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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 6, 2009 - 12:51pm PT
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I posted this on Stump the Chump post and thought if I made it its own post then maybe just maybe the remaining FFA can chime in? I'd love to hear of any story on this wall.
I'm not a good writer, but I hope you all can enjoy this short moment in time.
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Walleye, I climbed Mindahoonee with a buddy in 97. Great route. Some adventure for sure, but the climb overall was excellent in my book of wierdness.
What James was referring to was that Jake and I did Min-Ne-Ah. Just to the right of Yosemite Point Buttress. I had come out to Yos two years ago, out of shape and in need of a gun like Jake. He took the bait. As we were up on YPB we spied MNA, which from our vantage point looked beautiful and full of good cracks.
We pushed up YPB (my Dutch Lager busted in my camelback only after all the wide sh#t.!!) thinking about MNA. I talked Jake into doing it.
We took off super early and headed up the trail behind the stables, eventually reaching the Yosemite Point Couliar. We rapped into it, noticing that we could have scrambled out into it earlier. The mood instantly changed in the couliar.(sp?) It was cold and dark. It smelled different. It smelled like a cave. I stayed positive because, after all, Jake was going to get us up the thing.......right? He required a calming period. During which time I checked out the route as best I could. The first pitch was stellar looking!!!!! Fingers and hands. Cookie cliff good. Couldn't quite see the rest of the route, but I was positive.
Jake pepped up and won the flip for first lead.
Off he went shaking out his fear until realizing the climbing was awesome. He was happy again and ready for action. This climb is going to be splitter!!!!! Alright, my plan of getting a guide if necessary on Min-Ne-Ah was panning out. Jeez, at that point, with the approach I felt as though I had already done something substantial and the idea of a rope gun was more and more appealing.
I set off and did some jangy traverse right into grainy wideness that would end up characterizing the majority of the climb. Ropes end reached I set up a belay. Jake followed nicely and showed up realizing I may be off route. A small down traverse and he was back into the same grainy wideness, for a long way. I set off on even more wideness on the next pitch as well, but it soon turned into a memorable roofish move to 5.10 pumpfest. All hands to the anchor. I arrived torched. My lack of climbing for 6 months was catching up to me. Jake was only getting more into the groove and floating his way up.
Jake led us up another wideness pitch and I then led us up a moderate, wide pitch to the tops of the Rabbit Ears. Great hang, especially on a beautiful spring day as we had. The couliar curving down below. Lots of grainy and physical climbing to that point. Mostly wide and grainy. Going at Cosgrove/Shipley 5.8 or 9.
Looking up we saw simply ominous looking climbing. That giant roof at the top?! What on earth were we going to have to do to get through?
I set off on the first 11a pitch. I stemmed my way up grain past sh#t bolt to a good bolt to more SUPER SH#T BOLTS that appeared to be out of the rock by 1/4 or more of and inch out of the rock. They appeared to be origional aid bolts. Quite possibly placed well with erosion taking its toll around them. Well, they held my weight nontheless. I had had enough mentally at that point. A bulbousy lyback that was grainy as hell with those bolts defeated me. Reacehed the anchor above and humbly set my partial hanging belay below and extremely overhanging crack.
Jake fired up to me. Racked up and set forth on what has to be one of the best onsights I've witnessed and I've seen a few good ones.
To this point Jake was flawless. He made everything smooth. Even climbing that wasn't supposed to be so!!! This was different. White super grainy rock overhanging desperatly like a wave. he set forth and to our luck found good gear in the back of this absolute GRAINWAVE. He was showering me with so much rock I could have used that amount to gravel the average driveway. I could barely keep my eyes open enough to see him, but I had to. This performance was not to be missed. I had grain in my eyes for days.
Jakes dilemma was that he was at a spot that was quite hard. Very hard and stenuous. Cos/SHip 5.11D, grainy and full of mud and salad fixings. All the reason to call it and aid. Problem was the gear was as good as it gets, no matter what pitch you compare it to. It was solid in the back of that rattly offset think fingers thin hands crack.
He had no excuse. He had to go for it. Oh of which he did baby! The top of the crack is like a gaping v-slot. From my vantage point it looked as though it was over by then. Jake made noises i've never heard getting to that slot and once he started pullling into it I was full of joy and ease thinking he just sent the improbable. I threw words of encouragement and praise only to be interrupted with a shakey, yet very stearn, "Watch me BOB!!!!!!!!" I almost pissed myself.
He grunted through to the sloping ledge. I praised him. Laughing he said,"that's a pitch that 5.13 climbers barely onsighted when putting it up so they had to call it 5.11D".
I followed hanging multiple times and being totally blown away at how hard it remained up at the v-slot. IT was absolutely desperate, wet, full of veg in the back and had no gear at that point.
Next pitch was the bolt ladder. I relenquished my post and let The Gun take over. He walked up this 11c pitch littered with those bolts I spoke of before. It looked like 5.6. No kidding. He only paused long enough, half way to re-tie his shoe! But then he reached the slightly overhangingish wet, slimy ass crack ramp/squeeze thingy. He let out words of horror as he stood 40 feet above the last bolt, digging out moss, and rotten rock so he could get situated and not take a roaring ride of a tumbler. I remember feeling so fortunate not to be on lead at that point.
He got in the #6 and shimmed his way forth. I was probably sweating more than he.
Bobby J. was big walling at this point, supporting a mega free send by a buddie. Hand over hand and I was at the maw of a squeeze thingy. It was hard, wet and scary on TR.
Next I was off on some more wide, grainey sh#t that put me lying back a pinnacle of rock (or fin might be better) that "was breathing" as I yarded up it. Increased grain on the route at this point. Folks, this is saying a lot since the route was already bonified GRAINEY. We were in that really white rock. that would just fall apart.
Next Jake took off and a face traverse that was hard up to some more hard crack shtuff.
I was off after that up some wide sh#t, then cut it short because I just couldn't see what to do. I was done. My mind was just hanging on.
Has anyone here looked up right of YPB and seen the HUGE roof up high and right? There is a giant fin like feature that sticks out on the right end of it. Maybe this doesn't make sense. I had to try because the feature is SO COOL.
At the top of it all. Only two pitches left. Jake stepped left bridging this gap that is visible from the valley. Its very easy to see. What an ending. We could see the light and this move was exhilarating to say the least. We are tall and had very lttle trouble bridging the gap once our minds allowed us the privilage. Then.......yup, more wide ass grainy sh#t that was supposed to be 5.6, but was three letter grades harder. Last pitch was still wide grainy sh#t.
I forget how many pitches the climb was for us, but a lot I know for sure. We happily used a #6 Friend on all, but 1 pitch. I mean we were STOKED to have it. Very very much so.
An unbelieveable adventure this was. For both of us. Jake made it up without ever falling. We never had a lick of beta except looking over from YPB. We never talked to Coz and Ship is on another adventure. We couldn't find anyone who'd done it. It was truly impressive. I would never have been up there without that Mr. Whittaker.
Great job Cozgove/Shipley. Did you have any wide gear up there? Whoa! I would love to hear the story of that day sometime if you're ever up for it Scott.
Cheers to great adventures. Regardless of grain.
Bob j.
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drljefe
climber
Toostoned, AZ
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Cool story Bob.
Just remember, you're MY ropegun now.
jefe
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Great story, Bob - thanks for sharing!
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bob
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2009 - 02:21pm PT
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Thanks, and does anyone know anyone who's done it? I know Coz has done it!
Bob J.
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bob
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2009 - 10:54am PT
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I know I'm bumping my own thread, but I want to drag this lure in front of big fish Coz just incase he bites!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously though Coz, if you have even a smidgen(sp?)of time to write about the days adventure you had on this route, I'd love to hear. Hopefully others would too.
Bob J.
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JakeW
Big Wall climber
CA
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Yeah Bob, that was awesome! Bob pretty much hit all the details, except that he probably would have sent too, but he had the bad luck to get that bullsh#t, practically unprotected kitty litter lead. It was fun to follow.
The crux had a nice Jailhouse kneebar right where I was about to pump off!
Also, at the end of the bolt ladder pitch where I was at least 30 ft. above the last bolt on the slab, cleaning wet moss out of terrible cam pseudo-placements, there was still a bolt ladder off to the side...well, the holes at least. This was depressing, to have to f*#k around so much and fear for my life where the old dads were bolt laddering. A little re-engineering and replacing would go a long way towards making the route ultra-classic...grain...like J-tree!
Its a great feature of the Valley that I'd looked at for years, and was psyched to squeak through in perfect style, carrying my tennies, water, and clothes the whole way, except the slab, where Bob took my stuff since he'd switched to big wall aid mode. Too bad we had to aid the approach....
I'd love to hear the story too Coz! Its rad how many lines you and Shipley did...I always know where to turn when I want a REAL adventure...its kind of anxiety-ridden though, considering your guys' reputations!
Oh, and the bridging move Bob mentioned, in case no one got it, is hands on one wall and feet on the other, staring staight down at the stables...you probably don't have to do it that way, but its the easiest way and one of the coolest moves ever! You have to just stand there and then fall forward and stick your hands out...hopefully you don't come up short!
We emptied out handfulls of gravel from our pockets, packs, shoes, underpanties, ears, and makeup kit after we finished...literally like several pounds each, so maybe the route wasn't as hard as we thought.
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lucho
Gym climber
San Franpsycho
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"I'm not a good writer" he says. Dude you're an excellent writer!
Bob and Jake are those guys that most people outside of Yosemite hardly hear about because they never spray. So heres some spray for them they are badass! True modern day Yosemite hardmen. Always out there climbing everything from the obscure to the classic. I first met them five or six years ago in Tuolumne and have always looked up to those guys. They've been a great influence in my climbing mainly cause they're always out there having fun! On rest days and climbing days. Great partners, great people and great climbers.
If I remember correctly that same day Zach and I went up to do the Mindahoonee over by the falls which Bob had suggested to us. Thats the climb James mistook for the Min-Ne-Ah in the Stump the Chump post two completely different climbs.
Lucho
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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How about some photos from Xrez? I added a line on the first one, guessing from the topo.
without line
zoom on crux area, above "The Rabbit Ears"
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bob
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2009 - 04:56pm PT
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Nice Clint! Those are fun to look at for sure.
Go grain pile!
Bob J.
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scooter
climber
fist clamp
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What a good send. I am sure it was intense! Here are a few of the fellas in their natural environs.
Pat
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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A frikken men.
Bob and Jake have done all the stuff I've wondered about. Bulging Puke? Who's done that thing, let alone tried to free it?
As I get older, fatter, and whinier, it's good to see you guys are still looking for adventure. I still look for it and occasionally head out an try, but you have be pretty good to bite off more then you can chew. I just bite stuff these days, unless you count the little boy that Genevieve and I just had.
The little guy seems like a big adventure.
Anyway, Jake, Bob, and Pat- if you cruise through this way stop by. I might even have time to go do some bouldering.
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scooter
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fist clamp
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Tom-
Another generation of Woods to run around in the Sierra, that is great. I guess that is why I like it so much here, new good people to come. I will shoot you an email in Feb-March about the E.side. Congratulations!
Pat
(send me a picture)
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Dragon with Matches
climber
Bamboo Grove
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REAL adventure = going up a Cos-Ship obscuro with zero beta and sending in style.
Bob & Jake you guys are studs and Bob you really should write more, it's great stuff. See you guys this summer.
-matt
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
climber
the ground up
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Aticulate fellas . grainwave and underpanties
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bob
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 8, 2009 - 10:02am PT
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Nice Coz! Learn a little something new every day. Since the first time looking in the guide book that climb has been calling in some way shape or form. I'd get to that page and pause every time to look at it and imagine what it would be like to be up there. No stars, big route, two names attached for the FFA that seemed to match up to all the other no star big routes around the valley that just made it into the guide. The FFA names also matched up to many a story I'd hear of harrowing free climbing up not the most solid of stone. Affliction, etc..........yeah.
I look forward to some more tales. Thanks!
Bob J.
PS Frightening pics Pat.
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scooter
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fist clamp
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What is funny Bob is that you and Sean are looking WAY up and smiling. Do you think some TM style tree climbing is ensuing?HA! What other time in climbing do you yell at your buddy who is free soloing "GO FOR IT, yeah, yeah c'mon just do it dude"
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Pat
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bob
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 8, 2009 - 02:57pm PT
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Pat, where the hell do you get these pictures?!!? I've never laid eyes on any of them.
In Ptown. Drop me a line.
Bob J.
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scooter
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fist clamp
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Bob-
Maybe in the spring we should get 'afflicted' That is what I have been looking at for years and getting sweaty-palmed about. Maybe I could just come with you and Jake and shoot more secret photos and cry and hang up it. HA!
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Zander
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Great thread guys!
Thanks,
Zander
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bob
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 9, 2009 - 09:37am PT
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Thanks for sharing Coz. We kept wondering what you guys felt while up there. A number 4 friend eh? Yikes. Crazy how a freak show like that can turn into one of my fondest memories. Adventure sure has its place. With that said, I don't think Jake nor I would have gone up there if we'd known what was coming. Though, I guess maybe we had a hunch.
I love the name and have found myself saying it sometimes out of the blue. Doubt I'll go back.
Now "The Big Juan" on the other hand....................any comments?
Bob J.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nice contributions
I've looked over there from Yosemite Point Buttress (and a misadventure up West Arrowhead Chimney) and thought of how great it looked and how many routes might go there (all the while suspecting there must be a reason why not)
Peace
Karl
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Feb 20, 2009 - 04:12pm PT
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this needs more page views
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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Feb 20, 2009 - 04:16pm PT
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And to think, this thread was going at the same time as one asking "Are climbers as bold as they used to be?"
Go the Bob!
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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May 13, 2009 - 11:59pm PT
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Bump. I must have been on winter vay-cay when this made its first go-around. I'm glad I found it!
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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Apr 28, 2010 - 06:07pm PT
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BUMP for BobJ!
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Salamanizer
Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
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Apr 29, 2010 - 02:22am PT
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WOW! Sweet trip report.
I've taken a quick gander at that route and given it some consideration.
Hmmm, after the sounds of it... ???
I've got a list of to do's so long I'll never get to all of it and that one ain't high on the list you see.
Anyone ever climbed Blade Runner?
Anyone want to??
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bob
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2010 - 05:27am PT
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Sweet! 2:15 in the morning and I can't sleep so I come here and a grand memory is brought to my attention. Thanks Jefe!
Bladerunner? Caunt(gaunt?sp?)/Settlmeyer route goes up right of the Spire? Doesn't make it to the top, or does it? Yes, I want to do it. Looks great and is my style. When................who knows.
Glad this thread has been enjoyed. Hope more folks read it. Fun stuff.
Good night.
Bob J.
PS look in the upper right of that pic and one can make out the wave like feature we stemmed across. Wow!
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bob
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2010 - 12:27pm PT
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Coz, I think (could be wrong here) that some of the Montana boys have been up there. It may even be written about on ST. No se.
Patrick?
It does look great in the guidebook as well as when looking up or over at it. You guys were nutty fun lovers. You still are I imagine.
Peace!
Bob J.
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bob
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2010 - 03:23pm PT
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Bump so we might possibly get a Kingsbury montana dude to chime in on the Affliction.
Also this was just a great ass memory I want more to share it.
Bob J.
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Apr 30, 2010 - 12:48pm PT
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Pat may have been up that way but I didn't hear anything about it...sounds cool though!
Cheers!
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James
climber
My twin brother's laundry room
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Jul 17, 2010 - 12:14pm PT
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Full adventure!
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bob
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 11, 2012 - 07:34pm PT
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I just read this again. I have to bump this memory.
Bob J
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tarek
climber
berkeley
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Jun 11, 2012 - 08:03pm PT
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great read, thanks
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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BUMMMMPPPPPPP!!!!!!
You're a freak bro
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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amazing thread!
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nutjob
Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
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I remember reading about this a few years ago.Gnarly with a capital G!
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RP3
Big Wall climber
El Portal/Chapel Hill
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This account is spectacular! Thanks for posting!
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Jan 25, 2014 - 12:50am PT
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bump
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
sawatch choss
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Jan 25, 2014 - 12:01pm PT
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bobby j who could have foretold that you were in fact merely training for some Arkansas Valley choss! We should meet up in BV sometime and scrape out some cracks. RD
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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This is a REALLY good read.
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Alexey
climber
San Jose, CA
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it is very sad that we can not read Coz comments..
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Yes it is.
Too bad we can't petition the ethers to restore a few critical threads.
But you know what, all of this probably exists in the way back machine web search function?
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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But you know what, all of this probably exists in the way back machine web search function? I've already checked there - did not find it.
I think the reason I was able to use archive.org to find Scott's
Southern Belle story is that I had a link to its supertopo URL from one of my web pages.
This (2014) decision by supertopo to sometimes delete all of a user's posts is a very poor one.
Very disappointing and unexpected.
If I had thought they might do something like this, I would have saved all the good stuff when I first read it.
I did save Hank's Southern Belle story to my webpage, since it was so good I didn't want to risk it being lost....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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What a great write up!!
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Well, I've recently saved 109 of my threads as MHTML documents.
No, I didn't save this one, and scores of others. Besides recently saving everything that I created, I just did a few others randomly, back when the forum was really hopping.
That's how much I trust this website. I mean it's fun and stuff, but ... I started getting the feeling I better archive my work off-site.
I DID save the Southern Belle thread through post #177, made by Clint on April 10, 2009.
It clocks in around 5.5 MB. I think that could be a bit big to e-mail without compressing it into a zipped file or some such. But if anybody wants a copy, we could probably figure it out, by using Dropbox.
Here's an example.
A screenshot with Cosgrove's first long post:
And here is a screenshot of the last post from my MHTML archived thread:
(I think saving through that point in the discussion archived everything Scott posted to the Southern Belle thread)
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le_bruce
climber
Oakland, CA
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Good god almighty this is one of the best written accounts of a day of climbing on this site. Holy mole!
The mood instantly changed in the couliar.(sp?) It was cold and dark. It smelled different. It smelled like a cave.
Once I read that bit I was snapped in to the telling, right there with you guys and was taking the ride. Damn good stuff, Bob.
I hope your partner has read this, man. Your writing has frozen in amber one glorious performance in one glorious day in the history of obscure Valley climbing. Thanks for sharing!
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tronsite
Trad climber
CA
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Here's are some of Coz's posts from this topic. Let me know if you think any are missing.
coz
Trad climber
California
Jan 7, 2009 - 11:58pm PT
It was me and Walt who did the FFA, no time to read your story as I am dead tried and have to work about 20 hrs tomorrow. But I will and tell you about our adventure. We name it after Virginia Parker, a native american women who was a great friend to us.
It was her native name and you could see the climb from her house.
coz
Trad climber
California
Jan 8, 2009 - 01:30pm PT
I remember we did the thing in a day, starting about 5 am out of Walt's van. I led a couple pitches in a row and walt led up to that old bolt. I took over and led that 11d pitch, and belayed and then Walt lead the bolt ladder. He went left at one point and found a hard move or two.
I do remember it being really grainy and feeling lost up there. It was a grand adventure and one of those many crazy climbs with Walt. I was always wanting to climb that wall as it looked a lot better from the ground.
It kick my ass, as it was our first climb that spring. Good job on what probably was the second ascent. I can't for the life of me remember if we had wide gear, all I know is we where both real good on wide back then and probably only had a four friend.
It was a beautiful place to be. I talk to TM Herbert, and he said, "Why the hell'd you go up there for." LOL I love TM, anyone know what's up with him?
coz
Trad climber
California
Apr 29, 2010 - 09:19am PT
If you guys are looking for another crazy route, check out the Affliction on the North Face of Higher. The first four are very rad as I recall. One pitch is overhanging and your lay backing up four giant stacked blocks. Don´t fall!
The upper part is great, sporting an 11a OW, 11c fist and a hard boulder problem off a ledge. All capped by a huge roof, that ends the climb.
It was another Walt adventure, done the same week as Mi-ne-ah.
I am sure it would go all free at mid 12, hint hint FFA.
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Nick Danger
Ice climber
Arvada, CO
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Dood, ewe right gud, pleez dew moore. Seriously, this TR is great prose and a wonderful way to spend some quality daydreaming time. thanks for posting up.
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bob
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2017 - 05:54pm PT
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Bump for a nice memory and climbing content.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Welcome to the forum Tronsite! Excellent job with your first post.
How did you accomplish the retrieval of Scott's deleted contributions?
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E Robinson
Trad climber
Salinas, CA
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Awesome read of wild climbing. Makes me want to go out and have another adventure. Thinking of both Coz and Walt now.
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