Heres what works better than a poop tube i thought-
to poo:
best be on a ledge but a portaledge would work too, just be acurate- duct tape some some butcher paper down (double up if its gonna be huge) and go for it. Put all the toilet paper and stuff on top of the mess. then wrap it up like a burrito and use the duct tape to keep all the folds in place. Drop it into a ziploc bag and seal it. Then drop the ziploc with its new deposit into a dry bag with kitty litter it it. Keep some hand sanitizer on hand. The dry bag is the way to go-lighter and not nearly as big and clunky as the poop tube.
The plastic grocery bags work great. The handles pull right up over the buttocks, providing a good seal and weigh next to nothing. Easy enough to do mid-pitch too if ya have to. Make sure there are no holes in them!
Do your business, wrap it burrito style, and toss it into a section of the lightest weight corrugated PVC pipe you can find. A 2' section of 3" with one end cap glued on, (the removable end cap should be teathered to your toob) worked fine for a party of 2 for 5 days with room to spare.
YMMV! Better to have a little extra room at the end of the trip than to not have enough!
My only was was leaning tower and we did that in a day so i have never had the pleasure of using a poop tube, but i am curious about one thing. if i'm taking a leak while i take a dump, how am i gonna do that and not sh#t or pee all over my portaledge? is there some kind of trick? just wonderin'...
Some people don’t even need to sh-it on walls. They wait till they top out. When me and the deuce did the P.O. John never sh-it until the top. Now that’s what I call a real BURT BRONSON.
I think Mike makes the best tube I've seen/used. I know it's not top secret info but I can't remember what the piece he uses for a top is called??.......Mike? ......There is a climber out there who ties a piece of twine to the bottom of his bag and by the end of a route has about 20' of sh#t bags (one every 2 to 3 feet). This does not seem to be the better way but who am I to judge. Ha! Cheers!
Plastic grocery bags - doubled up if need. A small bungy cord attached to each handle and wrapped over the waist. With that you'll have both hands free! It works.
Don’t hang those things in the sun for a year…..true story.
Once someone hung one of these poop tubes on the fence at the Sar Cache. It was there for over a year. One day it exploded violently spewing it’s deadly contents all over the yard. I had to get the hazmat suit, gas mask and fire hose to clean up the sh-it!
Another time someone left one over by the outhouse at ranger rock. They labeled it BOMB. The bomb squad from Fresno had to come to defuse it. The park was taking no chances with how the current world in it’s volatile state can be.
"Some people don’t even need to sh-it on walls. They wait till they top out. When me and the deuce did the P.O. John never sh-it until the top. Now that’s what I call a real BURT BRONSON."
Haa haa, Austin did the same thing. It was like 6 days.... or something. I kept asking him, "Son, are you sure you don't need to go today?"
The second we were standing on the rim, I turned around just in time to see Austin's harness fly into the bushes as he ran into the trees. LOL
hey Werner, can't believe you remember that!! Of all things.
I think we fired up that route (the PO) so fast--wasn't it 4 days, 3 nights, no fixing--that there wasn't time to squat! I'm sure it was a good one on top though.
Speaking of modern methods, the chemical bags Metolius is marketing (the "WAG" bags)are a nice way to go for less smelly poop tubes. Pricely though...
Bruthers, puh-lease--PVC tubes are so (early)90s. They're bulky, heavy and often cannot be coaxed from the summit.
Dry bags where an improvement. They weigh a lot less but unfortunately wear holes pretty easy on lower-angle routes(anything but the southeast face/leaning tower/right side of half dome). Some proud folks avoid this problem by putting them right in the haulbag--sounds dicey.
The best budget idea I've seen in the last couple years is a large plastic laundry detergent bottle with the spout cut out(don't remove the threads that hold on the cap), the handle takes a shoulder-length sling easy. The only bummer is you still have to handle your load pretty intimately to roll a burrito that fits in the spout.
If you've got a few bucks the Metolius wastecase is the way to go. It weights nothing and the larger opening means you can crush your cans and have most if not all of your trash and poop in one, haulbag stength, bag.
Doubling up the plastic grocery bags is the way to dump it--the latest research shows that paperbags in landfills do not show any more decomposition than plastic bags after 45 years. As for the peeing and pooping at the same time--if you hang your money over the edge of the ledge you can have your poop bags sucked up tight and still send the shower at the same time.
I used a freezer strength ziplock bag with a cool easy zipper thingamajigger. I've heard about using empty 2 liter soda bottles and cutting a V in it to put in the contents then duct taping it shut. I've never tried it though.
Carrying a poopy dry bag down from the summit is grim duty. They may be waterproof, but they're 'breathable'.
However, they are cheap and easy to come by, so I can get a freshy each time if I want.
Having a poop vessel with too small of a mouth means you'll have to force your morning gnarliness through. This is really unpleasant. (i.e. pay attention to this when picking out your detergent if you go that route). Similar unpleasantness happens if it's too low volume.
I got paid 30 buck to tell stories at Cafe du Nord in San Francisco last time this topic came up. A woman was googling for people who camped in unsual places to perform at their story telling club and thought the topic would be a crowd pleaser. Actually, when she explained that I was supposed to talk about camping on the rock I started pitching all of the starndard stories of big wall suffering...forced bivies, partner melt down, dehydration, etc. And she said, "All that's fine, but can you talk about crapping in a bag?"
Pretty much every slide show I ever did on big wall climbing, either the first or one of the early questions after the show would be, "how do you go to..", well you know.
Sometimes I thought if I could just wow the audience further with beautiful images of mountain views, exotic places, or local colorful people, I could avert the question, but no, never did.
re: slitting a two-liter open and taping it close. Nope. Tried it on one looooooong wall. Actually wasn't that long, just seemed it. Even with serious amounts of duckie on there, those puppies like to burp.
I swear I'm coming full circle back to the Austin method, which I used like all rooks. Just clench down until you hit flat ground, whenever that happens. It's free, too.
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Sharing the ledge with a girl/guy party was totally cool. It however crossed into awkward zone when the girl part of the team (her first big wall) proceeds to ask us how in fact we will take a doo doo. I point to my poop tube and explain the details by going over to the haul bolts and doing my business.
She promptly asks us if she could use our tube once we start climbing. We wait for the look that tells you it is a joke…however…no luck. She is dead serious. She even dares to ask for wet wipes.
So I say that if she uses it…she needs to haul it down and empty it. That’s the rules. At this point she also confirms that when we descend to the base, that our Gatorade we stashed is no longer there. I ask if the birds got to it. Nope. This “bird” decided that she was thirsty after the approach and finished. Again…I waited for a chuckle. Nope. Talk about party foul....
(FURTHER DOWN TRIP REPORT)
Also…after emptying the poop tube at the Church Bowl latrines, I discovered a “second” deposit. I ask my buddy whether he had a go up on the column. He says no way. Well, if I went and he didn’t go…who could it be?
BUDGET JOHN FROM FISH
This is the low cost solution but has vent holes...so you get intimate with the bouquet. Not super heavy.
SHORT STACKS
I have seen some people use a short stack tube. It looks like it is at least 8 inches in diameter and maybe 8 inches in height with a screw cap. It sits nicely out of the way under a bag. good for 3-4 big boys. PRobably not so cheap to make since the diameter is pretty serious.
DRY BAG
I have tried the dry bag thing. Like Melissa said...it BREATHES. Never expected it to either. Lightweight...but stinky
ODORS
The best way in my opinion to keep odors to a minimum is double bag and using lots of dry washing powder. A couple of shakes (just like shake and bake) of the poo will give a fine coating. Pre-mix in a little bit of oxiclean/borax and you be golden.
BIGGEST PARTY FOUL
Molding your goods and then stuffing it into the tube and having the paper bag break....
Awesome
They have some enzymes which takes care of the smell. You can actually safely carry a used one in the lid of your pack/haulbag without leaks or smells.
I think that you could get some of that 8" diameter or larger for free if you are near the valley. They are laying some new sewer pipe so I am sure that if you came across the dumpster that they are pitching all the cut ends from the piping you could get your hands on a free body for your commode. Now the part about sealing the ends.. that might be tricky. The piping looks like a soft grade pvc (black with blue striping.
I use dry bags. The "Burritos" are freezer ziplocks, with dry portable toilet chemical to help with aroma control. Burritos are then deposited in Reynolds aluminum foil baking bags. The problem with any plastic bag is that thin plastic is readily permeable to the gasses that give burritos their unique bouquet.
I once got paid to write a review of the Metolius waste case, not a bad product, pricey but does a good job... I guess that makes me a professional crapper...
Not sure if someone has mentioned the water bottle method:
Crap in a paper bag, then slit an empty two liter water bottle and stick your bag of business in the bottle. As you move up the wall you'll have more emties to fill as you drink more water. Duct take up the slit, and carry the collection under your haul bag. Don't have to carry an extra container. Careful on lower angle routes (don't want the duct tape to ware off). Back on the ground it's easy to slice off the tops and dump the contents of each bottle into a pit toilet.
-Link
PS: From an "official" perspective (NPS policy), we don't require one specific method. Do whatever works for you as long as it leaves nothing behind (side note: someone did actually get a citation for tossing their crap last summer). Don't try and burn your bags on the summit either (for a variety of reasons), and out of respect for others try not to piss on the route. God, this all makes wall climbing sound like so much fun... :)
Remember - the huge clunkie PVC Poop Tubes are NOT esential...
Use a boaters DRY BAG!
Size? A week on the wall or one night?
Before you leave the ground, add a little kitty litter to the bottom of the bag.
As part of your sh#t-tools extras, carry a little plastic bottle of CAT BOX baking soda mix. Sprinkle some in your poo-poo bag after wiping. Tripple bag your dookies (thin grocery store bags are fine, they compress well and you can carry a huge volume of 'em). Keep the air out! It keeps the package small.
Close the DRY BAG properly - Roll the edges down an clip it shut.
Toss this right in the haul bag.
Add coffee grounds as you progress. Mostly, it smells like the cat litter powder.
Y'all must like the smell of crap if you're still using poop tubes, dry bags, or rolling your poo into burritos. The most efficient way I have found is the BIG WALL PAUL METHOD:
1. Poop into a plastic bag (ziplock or grocery bag)
2. Put used TP into same bag
3. Put bag into empty tin can (12 oz can works fine for most- if you take huge dumps you may want to use a 16 or 18 oz can)
4. Fold the lid over the can then duct tape the top
5. Toss in the bottom of the haulbag and forget about it
6. At the base or when you get home just throw the whole can in the trash. Don't even think about removing the poo to recycle the can.
I've heard some people say you can't throw poo in the trash because it's hazzardous. Hogwash. Ever heard of disposable diapers? How 'bout depends for old folks who have lost bowel control. They all go into the trash but without the armor of the can.
Real benefits of the BWP Method:
1. You don't carry any extra weight since you already have empty food cans lying around in the haulbag.
2. You don't have to smell your partners (or your own) festering 4 day old turds every time you open the poop tube or dry bag.
3. You don't have to deal with the awful task of emptying the poop tube. Again: who wants to smell week old oven baked crap?
One time I was gearing up in the Awahnee lot and I was almost knocked over by a wave of nasty poo smell. Turns out some folks had opened their poo tube 300 YARDS AWAY.
4. There's no chance of a tube or dry bag getting stuck stuck while hauling since the cans stay at the bottom of the pig.
Three years ago I came down from a wall mid-summer and just threw the haulbag in the trunk and drove quickly out of the valley for work. I never got around to unpacking the pig, so it just sat in my trunk for three weeks in 100 degree San Jose weather. When I finally got around to it, I emptied the contents and found some moldy bagels and all the poop cans- and no smell.
There's just no reason to use a poop tube. Maybe people like to carry it around as a badge of honor?
Ouch does it again. A little modern marvel will take care of all of our business. I think you guys and gals got it all wrong though. When I was up climbing near Moby Dick I spied the best method of all. Lying there right on the ground. Get an extra large paper sack and take an ENORMOUS really wet dookie in it. Next pitch it off the wall so that all the slacker one pitch climbers will know your the king, leaving them all behind somewhere up on the big stone.
"Another time someone left one over by the outhouse at ranger rock. They labeled it BOMB. The bomb squad from Fresno had to come to defuse it. The park was taking no chances with how the current world in it’s volatile state can be. "
" I have to say, that is some funny sh#t. "
There is a little more to the story as I recall. I was there and heard the blast - they detonated the thing after x-raying it and finding "peanuts".
I think ABS is significantly lighter than PVC, but the black color may be a bad thing for a sh#t tube.
My cheap option of choice: get a bulk food container from a store like Costco that is over a foot tall and has at least 4" diameter opening and a lid that screws tight. Usually these containers have Biscotti, Pretzles, Candy, etc in them
Now, imagine you were sewing webbing to create a haulbag. Make a harness for the container just like that. Secure with duct tape.
Pros: lightweight, cheap, can haul outside of haulbag, minimal assembly, seals tight
Cons: takes time to find container, some assembly, lose lid halfway up wall and you are hurting.
As for the bag set up: go in a big zip lock bag. add powdered detergent. Double zip lock if necessary
I haven't tried it, but my first wall partner advocated using a piece of thin (1/8"?) bungie with a couple hooks with the plastic shopping bags. Hands free operation.
Mike Ousley's Poop Tube above is as close to what I use as anyone described..
The plumbers test cap rig is re-usable even after the tube itself has seen too many walls and wall waste... Toss the tube, and the rest is a keeper..
For the solution to the pee Question, I have a double solution:
That magic powder inside the Wag Bag, is called "Pooh powder" google it.. you can buy a Giant can of it for like 30$ and it will last a life time (just keep it dry) its like magic dust.. I have So much and would gladly pass some on.. but the amount in one wag bag is half of waht you need, so make a second bag from the stash you skimmed from the official one..
The stuff; for those that don't know; will gel up and coat your pooh - and turn it into a 'not so stinky' mass of gel covered pooh - it really cuts the stench - a lot more than cat litter.. (i actually in a 'pinch' re-used the same garbage bag for a four day wall - it wasn't too wretched even on the last day...) Just a tablespoon is enough for a real heavy load..
The trick to the powdah - is a little liquid to activate it..
Use some pee from your Pee Bottle (see below)
Here comes the pee part..
I normally tie off my water bottles with a string of sorts, as most probably do to some of their bottles at least.. (i reuse my tie offs every wall; they has a slip knot on one end and a overhand on a bight on the other..) - just clip an empty one (now its your pee bottle) - the people below you will love it.. and, on a windy day you will too! - preferably its a wide mouth gatorade style.. (sorry ladies - you can use a F.U.D. with a modified longer tube - feminine urinary director - REI sells 'em)
So clip the bottle to your belay loop and insert your shmackle into the wide mouth.. Use your grocery bag/paper bag of choice and pee whenever you like... 'hands free'
if you really want hands free - clip the handles of your grocery bag to your gear loops, and you have both hands to read the paper... no sh*ttin!
I should have handed you some that day you me and the McNeely Bros were partying at the base of the waterfront.. its me Adam - the dreddy dude that was soloing Zodiac with the bottle of Peppermint Schnapps..
The stuff is Rad - and I always have extra - since it comes in a GIANT Jar... I hope to enough time sh*tting on the wall to use it all !!
I just googled it and I guess the price of 'pooh'ing has gone up.. its like $77 for the can.. they state 120 uses - I say maybe more if you really spread it out..
I am with Chris on reusing large food containers.
I love empty drink mix containers.
Pre-climb, I duct tape the thing to travel under my hail bag. It stays inside my bag until then. If I have some old sling or cord I'll add that to the attachment system. A word on pee bottles: I buy some liter and a half H2O bottles at Trader Joe's. Then duct tape hang loops onto them using the bare minimum of tape. The first bottle that gets emptied gets the top sliced off and becomes the girlie pee bottle. It conforms nicely and rides below the bag after it's first use. The rest of the bottles are easy to roll up and store in the bottom of the haul bag.
I have tried using only doubled up ziplock bags for poop storage.
(Just couldn't see spending money on a nice dry bag then throwing it away.)
The smell was just too darned nasty.
However, the WAG BAGS that are required on Mt.Whitney are fine.
I just don't think they are tough enough on technical rock.
And again, I hate spending money on something I look forward to throwing away.
Another thing I sometimes take on the wall is the Freshette! Ah the freedom of peeing standing up! I keep it in a ziplock bag, stowed inside a small stuff sack, clipped to my harness. With this thing, it is easier to avoid peeing on the ropes.
Long time troller in this forum, finally decided to make a post when i noticed that this thread ranks on Google's first page when you search for 'make a poop load'.....
don't judge... how i found it was jokingly searching for 'make a poop load of money'..... #1 again. :)
haha http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=make+a+poop+load&btnG=Search
orange juice h2o bottles...once empty....cut a door, poop into a wag bag or equivelant...stuff it into the bottle, gorilla tape it shut and then haul ass before the smell cathes up w/ you. In my limited experiance the smell will escape after 3 days. we also hung them under the haul bag so a fair amount of jostling was endured...
I use the giant plastic protein bottles or general nutrition suppliment bottles.
-WIDE mouth opening
-screw tight lid
-light
a touch of cat litter is keen, but used coffee grounds work awesome.
But then those who know me think I climb too fast to know about these things. - I have served my time, -and can tell you from MANY TRIPS up the Captain that most virgin wall climbers go 48 hours before pooping, so if it's a short ascent bring a small poop holder.
Poop Tubes, Turd Cages, Coiler Cans – Your Step By Step Guide
It is essential to poo in a bag then carry it to the summit. Pooing in bags and tossing them or just pooing on the wall is not an option. The is nothing worse than being on the best climb in the world (The Nose) and coming across splattered crap.
Step 1 – Go in a bag. There are a few variations:
a) Buy a disposable waste bag ($3-4 each). Sealable plastic bags that come with an odor killing powder, TP, hand sanitizer.
b) Make your own: go in brown paper bag (lunch size or giant) go in a large Ziploc bag go in a small brown bag then put it in a large Ziploc bag
Its nice to have some powder laundry detergent or kitty litter to then sprinkle on the poo to knock down the odor. Or prepage your bags with powdered detergent and “shake n’ bake.”
Step 2 – put the bag in a sturdy turd cage
Here a few options for how to carry the poo to the summit (AND BACK DOWN!).
Metolius Waste Case - Best Option
A mini-haulbag designed for turds that comes with 6 Wag Bags
Pros: lightweight, can haul outside of haulbag, doesn’t require assembly
Cons: cost $59.50, can’t get completely airtight seal
Bulk Container - Best Option on a budget
get a bulk food container from a store like Costco that is over a foot tall and has at least 4" diameter opening and a lid that screws tight. Usually these containers have Biscotti, Pretzles, Candy, etc in them. Now, imagine you were sewing webbing to create a haulbag. Make a harness for the container just like that. Secure with duct tape. A keeper string so you don’t lose the lid is optional. Or bring and extra lid in case you drop one.
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, minimal assembly, seals tight
Cons: takes time to find container, some assembly, lose lid halfway up wall and you are hurting.
PVC Tube - Fish Big Wall John
4-inch PVC tube, seal one end and use a screw cap at the other end. (see Mike.’s post above for more details on construction)
Pros: sturdy, can haul under bag, airtight seal: good at keeping down odor, cheap
Cons: heavy, requires some time to assemble and hardware store visit, have a habit of being abandoned mid route or on summit
Or you can buy save the hassle and buy one pre-made by Fish - Fish - Big Wall John
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Painters Bucket
Take a 5 gallon or smaller painter bucket, improvise a harness system and either poo directly into the bucket or go in bags and then store them in the bucket.
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Cons: tricky to rig a good harness, bulky on the hike down, hard to maintain air tight seal, lose the lid and you are screwed!
River Bag/ Dry Bag
Pros: lightweight, relatively easy to find, air tight (depending on who you talk to)
Cons: can’t haul outside of haul bag or lower-angle rock so you have to deal with it every time you unpack and repack bag, while a good bag won’t leak feces – the odor may leak out, air tight (depending on who you talk to), not that much cheaper than Metolius Waste Case
2-Liter Bottles
Crap in a paper bag, then slit an empty two liter water bottle and stick your bag of business in the bottle. As you move up the wall you'll have more emties to fill as you drink more water. Duct take up the slit, and carry the collection under your haul bag. Don't have to carry an extra container. Careful on lower angle routes (don't want the duct tape to ware off). Back on the ground it's easy to slice off the tops and dump the contents of each bottle into a pit toilet.
Pro: cheap and easy to make, great for "in a pinch"
Con: not good for low angle routes, takes lots of duct tape to get secure seal, must be very careful they don't separate from haulbag
Step 3
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Step 4
When done with wall and you have returned to the ground, dispose of brownpaper bags in pit toilet. The sooner the better!! If you went in a plastic bag, Restop, or WagBag, dispose of in garbage can or dumpster.
I avoid the bulky, heavy poop-tube all together. It seems as though there's a certain level of fecalphobia amongst wall climbers. A very simply and lightweight way to deal with poop on the wall is to bring one wagbag which can work for one person for three or four days. use the wag bag and store in an empty 2 liter soda bottle used for water. After a two liter is empty, cut it in half, store the wag bag inside and then duck tape the bottle back together. I then simply store this inside the haul bag (of course away from any food). This has worked great for me. The benefits are: no added weight and no bulky tube dangling from the bottom of the haul bag. Sometimes I think folks like geeking out on fancy poop-tubes which simply seems more complex and heavy than necessary. One exception: If I were on a wall for more than four days I might go with the tube. However, you could simply take another wag bag and use another empty 2-liter.
Here's a question for the ladies to answer. How do you pee without taking your harness and pants off? are there Big Wall pants out there with a butt flap?
Paaul: My wife likes to use one of these. http://www.freshette.com/
She can write her name in the snow just like we can. It also makes it so she can pee in a bottle with a small mouth if she needs to.
That reminds me of when I used to be a river guide in the Grand Canyon.
The current sh#t can system is pretty clean sanitary and straight forward.
When I was there we had a 50 mil ammo can, which we would double line with trash bags, then balance a toilet seat on top. Our instructions to the passengers was to pee first, either in the river or a coffee can which would then be dumped into the river, then take a dump in the can, wipe, and sprinkle with powder bleech. The next morning our job would be to compress all the air out of the sh#t bags and transfer them to a 20 mil Ammo can. We called it sucking the air out of the bag. It was usually dripping wer with piss, and stunk really really bad. One guide would get a mega gag reflex any morning he had the job. Ahhhhh the good old days!
Did not read any of this but please, don't make a poop tube. They just end up broken with poop everywhere.
Consider instead a waste case or a clean mountain can. Poop tubes are a pain to deal with and not reliable to stay intact when hauling.
I used to use my water bottles, but they have failed, including almost landing on two people at the base one time. Not worth it and frankly I got tired of "Playing with the poo" to squeeze it into the opening before duct taping it back up.
I use wag bags and use them at least four times before switching to a new one. They are rated for many uses and I don't want to carry tons nor do I really like the idea of the plastic so I try to use as few as possible to reduce the impact a little there.
i am very sorry but the best method for the environment and weight to carry is:
shit in a paper bag and throw it as far from the wall as you can, paper is degradable and so is sh#t, the bag will land somewhere in the woods and maybe in about a year will be completely gone.
sorry if what i am saying is stupid, i am not a big wall climber, i am a beginner climber from europe
yeah, you're right, i figured that out after i posted, it would be so not cool to do what i just described in places like Yosemite. sorry people, thanks for the feedback :)
My poop tube is an old ProteinPowder jar. the opening is about 6 inches in diameter. Solid built. Tight, twist seal on the lid. Holds the smell really well.
I got hit with a bag while on the Nose in Aug 2003 by a team of Spaniards. Having your ropes covered in Euro poo while on a wall is no fun.
I got pissed off enough that I almost caught up to them. I went and looked for them at camp 4 later and some of thier buddies figured out by my questions who I was.
"you are the guy who was hit with the sh#t HA HA HA... that is really funny"
"no they aren't here anymore, they are out climbing"....
none of them would be a man and fess up and it wouldn't have right to return a paper plate full of the favor onto a randon tent of spaniards.
Please understand, the rules about packing out your waste isn't just another annoying park service regulation like out of bounds bivying and food storage for bears...This rule is a part of the social compact amoungst wall climbers. Please be a good embassador when you visit our country and our walls.
Jace here bumping everybody's favorite topic with a question!
How long would you make a 4" wide poop tube. 4 days/3 nights and two guys? Mike's post up top makes it sound like 3' is the way to go but that seems a little large. Better have the space and not need it than need it and not have it?
Well first you have to have the right consistency of poo. Then you roll it out like a pie crust with a bakery roller and roll that into a toob. Easy peezy cheezy. Now did you see where Mythbusters proved you can polish a turd?
I was once stopped at the register while purchasing the components to build a poop tube. The manager was called over. I was interrogated with the assumption that I was building some type of pipe bomb. They pretty much decided I was building some type of bomb without ever asking me what I was assembling. I will never forget the expression on the employes face when I told them what I was doing.
If you or someone you know is in the medical field they can get their hands on some suction canister solidifier. Turns liquids to solids and sanitizes it in the process. Poop then add some in the poop tube - actually peeing in the tube some helps. Turns everything into a solid, sanitized mass. Your poop tube / container should be disposable.
It was at Mcguckins in Boulder too. I was really surprised that they did had not seen a poop tube before. Granted this was 20 years ago. Sir....I plan on pooping in a paper bag and then placing said poop bag in this tube. The dudes look was priceless and I think he thought I was the crazy one.
Mac is on the money.........some containers are wide enought to drop it right in........ don't forget to add something to keep the furmantation down...like r v blue stuff or others mentioned above.....peanut butter or mayo in the large size have a large lids .........do wrap plenty of duct tape around container
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