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Jerry Dodrill
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Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 29, 2007 - 02:42pm PT
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I just got some squash in the ground. Need some inspiration. Any gardners here? I have a brown thumb.
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Ouch!
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Jul 29, 2007 - 03:03pm PT
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"I have a brown thumb."
Locker edit........use more paper
DMT edit..............Ask LEB..the farmer
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
St. Looney
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Jul 29, 2007 - 03:07pm PT
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Ouch! I was VERY apprehensive scrolling down to see this "brown thumb" Haha!
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Ouch!
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Jul 29, 2007 - 03:09pm PT
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Sorry Crimpie. No graphics for this one.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jul 29, 2007 - 03:12pm PT
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I'm not the gardener, D is, but I do a lot of the labor, and I help eat what comes out of the garden, and I cook too.
We have a lot of fruit trees....
the orange produces from late December through May, this year we had so many that they are still dropping off the tree with the new crop coming on.
The lemons, two varieties, produce all the time. This last winters deep freeze caused a few problems, so we aren't into overproduction yet. I'm hoping this happens 'cause I have a sorbet recipe that I want to try out.
Figs, hmm, these are done but I love fresh figs off the tree.
Plumbs, we have a plumb left over from the last family who owned the house, they didn't know they had it... we unearthed it when we took out a lot of brushy plants they had planted. This year the tree is very happy, and I have to eat plumbs all the time (poor me).
Apricots, now coming on, though it's been cool this summer so far. Nothing like a tree ripened apricot.
The olive trees produce, but there is some fly that lays eggs in the olives. D hasn't figured out how to get the industrial solution in our yard yet... once she does, we'll be putting up our olive crop too.
There are three different grape vines in the yard. We eat the grapes and use the leaves to make various types of dolma.
Berry bushes, Blackberries, Loganberries, Tayberries (?), our freezer is full of frozen berries waiting to be made into berry pies..
Herbs: you name it, there is a bay tree, we don't need any from the store anymore... rosemarie, mint (different types), tyme, holy basel, regular basel, cilantro, parsley, lemon grass, are the mainstays.
Vegitables: several varieties of green beans, eggplant, tomato, squash; cucumbers too.
Last year we had wonderful cantaloupe... once again, so good when fresh!
We still have canned tomatoes from last year... we don't buy from the store anymore.
I'll see if I have a picture of the yard.
Hey Jerry, aren't you in Luther Burbank country? and you need inspiration!
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Ouch!
climber
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Jul 29, 2007 - 03:18pm PT
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Lois, how come you don't just plant seeds? Soak em overnight. They come up quickly and make stronger plants than you can buy.
Pickin' Maters. Check the bottom of the mater where the bud fell off. If you see any pink around the bud, pull em and set them on the counter. They will ripen quickly and taste exactly like fully vine ripened. Your plants will produce more and bigger ones.
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Ouch!
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Jul 29, 2007 - 03:32pm PT
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Lois, just let the plants grow a bit, then leave a couple of the strongest ones and whack the rest.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jul 29, 2007 - 03:43pm PT
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ok, as Lois states correctly, it depends on where you live...
here in California, the growing season is very long, D starts most of her annual crop as seed because we are having warm days even in Feb.
When we lived in western Massachusetts, we had everything started in the basement under grow lamps... I lived in fear of a DEA raid as I'm sure the thermal profile of our house looked suspicious... "just tomatoes, officer."
In PA, or elsewhere not a glorious as CA, you do what you have to do... in general though, D sez she doesn't buy anything big for anyplant. She prefers to grow it all herself.
I don't have a picture, our yard has some beautiful bits hear and there.. but when it's in production it's not too photogenic... but it is beautiful in many other ways.
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Ouch!
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Jul 29, 2007 - 04:45pm PT
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Lois, when I was a kid, we had this whole area in corn. Rows wound around about 1/4 mile to the Tenn River. Day after day of chopping out and thinning in the hot sun with 90% humidity. Plowed it with mules. We would ride the mules into the lake in the evening, get off and soap up and scrub off before supper.
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nita
climber
chico ca
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Jul 29, 2007 - 05:09pm PT
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Hey Ouch, I bought Okra at the farmers market yesterday, going to give it a try.
edit: I only have flowers in my garden.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jul 29, 2007 - 05:21pm PT
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I forgot to mention the peppers, Poblano, Serano, Jalepaneo....
...we grew ocra last year, best fresh... quick, hot fry with a good masala keeps them from getting gummy...
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Ouch!
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Jul 29, 2007 - 06:15pm PT
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Who knows Lois, you may have been A. P. Hill or George Pickett in your earlier life. Ask Werner. He knows about these things.
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Ouch!
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Jul 29, 2007 - 06:17pm PT
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Nita, you can bread that okra like shrimp and deep fry it whole.
Pan frying okra can take a little experience to get it right.
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Ouch!
climber
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Jul 29, 2007 - 06:30pm PT
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Lois, my grandfather fought for the Union. He was wounded and had two brothers killed. I hope you were not in the vicinity.
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Ouch!
climber
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Jul 29, 2007 - 06:44pm PT
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Well, I've always had a feeling that I was in the wrong century or maybe I have just been thinking backwards.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 29, 2007 - 06:55pm PT
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Back to the gardening
The Italian Green beans are done and what was't eaten imediately is in the freezer.
Boisenberries thankfully done also and about 10 gallons in the freezer. Not many Rasberries this year, but they are an every other year thing.
The Artichokes are coming back up for the fall crop.
Gave up on the Asperagus this year.
I think I've finaly got the summer squash figured out. Yellow Straight Neck! Not as overwhelming as Zuchini and heartier and longer producing than Crook Neck. A good compromise.
I had problems with blossom end rot on the tomatos this year. I'm gonna plow some gypsum in this winter to try to get the Calcium levels up for next year. I want to see if that's also why the letuce always turns out bitter also.
Plenty of Japanse Eggplant also.
No corn or winter squash this year, but there's still plenty of corn in the freezer from last year.
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nita
climber
chico ca
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Jul 29, 2007 - 07:16pm PT
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Where are the pictures- of the supposed gardens?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jul 29, 2007 - 08:10pm PT
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and then there's the pomegranate tree...
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JOEY.F
Social climber
sebastopol
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Jul 29, 2007 - 08:19pm PT
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Jerry,
K does the growing here, there's some tomatoes ready today!
thats the green thumb around here.
I do the landscape maintaince mostly.
There is a plum tree breaking from too much fruit.(I
think it's at least 40 yrs old)
and a loaded pear tree too.
Bodega climate is dicy, here too,
But, a container of herbs isn't hard,
if someone waters it while you're off on those big walls!
Take it easy,
Joe.
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Euroford
Trad climber
chicago
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Jul 29, 2007 - 08:33pm PT
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i help farm jumps.
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2007 - 09:31pm PT
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What eht heck happened here? Stepped a way for a while and... Blamo. Youz all must me growin' wacko weed. I expected more photos. You feelin okay Lois?
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spot
climber
Atascadero,Ca
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Jul 30, 2007 - 12:07am PT
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You don't know me from adam, but I had to go out and take a couple of pics of our garden, because jerry wants more pictures. It's small becuase we have to garden in rasied beds with wire bottoms to keep the *#&(@ gophers out.
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our squash/pumpkin patch
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our corn. found a sweet corn that's suppose to be red. My wife is also growing purple carrots. go figure.
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Jerry Dodrill
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Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 30, 2007 - 01:15am PT
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Hey, thanks ya'll. Ed, It would be easier if I just came over and ate out of your garden than try my own. Nonetheless, I'll have to keep at it. What I really want is tomatoes. I just don't know if it gets warm enough to ripen them this close to the coast. Ed, you're right that Burbank was right down the street in Sebastopol. Different here though. I'll have to take a look in my neighbors garden and see what he's got there.
I was real proud of myself starting squash from seed and getting five plants out of their pots, into the ground. They are flowering right now! Big orange flowers. Cool. But I guess it ain't a big deal to you veterans. Oh well. Also started some sweet basil, but its not doing so well.
LEB, why you're on the history kick, I'll contribute. There is a local potato here called the Bodega Red. Apparently the Russians were here a long long time ago and tried starting farms in Bodega valley to have fresh vegetables in their fort and to send along on the ships which were going back to the motherland with loads of otter pelts. The story goes that the gophers ultimately chased them out. They couldn't grow enough food to sustain themselves. Probably not entirely true, because they darn near annhilated the otters before they left, but the Bodega Red survived just barely and is still grown by a few locals today.
Anyone been to T. Addison's garden in El Cerrito? He always brings the oddest stuff to the crag...
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Jerry Dodrill
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Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 30, 2007 - 01:29am PT
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Man. Are you serious? I've got a single shot .22 with a gopher carved on the stock. Guess what I use it for... duh.
Oh, apparently after the Ruskies left, the Spaniards trick was to put chicken guts down the gopher holes. It worked.
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Matt
Trad climber
the land where lois don't roam
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Jul 30, 2007 - 02:04am PT
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hey jerry-
bummer this thread is light on pics, i'll post a few up tomorrow. we got a late jump, but now have i think 14 tomatoes in the dirt. what you need are specific tomatoes bred for cool weather- oregon state and others hav come up w/ some good varieties that ought to produce, even out there. the best thing to do is find local knowledge and local resources, and glean what you can from those who have already done the dirty work.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jul 30, 2007 - 02:11am PT
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Jerry, I'll ask D what she would recommend.. she was muttering somthing about "crabby looking tomato plants" this afternoon... not a good year.
Hey Matt, like your by-line... but Lois has roamed around these parts in the past, and in this life too I believe.
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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Jul 30, 2007 - 03:08pm PT
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hey ed- i actually forgot that was there- how's the new one?
jerry- any objection if i post up a new thread when i snap some pics? "let's see your garden" has 40+ posts and only 3 or 4 pics, come on...
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Jul 30, 2007 - 03:46pm PT
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LOL, growing season too short for seeds, hmmm.
Start your own plants, from seed, in effing january if need be, indoors or in green house.
This is not exactly a secret of gardening.
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scuffy b
climber
The deck above the 5
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Jul 30, 2007 - 04:11pm PT
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It's important to set a small enough size limit for your summer
squash. For most people, it's insanity to harvest them at the
size you find in stores.
If you harvest Zucchini at two inches instead of six inches, there may be hope. YMMV.
Some people have bacchanals involving the use of big Zucchini
and excess tomatoes as bats and balls.
Hit this, Sucker!!
...and it's another broken-bat blooper from Werner...
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salad
climber
San Diego
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Jul 30, 2007 - 04:33pm PT
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this was from a few years ago. everything that came out this garden was delicous.
this years isnt doing very well. our soil sucks at the new place.
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 30, 2007 - 04:43pm PT
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Nice Salad.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 30, 2007 - 07:54pm PT
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hey there... comeing from a poor person, with virtually no money, one would reckon a garden would be right nice for food---wellllllllll, in california, yeah... it was great, as the growing season took to spouting all kinds of great stuff (course, i was there with my folks)...
now, then, in south texas... near about the same kind of stuff will grow--and is just great too, for the pocket book.... some wonderful extras that will grow from seed easily, if you can't afford to set out store boughts, are:
cactus, and their fruit (called tUnas)... very good to eat...plus, if you just throw-down black eyed peas, they will sprout and you can eat the raw, as thin tender beans before they ever develope... then, papayas do great...and tomatoes...and okra do wonderful... watermelons, too...
now, here in michigan, my gardens have never seen the light of success, but then again, i dont got the money to buy early plants to set in the house, etc, til winter is long-gone... but shucks, one CAN eat some wonderful stuff from nature:
grape leaves ABOUND... and dandelions, galore... great stuff for when you're hungry :) ...and then, if you get to walk in the woods a bit, there is blackberries, raspberries, and on some occasions, wild strawberries, so this is the best i can hope for, for my garden days... as, i had tried corn and got a few cobs about as big as one in long, oh MYYYYYYY... (good thing the corn fields do better, under much better direction, i reckon, and well set plants)... hmmm,seems i got a mite too much shade in every home i have rented here.... tomatoes are barely at small green stage---welllll, i did get to fry a few green ones... poke does great, but only the baby greens are safe, to eat....did get a tiny bit of peas once...
say, wild thistles and knapweed abound, so they make a great flower garden, along with the poke plant--lovely flowers, on well.......... what i'm trying to say, you guys, is "HAPPY GARDENING!" ... WISH I WAS THERE... OR SOMEWHERE, to see it all!.... have fun!
as i need to stay here for bit, with some "adopted on family", i will take to enjoying the berries, and the dandelions and grapeleaves... at least fresh grape leaves are fun for cooking!
god bless... tote that shovel, and lift that compost and harvest some great food, you all....thanks for the fun share...
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Ouch!
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Jul 30, 2007 - 08:12pm PT
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"poke does great"
If you take the young poke shoots and slice them crossways, bread and fry, they taste like okra.
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Jerry Dodrill
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Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 30, 2007 - 08:43pm PT
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poke? what dat?
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Ouch!
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Jul 30, 2007 - 09:06pm PT
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Jerry, poke is a plant that has lots of poisonus parts when mature. Young leaves and shoots are edible and good. You can even buy it commercially canned.
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morphus
Mountain climber
Angleland
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Jul 31, 2007 - 03:39pm PT
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i'd like to see Lois' garden
in particular, the veg plot and orchard
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Ouch!
climber
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Jul 31, 2007 - 03:55pm PT
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DMT, would you have LEB post up some garden pictures? Thanks in advance.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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My wife and me trying to look Gothically American:
Our first stab at a garden in our new place in Seattle:
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there ouch... say, that's that poke plant all right.... mine is doing great in my yard, and there is more on the way... say, i forgot to mention... i got "tons" (well, you know) of milkweeds growing too, transplants from the woods and fields, just a few miles away (course, they still grow all over)... when the pods are youngs, you can boil them, and reboil them in soup... the aneeshnabees here, (native americans) had many family members that used them in potato soup... some folks just say to par boil first, so not so "whatever".... oh, well... thanks my garden for now...
say, i did know abaout eating the young shoots, but not that they had tasted like oka.. thanks for the tip...
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Ouch!
climber
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NeeBee, you want to pick the young tender shoots that have not started to turn red. Maybe about a foot long to fry like okra.
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Jay Wood
Trad climber
Fairfax, CA
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They say that at certain times of the year, in Sonoma county, it's not safe to leave your car unlocked.
You could come back from the store, and find your car filled with zucchini!
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Ouch!
climber
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Lois, those are nice books.
About all that overboiling of poke salet. That's not how we did it. Jusy pick the small tender leaves and use them. I think some people were bothered not by taking in the poke but were scorched a bit when it left. Probably used too large leaves.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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yeah, let's more photos, like Lois garden, and what ever happened to that quarry photo?
So Matt,is Bezerkely a Lois-free zone, now?
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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I myself am concentrating
my efforts on xeriscape.
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Ouch!
climber
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That's a cool garden, Jaybro. What did you do? Piss on that poor plant?
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morphus
Mountain climber
Angleland
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Bump for LEB's sweet garden
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Ouch!
climber
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Lois, I never ate purslane but a lot of folks love it. From the looks of him, Ghandi could have used a good helping of walleyes and hushpuppies. Maybe some biscuits and sawmill gravy.
I heard he was big on enemas.
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Ouch!
climber
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Lois, poke grew everywhere and early and was handy till garden greens and okra were big enough. Poverty was an issue also. Some people were so poor, they didn't have mice.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Just got back after picking (and snacking on) fresh blueberries from our neighbor's bushes -- they're huge and sweet right now. Corn, pumpkin, tomato, cucumber, lots of stuff coming soon.
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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I really had hope for this to be a cool thread-
...full of pictures of gardens and whatnot.
Oh well
I won't bother disrupting whatever is going on here w/ any annoying jpegs.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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poke,purslane before 'possum!
Matt, please, photos, show the rest of us what our gardens miss in this cool summer in the fog belt.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there... say, matt, great idea to see the post of pictures from these gardens... as it is the wonderful green parts of nature that we all love---say, my scanner is broke, so my odd meager garden may not get up here, our i would help out some... say, and god bless you all, as you partake of this great stuff come harvest time... which, may be, even now... in calif...
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Poke Salad Annie
If some of ya'll never been down South too much...
I'm gonna tell you a little bit about this,
So that you'll understand what I'm talking about
Down there we have a plant
That grows out in the woods and the fields,
Looks somethin' like a turnip green.
Everybody calls it Poke salad. Poke salad.
Used to know a girl that lived down there and
she'd go out in the evenings and pick a mess of it...
Carry it home and cook it for supper,
'Cause that's about all they had to eat,
But they did all right.
[sung]
Down in Louisiana
Where the alligators grow so mean
There lived a girl that I swear to the world
Made the alligators look tame
Poke salad Annie, poke salad Annie
Everybody said it was a shame
Cause her mama was working on the chain-gang
(A mean, vicious woman)
Everyday 'fore supper time
She'd go down by the truck patch
And pick her a mess o' polk salad
And carry it home in a tote sack
Poke salad Annie, 'gators got your granny
Everybody said it was a shame
'Cause her mama was aworkin' on the chain-gang
(a wretched, spiteful, straight-razor totin' woman,
Lord have mercy. Pick a mess of it)
Her daddy was lazy and no count
Claimed he had a bad back
All her brothers were fit for
Was stealin' watermelons out of my truck patch
Poke salad Annie, the gators got your granny
Everybody said it was a shame
Cause her mama was a working' on the chain gang
(Sock a little polk salad to me, you know I need a mess of it)
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Classic Fugu on a bed of Poke of uncertain age, now there's sport.
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2007 - 01:15pm PT
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Hey Matt. Let's see those photos! Just post em up without making a scene of it. Want to see what you're doing.
Well, I think the gophers may have gotten my squash. Gonna have to get some bullets...
...I can always eat gopher.
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Cool thread. I have no garden but neat stuff all...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Damnit, LEB, when are you gonna post a pic of that quarry?
DMT can surely find a quarry pic somewhere on the web.
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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jerry- just as soon as i am less buried i will start a tangent thread, for photos only, and we can link to this thread for the wandering discussion, how's that?
(maybe i am just waiting for the corn and pole beans to get taller while the basil varieties and mojito mints thicken up...? either way, i can tell you that the white peaches, the blueberries, and especially the strawberries all taste great in the morning, especially while eating breakfast in the hottub =)
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2007 - 03:19pm PT
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What ever you want to do Matt... are your garden and photos so good they need their own thread? We're unworthy!!! Perhaps Ed should start his own thread as well. LOL! Breakfast in the hot tub photos might be grounds for a new thread, as long as the pictures of your wife and not you. Double LOL! ;-)
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Ouch!
climber
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In a garden
In a hot tub
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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i thought i smelled something...
no jerry- it's just that this is not a picture thread (as i suspect you meant it to be).
and sure, i could post up lost of pictures of my wife, but ya'll who are interested in that pro'ly already know where you can find pics of chicks on the www...
edit- re: "are your garden pictures so good..."
now jerry, maybe if you were to come over and take pictures of my garden, then maybe we'd be gettin somewhere!
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2007 - 04:38pm PT
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I ain't steppin foot in there if you and fatty are boilin' in the pot. Ya'll'd make a fine stew I'm sure though.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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"this is another fine kettle you've gotten us into, Stan."
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G_Gnome
Sport climber
Everywhere, man...
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I knew fatty had a swelled head, but jesus!!!!!
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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been awhile since that dome has had souch a nice cover tho'...
edit-
here are some "before" shots-
(taken during our inspection, when we were buying the house last september, it's me, our agent, and the inspector in the 1st shot)
the previous owner had a 6 yr old, and a sunken sandbox, so that's where the hottub is now
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Ouch!
climber
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Matt, where are the vegetables growing?
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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ouch- they are growing in the butfore
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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after pics:
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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seems like i had the camera settings screwed up a bit, sorry for the fuzzies...
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Oh, bite me, you little american dream, success story kind of guy. Haha! and within walking distance to Indian rock? Pinko!
cheers!
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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this pic sucks a lot, but those are strawberries mounding ou both sides of the path
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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let them eat kale...
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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jay- closer to the bart tracks than to indian rock, which is why we also put in new windows
i have some more of those somewhere...
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Very cool pad, whatever it's close to, thanks!
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2007 - 11:13am PT
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Nice Matt! Wow, you do have a great garden. How do you ever find time to go climbing? and thanks for salvaging the thread. When's dinner?
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Ouch!
climber
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Very nice, Matt.
Now if we can just get Jaybro to do something about that garden he posted. LOL!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there matt... wow, nice yard... i found an old floppy with some old garden pics, to share for us "poor folks" as scanner will be broke for a long time... say, how do you all post pics in here, anyhow... obviously, not with tack and hammer to the ol' fence post... :)
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Matt
Trad climber
always on the lookout for ed's 5.10 OW van
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bump-
so where is everyone else's garden?
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