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seamus mcshane
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 21, 2008 - 08:45pm PT
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Guys, help me with this picture please.
Who's in this picture?
Who took the shot?
What year do you suspect it was taken?
How much 'cid does it take to look like this?
Thanks for your help!!!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 21, 2008 - 08:49pm PT
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With the thread title I thought the pic would be a ewe.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 21, 2008 - 08:59pm PT
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piton, piton.......: ]
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seamus mcshane
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 21, 2008 - 09:01pm PT
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Feel better Ron? This is just for ewe.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jul 21, 2008 - 09:09pm PT
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Is that Bachar with a nut coming out of his nostril?
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Jul 21, 2008 - 09:15pm PT
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Kevin nailed it Jack, RK JP and Werner Eldo'76. . .been looking at way to many old photos latley. . .DF
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 21, 2008 - 09:17pm PT
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Blinny, I'm still with you. I'd bet the farm....although with our H2O crisis I had to cut down most of the trees.
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graham
Social climber
Ventura, California
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Jul 21, 2008 - 09:19pm PT
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too funny!
I thought that was you for a second Kevin
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
hopping on a moonshadow
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Jul 21, 2008 - 09:28pm PT
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look at wonder's hair!!! i love it.
this pic is classic. why couldn't i have been around in the sixties wtf
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 21, 2008 - 09:44pm PT
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If Werner, in the blue shorts, he was way ahead of his time...sporting a flavor saver on the lower lip...way to go.
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
hopping on a moonshadow
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Jul 21, 2008 - 09:58pm PT
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i did not notice that LOL!
i thought the two pairs of shorts were pretty funnay tho
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jul 21, 2008 - 10:55pm PT
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Those guys were in Eldo in '76? WHEN?
We wuz like two ships passin' in da fog.
I guarantee I wouldn't climb wit dat nut!
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Double D
climber
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Jul 22, 2008 - 12:33am PT
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Pettigrew and Warner...that's a given. JB and RK? Wow, I just don't remember Ron ever looking any different than even current pictures. Maybe me memory is shorting out mates.
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pimp daddy wayne
climber
The Bat Caves
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Jul 22, 2008 - 12:45am PT
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That f*#king picture is AWESOME!!!
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 22, 2008 - 12:47am PT
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That was my camera that took that picture as I remember.
I have the original here on a slide.
It's Bachar, Kauk, Pettigrew and me .... in Eldo of course.
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Double D
climber
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Jul 22, 2008 - 12:50am PT
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Cool!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 22, 2008 - 01:53am PT
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WBraun, according to some I should shay away. However I still find it hard to identify the blonde dude on the left. Knees just not right.
Werner .... LOF ...the food catchers are the latest dude. You are a leader.
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Anastasia
climber
Not there
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Jul 22, 2008 - 02:04am PT
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Lynne,
That guy on the left is Bachar, I know this since Bachar keeps a copy of this picture on his fridge.
AF
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dolomite_said
Boulder climber
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Jul 22, 2008 - 03:00am PT
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Kauk and Bachar do better being seriously kick-ass not comical . Kauk with his cowboy boots and Bachar in a "wife-beater" or even when wearing a neckbrace was still intimidating .
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Dragon with Matches
climber
Bamboo Grove
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Jul 22, 2008 - 03:05am PT
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What got climbed?
Wisdom?
Awesome photo.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 22, 2008 - 03:07am PT
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hey there all.... so its the "ol' window in time" now, is it... :)
... oh, you guys...
thanks for the fun, at looking back... say, pics like that make interesting conversations pieces on the front room mantles, did you know?
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Anastasia
climber
Not there
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Jul 22, 2008 - 03:54am PT
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I love this picture for it shows a very special moment in their lives...
It was a time when climbing for them was more about playing on the rock with their friends than impressing the climbing world, getting sponsorships, arguing over ethics, etc. This picture shows them when they were really happy without the problems of the world on top of them. Metaphorically, it is the time before Eve ate the apple and got everyone kicked out of Eden.
AF
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Jim E
climber
Mountain Road
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Jul 22, 2008 - 11:18am PT
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"I love this picture for it shows a very special moment in their lives...
It was a time when climbing for them was more about playing on the rock with their friends than impressing the climbing world, getting sponsorships, arguing over ethics, etc. This picture shows them when they were really happy without the problems of the world on top of them. Metaphorically, it is the time before Eve ate the apple and got everyone kicked out of Eden."
Dead on AF!!!
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graham
Social climber
Ventura, California
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Jul 22, 2008 - 11:41am PT
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So true Anastasia
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bachar
Gym climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Jul 22, 2008 - 12:17pm PT
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Warbler got it.
I think Paul Sibley clicked the picture at the base of the Bastille Crack in Eldo. Me and Kauk had hitch hiked to Colorado. I forgot how Pettigrew and Braun got there. Werner rode freight trains back to Yosemite!
Cheers, JB
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jul 22, 2008 - 12:34pm PT
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what anastasia said. that was exactly what i had in my mind when i saw that pic, but she articulated it better than i ever could.
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 22, 2008 - 02:36pm PT
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I had a pack and a haul bag.
I'd run and throw the haul bag on the train first and then grab on and climb aboard with my pack on.
Not so hard, even a hobo can do it .....
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Jul 22, 2008 - 02:38pm PT
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I still see folks hitching up here, in the summer. Suprisingly this summer there have been less then previous years. I guess the economy is even hitting those traveling super saver class.
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Roman
Trad climber
Boston
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Jul 22, 2008 - 02:45pm PT
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Absolute badasses.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 22, 2008 - 03:13pm PT
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Gezzzz, ekat, what a sheltered life I've led. Gonna have to work hard this next year to make up for it..... lrl
"I think I hear my train acomin'"
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jul 22, 2008 - 04:47pm PT
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our trick was to buy thick surplus coveralls before we went on the bindlestiff. it was nice to jump off the train at your destination, take the filthy coveralls off, wash your face, and you were good to go. one time we were hopping freights from seattle to the tetons and we had one coverall that had "frank" monogrammed on it, and another had "todd." we modified them so they read "rank" and "odd".
the hobos in the yards got a huge kick out of that.
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Jello2
climber
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Jul 22, 2008 - 05:11pm PT
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The guy on the left looks much more like Warbler, than JB. Is this some sort of test? I remember them dudes in them days and it looks like Kevin, not John. But maybe it's the stopper in the nose thing that's confusing me.
-Jello
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Jello2
climber
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Jul 22, 2008 - 05:40pm PT
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You could be right, Kevin. I'm too confused to remember. I do remember great times, though.
-EldoJello
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jul 23, 2008 - 02:11am PT
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Yep...Now that's a classic shot to be sure!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 23, 2008 - 02:31am PT
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yeah, well I'm still not so sure ekats first response isn't correct and jello may not be confused. Look at those mischievous grins...those dudes haven't changed...who be the fools and who be doing the fooling...?
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jul 23, 2008 - 09:52am PT
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Hey Werner
Did you ever run into any bada$$es on the trains?
I hear now there are like hells angels types who
gang up on hobos and rob/rape/kill people.
Any comments?
Or was it still safe back then, in our childhood
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Jul 23, 2008 - 10:10am PT
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Nice picture. How refreshing!
Somebody should do a book...
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seamus mcshane
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2008 - 11:08am PT
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WBraun- there HAS to be more classic shots from this time period is your archives!?!
Maybe one with the Warbler?
You know, pictures Meyers wouldn't have dared to put in the seminal "Yosemite Climber", a masterpiece on it's own.
The one (although there's many) picture from "YC" is my favorite.
Dale Bard giggling at rurp belay, 1st on The Sea.
Double D (taco) took that shot detailing the prerequisite gallows humor.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jul 23, 2008 - 11:27am PT
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Seamus
I got to climb with Mr. Myers waaaaaay back in about
1975? (oh, that single brain cell is being stretched). . .
He used to live in this gorgeous brownstone that even had
gargoyles on it, which turns out just around the block
from where I ended up buying a house. Unfortunately, he'd
moved out by then. . .
Ahhhh, such super trivia. . .
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 23, 2008 - 11:43am PT
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Bad asses on the train, hells angels, rapists, WTF? I didn't see any.
Classic shots of the Warbler?
They're in my head, haven't figured out how to convert them to jpeg yet ........
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Jul 23, 2008 - 11:50am PT
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Wener,
I was just at George Meyer's ranch in Colorado scanning stuff, got some amazing things of the Bro's. I'll show you in a few days. DF
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seamus mcshane
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2008 - 12:02pm PT
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I've seen a picture of Warbler from the time period.
Bridwell, Meyers, Graham, Long, The Warbler and the usual suspects.
They're squaring off to have some sort of "T-shirt strangulation party", Long is "mugging it up" as usual.
The Warbler looks about 6'13", surf/skater blond, like the drummer in some mythic band.
One tendon long, and capable of spanning unbelievable reaches both on and off the stone.
A stone master both inside and out.
What was up with that "death match" anyways? stories?
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Jul 23, 2008 - 12:03pm PT
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I have to agree with those that said it's Warbler in the picture. Bachar's hair never looked like that if I remember right. But I wasn't around before 76 either.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 23, 2008 - 02:00pm PT
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ekatconfusedasever, too bad Tarbuster is so busy these days. He played detective on "Some old Pics and Slides" with his magnified computer and attention to detail and figured out who was who. Hey, I just want to be proven wrong. Maybe the knees just hadn't lost their baby fat yet. : }
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jul 23, 2008 - 02:21pm PT
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Werner
Never having been lucky enough to hop a train before,
I've heard recently that they have been taken over
by a gang of ruffians. . . that usually do such nasties
as I pointed out above. . . I guess it's just a sign
of the times. . .
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 23, 2008 - 02:45pm PT
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The person on the left in the photo doesn't look like JB as I knew him (slightly) in 1976/1977, and doesn't look like other photos of him from that period. I don't know who it is, though RK and WB are quite recognizable.
Perhaps Warbler and WB are having some fun with us?
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Jul 23, 2008 - 04:56pm PT
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if we want to assume there is a big conspiracy thing going here (anastasia, Kevin, JB, Jello and Werner are all in on it) and these guys are spoofing us, another name to think about is Jello. I've never seen him without a beard or mustache and (sorry Jeff) he might be 5 years older than those other guys (and doesn't quite look older than them in the photo) but he had opportunity (spent lots of time in Eldo back then) motive (liked to climb at the edge of what was possible like the other three) and long blond hair.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 23, 2008 - 05:20pm PT
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Say, it just ocurred to me that a Picture post of The Warbler and JB together in that year would kill or confirm conspiracy theory.
Then someone could pull the sheets up and make the bed. hehe.
(Maybe you'd better throw a pic of Jello in also, since he was a blond too.)
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Anastasia
climber
Not there
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Jul 23, 2008 - 05:56pm PT
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People don't change that much.
Now look at his hands, his shoulders. Plus look at the love for loud colors. Now who would love to wear FBI glasses with a funky head band?
Plus, the final kicker is who wouldn't mind wearing a pair of shorts with the hem hanging off? Some of us would get immediately annoyed and cut that thing off.
(I would.)
AF
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mastadon
Trad climber
Tahoe
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Jul 23, 2008 - 06:18pm PT
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Kevin,
I want to see you post a picture of your girlfriend from the late 70's/early 80's. I can't remember what her name was but I remember that she was an absolute GODDESS!!
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Jul 23, 2008 - 08:15pm PT
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look at the height difference between Ron Kauk and Kevin/Bachar. I don't think JB is that much taller then Ron, whereas KW definately is
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 23, 2008 - 08:22pm PT
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In the first picture, the left hand person has a rounded chin. In the second photo, where JB's face has been superimposed, there is a cleft chin. I found a fairly recent photo of JB, and he still has a cleft chin.
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Jul 23, 2008 - 08:42pm PT
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the height argument doesn't work, because we can't see their feet (maybe John/Kevin/Jeff is standing on a high spot or a rock).
Wasn't it Tarbuster who carried out a complete forensic evaluation of some of the J-tree photos to come to some iron-clad, irrefutable important conclusion (though I've forgotten the details). Roy - you out there?
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 23, 2008 - 08:55pm PT
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OK so what.....
It's really Christian Griffith, Tom Cruise, then Never Grew, and the last guy on the end is some unknown poser.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 23, 2008 - 09:10pm PT
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Awww, come on uncle Werner! Can't we have just a little bit of fun? Pretty please?
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Jul 23, 2008 - 09:11pm PT
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Jul 23, 2008 - 09:18pm PT
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Just trying to further obscurate a silly thread.
I guess somebody could photoshop CG in, but he is way to young. Oh, and it is proof that Bachar guy did have some golden locks at one point. Also you rarely see him smiling in photos. Hmmmmm?
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 23, 2008 - 09:29pm PT
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Jul 23, 2008 - 09:31pm PT
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dale bard at left, the rest are easy
hey, great pics - wow
thanks for posting!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 23, 2008 - 10:00pm PT
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super photo WBraun! (that sounds so darn trite !) But it is a great one few have seen. JB in the middle ?
If not then "the other blonde" has hair part on rt., hi cheek bones and thin knees to legs....and the mystery is solved.
Life is good this evening and thanks for adding to it. Avocado leaves shimmer in the first soft evening breeze with sun setting over rocky hills. Peace to ST ... lrl
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Double D
climber
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Jul 23, 2008 - 10:35pm PT
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Nice shot Werner!
Kevin..."I have a lot of slides from the 80's, but no scanner - one day I'll bust out some for y'all." Go to ebay search for said Nikon 4000 (for 35mm slides it scans about the same as Kodachrome 64 grain size) and buy one! There's no doubt in my mind you must have one of the greatest collections for Yosemite climbing to be found.
Well...what are you waiting for?
(-;
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jul 23, 2008 - 11:13pm PT
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Great shot Werner!
Up to the Mothership for some re-grooving and a shave!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 23, 2008 - 11:18pm PT
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hmmmmmm
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 23, 2008 - 11:19pm PT
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Note Clooney-esque cleft chin...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 23, 2008 - 11:23pm PT
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Any clues ekat...anastasia ? et al
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 23, 2008 - 11:41pm PT
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With Respect,
Sorry if I'm light .... but all day ponder the deep problems of politics, poverty, disease and the like...
Love pondering the sub lite on the topo.
This Thread and its speculation has been great fun for we Columbo's to delve into for helium entertainment.
All you Dude's climbing has been more than phenom over the years and would never ever mean to lessen it with silly speculation.
Sincere thanks for indulging mi' liteness. lrl
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
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Jul 23, 2008 - 11:46pm PT
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Obviously Bachar... Worrall has 6 fingers on his right hand. JB has 5.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Jul 24, 2008 - 01:59am PT
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Obviously Bachar! Kevin has much better posture!
That's a killer shot, Werner!!!
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Anastasia
climber
Not there
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Jul 24, 2008 - 04:20am PT
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Lynne,
Yes my dear friend, I know who it is. Though I must confess that I have mixed him up with Warbler before. It's that dang hair!
AF
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 25, 2008 - 03:41am PT
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You are all the best, both subjects and mi speculators. I guess Senor' B. had grande knees when young. Photos great. Hope someday to meet some of the rest of yo dudes. Great fortnight to you all ...Thanks for the fun. lrl
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scuffy b
climber
Sartre's No Exit 1/32 mile
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Jul 25, 2008 - 10:50am PT
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It's about birthmarks.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 26, 2008 - 12:13am PT
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For elite athletes in a crazy sport you guys are the best of the best ! To allow people to have fun and for you to be a part of it is pretty darn special !
It was great fun trying to convince someone they were not who they were .... but are they really ????
Smiles, thanks for the good time, and enjoy ze weekend. lrl
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