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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 24, 2008 - 05:36pm PT
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The title says it all. The 2008 Yosemite FaceLift starts in only six months, on September 24th. The event will be over five days, September 24th (Wednesday) - 28th (Sunday). Start planning for a good time, now!
For news on the 2007 FaceLift, and Yosemite Climbing Association doings, see http://yosemiteclimbing.org/07newsletter10.html
I hope we will have an even bigger contingent at the FaceLift this year of SuperTopians, and climbers, camping together and helping, and that will be as much fun as it always is. Perhaps sometime soon Ken will emerge from hibernation, and let us know what the plans are.
If anyone wants to know more about the FaceLift, arrangements, and what goes on, see the following threads from last year, which are not in any particular order.
Speaking of FaceLift http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=474842
FaceLift 08 http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=464998
FaceLift’s 1951 Hudson http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=464032
Another FaceLift TR http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=458965
FaceLift FollowUp – Finally http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=460693
FaceLift on TV http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=460001
ChickieMan on ABC News http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=461466
Tee-shirts http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=461012
Yosemite FaceLift (TR) http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=457799
Latest Gossip from FaceLift http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=455197
ANOTHER FaceLift Thread http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=459032
Yosemite FaceLift – A Modest Proposal (Part III – Pancakes!) http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=439745
Yosemite FaceLift – A Modest Proposal (Part II) http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=412653
Yosemite FaceLift – A Modest Proposal http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=407002
Yosemite FaceLift – Sushi RSVPs Required http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=424067
Friggin FaceLift? http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=454474
Supreme Ruler of Raw Fish http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=453106
Crimpie is Attending the FaceLift! http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=450864
FaceLift in Two Weeks http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=448593
Ken Yager Receives Yosemite Fund Award http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=403725
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Mar 24, 2008 - 06:26pm PT
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I was about to inquire as to the dates so that I may put in for my vacation time.
I can't wait!
What is the earliest I can get a camp reserved in Yosemite? It's a long drive for me and I'd love to roll in on Saturday.
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Domingo
Trad climber
El Portal, CA
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Mar 24, 2008 - 07:33pm PT
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I believe they get the volunteer campgrounds so that you don't have to reserve a campsite. Wasn't it at Yellow Pines last year?
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
Lake Oswego, Oregon
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Mar 24, 2008 - 07:37pm PT
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Here is an open question for Ken and anyone with input they want to... put in.
What happens if a small start-up company (or, for that matter, a larger established company) wanted to sponsor some aspect of the FL... What is the procedure? Are there any guidelines, suggestions, mandates, policies? Would the Fl (and the Park Service) allow product to be showcased/sold at the event?
Thanks for your wit and wisdom.
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WanderlustMD
Trad climber
Lanham MD
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Mar 24, 2008 - 07:51pm PT
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Sweet, I'll actually be around!
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2008 - 07:52pm PT
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Ken may not yet have had a chance to do much planning for 2008, and perhaps this will prompt him. Remembering that our job is to help Ken and the YCA, and hopefuly have some (licit) fun doing so. I'm sure it will all work out in time.
I'm hoping that arrangements will be similar to last year, or better. Half a dozen of us showed up five or six days before the FaceLift started, to help Ken with whatever he needed help with. We mostly stayed in Camp 4 through the whole event. That seemed to work quite well - Ken definitely needs bodies beforehand, and there's lots to do.
The SuperTopo/SushiFest/FaceLift gang took over Yellow Pines (group volunteer camping) from Tuesday night through Friday. Friday and Saturday we nominally had only half of Yellow Pines. The main sushi event was on Tuesday (Wednesday?) night, with follow up on most of the other nights, plus Tim and friends provided pancake breakfasts several mornings.
Some people from Yellow Pines may have had to move to other campgrounds for the last few days - I didn't keep track. Plus many people who came for the weekend stayed at Camp 4, or Upper or Lower Pines.
I suspect that camping arrangements will be much like last year - free camping for volunteers (no freeloaders), must be arranged in advance, all going well group camping. But it's up to Ken and the NPS.
I'm sure Ken would welcome help with planning, and suggestions - bearing in mind that if you suggest something, you may be volunteering to make it happen!
All going well, I plan to be there again, and help. Last year was a bit stressful due to family responsibilities, and some sort of stomach bug. Hopefully there'll be a bit more fun this year.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Mar 24, 2008 - 08:28pm PT
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So, still no '07 Tee- shirts for working stiffs? (XL!)
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Mar 24, 2008 - 08:32pm PT
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worked for me. My calendar is filled in and my paid vacation time requested.
I'd be happy to be the pre-FL chef (so long as I can be put up in Yellowpines when I get there so I don't have to move). hmm... that might not work. But you know what I want so there!
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2008 - 08:36pm PT
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Thank you, locker, for your words of wisdom. The 2007 FaceLift involved about 3,000 volunteer days, spread over five days. The SuperTopo/SushiFest part alone involved about 100 people. If the FaceLift was a true success, it would get smaller each year, as there'd be less to clean up. The reality is that, if anything, it will get larger. The bureaucracy and permits alone are substantial. It takes lots of organization and time.
I assume that you order rubber and glue several weeks before you need them. Same idea, different scale.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 24, 2008 - 09:50pm PT
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I'm there!
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Mar 24, 2008 - 10:44pm PT
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So looking forward to this years Facelift, it was big fun and very rewarding. Loved seeing old friends and meeting- many tacoheads.
Khaonom, you sould keep the cooler, and stop wearing my favorite shoes.;-)
Stzzo, I will try to remember your blue bowl.
edit: Crimpie, are you bringing Dave?
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L
climber
Green grass and high tides forever...
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Mar 25, 2008 - 12:26am PT
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I'm in. You guys had too much fun last year for me to miss '08.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2008 - 11:50am PT
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A good time WILL be had by all. And floggings will continue until morale improves...
Seriously, I'm looking forward to seeing lots of old friends, and meeting some new ones. I probably can't get to the spring SushiFest in Santa Fe, or the event in Ogden, though I hope to get to Montana in June. So seeing everyone in September will be a treat.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2008 - 04:31pm PT
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The FaceLift is a project that we all agree is important to the climbing community. It's a chance for us to give something back to an area that's special to us all, and show some leadership. It also sets an example for climbers in other areas.
As far as I'm concerned, anyone who's willing to help is welcome. Anyone. The FaceLift is inclusive. There were over 60 SuperTopians there last year, and probably more. People of all different types, united around our common campfire, and helping look after it.
So yes, I hope Crowley will be there. And Blinny. And Jennie. And Jody. And nature. And LEB, and TiG, and dirtineye, and Tarbuster, and Rajmit, and on and on and on. Perhaps we don't all quite get along in some parts of our lives, or even disagree about minor things to do with politics or even religion, but we can check those small differences at the park entrance for a few days.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2008 - 09:21pm PT
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Perhaps #46 will be there, too. Or at least his sidekick, who came last year.
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Mar 25, 2008 - 11:17pm PT
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Hello Everybody!
I guess I am finally out of hibernation. I am glad everyone is psyched for the Facelift and as previously mentioned, it is scheduled for September 24-28. It will be similar to last year’s event. I have already reserved Yellow Pines and am sure I will have Camp 4 sites available too. All the camping has to be arranged through me as I do all the reservations allotted to the event for the Park Service. I give them out in the order that I am contacted. When I am ready, I need to know your name, for which evenings, for how many people, and which Campground you would prefer (no guaranties). It can be a real nightmare when people change the dates, campground preference, number of people, etc…I will do the best that I can.
I am working on the evening programs for the event and will announce them when it is finalized. If you have suggestions or requests I would be glad to hear them. Should I have a band on the final evening again? Are we doing a Sushifest to start it off? From you folks that have been to a Facelift, any way to improve the event? I do need some help setting it up and running things, for these people that commit for the whole event and the preparation or to help clean up the day after, I will make special camping arrangements for you and try to give you some free time to enjoy the Park.
I have been attending monthly NPS compliance meetings for the cleanup and for 11 special projects. It is amazing how much work it is to get permission for this thing, sometimes I feel like an NPS employee. The Facelift has grown at such an astronomical pace that it has opened up eyes around here, perhaps scaring some. I think this is a good event for all climbers and Park visitors. I hope it continues to grow and will still be going strong when I am long gone.
Simon, as far as sponsorship goes, we love to give out raffle prizes, we take monetary donations with any extra going to paying for YCA activities during the rest of the year. We welcome any sponsor to advertise their support of the event (can supply pictures if needed, sponsors will receive a public thank you and mention, and they are welcome to supply a banner which we can hang if it is not too large.
Don’t know if there will be media this year so you may not get on TV but, it should be a lot of fun anyway. This year I hope it is bigger than ever.Thanks you all.
Ken
AKA: Chickenskinner
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Mar 26, 2008 - 12:32am PT
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This is kind of interesting. Looks like you all might get paid next year.
Call California Senate Committee to
Ensure Volunteers can do Public Works Projects - like Restoration, Invasive Weed Removal, etc
Good morning,
I am writing on behalf of CaliforniaVolunteers regarding a piece of legislation that is important to all volunteer and service organizations in California. On Wednesday, March 26th, the Senate Labor and Industrial Relations Committee will hear SB 1345 (Ashburn). This legislation is intended to permanently create a prevailing wage exemption for any work performed on a public works project by a volunteer or service member.
Background
By 2003, state labor laws and regulations evolved to the point where strict limits on donated labor on public works projects limited volunteers and service members from working community projects that could be classified as public works. This meant that volunteers that wanted to work on a public works project – tree plantings, habitat restoration, school beautifications, etc. – were required to be paid a prevailing wage. A local volunteer organization was fined $33,000 in 2003 for failing to pay volunteers a prevailing wage for their service restoring a local creek bed.
In response to the limits placed on volunteers, the Legislature passed AB 2690 in 2004, which exempted volunteers from the prevailing wage requirement. As a result of this legislation, volunteers were able to serve in their communities on public works projects. The bill contained a sunset clause that will expire on January 1, 2009.
Information Needed
Unless the prevailing wage exemption is protected, nonprofit organizations may be required to pay prevailing wages to volunteers and service members for work done on public works projects. If volunteer activities you currently engage in could be impacted, we encourage you to share that information with Senator Ashburn, the Senate Labor and Industrial Relations Committee, and the Senators serving on the committee. Their contact information is listed below.
Please don’t hesitate to contact me at (916) 650-6671 or Tess.Mason-Elder@CaliforniaVolunteers.ca.gov if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Tess Mason-Elder
Policy and Legislative Affairs Associate
CaliforniaVolunteers - Office of the Governor
1110 K Street, Suite 210
Sacramento, CA 95814
Office: (916) 650-6671
Cell: (916) 217-1608
Tess.Mason-Elder@CaliforniaVolunteers.ca.gov
http://www.CaliforniaVolunteers.org
Contact Information:
Senator Roy Ashburn
State Capitol, Room 3063
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4018
Fax: (916) 322-3304
Labor and Industrial Relations Committee
1020 N Street, Room 545
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-1556
Fax: (916) 327-5703
Senator Carole Migden (Chair)
State Capitol, Room 5114
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916)651-4003
Fax: (916) 445-4722
Senator Mark Wyland
State Capitol, Room 4066
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4038
Fax: (916) 446-7382
Senator Dick Ackerman
State Capitol, Room 305
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4033
Fax: (916) 445-9754
Senator Sheila Kuehl
State Capitol, Room 5108
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4023
Fax: (916) 324-4823
Senator Alex Padilla
State Capitol, Room 4032
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4020
Fax: (916) 324-6645
Ellen Lapham
elapham@aimhigh1.com
Director, American Alpine Club
Chairman, AAC Conservation Committee
President, Snowlands Network
Nevada City, CA
530-265-9117
Ken
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2008 - 12:40am PT
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Thanks, Ken! Interesting news, with a challenging public policy backdrop.
Doesn't Yosemite National Park currently get some additional federal funding based on volunteer hours in the park, e.g. at the FaceLift? How much does that work out to, and what is it used for?
I suspect that the result will be that volunteer organizations will end up back where they were. They'll be allowed to do "public work", and won't be "fined" for doing it, even if it's the sort of work that would or should usually be done by a public employee - which seems to be the real issue. But volunteers won't be paid, either. Neither state nor federal government has enough money to pay volunteers, and both want to encourage volunteerism. Vested interests, e.g. unions, may not like it, but the financial reality is often that if volunteers don't do it, there's no money for it anyway.
I don't expect to be paid as a volunteer - a paid volunteer is an oxymoron. Being paid isn't the point, at least not pay in the material sense. Though I wouldn't mind if for every hour I put in the YCA got $1, or something along those lines, in addition to whatever the park gets.
I suspect that most of those who help at FaceLift willingly do as volunteers things that they wouldn't do for pay.
Perhaps some of Jeff's real and imaginary friends could help with this - the "emperor of Yosemite" should be good for something. :-)
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Mar 26, 2008 - 12:56am PT
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If you are required to pay me for my volunteer work I would like to donate said wages to the YCA.
BTW, I went to the Banff Mtn. Film fest tonight in Santa Fe and proudly wore my Facelift T-shirt.
Sushi to start it off? YES!!!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 26, 2008 - 12:59am PT
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isn't the park a FEDERAL jurisdiction?
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Mar 26, 2008 - 02:15am PT
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Totally agree with Khanom,Nature & Mighty Hiker..I do Not want any money,it would no longer be a rewarding experience... Free camp ground and park passes -was a great bonus.
Love the idea of donating the money to YCA.
p.s.Just add free showers and all would be perfect!
edit: Hey Mighty Hiker, Please tell me about free showers? ;-)
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2008 - 02:15am PT
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Ed: State labour laws may still apply, in whole or in part, even though it's a national park. Could be a complicated subject - division of powers in federated countries always is.
And then there's the child labour issue - working late at night, in marginal and dangerous conditions - making sushi! Looking very bad, I'd say - may need to get help from he who must be self-displayed.
Nita - ask me about showers, and all will be revealed. Secret password, decoder ring - the whole bit.
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Mar 26, 2008 - 09:42am PT
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I completely forgot about the child labor laws.
working late at night under dangerous conditions - sharp knives and the Reverend Pegan Monkey Boy pour Sake down my throat - that's a recipe for disaster!
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2008 - 07:48pm PT
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So, Cosmic, are you going to bring Locker? How about Russ & Sooze?
Hopefully we can keep the OSHA and workers' compensation people away from the FaceLift and the SushiFest - there are some things they don't need to know. Another reason we don't want to be "employees" - "volunteer" sounds way better, too.
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Mar 26, 2008 - 09:06pm PT
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Jeff,
How much ya got! Just teasing. I will send you an email. I spend between 5-7 thousand dollars on the Facelift and usually break even other than time spent and wages paid to my employees. I hope to turn it into a fundraising event someday to help finance the other things we do the rest of the year. We currently spend between 35-45 thousand a year for insurance, office rent and storage, display costs, and employee wages. And I work for free.
Ken
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Paulina
Trad climber
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Mar 26, 2008 - 09:53pm PT
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Sure hope to see now familiar faces again in September.
Will probably be looking for a ride from San Fran when the time comes.
Will probably still not have a proper job, but will probably pay for sushi this time :-).
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paganmonkeyboy
climber
mars...it's near nevada...
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Mar 27, 2008 - 12:01am PT
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smokescreens ? i'm all over it...someone's gonna have to bring bail though...
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2008 - 01:52am PT
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PMB, if you're making smoke - any kind - you're going to catch it big time. Naughty!
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Mar 27, 2008 - 10:42am PT
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This year I plan on giving back more than I did last year.
I just hope that I can actually work as hard as I did last year. JStan and I took care of 120... But that was tough. Tougher than any climb I've ever been on!
See you there
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Mar 28, 2008 - 01:23am PT
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It is amazing how quickly these posts get buried.
I have done some work and have the campsites worked out. I have camping available for 44 people in Camp 4 during the event and camping in Yellow Pines for 100 people from the 24-26. During the weekend(27-28) in Yellow Pines I have camping for 50 people. During the whole event I have overflow camping throughout the Park though possibly in less desirable areas. It is first to contact me, first serve. For all you earlybirds and heavy planners, I am ready, send me your requests and we will work on the reservations. Bring it on!
Ken
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
So on my way outta St. Looney!!!
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Mar 28, 2008 - 09:09am PT
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Dave and I will be there for the whole event. We'd like our spot in Yellow please!!!
p.s. no bear in the tent this year please.
Crimpie
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Mar 28, 2008 - 10:06am PT
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Yo Ken!
That's great you have camping already worked out. I sent you an email with my requests but didn't hear back so I'll send again.
I'll post my plans here so everyone knows whattup with me.
I think I will request my two weeks of vacation time for this event. Papajoto and I will probably leave Santa Fe on the Friday before the event (19th) and arrive in the ditch on the 20th. We'd of course prefer to be in Yellow Pines with the sushi tent. Dates for sushi are yet to be set.
Yay!
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Mar 28, 2008 - 07:52pm PT
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Ken - my wife and I should be able to make it for the whole gig (24-28). Put us down for Yellowpines for the duration - place had a good vibe that last time around.
Nature - let me know if you need sushi help again - had a blast working the fish stall in 07.
Hey Nature - ever tried Kewpie Mayo? Got turned on to this stuff by local sushi guy - been making dynamite sauce ever since. Great stuff with baked enoki mushrooms and scallops!
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Mar 29, 2008 - 12:47am PT
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I am working on the camp site spreadsheets (almost done). Everyone that has emailed me has a spot. I will email you back when they are completed. The earliest will be Sunday as I have to work tomorrow making it a 60 + work hour this week. Good thing that I have almost six months to put this together. I am really psyched at the response and the fact that all so far are committing to the whole week and more. That is awesome.
Thank you,
Ken
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Slakkey
Trad climber
From a Quiet Place by the Lake
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Mar 29, 2008 - 11:17am PT
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First, I hate to see good threads like this get too far down the list, so bump.
Second, after not be able to come last year due to unforseen circumstances. This year I am in for sure. Ken, What is the status on campsites to date for someone who plans on staying for the whole week?
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Mar 30, 2008 - 07:14pm PT
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Thanks to all that have emailed me. I sent you all confirmations for camping today. Seventeen people have already committed to the whole event. Quite a few of you have offered to help before and after the Facelift. I will check into getting camping arrangements made for you sometime this week.
Thanks everyone. I am looking forward to it.
Ken
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
Lake Oswego, Oregon
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Mar 30, 2008 - 07:19pm PT
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Ken, put me down for a YP site. Nights of 24 and 25.
Simon
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paganmonkeyboy
climber
mars...it's near nevada...
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Mar 30, 2008 - 08:08pm PT
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woo hoo yellow pines !
are you guys bringing the drums ?? ;-)
(somebody please please just tell us if we are playing music too late, ok ? i will try to be nice, but you all know i'm f*#king clueless once i start having fun..)
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Mar 30, 2008 - 08:09pm PT
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correct me if I am wrong but are you not *always* having fun?
*quack*
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2008 - 09:51pm PT
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Thanks, Ken - sounds like lots has happened and is happening already. Sorry if I made work for you - I was just trying to stir up a little interest, and maybe add a climbing-related thread to the front page.
Do you have any jobs that you need help with over the next few months, getting ready? I wouldn't be surprised if a few people, especially those who are local or regularly in the Valley, could spare a little time to help with organizing.
(Bumped so Ken may see it.)
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Mar 31, 2008 - 09:56pm PT
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I wanna be in for the weekend, Yellow pines, employment/vacation schedule is iffy right now or I would commit to the whole week, I should know by June.
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Ken, With the sponsors who have donated prizes, do you send them a form letter, or do you personally contact them?
Would you like any of us to help you procure prizes for the raffle?
Just thinking out loud...
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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I'll bring my 3 helpers, my guitar, my rock shoes and my sushi appetite!!
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
So on my way outta St. Looney!!!
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It won't be any fun if Pennsylenvy doesn't play the drums. *snicker*
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jstan
climber
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April 2
Count me in for the full period plus any time, either before or after, where I can help. Will put a more formal request in the mail today.
Icab Test:
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2008 - 01:17am PT
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Bump. I told Lynne I'd do so, so she could see another facet of the wonderful wacky world of SuperTopo. Who knows, perhaps she'll grace us with her presence in September?
Edit: I guess the title should now say "Four Months to Go".
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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May 19, 2008 - 01:25am PT
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Chicken Skinner, I asked this earlier..
With the sponsors who have donated prizes, do you send them a form letter, or do you contact them in person.
Would you like any of us to help you procure prizes for the raffle???
Just thinking out loud...
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal Hell
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May 19, 2008 - 01:31am PT
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Is it too late to get a campsite during the face lift?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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May 19, 2008 - 02:04am PT
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Mighty Hiker.....You are beyond cool! I did not know about this thread thank you for bumping! When I first joined ST you and Nita and several others so encouraged me to go for Facelift for a variety of very kind reasons. Basically cause you cared for someone finding a new way.
Well, I was impressed with you all. You Supertacos and Tacoettes are an awesome bunch so OF COURSE I did what you said.
I emailed Ken awhile back and I will be there (God willing of course) Sept.21-29. Wanted to get there early to help setup. I have campsite A&B in Yellow Pines.
Where is Yellow Pines? Like Nita, since I'll be there awhile can you give me a decoder ring to find a shower and an electrical outlet?
We should ALL for sure give any reimbursement back to YCA, for crying out loud, we were all going anyway, right on?
As far as differences.....they make the world go round. I am jazzed to meet EVERYBODY! I will make a disclaimer, I am a little shy in public. But I love a good party!!!!!!!!! and I love to work hard. Here's to the Facelift. Anything I can do to help I will. Lynnie will be rockin'.
Gotta have music! Everyone bring your stuff. I read some of you all do guitar, fiddle, sax, bring it on. We will celebrate.
Whoops! Almost forgot anyone that reads this must read Mike Grahams Thread, Ancient Gold, just posted. Must read, it is awesome. Read it.
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John Moosie
climber
Suckage California
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May 19, 2008 - 02:08am PT
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Lynne, this thread has a map where yellowpine camground is.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=439745&msg=452300#msg452300
Yellow Pines is about a mile and a half and the second left past El Cap
turnaround on Southside Drive. There is a small sign that will say
Sentinel Beach and Yellow Pines. It is just before the Four Mile Trail
so you need to watch carefully because if you miss it you will have to
drive back around the short one-way loop. Do you mind posting the
directions on Supertopo for me? I am running out of time.
It is also called the volunteer campsite.
I will work on finding out about showers. I think you can purchase them at curry village. Crimpie probably knows. Lots of people just sneak in. Don't tell anyone.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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May 19, 2008 - 02:13am PT
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John Moosie, thank you guy! Directions, a potential shower, WOW, life IS good! You all on ST are SO great about taking care of the new ones. Lynne Looking Forward
Tomorrow afternoon I will post the directions. I have some serious work at work manana am. LRL
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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May 19, 2008 - 02:21am PT
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Lynne, I am also shy around people and big groups, we can be shy together:-) If you can - bring a bicycle, we can ride to the showers.
ps..everybody was super cool last year. Nature's SushiFest made the magic happen. He's a great guy..
edit, oh yeah.. one guy was crusty..
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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May 19, 2008 - 02:27am PT
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Nita, packing my bicycle pronto. We can use them as our limos to party sites also. Copy Girl?
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2008 - 02:29am PT
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We can worry about details like exact directions to Yellow Pines, and to the various showers (at least two options, plus jumping in the river), when we get a bit closer to the FaceLift. I don't think they're going anywhere.
Maybe it would be fun to have a bit of a Valley tour (NOT on the green dragon) at the start of the FaceLift, for SuperTopians who haven't been there before.
Important to mention that all camping has to be coordinated through Chicken Skinner aka Ken, of the YCA, to keep things manageable.
The general philosophy seems to be all work and no play makes FaceLift less fun. Though some work astonishingly hard, and everybody helps in some way or other.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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May 19, 2008 - 02:35am PT
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Mighty Hiker and Moosie, "The Boss" (I think we should call Mr. Ken that, like Bruce Springsteen)offered me a place at camp 4. I was tempted to take it just for the --------of it.
But Camp 4 MUST be just as hardcore, all night crazy as it was years ago right? LRL
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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May 19, 2008 - 03:16am PT
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Yellow Pines is the place to b, Ken, I'm signed up, right?
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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May 19, 2008 - 10:22am PT
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Hi Nita,
I have not put together a letter yet for raffle prizes. It would be great if you want to find some. I have several companies that donate every year and will be contacting them soon.
Jay and anyone else that needs camping. I need to know for which nights and for how many. I still have some camping left in Yellow Pines from September 22-28. I sign people up in the order that I receive emails. There is camping available in Camp 4 September 24-28.
Here is the map to Yellow Pines. Showers can be had at Curry Village.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/chickenskinner/scan0001-5.jpg
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal Hell
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May 19, 2008 - 11:47am PT
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Chicken Skinner I can't seem to get my email to work to write you...can you please reserve a spot in Yellow Pines for Sept. 22-28 for me?
Thank you, Karen
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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May 19, 2008 - 11:58am PT
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Hi Ken,
My email is down too. Please put me down for a spot in Yellow Pines.
Many thanks,
Doug
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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May 19, 2008 - 08:35pm PT
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Ken, If you email me the letter, I will contact local company- klean Kanteen, and ask for a donation or two. Do you display products at the FaceLift table, I don't remember?
Also let's - work out ways to not drive so much.
......Ideas anyone?...........
Maybe- sign up in morning at yellow pines /camp 4, instead of Village? Don't know if that would work?
At my local park clean up, we leave bags on the sides of the road, trucks,and bikes with trailers pick up the bags of trash.... write name on bags??? (OOPS..forgot about Bears!)I guess that idea sucks....
just thinking out loud..
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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May 19, 2008 - 09:08pm PT
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Hi Nita,
We have to sign up at the Visitor Center. This is to ensure the Archeology people get their spiel in. Compliance for the Facelift is a lengthy process and I start on the next years Facelift shortly after finishing the last one. We have always tried to carpool as much as possible and with current gas prices there is more incentive. I haven't written a sponsorship letter yet for this year and won't until after the display is done on June 6.
Ken
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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May 19, 2008 - 10:35pm PT
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Can't wait!
Count on at the very least three nights of sushi and maybe this year we'll be more organized with breakfast (not just that one day, eh?).
And perhaps we can put together that chili cook-off we tabled last year at SummerSushiFest?
Question/Thought: By the time the Facelift rolls around I will have completed my Level 1 Teachers Training (Anusara). It could/would be a lot of fun to teach a class or two if there is an interest? Any chance there is a facility we might be able to occupy for a few hours on a couple days (Ken)?
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2008 - 10:39pm PT
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Ken's son may be interested, anyway - his impromptu sushi chef apprenticeship last year certainly was a start.
Maybe we can find a '51 Nash Rambler somewhere in which to conduct the sushi making classes. That would definitely be combining many of the important elements that make up the FaceLift. :-)
A lot of people contribute to the success of FaceLift, in a lot of different ways. It is a voluntary thing. But we need to keep focused, too, and ensure that one way or the other, our presence and work improve the park.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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May 19, 2008 - 11:01pm PT
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Mighty Hiker, sounds like a big job you have. So you are welcome to throw my comments in the round file and you know I will help wherever I can.
If you have a chili cook off, I have a great Pork Verde Mexican Classic I would love to share. If you need streams and rivers cleaned, I volunteer. Lynne
Ken, bringing Valley conformity together with ST free spirits.
Nita, Yoga would be great!
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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May 19, 2008 - 11:23pm PT
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Nature, Can't we just do some Yoga in the dirt- at camp?
Maybe a morning bird watch with Radical, Crimpie and Andy.
ps..I am contacting Chico companies,Klean Kanteen and Sierra Nevada Brewing to ask for donations = raffle/monetary ............................. CAN ANYONE ELSE MAKE CONTACTS TO HELP KEN OUT ?????
edit: Lynne, Nature is the Yoga teacher..anusara.. he's cute too..;-)
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2008 - 11:55pm PT
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Thanks, Lynne, but I'm just one of the helpers. There are lots - it really is a team event. The motivating force is Ken, backed by his family and a cast of thousands.
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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May 21, 2008 - 12:00am PT
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Hello,
Everyone that has contacted me about camping in Yellow Pines is in so far. I have a special folder set up for you all and will respond with a confirmation soon.I will set up camping as to who contacts me first. It really makes my life easier if you let me know for which nights you want, how many people, and whether Yellow Pines or Camp 4. NPS has dozens of people to deal with registering campers and I do this myself for about 250-300 people.
DR, Send me an official email if you can now. I haven't forgot about you and will do my best to remember. Don't worry I will work out something for you.
As it stands now, Yellow Pines has a fair amount of space from the 22nd to the 26th and is almost full on the 27th and 28th. I still have walk-in camping available in Camp 4 for about 40 people and some space in Group Camp. Perimeter campgrounds like Crane Flat and Hogdon Meadows are easier. I have requests for camping for school groups, Brownie troops and corporate volunteer groups. It is amazing, because I have not advertised or promoted the event yet but seem to receive a lot of correspondence about it.
Once the exhibit is completed, I should have more time for this stuff.
I would like to thank Nita and others for helping with the procurement of raffle prizes. I sent Nita a modified sponsor request letter and she has improved it. She may be able to send it to you. Is that O.K. Nita?
Thank you all,
Ken
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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May 21, 2008 - 01:41am PT
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Ken, yes..no problem. I can email the papers if anyone wants to help out.
Tacoheads, let's help Chicken Skinner ..He is quite busy.
Any Mountain gear made in your home town? give them a call..tell them:
I'm calling to find out the procedure for requesting a donation.
I hate talking on telephones..I hate asking people for things, but..Ken needs help and this is a *Great-fun event*. I did it and it was no biggie.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2008 - 02:30am PT
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I'll see if Arc'Teryx might be interested, if Ken hasn't already contacted them. My guess is that many manufacturers and retailers would want to be associated with the FaceLift, but it takes time to contact all of them and work out arrangements. Plus some should be asked for cash and in kind support rather than or in addition to donated gear, and it's important to keep communications clear. We wouldn't want four different people contacting Company X, each asking for different things for the FaceLift.
Another way people and companies can help is by making cash donations. FatTrad has set a good example in that regard. The YCA is a 501(c)(3), so you get a tax receipt for the donation (at least if you live in the U.S.), and it only actually costs you 2/3 to 3/4 of the amount you donate.
Edit: Late night bump for Fatty - for all his bombast, he knows what's good for him. If only he'd listened to his mother...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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May 22, 2008 - 02:41am PT
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I'd really like to make it again this year. With the new belayer in the family, things will be unpredictable.
Hey is A.C., coming, Crowley?
Nita, Ken ?
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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May 22, 2008 - 09:38am PT
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I email Matthew on occasion and it sounds like he'll make it.
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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The political dissent is giving me a head..ACHE...
Let's find things that unite us.
Any more Ideas for group meals, or sponsorships for YCA?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Nita, if someone would give me very specific details, cause I don't like suprises unless they are vacations, climbing shoes etc., I could organize a Mexican food night.
PS thanks for always watching my back and taking care of this newbie! It will be great to meet you! Lynnie
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 2, 2008 - 02:05am PT
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If you're not too busy eating sushi, organizing Mexican food, meeting new friends, picking up garbage, and doing the El Cap lieback, you should make a little time for climbing when you're in the Valley.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 12, 2008 - 01:11am PT
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No it's not! It will be three months from June 24th, and I was going to start a new "Three Months to go" thread then, with a link to the preceding one. I figure once a thread gets over a hundred posts, it's time to consider a continuation.
But thanks for the bump, eh? :-)
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Jun 12, 2008 - 02:58am PT
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Bump again,
Please send me an email Anders closer to the date, "I am an airhead when it comes to dates" Blame it on my island background... All I know is that time moves too fast for me to keep track... I should be teaching then so I can only make it for the weekend. Yet... What a fantastic weekend it is going to be!!!
Sending Love and lots of happy thoughts,
Anastasia Frangos
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jun 12, 2008 - 03:21am PT
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Hey Mike, good intents never go unrewarded! Are you going?
Mighty Hiker, got my friends going now also. We are ready to help starting the 22nd. I arrive late the 21st. Really jazzed to meet all my threadmasters. Lynnie
Hey, bluering, have you convinced the family to go?
SAY NITA OR CHICKEN SKINNER, I can donate boxes of zonas and climbing chalk. Just let me know if you want it and I will order now. Can send it up before the event so you will have it in hand. Do any of the clothes or shoes guys come to the event or donate?
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Jun 12, 2008 - 05:12am PT
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Hey Lynne!
Rock Salt!!!
I'll email you closer to the date... I want to camp near you!
From your "Little Pepper Grain,"
Anastasia
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jun 12, 2008 - 11:34am PT
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Hey Pepper, (A) I think Chicken Skinner said we were going to be in A & B, Yellow Pine. Can't wait!
Mike, cool!
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 12, 2008 - 06:34pm PT
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Yes, Anastasia, I'll send you an e-mail about a month before the FaceLift, as a reminder. I may also post one or two threads on SuperTopo, to encourage interest, and maybe dislodge political and religious threads from the front page. As always, I'm just trying to help Ken and the YCA, so whatever works, and helps make the FaceLift a success.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jun 12, 2008 - 07:23pm PT
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Mighty Hiker, I'm with you. Since rock climbing can be a semi religious experience I can see a little of that filtering in, but I for one will be glad when the election is OUT.
Keep up the great work! Lynnie
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jun 12, 2008 - 08:58pm PT
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Yeah Nita! Sign me up for the bird walk! :)
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Sep 11, 2008 - 02:40pm PT
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Is there really going to be a birdwalk? If so, when? Need to bring the long-eyes if so...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Sep 11, 2008 - 02:44pm PT
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"Is there really going to be a birdwalk?"
Kick ass, I'm bringin' my BB gun.
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MisterE
Social climber
My Inner Nut
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Sep 11, 2008 - 03:39pm PT
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Nothing to see here, move along...
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Sep 12, 2008 - 01:29pm PT
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bumpity bump bump
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Sep 12, 2008 - 02:01pm PT
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Fatty
Wine never goes to waste. . .
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Sep 12, 2008 - 02:50pm PT
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Emperor, two cases....and you have to ask ?...YES ! hehehe
It's now looking like I'll have to take my car, not the van. Do they have Tables in YP or will I be putting my stove on the ground...or can I use the top of a bear box as a table ?
Details, details....
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Sep 12, 2008 - 03:15pm PT
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Lots of picnic tables.
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