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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 21, 2009 - 07:52pm PT
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I've been diggin' the thread on climbing with daughters, and not having one, thought I'd start one about climbing with sons. My son, Joe, has been climbing since three (he's 17 now). We've had some great times out, and here are a few pics from the first few years:
Start them off early with the Bachar Ladder:
Ready to pull down at Deadman's Summit:
"Lemme tell ya about the first time I sent the Nose in a day..."
Donner:
Sign of a real hardman:
Getting ready to send at Indian Springs:
OK, so it's sending on toprope:
Hercules' Finger:
Lover's Leap w/a buddy along:
Same day with my wife along:
Cheers!
I've loved the times we've had on the rocks through the years. He still likes climbing, which is great! We spent this afternoon down at the Ballard Vertical World, and had a blast together.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Mar 21, 2009 - 08:05pm PT
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Mar 21, 2009 - 08:56pm PT
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Great thread! Love the photos... Where is Todd Gordon? I really enjoy seeing photos of his boys too.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2009 - 09:04pm PT
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Another one for good measure: Dirtbaggin' it with Dad at Apple Valley (only Joe gets to dirtbag it in his feetsy P.J.s):
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Mar 21, 2009 - 09:23pm PT
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Long time ago I did some graphic design work for a friend who was a guide. Barter style -- I gave him a brochure, he gave my sons a two-day private climbing school. (Yeah, they didn't take kindly to instruction from dad and mom).
Day one was about what you'd expect, basic stuff, harnesses, knots, toprope short things, dangle on ropes and giggle... Day two is a real climb, so we check with the boys: "You still up for this?" Number One son says "No, it was okay yesterday, but I don't really want to do any more." Number Two Son (still a month away from his eighth birthday) says "Sure, I'll do it."
So the next day we hike up to the base of the Apron on the Chief at Squamish, and start up a slab route named Sickle. Seven pitches, 5.9 crux, mostly 5.6 and 5.7. We tie Ian in about ten feet from the end of the rope, and Jim (the guide) leads each pitch while I hang at the belay with Ian. Once Jim get the belay set Ian starts up and I climb along beside him (tied in at the rope's end, about ten feet below his knot).
Mostly he's fine, and really digging it. I just kind of cruise along beside him and let him and keep him company. The 5.9 slab crux was a bit much, and he said the rock hurt his fingers. But I just gave him a bit of a gentle push and he got through it.
So, after seven pitches, we traverse across the top of the Apron to where there are two choices for descent. Jim explains them to Ian, but all Ian says is "Which one is longer?" Which of course leaves me thinking, ah, I guess if you just want to get out of here as fast as you can, I guess you probably didn't like it after all.
But what he says, when Jim tells him, that one is actually much longer than the other is "Okay, let's take the long one then!"
D
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bearbnz
Trad climber
East Side, California
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Mar 21, 2009 - 10:47pm PT
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I love climbing with my 3 boys, and thankfully, they love going out with Dad. Here are my twin boys, 7 or 8 at the time, climbing on Benton Crag. I had to tie them both in to the same rope because with rope drag, one at a time they were too light to get back down.
This was today, at a very busy Owens River Gorge. Riley, one of the twins, on a long 5.8, currently 9 years old.
And my oldest son, 11 years old, on the same route. He climbed to the anchors, set the rope into the hooks, removed the quickdraws, and I lowered him down.
Pretty sure I saw Bachar running around down there, didn't see him climb anything, at least not today.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Mar 22, 2009 - 12:34am PT
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Nice thread Mooser. Thanks for sharing this.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2009 - 12:54am PT
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Thanks Moosie...I get kind of mushy about this kind of stuff. It's genuinely staggering how quickly kids grow up. I know that the biggest regret people in later years have is that they didn't spend enough time with the people they loved, and as C.S. Lewis put it: "The future is something which everyone reaches at 60 minutes an hour, whatever he does, whoever he is." Here's what the little guy in the opening set of pics looks like these days:
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 22, 2009 - 12:57am PT
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Great stuff, mooser. I hope that ladder didn't tweak their elbows. LOL!
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rich sims
Trad climber
co
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Mar 22, 2009 - 01:06am PT
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mooser
Great thread
The El Cap Meadows picture is priceless.
Being a father of daughters with a son in law who jumps out of planes but is not keen on heights I will be climbing with daughters tomorrow.
Sons or daughters you are blessed.
So let’s see the pictures everyone.
YOU TOO Todd
Rich Sims
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2009 - 09:11am PT
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Thanks, Mimi. Thanks, Rich. Mimi...as you can see in the first pic, Joe's technique was a little off from the start. He didn't know he was supposed to grab the rungs. Kids these days...
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Phantom Fugitive
Trad climber
Misery
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Mar 22, 2009 - 10:07am PT
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Zion and I rackin' up for the day-
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Mar 22, 2009 - 11:25am PT
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Phantom, your images aren't visible to me (probably others as well).
There is a wonderful short tale by John Vawter about climbing with his son Kellen at Tahquitz a few years back, here on ST that is also worth reading. Thanks
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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Mar 22, 2009 - 01:30pm PT
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Mooser, what do you feed that kid? He looks like one of those Poway toughs from back in the seventies!
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2009 - 02:18pm PT
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Phantom X: Well, he has spent an awful lot of time in Poway, but hasn't been there long enough to look like...I don't know...maybe one of the Adams brothers, or someone.
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 22, 2009 - 03:51pm PT
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My boy is three months, so this thread has been inspiring as I try to figure out life with a little guy around.
He's been to the happy's and the buttermilks, we're trying the druid hill today, but it's really cold.
What do you guys think for top roping? Four years? Five years? When do you worry about scaring them out of it for good?
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Eastside
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Mar 22, 2009 - 04:06pm PT
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Every kid is different Tom, mine was a little too timid to do much at any age besides top rope.
I pretty much made him lead an easy 5.6 at Clark's when he was 17 and he'd just tr'ed it. He whimpered. But pushed on and did it, and thanked me for it.
We never climbed together again and now he's gone.
Climb with your kids, lead by example, get them out doing the things you love. And push harder to know how they REALLY are feeling.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Mar 22, 2009 - 05:24pm PT
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I don't have any sons.But I have climbed with a lot of people who are other people's sons.
Here is Chasbro and his son Dave, working up an apetite for Dim Sum, a few years back. I have climbed Devil's Tower with the two of them
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Mar 22, 2009 - 07:44pm PT
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Jake on Surprise.
A 10a near Hair Lip.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 22, 2009 - 09:47pm PT
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Great thread, Mooser!
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Mar 22, 2009 - 10:02pm PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 22, 2009 - 10:27pm PT
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My son Beck says his new sport is tennis;..........he's tried his hand at the dirty/dangerous sport of climbing....
Use your feet, son.................................
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2009 - 12:44am PT
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Thanks, Steve! Todd: nice stomach friction shot there! An often under-valued technique.
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Mar 23, 2009 - 12:39pm PT
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Since I posted in the daugther thread, I guess I should post the boyz.
They made the transition from tr to their first leads last summer
I need to get some pics of them chimneying up the hallway.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Mar 23, 2009 - 12:43pm PT
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Sooner than you might think ...
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 23, 2009 - 12:46pm PT
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shane at 2 years old, alabama hills. minutes before a complete meltdown.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 25, 2009 - 01:55am PT
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Get em' started early;....
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Hardluck
Social climber
N of Mexico, S of Sanity
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Mar 26, 2009 - 02:48am PT
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Kellen, 5 years old in Malibu
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 26, 2009 - 03:02am PT
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Not only can he climb, but he is a gifted artist as well.....(I like to brag...)
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2009 - 08:46am PT
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Jackson Pollock in Huggies! Looks like you have a real renaissance man there, Todd! ;-)
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Mar 26, 2009 - 10:22am PT
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Tory is 15. We had a pretty good summer. South Crack:
With his sister Kyra, topped out, and friend Isabella
Fingertips .10b
An hour later (harder than it looks over those knobs)
Summit of Cathedral Peak
Spotting Dad
In a couple weeks we're going to ski through here
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Fletcher
Trad climber
here to eternity
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Mar 26, 2009 - 11:43am PT
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Ah, Todd has an artist in the family. We have one too (my three year old daughter), who is also working in the same media (furniture and permanent marker).
Eric
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2009 - 11:46am PT
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DR - What a great series of pics! Sweet!
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Mar 26, 2009 - 12:02pm PT
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Todd,
Nice artwork!
I remember when are oldest boy William was ~13 months old. We'd just moved into our house and I was re-painting a couple of bedrooms, the green room and gold room respectively.
Anyhow, I'm in the habit of wrapping the paint roller in foil vs. cleaning it. So I'd left the paint soaked roller in the gold room and planned to go back to painting the next night.
I get home from work and my wife relays the story of Williams artwork. I guess he'd seen me painting and wanted to help. My wife was upstairs and heard grunting sounds from downstairs. She went to investigate. William had managed to remove the foil from the roller, and had proceded to roll it on the carpet from the paint tray, out the door and was grunting his way up the stairs.
Yup, I'm proud of that boy. He still hasn't caught up to my childish acts of stupidity.
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Cracko
Trad climber
Quartz Hill, California
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Mar 26, 2009 - 12:35pm PT
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Doug,
The pic of your boy spotting you was classic !! Also, the skateboard pick told a whole other story. My last trip to JT with my 15 yr old son and his two friends was a testament to the challenges we now face as "old school" parents with the "new" generation. Between their blowing things up in the fire pit, and trying to text message every three minutes, I finally convinced "the boys" to pick any of the surrounding summits and scramble to the top. My son led the charge,and the ensuing "stumblefest" greatly delighted me. As we sat on the summit, my son's two friends looked at me as if to say, "What are you....crazy!". But, the chatter around the fire that evening, and their interest in bagging another peak the next day, made me feel like I had shared something of great value with them. Thanks again for the share.
Cracko
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Cracko
Trad climber
Quartz Hill, California
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Mar 26, 2009 - 12:37pm PT
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And Todd,
Your posts make me laugh and cry at the same time. We need to compare stories !!!
Cracko
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 26, 2009 - 12:55pm PT
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Mr Shane on his virgin rope up, jtree.
The young lad turned 3 years old today.. happy bday bud!
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Mar 26, 2009 - 02:26pm PT
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Inspiring Thread!!
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JimC
climber
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Mar 26, 2009 - 03:07pm PT
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Finally after all these years my own personal "rope gun"!
In NH fall of 2008
Casual on the Pear at Lumpy Ridge- summer 2008
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james Colborn
Trad climber
Truckee, Ca
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Mar 26, 2009 - 03:39pm PT
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Seamus at 5 weeks last May.
The boy warming up for the big send from this past fall at Split rock at Donner St. park.
Pulling down hard.
Pulling on dime edges in T Meadows
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2009 - 05:19pm PT
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These are awesome! Keep 'em comin'!!
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Mar 26, 2009 - 05:49pm PT
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Hey Todd-
you'd better be careful, or your son will be creating his art on those lovely cliffs around there...
oh wait, that's what his dad does too!
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 26, 2009 - 05:59pm PT
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Great thread dad's such beautiful children!!! From my experience you'll only climb as hard as your son one day in your life and then they find their own way and other partners, although it sure makes for great reunions. Enjoy and teach them well, Berg Heil.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 27, 2009 - 12:35am PT
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Mar 28, 2009 - 12:52pm PT
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I figured out a way to keep the boys from driving us nuts. Break out the cmi's and teach them hallway aid climbing.
I think you could sum up their experience as, ascenders are cool, prusiks and kleimheists suck.
I just need to get in some more practice and get my A5 double wide back from my buddy.
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Michael Kennedy
Social climber
Carbondale, Colorado
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Mar 28, 2009 - 03:54pm PT
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They start out like this:
Hayden (age 6) & Julie on Turkey Rock, Independence Pass, Colorado in 1996.
And end up like this:
Hayden (age 18) in the Pipe Dream, Maple Canyon, Utah in 2008.
Or this:
Hayden (age 17) on Crack A-Go-Go, Yosemite in 2007.
Make it fun and casual at the beginning and always treat it as an opportunity to play, and you can't go wrong.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2009 - 07:29pm PT
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Great stuff!
"Make it fun and casual at the beginning and always treat it as an opportunity to play, and you can't go wrong." No lie! The old (and related) adage, "always leave them wanting more" is good to keep in mind also.
Fun pics, y'all!
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Mar 30, 2009 - 10:12pm PT
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OK - the boy plus a trip report.
Yosemite 28 March 2009
The boy
Steve: rope gun in training--he fired
The base of the route; After Seven. (I last climbed this in 1978). Looking a little nervous. Third outside route-first multi-pitch.
Cranking! Note foot jam.
Ah - first belay and the crux below:
Pitch #2
Pitch#3 Knee bars and chickenwings!
At the belay before the last pitch
A great route. He cruised it and can't wait to get back.
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Double D
climber
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Mar 30, 2009 - 11:35pm PT
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Great Pics everyone!
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Feb 21, 2016 - 09:32pm PT
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I was just talking with my daughter-in-law about the child she and our son will be welcoming into the world this May. We were talking about raising kids up in a way that camping and outdoors activities are "normal," rather than something they get freaked out by when introduced to it at an older age. Reminded me of this thread I started a few years back, and she enjoyed seeing our son--her husband--as he grew up climbing and camping.
Sort of a shameless bump, but more nostalgic than anything.
Cheers!
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covelocos
Trad climber
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Feb 22, 2016 - 07:52am PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:01am PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:02am PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:05am PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:08am PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:10am PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:12am PT
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Layton on Wheeler Peak NV, 13,000
Tenaya Peak
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:16am PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:17am PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:20am PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:22am PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:27am PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2016 - 08:28am PT
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Feb 22, 2016 - 09:31am PT
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Holy smokes, Todd! Yer kids are getting huge!
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Feb 22, 2016 - 09:46am PT
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I've climbed with my son since he was about 13, and my daughter too, but not as much. Some of these are digital copies from snap-shots, I just dug out.
In hind-sight there were a few climbs I took him on, which were probably
a little too serious for his young age.
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Feb 22, 2016 - 09:53am PT
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Feb 22, 2016 - 09:58am PT
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Feb 22, 2016 - 10:05am PT
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Feb 22, 2016 - 10:09am PT
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Feb 22, 2016 - 10:12am PT
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Feb 22, 2016 - 10:25am PT
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 22, 2016 - 11:22am PT
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It is the one thing that I wish I could do more of. When they were tots here he was 5 or 6
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Feb 22, 2016 - 12:16pm PT
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My 21 year old son primarily studies and surfs, although he is starting to get hooked on climbing.
His first climbing trip ever was at Dome Rock last May. He was lucky enough to sesh some boulders at the "Ampetheater" with Ron Carson.
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Blakey
Trad climber
Sierra Vista
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Feb 22, 2016 - 02:58pm PT
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Feb 22, 2016 - 03:44pm PT
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Feb 22, 2016 - 06:02pm PT
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Feb 22, 2016 - 06:21pm PT
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^^^ Seward Hghwy?
P.S. - Though this thread started as "sons," it doesn't need to confine itself to male progeny.
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Feb 22, 2016 - 06:23pm PT
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Yup, the rock sucks but it's close. I missed the very short ice climbing window this season, hopefully next year we get a real winter.
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Feb 22, 2016 - 06:39pm PT
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I always wanted to get up there when I lived in SE, but never did (except to Anchorage, itself). Cheers!
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Feb 22, 2016 - 07:38pm PT
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Tom,
You didn't miss much, if the routes weren't so conveniently located and the only option for evening or mid day climbs, only a handful of the routes at best would see any traffic.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Feb 22, 2016 - 09:03pm PT
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Feb 23, 2016 - 05:39am PT
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^^^ Ah, man...some sweet pics above.
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kpinwalla2
Social climber
WA
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Feb 23, 2016 - 10:47am PT
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My boy making short work of his dad's route at Red Rocks in his Chucky T's.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Feb 23, 2016 - 03:50pm PT
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Feb 23, 2016 - 05:38pm PT
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Okay ^^^ that's definitely not in the Black Hills. Canada? Montana? Wind River Range?
And how old is this mini-alpinist?
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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That is Wolfs Head and he was 13 I think at the time. I will say that is some great advice from Michael Kennedy. Jack helped me put a new route up on this wall last year.
http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Spire-4/t10809n.html here is a TR about our climbs together.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Great photos everyone, love the pictures of the little men! So many fond memories of days with my two boys, they grow up and become your rope gun!
You can climb as hard as your son just one day in your life.......this photo was a day well beyond that point at the top of Traveler's Buttress:
Missed this thread the first time around, thanks for the bump.
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Jun 25, 2017 - 06:18pm PT
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Sort of a shameless bump, but not really. I've been reflecting on how time flies, and how my own son now has a daughter who's just a little younger than he was when I first started taking him cragging. I see climbing in her future, too, though it could just be me!
So...in case you missed this thread, there are some fantastic contributions throughout. Check it out, and add your own!
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Jun 26, 2017 - 06:37am PT
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Smiling through the heat, bugs and tight shoe squeeze. We did a lot of lounging and beach time and that's just fine with me. This little dude is just a few weeks younger than this thread. God , I love this stuff!
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Jun 27, 2017 - 05:30am PT
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Look at the joy on those faces! That's what it's all about, man...
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Jun 27, 2017 - 08:03am PT
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Great thread. They grow up so fast.
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BigB
Trad climber
Red Rock
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Jun 27, 2017 - 08:20am PT
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My son Ayden leading in RR at age 12
Us together at a belay ledge
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Jun 27, 2017 - 08:58am PT
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^^^ That's what I'm talkin' about!
And here's a pic I took a couple of days ago of my son with his little one, Amelia:
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jun 27, 2017 - 09:51am PT
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jack leading the business on independence monument. He about fell off that one but found his inner Fred flinstone and got up it clean
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mooch
Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Kernville Annex)
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Jun 27, 2017 - 10:12am PT
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Sons Christian and Matt...
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jun 21, 2018 - 07:45am PT
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Just amazing and I'm totally jealous,
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 21, 2018 - 08:31am PT
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Do grandsons count?
With my grandson Henry in Cochise Stronghold last March.
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Jun 21, 2018 - 01:29pm PT
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donini: I'd say that's a big yes.
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SeaClimb
climber
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Jun 24, 2018 - 02:50pm PT
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My boy just graduated from high school this week. He’s off to utopia for the summer World Cups. Leaves Wednesday. I just cannot really fathom how fast time flies.
First pic is him climbing Taco Chips (13a) at age 10.[photo
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