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Dr. Taco

Social climber
New Freedonia, Caledonia
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 4, 2007 - 11:02am PT
Hardman Knott has confirmed what was suspected: A. Crowley WAS banned from ST for his shitty, rude obnoxious stalking.

And then Crowley begged CMac to let him play again. Deluged CMac with phone calls and whined until he was permitted to return to ST.

It's time to ban Crowley again. Because Mr. Crowley, on a website devoted to rock climbing . . .
































yer irrelevant!
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 4, 2007 - 11:12am PT
Why not ban anonymous trolls?
nita

climber
chico ca
Nov 4, 2007 - 11:16am PT
Chiloe, You took the words right out of my mouth.
Dr. Taco

Social climber
New Freedonia, Caledonia
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2007 - 11:39am PT
Yes, Dr. Taco is a regular and well-known poster.

But, having been stalked and harassed by Matt Moore / A. Crowley, Dr. Taco has adopted this psuedonym to protect himself from further harassment.

Have any of you been the unwitting focus of Matt Moore's mental illness?

No?

Then STFU.


Dr. Taco

Social climber
New Freedonia, Caledonia
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2007 - 12:13pm PT
Perhaps Dr. Crowley has spoken too harshly. Apologies.

Ken, Nita: you wouldn't understand.

Dr. Taco
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 4, 2007 - 12:20pm PT
Yes, Dr. Taco is a regular and well-known poster.
But, having been stalked and harassed by Matt Moore / A. Crowley, Dr. Taco has adopted this psuedonym to protect himself from further harassment.
Have any of you been the unwitting focus of Matt Moore's mental illness?
No?
Then STFU.


"Dr." Taco, you're making some of us feel like the unwitting focus of your mental illness. This heavy barrage of hate-posts makes nothing at all better.

WBraun

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 12:32pm PT
Hey taco head

You're fuking nut case. You waste all your dumb ass time here worrying about some Crowley guy instead of your own life.

Do you even have a life?

And don't give me your sorry ass excuse about Crowley's problems.

Check your own self first.
Jello

Social climber
No Ut
Nov 4, 2007 - 12:42pm PT
Werner, why don't you just come out and tell the Dr what you think, instead of tip-toeing around trying not to hurt his feelings?


You crack me up, sometimes...HAHAHAHA!

-LaughingJello
caughtinside

Social climber
Davis, CA
Nov 4, 2007 - 12:48pm PT
I thought the fake crowleys were pretty funny.
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 01:17pm PT
I agree with the free speech aspect of this argument, however, this is about bad behavior, not freedom of expression. Matt Moore makes it his mission to disrupt this forum, IMO.

How about all of you 'friends of Matt Moore' (who likely helped reverse the ban), appeal to him to be more civil or at least keep his crap on the political threads and off the climbing threads. By now, we are all well aware what awaits those who join a political thread with him around and dares express a divergent view. Funny what a double standard it is if you agree with him...but I've written this too much already.

Matt's BS is a disincentive for me personally to participate here on any threads. I enjoy the ST but see no value whatsoever in being stalked and harassed because of my viewpoints. This has gone on for almost a year now, ever since he arrived and turned bad. While I believe in fighting fire with fire, if I'd been banned, I think I'd change my ways. But then, rehabilitation is sort of a pipe dream isn't it?

As many of us have tried to make clear, if someone was constantly sniping at you for simply having a different opinion, you'd get sick of it too. Matt's attention and personal touch are unwanted! I bet if all of us agreed with Matt Moore, he'd still find some way to be a creep.

Sincerely yours,
Mimi
aldude

climber
Monument Manor
Nov 4, 2007 - 01:23pm PT
Sticks and stones...........
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Nov 4, 2007 - 01:32pm PT
"Matt Moore makes it his mission to disrupt this forum, IMO."--mimi


Dr. Fako (Taco)

I have observed Crowley being respectful and contributory many times--IN CLIMBING THREADS.

All of the other bullshite threads (including mine) are not only fair game for ANYBODY"S drivel and opinions, but SHOULD be questioned, scrutinized and even chastised.

Shite, somedays I have to TRY to find a climbing thread that has been added to--and when I find it, the front page buries it with drivel topics from all of us bored, opinionated wanna-be climbers.


I like to look at the photos and TRs of CLIMBERS out there getting shite done, not the ENDLESS bickering amongst a bunch of "children" that are too smart for their own good.

At least Crowley is the funniest, most-entertaining and thought-provoking a$$hole among the bunch of you, and everybody knows who YOU are.


Chaz

Trad climber
So. Cal.
Nov 4, 2007 - 01:36pm PT
Mojede,

Goddamn but yer stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!
monolith

Trad climber
Berkeley
Nov 4, 2007 - 01:49pm PT
We need a kill(ignore) function. Putting someone on your ignore list changes only how you see ST, and does not change anyone else's view.

That will get more climbing threads on the first page.
Watusi

Social climber
Newport, OR
Nov 4, 2007 - 01:55pm PT
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Nov 4, 2007 - 01:56pm PT
Chaz,


Hahahaha--thanks, man, I needed that. Made my morning sunny and bright, and it will make my hole digging easier.

I guess YOU figured out who YOU are.
John Moosie

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 02:22pm PT
I think A.C. needs to back off the personal attacks, but then I would also appreciate less comments like "stupid liberals".


When we use the same tactics as that of the person we dispise, then we are no better then they are.

We tend to do better when we know each other face to face.



No banning.......... but maybe a muzzle. :-)


kiddingaroundmoosie


dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Nov 4, 2007 - 05:03pm PT
Yes yes!!!

An Ignore button so that users can customize ST to suit thier needs and wishes.


That ways anyonw who wants all the drivel can have it, and the rest can have peace on earth and good will toward men.

OK not really, but at least they can sort out the junk wihtout having to read it, or have it bump interesting threads off into thread oblivion.
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 06:14pm PT
Ignore button? Tried the voluntary ignore option; doesn't work. The guy insists on attacking posters that he has deemed his political enemy. It's very simple. You MattFans refuse to accept that he intentionally disrupts the ST for his own selfish enjoyment. Glad you find it entertaining.

Mike, are you referring to me as a crybaby/complainer? This dick is a jerk. Tell me, if he was a right-winger behaving the exact same way, do you believe his ban would've been lifted? I think knott.

Not since Rajmit has the ST had this problem. Way to go Matt. What an honor!

Cheers,
Mimi
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 06:26pm PT
Did you say clown? I have several portraits of you from which to select. Which one would you like?

Incidentally, how hard did you have to snivel to get back onto the ST? Speaking of crybabies.
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 06:31pm PT
"I like them all." Matt Moore

Really? That's a good thing. Because as long as you're here doing that thing that you do, a little token won't be far behind to depict your tortured personna.

atchafalaya

climber
California
Nov 4, 2007 - 06:35pm PT
zzzzzzzz....
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 06:36pm PT
In your case, absolutely and by all means necessary!

Witness my awesome powers. Does this OUCH creation bring back any painful memories? I thought not; you've already killed those cells.

Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 06:46pm PT
No, no grandiose ideas on my part, Matt. Just a simple, good old-fashioned asskicking. But then again, you seem to like that sort of thing in a shameless kind of way.
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 06:50pm PT
No, it's a very funny OUCH cartoon. You're being way too literal.

Please tell us about your banishment. Was it kind of like The Point where you and your little dog were chased off into the Pointless Forest by some mean oligarch's kid?
Risk

Mountain climber
Minkler, CA
Nov 4, 2007 - 06:54pm PT
“In your case, absolutely and by all means necessary!” Please give us some other examples for the record. Physical violence against a lawful citizen?

Nobody here is suggesting violence, and then you post a nose punch of Crowley. Perhaps you are over reacting to all of this. From the sounds of it, you are disturbed! Maybe you can chime in as others have a little more lightheartedly? I see this thread differently than a slug-fest.
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 07:10pm PT
No, a proximity grenade would've been better.

TMJ, you don't get out much, do you?

No mention of banishment, Matt. C'mon, let's discuss.
Risk

Mountain climber
Minkler, CA
Nov 4, 2007 - 07:16pm PT
I would be shocked if you have a quarter of my field time. Less now, that's for sure, but my callus' are still there.
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 07:17pm PT
"Are you about to be banished, luv?" Matt Moore

Matt, we really need to avoid drifting off into old material. That would be your score in the game of tennis and nothing more. You really should stop being so derivative.

So, about your banishment. How long did it last? I really can't imagine being chased out of here by people that don't like me. That's harsh.

TMJ edit: rock climbing is kind of hurtful and violent, don't you think?
Risk

Mountain climber
Minkler, CA
Nov 4, 2007 - 07:30pm PT
Mimi, I vehemently disagree with you that rock climbing is hurtful and violent. Rock climbing can be vertical ballet, or just a means to get to the summit. There are many other things climbing is, but violent and hurtful is not on any list of mine. Never would have even thought of those. . . .
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 07:35pm PT
Not a chance Locker. But GUD try!

TMJ, guess you never held a violent fall or gotten a hurtful gobie. Cool. Hope the magic holds.

Matt, save your BS for some newbie lover. This also is second run material. Sorry Matty, but that would be a complete waste of time.

Please tell us about your banishment. Did you get an email notice? It would be great if you shared that with us. On what grounds were you allowed to return or was it as punitive as all that? You must want to share that with us even though I know there's no LINK to post.

The best thing about this little thread is its mere topical persistence.
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 07:51pm PT
"Knott gonna supply an example?

Fraud.

Coward.

Posuer.

Bushbot.

"The best thing about this little thread is it's mere topical persistence." MD

The thread is the epitomy of stalking, along with the many others...

Brownshirt." Matt Moore


Hey Browndrawers, this thread is about banning you so how can it be about me stalking you? Tell the forum how you've never purposefully disrupted a thread for your own entertainment. Were you banned for exceptional cleverness or posting too many links then?

You always dispose of the evidence by backediting or deleting. Out of the hundreds of your posts, anyone willing to spend the time can see what you're about. My experiences with you are evidence enough for me. The room smells terrible everytime you fill them up. Everyone has their limit and that's why you were kicked off in the first place.

So how about the banishment? C'mon, be a sport.
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 08:07pm PT
Here's another little pile of endearment paying homage to Matty.


I had nothing to pooh with this one.
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 08:30pm PT
"Mimi=Dr.Taco=countless anonymous trolls.

Plus, Bushbot.

All you need to know." Matt Moore

Since when do I need to pretend I'm a troll, Matt? Have I ever held back with my comments to you? Actually, I have held back more than I can count. I guess I'm saving those for when I finally get to confront you in person.

And that Bushbot moniker is really SOS tired. It's not my fault you hate the guy. How much money did you contribute to try and defeat him? I don't give to either of these parties so I expect very little.

How about apologizing to everyone you've insisted on insulting and let's start from scratch. Are you capable of this transformation? I know you've stated how you 'don't respect anything or anyone.' But how about trying here on the ST.

You still seem a little reluctant to discuss the devastating psychological impact of your banishment.
Dr. Taco

Social climber
New Freedonia, Caledonia
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2007 - 08:33pm PT
Mimi,

You ask too much of the boy. He is limited in his ability to play nicely with others online.

Somehow he's different in person, or so some here would say.

Mr. Braun, thank you for your concern. But as I said earlier in this thread, you wouldn't understand.

Dr. Taco
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 08:46pm PT
If you're so annoyed, why are you bothering to follow the thread Mr. Stinkeye? And please don't insult me by insinuating any such interaction between me and this clown.

Matt, no surprise. Dr. Taco is correct again.

Now that we've gotten your revival out of the way, you must share the experience of what must have been a most excruciating and interminable banishment.
nita

climber
chico ca
Nov 4, 2007 - 08:48pm PT
Would you both please stop...pretty please....
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Nov 4, 2007 - 08:51pm PT
I say if you have to ban start with those sanctimonious enough to refer to themselves in the 3rd person.

The doctor will see himself now.
Dr. Taco

Social climber
New Freedonia, Caledonia
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2007 - 08:55pm PT
Dear Philo:

Your sarcasm is not lost on Dr. Taco.

Dr. Taco
nita

climber
chico ca
Nov 4, 2007 - 08:55pm PT
Mathew-Mathew-mathew just give it a rest.....
nita

climber
chico ca
Nov 4, 2007 - 08:58pm PT
Dr Taco, Just give it a rest.


WandaFuca

Gym climber
San Fernando Lamas
Nov 4, 2007 - 09:01pm PT
What is the difference between a grungehump and a grudgef*#k?
nita

climber
chico ca
Nov 4, 2007 - 09:02pm PT
What part of Rest... do you knott understand? D.C.


Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 09:04pm PT
I was just about to nita. And not even a single clown.

I had to inquire about the banishment in case Matty was ready to discuss. I'm sure you must know all about it. And being his friend, you may have appealed his case. At least you have a history with Matt that allows you to think he's entertaining. For several of us, he is a veritable ogre, hence this thread.

Personally, I hope it trickles along on the first page for awhile. As the night goes on, Matt will shirley backedit and delete his posts and alter the thread's content. But what's new.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 4, 2007 - 09:04pm PT
Where did Wild Bill go?
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 09:06pm PT
He probably bailed to avoid Matt. Several of us have done that during the past year. It would be great if he would come back.
nita

climber
chico ca
Nov 4, 2007 - 09:07pm PT
I give up...All three of you are acting worse than children. At least children know... what a time out is.

Don't care who started it.. Who thread it is...



Chiloe, Funny you say that... I always thought Dr Taco was wildBill.
Mimi

climber
Nov 4, 2007 - 09:29pm PT
"Really Mimi,

I'm SO sorry!

Your folk's were a hoot, but the slave's gave me pause...

But ya know, who am I to judge the Gentry?

Anyway, my eyes have been quite sensitive since then, and the whole deal seemed impossible." Matt Moore


Is that what's bouncing around your snakefilled head, Matt? Paranoid delusional; you know nothing about my family or heritage. As usual, you jump to conclude about people's backgrounds and beliefs and judge them based on your own twisted views.

I don't know anything about your upbringing but one thing's for sure and that is you were raised with no manners or self respect. If the verdict comes down again about your presence here, there's not one thing I'll miss about you. Can't wait to meet you in person.
nita

climber
chico ca
Nov 4, 2007 - 09:32pm PT
Sigh................................................................
Risk

Mountain climber
Minkler, CA
Nov 4, 2007 - 09:48pm PT
Visions of Pappy Boyington on Townsend. . . .
Dr. Taco

Social climber
New Freedonia, Caledonia
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2007 - 10:12pm PT
For the last time,

Not Rush Wal-Mart.

Not Mild Willie.

Just your average doc.

WandaFuca

Gym climber
San Fernando Lamas
Nov 4, 2007 - 10:23pm PT


No, Stinkeye, Wanda was not criticizing. You should change it back. Wanda likes the connotations and imagery that your new word creates.



GRUNGE-HUMP = Big Wall Sex
Risk

Mountain climber
Minkler, CA
Nov 4, 2007 - 11:27pm PT
Of course I did, with Merle and Pop's. And Sunnyside GC. Still have his shirt you gave me- "GB" insignia. GB is a big deal at my work.
screelover

Mountain climber
Canuckistan
Nov 5, 2007 - 01:23pm PT
This thread has a certain odour.

TKingsbury

Trad climber
MT
Nov 5, 2007 - 01:26pm PT
Most of these problems would be solved if y'all had the self control not to click on these threads, or the self control not to respond to them...
the Fet

Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
Nov 5, 2007 - 02:32pm PT
Cripes, it seems as though some of you don't have a scroll wheel on your mouse.

If I didn't I couldn't deal with...











































LOCKER
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Nov 5, 2007 - 03:04pm PT
"I dont think too many deserve the names, and A.C. appears to ocassionally agree, as his numerious edits show."

No, his editing is KNOTT because he because he thinks someone doesn't deserve to be called some name, it is to erase the evidence.
He then lies about ever posting it in the first place.

I can only conclude that his "supporters" actually condone his disrespectful personal attacks.
Guilt by association.


Edit:
Why would AC keep gay porn?
atchafalaya

climber
California
Nov 5, 2007 - 03:10pm PT
Fattrad for President!!!

Sh#t, I cant believe I just posted that. It is a Clash of Civilizatons though...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Nov 5, 2007 - 03:35pm PT
Let's knott forget this:

(direct link to post shown in screenshot below)
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=472692&msg=472880#msg472880

The apologists for Matthew Moore (and his supporters) should be ashamed...

dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Nov 5, 2007 - 03:55pm PT
well at least by his own addmission, crowley likes gay porn.

He did keep em after all.

That was awfully nice and thoughtful of whoever sent the porn to him to give crowley something he would enjoy!
GDavis

Trad climber
SoCal
Nov 5, 2007 - 04:06pm PT
Crowley stalked more than just the email of 2 people... probably closer to anyone thats disagreed with him or been annoyed enough to tell him to stfu.


Should he be removed? Nah. He's just f*#king annoying. The forums get that much more gay and that much less about actual climbing when he starts shooting his mouth off.


But really anyone who starts off topic threads does this. Some are cool, since this is like a little community. But I dont give a fu.ck about how your car won't start, or what your garden looks like, or how cute your dogs are.


Which is another thing.


Leave your dog at home, for christ's sake. Few weeks ago I was out at Josh falling off some boulder problem when 2 guys from LA showed up with a dog who was a 'little' hyper. Everytime I would mosey onto the starting holds, he would start humping. I'm tired of walking by Thin Wall and smelling dog sh#t, it's a pain in the ass to chase my sandwich down, and guess what, it's illegal in JT to have your dog off your campsite anyway. Leave Fifi at home, hes not cute, hes just annoying.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Nov 5, 2007 - 04:13pm PT
The beloved Matthew Moore wrote:

There is no email stalking or spamming, Roxjox.

Knotthead received a private inquiry about one of his threads, then a response to an insult.




I would call repeated, unsolicited e-mails spamming AND stalking.

Moore-on's first e-mail was probably a result of his heavy drinking, the only thing that
could account for missing the obvious. Perhaps it's because he's so combative and self-centered,
he assumed it had fuçk-all to do with him. Megalomania and booze are a bad combo, IMKSHO...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Nov 5, 2007 - 04:23pm PT
Booze-guzzling Crowley inexplicably wrote:

Knotthead received a private inquiry about one of his threads, then a response to an insult.

(second e-mail after zero response from me, including zero mention on forum)


You've now established yourself as a liar. Or delusional. Or way drunk. Which is it?

There was zero correspondence between us; I never responded to your e-mails.
So what exactly was the alleged insult you were responding to?
Dr. Taco

Social climber
New Freedonia, Caledonia
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2007 - 10:56am PT
Hardman, this latest exchange between you and Mr. Crowley has bolstered my faith in A. Crowley.

He can revise history, lie and obfuscate with the best of them!

A. CROWLEY in 2008

Dr. Taco
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