes behind a keyboard cause the other one hasn't quite dropped yet, who will eventually get exactly what you wished on Karl up-thread, the day you let the other one drop and smart off like that in person.
But, keep it coming. As I said elsewhere, Russ needed a break. And I have all day to be amused at your insolence.
edit: instead of constantly editing your previous posts, step up and use new posts, f*#ktard. Maybe you can give us all a lesson on HTML, CSS and Java while you're at it, smart guy. You're pathetic. hahaha
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Nothing to be confused about locker. Rox bit off more than he could chew, as usual, and is going back and deleting/editing posts and plugging up current ones with his typical drivel.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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hahaha Yeah, nice try. Try again, lamer. Your words above more than clear it up for everyone...
It's pretty simple and exactly as I stated above and as you stated on the day it happened - see above pic. You had the inkling that it could be done but weren't man enough to do it.
So, feel free to go back and read the thread that *I* started where you admit to coming in second. Yeah, you're obviously holding back and "being overly generous, not wanting to call you out at the time" there. AssClown.
edit: Just to keep with the theme and all - I take NO credit for making Rokjox look like a complete jackass. He did that all by himself. All I did was repost his words, showing his lie. So, I just "Gotta give credit where it is due".
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Do you really want to keep doing this? I mean, seriously. You're pointing to things that are gonna simply make you look even more like a jackass, dude. At least make it a bit challenging...
Incidentally, I HAVE saved the thread, as I know how you like to go back and edit/delete your posts...
edit: Never said I did do any work on it prior to you asking.
All your posts are doing are proving what I've said to be right. You posted, saying that you had an idea that there was an exploit and then asked for help. The *next* post (mine), was with an avatar, and said something like "You mean like this"? Took me about 2 minutes to figure it out, dude. If that.
As I stated above, you had an idea, I did the work that made it happen. I simply called you on you trying to make it sound like you did it all by yourself.
Next...
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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"just corrected my syntax."
I didn't correct anything of yours, dude. Why would I need to? I write webpages for a living, dumbass. I surely don't need you (who was self-admittedly incapable) to show me how to type out an image tag.
"You had NO interest in the problem and were NOT working on it."
Now you're simply back to arguing with yourself again. I NEVER said I was, ignoramus!
I'm simply not sure what you think you're gaining at this point. You're honestly just showing yourself to be a liar and a minipulator (glad you're keep things On Topic tho). I'm finished with this, as you obviously have some serious issues and I'm not going to waste my time on a totally illogical "debate". You're a fool, dude.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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A big juicy fresh worm wiggles in the water...how long will it last?
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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LEB writes
"Karl, sometimes you just need a huge massive Texas longhorn bull to do the job. Strong as I am, I just can't fight like a man and sometimes that is what you guys need. Rox IS the massive longhorn bull - the one who in McMurtry novel (Lonesome Dove) got into the fight with the grisley bear and won. "
Nonsense Lois. You are the MASTER!! You fight like water, Drip Drip Drip eroding all resistance. None has overcome you, only few are immune. Quit being so modest.
Rox is your good disciple. His rants against the GOP earn him unending respect in my eyes, but if he would search out the old "Jane you Ignorant Slut" posts, he'd see that I'm only half irritated at you, the other half is pure love.
We're all idiots. You just have a special talent that we can all learn from
Lagoons, how salty?
Peace
Karl
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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PLUNK!!! Another fat juicy worm lands in the pool...how long does it have?
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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"Rox is your good disciple."
I can do you one better, Karl...
I can't take credit for this - thanks, ___, for the email.
Rokjox = LEB's husband! HAHAHAHA Now it ALL makes sense!
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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There have been studies that show that the most painful thing for a man is for him to lose his spouse. The most painful thing for a woman is for her to lose her children. Not really a difference of opinion, so much as it's a difference in the way that the sexes are wired.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Timid - the big fat juicies lasted a very short time as suspected... :)
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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PLOP!!! A meaty chicken leg tied to a string splashes in...
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Looks more like a shift-change to me, Crimpie!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Um, my posts have nothing to do with amusing you. I thought this thread was for anything. And I believe my posts have great artistic value and give me great pleasure.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Oh... you used the word "artistic"... That night signal another shift-change...
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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You are 100% incorrect.
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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A message to Dear President Obama on how the Sun drives climate.
"CO2 has never driven, does not drive and never will drive weather or Climate. Global warming is over and it never was anything to do with CO2. CO2 is still rising but the world is now cooling and will continue to do so. Those who claim man's CO2 is driving weather or Climate must produce evidence. They cannot do so because there is no such evidence and they cannot even forecast anything. All they do is wait for extreme events and say that whatever happens is what they expected. Such drivel should not be allowed to pass yet shamefully many who style themselves as science correspondents and experts promote this nonsense. Global
Climate Change is a deceitful political game to take money from our pockets.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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We are walking out the door to the gym this moment...but we'll keep this in mind. Be sure to refrigerate the worms and chicken legs in case we don't make it.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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I was thinking if Rokjox was actually gonna show, I'd just hang out with you and your shirt, Fatty! We could throw down a couple of Cobras... :)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Whew! I'm going back to Jerry Springer. I think he's got a posse from the JDL on to debate some Taliban.
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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LEB- you bait Locker constantly. It's as if you're "talking behind his back" even though he's in the other room and you know he can hear you. You just don't seem to know when to say when- it was painfully obvious when Locker was really struggling to keep it together during the last few weeks and you just kept going.
Just my view from the sidelines.
I don't give a flying fvck if you climb or not. Actually, I'm glad you don't.
I'm all jacked up on the oil base, watch out.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Good lord and butter.
You people are bored.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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So how many posters here are enjoying a friendly wrassle in the mud, and how many are actually pained at being insulted or disrespected?
Unless ya'll just wanna rage a bit, why not live and let live? We're all a bunch of misfits, except the extra-straight laced (and that's perverted too)
WTF, camp 4 has alway been inhabitied by quirky wacko characters larger than life. We like it that way.
LEB writes
"No, Karl, nonsense. Rox fights like a man fights - same as Jody. They clobber - none of this pussy-footing around and psychological warfare. They get the job done directly. "
Silly Lois, don't be so modest. You are MASTER! You have defeated all like a virus kills a Tiger. There is no such thing as brute force on the internet, just makes a guy look puffy.
You however, are invincible!
Peace
karl
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Skip - I grew up using chicken legs tied to a string in the Galveston area while crabbing. The crabs COULD NOT resist them. Tons of fun!
edit: How the heck to use a string on a chicken thigh? And bleck - I'd be grossed out to touch a chicken neck!!
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BrassNuts
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Chicken heads? Oh, I see, chicken necks. I'm in the chicken neck column myself... a slow surface would reveal many chomping crabs!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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YOU used chicken necks? Uh oh. :)
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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edit: You're pathetic and just not worth it... Best part is that you know it and will continue to rot in your own personal hell.
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WBraun
climber
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fattrad -- "I'm still feeling unloved, what no abuse over my shirt? All this hate for LEB and I get none?"
Hahahaha we love ya
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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If I forget to say it another time Cosmic, you have some twisted skills and creativity, that I for one, (though I know I'm not alone) really dig!
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Aya K
Trad climber
New York
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So... what does this thread have to do with the salinity of the Hudson? I must be missing something.
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WBraun
climber
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It's always easy to pile on someone. Show all their faults and amplify them. Makes us feel real big and strong, especially with a lot of support.
Sad .....
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WBraun
climber
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Locker
You are a drama queen.
Next, you haven't the slightest clue what climbing is. It has nothing to do with the rocks or the mountains, gear or any of that sh'it.
You blow all your bridges behind you.
You miss all the important holds and anchors.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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"I think there is something to be said for the Rox-Nefarious style of fighting."
I think that's a bit unfair. I've never really had any issues with anyone on this site and am not terribly confrontational, in nature. And then along comes some as#@&%e that has a reputation for this sh#t (being a total trouble making, stalker dick), starting sh#t with me and issuing threats. Sorry, but gonna answer back.
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t^r
Social climber
dancing with puppies
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oh you guyz are so eviel and mean i luv LEB cuz she reminds me of my big sizter who alwayz baked muffins and like, you know? petted puppiez and danczed to the Carpenters even when she never beat me
yo sistah LEB they be hatin on you just makes them them them
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Fair enough, Lois. I understand that.
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Step Beyond!
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FAP FAP FAP
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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"It's the end of the world,
as we know it,
and i feel fine..."
-REM; like y'all didn't already know that!
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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"Arabian wind, The needle's eye is thin, The ships of state sail on mirage,
And drown in sand, Out in no-man's land where Allah does command.
What good is spilling blood? It will not grow a thing;
Taste eternity the swords sing: Blues of Allah In 'sh'Allah.
They lie where they fall, There's nothing more to say,
The desert stars are bright tonight lets meet as friends,
The Flower of Islam, The Fruit of Abraham.
The thousand stories have come round to one again,
Arabian night, Our Gods pursue their fight,
What fatal flowers of darkness spring from seeds of light.
Bird of paradise fly in white sky, Blues for Allah In 'sh'Allah,
Let's see with our heart, These things our eyes have seen,
And know the truth must still lie somewhere in between.
Under eternity, under eternity, under eternity blue,
Bird of paradise fly in white sky, Blues for Allah In 'sh'Allah."
GD
"can't we all just get along?" -some speeder...
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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"Curioser and curioser" once you jump, headfirst, into the rabbit hole, certain decisions are in the past... you're 'on the train"...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Still at it?
Can't leave you kids alone for a minute!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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LEB writes
"Now I will let you in on a little secret. I have landed the job of a lifetime. It is everything I have always wanted and more. BUT here is the big but.....I had to endure an awful place and an awful trial to get there. Nine months of sheer, unmitigated hell, however, after dealing with you guys lo these years, it was a piece of cake. Who knows that I could have stuck out what I needed to do without this experience. I had to deal with negativity on par with what is on this forum in order to get from there to where I am now. Of course I will never know for sure but I can't help but think that this experience has paved the way and allowed me to do what I had to do so as to be where I am now. '
There's a ring of truth to this.
It's also been good for us tough men to know that the power of your obliviousness could overcome our tough exterior and drive us out of our composure zone into the desire to strangle you. Really. We think we're strong but you've shown us we can still lose our minds. Look at poor Locker, the latest victim.
Now there's two things. Lois, you might recognize that you did transgress the appropriate in your a*#ertions about Woody. You were speaking with his grieving personal friends who had bonding adventures with him and your posting on the internet with Woody is not the same.
There's a time to back off and this issue has challenged many of us here to find how far to back off on Woody's death and how far to press ahead with our views. You aren't the only one whose judgement has been questioned here and the answers are up on the air, but you may have overstepped your bounds and should just consider saying so.
Ok that's one thing. I forgot the other thing. But maybe it was this:
Regarding the appropriateness of having email relationships with members of the opposite sex...seems kinda Taliban to me. Your husband should have faith in you and it would undoubtedly be well placed. Why should our friendships be so circumscribed?
Peace
Karl
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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"Lois,
Put a little food in their bowls and give them a pat on the head; reasoning with Beagles is a waste of time."
WoodySt Sep 13, 2008, 11:29pm PT
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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This fukin thread is getting pretty salty.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Believe me Lois, if the eye doctor or the dairy barn employee were to lecture the close friends at the wake about how they were remembering the deceased inappropriately, they might have to have another wake! Still, I understand Lois will be Lois, just thought this issue might be conventional enough for you to grasp.
Rox is a genius. I love reading his posts!
It's snowing in freaken' Yosemite at this moment. Yikes
Peace
Karl
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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A tv/radio style plug for: My Sister's First Climbing Art, 1979 thread since this one seems so damn popular.
Please take a look.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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that's like asking you to shut up. :)
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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about 99%
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Aw, here we go...
You're sure getting what you asked for in this thread.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Hey locker, if you can get away from the doll long enough, can you slap some stealth approach soles on my birkenstocks next week when I'm down there?
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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I don't know what it is about your writing style or personality, LEB, but you are sure a confident person. Even when being humble, which I am not sure I've ever seen, you are absolutely positively confident about your shortcomings. When you think you are right, you are 100% sure that you are right and when you might admit some failing, you are 100% sure about your failing. There is never a moment where there is doubt in anything you write. Maybe it's just writing style but it is sure there in your posts.
LEB, for some reason, the "I" and "Me" words in your posts stand out more than in other peoples posts.
I didn't know Woody even if I did read some of his posts. A post on the internet is not a person and there is no way to know anyone here from anything written here. I also have no idea how any of his friends feel about their loss and about their friend even though I have lost people. No one can know another's pain regardless of what LEB thinks. Regardless of my small meaningless connection here, I do send condolences to all involved and I am sorry for your loss even if it is not mine. I am a climber and losing a climber to climbing always is saddens.
I'm also sorry for LEB. I don't feel sorry for LEB, I am just plain sorry and my condolences go out to those that have to deal with that which is LEB and that which has no ability to say out of something when asked.
I also know nothing about the salinity of the Hudson (wasn't that the heading on this thread?). I do know that Lake Tahoe is darned cold right now and with ski season coming to an end and kayak season months away, climbing may be my only alternative. Dang, doesn't that suck ;-)
Dave
P.S. "et al" really wasn't the best choice here. "etc..." would also be bad since both would suggest that the topic pertains to the salinity of that particular river and other rivers. Being clever leads to being dumb. Use "Salinity of the Hudson and Other Topics" if that is what you mean. Don't beat around the bush. (locker will do that for you, I'm sure). If you must use "etc..." then add another unrelated item to the list so that "etc..." is the third item. This gives a better varying context as in "Salinity of the Hudson, Haircare for the Pope, etc..."
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Isn't there a character named Lucy or Lois or something, in Peanuts? With more than somewhat similar behaviour?
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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LEB writes
"Now about this Woody thing, I DO feel strongly about the particular issue in contention and I am doing so for Woody's benefit - not because I want to step in all your collective sh#t. I could be wrong about it and, then again, I could be right about it. I have a valid point which I have made - whether it is accurate or not is another issue. I have a "right" to do something which I perceive is in his best interest. You can argue about the substance of what I put forth but to suggest I have no "right" to speak to it is plain inaccurate."
Here's where you're mistaken Lois. Woody screwed up 100% and we all know it. Doesn't mean we fault him. We all screw up, sometimes it gets us but most of the time it doesn't. Since you don't have a clue about what happened, you don't have a right to weigh in wrongly about it.
But I don't expect you to abandon your pit bull approach. If I die, you can come moarn my death online and others are free to flame you for it. Just the way the world turns it seems as even if people do learn with time, they learn dang slow so it will be same as it ever was
PEace
Karl
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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"A post on the internet is not a person and there is no way to know anyone here from anything written here."
If you really believed then you wouldn't have typed this after making judgments about Lois based only on Internet posts.
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Step Beyond!
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Well, I tried - and yet here it is still at the top.
Top...hmm...that reminds me to explain to those who haven't figured it out yet - that thing about LEB and abuse:
The Bottom is The Top
Hope that helps.
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Dick_Lugar
Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
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Locker...
I'm not your mother, BUT
MORE GLUEIN'....
and LESS POSTIN!
JUST SAYIN'...I SHUD know...I'm the KING of PROCRASTINATORS!
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WBraun
climber
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This thread reads ....
After the apocalypse, a group of mental health patients have inherited the Earth.
Armed with a short bus and imagination, they must rebuild society and find the edge of the world.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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A "short bus" ain't gonna hold this many patients.
And you might hear from the pc crowd about the use of that term.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Redlands
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I poo in your stew
Yes I do, poo in your stew
Stew haiku with poo
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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haha, Cosmic! I hoped someone would post that, Lois/ lucy 'toon. I was gonna look for it, if not...
Lois, did you see the the cartoon analysis from (gasp) RC.com that someone linked back a few pages on this thread? Check it out, if you have any more questions, I think this gives one a conceptual overview of the accident.
Locker, oh well, just trying to send you a quick and easy job... I wish you hadden't reminded me that my blowup doll needs work too...
Werner, I think that sums it up better than anything I've ever heard (re, the world situation and the short bus) I love how you can look at the world and remind us of who we are!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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"This thread reads ....
After the apocalypse, a group of mental health patients have inherited the Earth.
Armed with a short bus and imagination, they must rebuild society and find the edge of the world."
Everyone should rent the movie "King of Hearts" trust me
"Maybe your absurd objection to the "Woody Check" is a fear that someday someone will coin the phrase the "Lois Check". That would be where a patient dies because the nurse was derelict in her duties because she was distracted by slag fests on the blogs. "
Lois already has her internet fame here
The Loising Point and LEBification!
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=497677
Dear Lois
As a worthy partner in our love-hate relationship, I must dedicate the following tribute to you to mark this occasion of your leaving me.
The nature of Internet discussion has created new idioms for communication protocol like “Goodwin’s Law”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwin%27s_law
You deserve a law named for you and I consider it my duty to propagate this law across cyberspace for the sanity of the world and to render you lasting fame. A legacy that I know you will actually cherish despite any negative connotations.
So without further ado. Let me present “Lois’s Law” and it corollary principle, “the Loising Point”
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I have an internet friend named Lois.
She just doesn’t “get it” sometimes.
The truth is we all don’t “Get it” to different degrees about something or another.
But Lois embodies obtuseness in such a way that I realize that a certain threshold of blindness is a cosmic principle in human relationships. We can talk until we are blue in the face but some people will never, ever, ever, ever, Ever “get it”
Get used to it.
“Hey Lois, can you see the nose on your face?”
“I don’t see it. Everybody else’s face seem to have a nose but I can’t see one on me”
“Lois, look way down above your lips, you gotta see it.”
“All I see is a blurry blob. It doesn’t look anything like the nose on your face.”
“Come on Lois, when you have a cold, what’s all the snot come out of?”
“Oh Lord, when it’s cold season my cat gets a cold and her nose drips all over my clean sheets. But me, I’ve never heard anything about any nose that might be on my face”
“Yeah Lois, but I searched on the internet and I found 12 examples of people telling you about the nose on your face.”
“You never can be too sure of anything. I heard of a man whose nose was shot off by his ex-wife, I bet he still get colds and he didn’t have a nose. What do you mean by nose?”
I could go on and on,
and it does go on and on.
But the point is simple.
And that is
When you’ve gone around and around trying to communicate something to someone, made your case clear, logical, documented and presented it from every conceivable viewpoint.
And that person can’t even acknowledge the issue to disagree on.
And when their responses inevitably turn into a self-referential feedback loop
That person will never get your point
But you’ve reached theirs
You’ve
reached
their
“Loising point.”
Any further discussion will only deteriorate into the “Loisification” of the subject.
The self-referential feedback loop will imprint excess bandwidth hum over any further progress in the debate.
The topic is lost and the subject reverts to "Me, Me, Me"
Don’t go there. When you reach someone’s “Loising Point” stop engaging. The discussion and only be “Loised-up” at that point.
If you take somepoint to the Loising point.
Step
Away
From
The
Computer!
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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what about the, photo of the quarry, point? you could at least toss us one last bone!
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Sleep well!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nite Nite and much Love Lois dear who writes
"So what that means is if you want to chat, you know where to find me - right here . Same rule applies - anything and everything is fair game for discussion. Otherwise , I'm out of here. ST has gotten simply too poopy, of late. A whole lot of people here just took dumps at the campsite instead of going over to the latrine. "
Yes, the strategic retreat! Jody is master of it. You've even done it once not very convincingly I think.
In any case, Whatever you decide, have fun with my best wishes
(cause fighting you will never work)
Peace
Karl
I'll post your last one on the Losing point thread cause anyone with any Salinity left in them isn't following this one anymore
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Apr 10, 2009 - 01:07am PT
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"Ignore all this Lois; it's just ST abberation. It's that time of the month or the waxing moon."
WoodySt Aug 18, 2007, 11:07pm PT
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 10, 2009 - 01:23am PT
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I've seen John Dill solve cases that stumped investigators with that kind of thinking that Lois envisioned.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 10, 2009 - 01:27am PT
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Are you the Moderator?????
We're not talking to you anyways. You're out to lunch.
Get back in that glue hut ....
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Apr 10, 2009 - 01:29am PT
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You guys couldn't live without Lois, your lives would be dull and meaningless, and you know it. That's why you get irked.
Except for Dingus, he IS Lois.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Apr 10, 2009 - 01:32am PT
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Just give it a rest, Locker.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Apr 10, 2009 - 01:49am PT
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Soon after hearing of the accident, it occurred to me that physiological factors might have contributed to it. The general ones we're all familiar with - tired, dehydrated, low blood sugar, distracted by noise, sun in eyes.... Or something more specific, e.g. a stroke or seizure of some kind.
I refrained from saying anything about this, and have said little about the accident on SuperTopo. I only 'knew' Woody, and 'know' most of those others involved, through SuperTopo, and through being a climber. It was unclear what had happened, and there was no need to add to speculation as to why. Most important, I wasn't there, and it seemed likely that the accident and its causes would be thoroughly investigated by people much more qualified than I, people who were there. Eventually we'd hear the full story, though these things can take time. Though maybe we'd never entirely know. So I pretty much STFU. It wasn't my place to offer much more than condolences.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Apr 10, 2009 - 01:50am PT
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RJ, you mean this one?
"It is true that Locker has been vulgar but it is also true that he has never been mean. That should count for something."
That was true then but it's not true anymore.
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Mimi
climber
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Apr 10, 2009 - 02:05am PT
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Exactly Anders. We thought a heart attack may have contributed based on the early false reports. I believed we would learn exactly what happened due to the limited possibilities and there being witnesses. God bless Al and thanks for that. Tragic bummer though.
The first reports were so bogus. What was up with that? Is there an explanation for this? Anyone?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Apr 10, 2009 - 02:08am PT
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I don't understand how the NPS could have gotten it so wrong. The press only printed what the NPS gave them. The NPS put the same thing in its Morning Report.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Apr 10, 2009 - 02:10am PT
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Back in Ripper's office with gunfire sounding in the background, General Ripper puts a comforting - and menacing - arm around a worried Mandrake's shoulder, revealing his completely paranoidal, psycho-sexual, psychotic lunacy. As Mandrake realizes he is speaking face-to-face with the real enemy and is literally being gripped by him, he nervously fingers and folds a piece of chewing gum in his fingers in front of him. According to the nutty, obsessed General who has found a scapegoat for his own sexual inadequacies in the Russkies, Commies are unaffected by the plot to pollute the water of the world because they drink vodka:
Ripper: Mandrake?
Mandrake: Yes, Jack?
Ripper: Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
Mandrake: Well, I can't say I have.
Ripper: Vodka, that's what they drink, isn't it? Never water?
Mandrake: Well, I-I believe that's what they drink, Jack, yes.
Ripper: On no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason.
Mandrake: Oh, eh, yes. I, uhm, can't quite see what you're getting at, Jack.
Ripper: Water, that's what I'm getting at, water. Mandrake, water is the source of all life. Seven-tenths of this earth's surface is water. Why, do you realize that seventy percent of you is water?
Mandrake: Uh, uh, Good Lord!
Ripper: And as human beings, you and I need fresh, pure water to replenish our precious bodily fluids.
Mandrake: Yes. (he begins to chuckle nervously)
Ripper: Are you beginning to understand?
Mandrake: Yes. (more laughter)
Ripper: Mandrake. Mandrake, have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rain water, and only pure-grain alcohol?
Mandrake: Well, it did occur to me, Jack, yes.
Ripper: Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation. Fluoridation of water?
Mandrake: Uh? Yes, I-I have heard of that, Jack, yes. Yes.
Ripper: Well, do you know what it is?
Mandrake: No, no I don't know what it is, no.
Ripper: Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Apr 10, 2009 - 02:30am PT
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OK, I admit that I do not really wish you had not come back, Locker. But you should not let LEB get under your skin like that.
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AbeFrohman
Trad climber
new york, NY
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Apr 10, 2009 - 07:54am PT
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you cant fight in here this is the war room!
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Apr 10, 2009 - 06:34pm PT
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Hey Lois, you're welcome on my threads any ol' time.
Oh wait, I hardly ever start a thread here.
Hmm,.... that might work out just fine.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Apr 10, 2009 - 07:35pm PT
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Lois, I always considered Juan to be the king of internet trollers. But no more.
The question is, how will you feel when Locker finally pops that vein? A little evil, perhaps?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Apr 11, 2009 - 01:14am PT
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Lois,
Please start those threads.
Also, please feel welcome to join any thread that you see me posting in.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 11, 2009 - 01:20am PT
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Who the fuk are you?
Some kind a internet Nazi moderator here? STFU
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TradIsGood
Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Apr 11, 2009 - 01:28am PT
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LEB,
What the ..ck does "et. al." mean?
( Not to you, but in normal usage. Hint, it is an abbreviation for two Latin words. )
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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Apr 11, 2009 - 03:02am PT
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Author Michael Crichton warned of the dangers of "consensus science" in a 2003 speech. He says "Consensus is the business of politics.
Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world.
In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus."
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Apr 11, 2009 - 02:15pm PT
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Apr 11, 2009, 10:20am PT
Author:
Rokjox
This is TOO stupid. I am GONE. GOOD BYE.
I thought you were gone...
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