Dallas Shooting

we will see what happens to gun right after this

As far as I'm concerned, the fact this nation has been flooded with +300mil guns is a crime against humanity.

Unfortunately situations like that cause some innocent civilians to lose their life.

"When people say 'black lives matter,' it doesn't mean blue lives don't matter. It just means that all lives matter. But right now, the big concern is the fact that data shows black folks are more vulnerable to these kinds of incidents."

President Barack Obama spoke following the officer-involved shootings in Louisiana and Minnesota.

We can and will do this.

1. Stop the road pirates. This whole notion of police padding their budgets through fee collection is out of control.

2. Law Enforcement Clean Up.

3. Eliminate the Dept. of Homeland Security yard sale.

It doesnt help to have a president fuel the fire..

It doesnt help to have a president fuel the fire..

You're the racist and a hypocrite! Supporting violence and murder of White people based on their race!

That wasn't violence and murder of WHITE people by your own standards and beliefs - that is a brave urban militia exercising their second amendment rights to fight an oppressive and murderous government and if any survive to make it to trial that's exactly the defense I would make if I was their attorney. So long as we are flooded with guns and people think like you this is will always be the inevitable outcome.

They're turning this country into Zimbabwe.


YES, they want to kill White people, they're targeting White people based on their race all the time, harassing and menacing, daily, killing and attacking White people based on race -- only lying liberal media does not say the true motives when they cover these crimes -- liberal-controlled police is forced to suppress true motives of these attacks.


One in the right mind should get out of so called multi-racial areas, if they're White, as law does not protect them against any hate crime based on their race.


And those ninnies are talking about banning guns? So that they can be easily slaughtered, eventually, when there's a civil war or other major unrest here.

kattz (from first ST post): ...I'm planning to permanently leave the States in several years...

Except in this case the cops took him out, so maybe he's really just a poor oppressed individual that deserves your unbiased support.

Cliven Bundy's a f*#king moron. I've said that from the start.

LM (Black Lives Matter) is a terrorist organization.

It should banned and its members arrested.

Lying Obama tries to blame this incident on "guns" (the usual MO of liberals)...no, it's his BLM buddies, the terrorists, why doesn't he say it straight?!

“Twice this week, first in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, then in St. Paul Minnesota, tragic, deadly incidents in which black men were killed by police officers have left families and communities shattered while re-igniting anger and racial tensions in cities across the country. Our heartfelt thoughts and prayers are with the families of both victims and the communities that are struggling to make sense of these tragedies.
“But thoughts and prayers are not enough. These fatal confrontations are yet another reminder that similar incidents have been and continue to be a serious problem in our nation, and they expose a larger issue plaguing our criminal justice system.

“Although investigations are ongoing, we must take strong, decisive action now, and in the long term, to protect the innocent and eliminate any appearance or reality of racial bias in law enforcement.

“Democrats are also committed to rebuilding the bonds of trust between law enforcement and the communities they serve. We are committed to reforming our criminal justice system and ending mass incarceration. We are committed to investing in officer training for de-escalation and the appropriate use of force. We encourage better police-community relations and the use of smart strategies that build trust and confidence. And we also encourage communities everywhere, especially in the wake of terrible tragedies like these, to remember that the vast majority of men and women who serve in law enforcement do so honorably, putting themselves in harm’s way to protect us. And while most protesters have made their voices heard peacefully, tonight’s shooting of officers in Dallas is unacceptable and a reminder that the time to address these tensions and find common ground is long overdue.

“As we mourn and join together to heal, we must recommit ourselves to the work of preventing further violence. We cannot rest until all of our streets and neighborhoods are safe for Americans of all races.”

and in the long term, to protect the innocent and eliminate any appearance or reality of racial bias in law enforcement.

I find it interesting that it took the unjust killing of two ARMED black men in remote locations to set off a murderous protest against police.

BLM (Black Lives Matter) is a terrorist organization.

It should banned and its members arrested.

It needs to start with eliminating the preface of "white, black, brown, etc." from the word people.

Of course if we want to go forward, then it needs to be translated to all lives matter, but that needs to start with white people going out and protesting with black people when black people have a legitimate concern. which seems to be happening daily.

The Black Lives Matter Network advocates for dignity, justice, and respect.

In the last few days, this country witnessed the recorded murders of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile at the hands of police, the latest victims in this country’s failed policing system. As we have done for decades, we marched and protested to highlight the urgent need to transform policing in America, to call for justice, transparency and accountability, and to demand that Black Lives Matter.

In Dallas, many gathered to do the same, joining in a day of action with friends, family, and co-workers. Their efforts were cut short when a lone gunman targeted and attacked 11 police officers, killing five. This is a tragedy–both for those who have been impacted by yesterday’s attack and for our democracy. There are some who would use these events to stifle a movement for change and quicken the demise of a vibrant discourse on the human rights of Black Americans. We should reject all of this.

Black activists have raised the call for an end to violence, not an escalation of it. Yesterday’s attack was the result of the actions of a lone gunman. To assign the actions of one person to an entire movement is dangerous and irresponsible. We continue our efforts to bring about a better world for all of us.

The killing of police officers in Dallas is an act of war.

(4) the term “act of war” means any act occurring in the course of—
(A) declared war;
(B) armed conflict, whether or not war has been declared, between two or more nations; or
(C) armed conflict between military forces of any origin;

The killing of police officers in Dallas is an act of war.

All Americans should be deeply troubled by the fatal shootings of Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, Louisiana and Philando Castile in Falcon Heights, Minnesota. We've seen such tragedies far too many times, and our hearts go out to the families and communities who've suffered such a painful loss.

Although I am constrained in commenting on the particular facts of these cases, I am encouraged that the U.S. Department of Justice has opened a civil rights investigation in Baton Rouge, and I have full confidence in their professionalism and their ability to conduct a thoughtful, thorough, and fair inquiry.

But regardless of the outcome of such investigations, what's clear is that these fatal shootings are not isolated incidents. They are symptomatic of the broader challenges within our criminal justice system, the racial disparities that appear across the system year after year, and the resulting lack of trust that exists between law enforcement and too many of the communities they serve.

To admit we've got a serious problem in no way contradicts our respect and appreciation for the vast majority of police officers who put their lives on the line to protect us every single day. It is to say that, as a nation, we can and must do better to institute the best practices that reduce the appearance or reality of racial bias in law enforcement.

That's why, two years ago, I set up a Task Force on 21st Century Policing that convened police officers, community leaders, and activists. Together, they came up with detailed recommendations on how to improve community policing. So even as officials continue to look into this week's tragic shootings, we also need communities to address the underlying fissures that lead to these incidents, and to implement those ideas that can make a difference. That's how we'll keep our communities safe. And that's how we can start restoring confidence that all people in this great nation are equal before the law.

In the meantime, all Americans should recognize the anger, frustration, and grief that so many Americans are feeling -- feelings that are being expressed in peaceful protests and vigils. Michelle and I share those feelings. Rather than fall into a predictable pattern of division and political posturing, let's reflect on what we can do better. Let's come together as a nation, and keep faith with one another, in order to ensure a future where all of our children know that their lives matter.

Obama used the word data!

Obama used the word data!

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln

...and was disparaged by my fellow liberals.

Ill give Obama credit on one thing CHANGE..
He sure has changed the country for the worst..

Ill give Obama credit on one thing CHANGE..
He sure has changed the country for the worst..

Obama, the "Black Lives Matter" participants, and anti-cop dipshitz such as post on this forum are to blame for cultivating the culture that led to this tragedy. They are #2 on the blame list right behind the perpetrator.

climber
Occupied Territory

Jul 8, 2016 - 11:08am PT
Obama, the "Black Lives Matter" participants, and anti-cop dipshitz such as post on this forum are to blame for cultivating the culture that led to this tragedy. They are #2 on the blame list right behind the perpetrator

Obama, the "Black Lives Matter" participants, and anti-cop dipshitz such as post on this forum are to blame for cultivating the culture that led to this tragedy. They are #2 on the blame list right behind the perpetrator.

As the political world waits to see if the former Georgia congressman and U.S. House speaker gets tapped to be Donald Trump’s running mate, Gingrich teamed up with his former Crossfire partner Van Jones to discuss this week’s shootings in Dallas, Baton Rouge and Minnesota.

Speaking on Facebook Live, Gingrich was his typically direct self. But, in this age of polarized politics, whether it be of the electoral or racial variety, Gingrich’s comments were also remarkable. Here is the key quote:

“It took me a long time, and a number of people talking to me through the years to get a sense of this. If you are a normal, white American, the truth is you don’t understand being black in America and you instinctively under-estimate the level of discrimination and the level of additional risk.”

White parents, Gingrich continued, don’t have to teach their teenage boys to be extra careful when dealing with police “because it’s not part of your normal experience.”

Gingrich wasn’t finished. He described moving from a largely integrated life as a son of an Army officer to Georgia in 1960.

“It was still legally segregated, which meant the local sheriff and National Guard would impose, by force, the taking away of rights of Americans. We’ve come a fair distance, now we have a black mayor of Atlanta, and have had a series of them in fact. We have John Lewis who went from marching on Selma to a Democratic whip in Congress. But we’ve stalled out on the cultural, economic, practical progress we needed.”

That lack of progress, Gingrich said, “creates the kind of alienation where it begins to become legitimate to think about, whether it’s in songs or slogans or whatever, the shooting of policemen. If we were to continue in this direction of alienation on both sides, you could really be a very coarse and dangerous society in 10 or 15 years.”

With this change, all the other stuff comes easy......

Well, we certainly didn't get much for our money now did we?

It's possible to be pro law enforcement, recognize there is a problem among many (but not most) officers in their treatment of African Americans and try to find solutions. Most people are probably somewhere on this spectrum.

The "anti-cop dipshitz" rhetoric does nothing except push people into their corners or shut them up

Just the strongest economy in the world

With the country flooded with guns thanks to the NRA and people such as yourself, cops are on edge every time they interact with the public. That's why a guy with a concealed carry permit gets shot in his car.

actually we have been in direct support of terrorism with the admins support of the "rebels" which is the propaganda term to collectively describe various islamic terrorist groups actively invading soverign nations with the end goal of an islamic state/caliphate

which has caused the largest displacement of humans in the history of man

not to mention our support of islamic terrorist groups being blatantly illegal under international laws

Didn't finish because I know this line of reasoning.

need of firearms for sporting purposes such as hunting

Suggested Civility Guidelines:

Combine that with your basic hysterical second amendment rhetoric and proliferation of guns and just how it is that anyone could claim the Dallas shootings are anything but a legitimate militia action against an oppressive government is beyond me.

BLM (Black Lives Matter) is a terrorist organization.

It should banned and its members arrested.

Obama, the "Black Lives Matter" participants, and anti-cop dipshitz such as post on this forum are to blame for cultivating the culture that led to this tragedy. They are #2 on the blame list right behind the perpetrator.

but why argue different points of view when we have data.

Here’s a simple truth: If we banned all guns tomorrow, the nation would be almost instantly transformed, exclusively for the better.

Here’s a simple truth: If we banned all guns tomorrow, the nation would be almost instantly transformed, exclusively for the better.

The simple truth is that there would be a very large and bloody insurgency if it were even attempted.

And you are an idiot. Hopefully you will need their help some day and they won't get there in time.

But maybe we can learn?

That's cool - we all think stuff. A paragon of racial virtue hypothetically agrees with your racial perspective? Sure, he worships me too in my own mind. Humans ...

Black Lives Matter bullshit

People killing people is pleasurable

That's not true and saying it does no good...

People say lowering taxes on people would create less GDP. It grew.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,

More guns don't guarantee more gun violence.

I think it's pretty clear the opposite is true. As gun ownership increases, violent crime decreases. And thanks for the stats.

Pardon my Drive by. Packing for some much needed climbing.

All this sh#t is horrible. Cops making mistakes, Cops killing people unwarranted, and the Black Lives matters bullsh#t.

Our society is f*#ked! This all started with Ferguson.

We have a god damn leader who refuses to call a spade a spade. Since then this movement has only increased, and tensions have risen. We have f*#king Islamic terrorist and black thugs doing stupid sh#t and instead of calling a spade a spade, we call it something else. Pour black thug......... Pour non Islamic terrorist gay dude......... For f*#k sake. Maybe the guy in the car was unjust..... It happens. It sucks...... But, the good majority are flat out thugs.


Here you go........,


I don't give one flying rats ass if a Thug is gunned down. White or black!!!!!!!

This hole media crazed black lives matter, race bating bullshit is what lead to this.

You can thank the media and the president for creating a notion that thugs lives matter.

Now we get thugs thinking they are rightfully justified in shooting innocent people.

Sh#t needs to end. Thugs are thugs! If they happen to be black, Muslim, white, I don't give a sh#t. If a cop pulls you over and you don't comply chances are you're a thug.

The world is better without you.

Had to vent! Sh#t pisses me off sorry!

Something has changed, and it's not good. To blame this on Obama is all deflection and fantasy as far as I'm concerned.

Meanwhile, I smell like a f*#king skunk. My dog got sprayed last night when I took the kids to grandma's. Oh if only someone with a gun was there to save us. Or, maybe a tomato bath.

Edit for pyro's schooling:
Stigmatism, another word for astigmatism, is defined as a condition of the eye or lens where rays of light from a single point do not focus upon on a single point on the retina.

An example of stigmatism is when the cornea of the eye is shaped like a football, not round as it should be, causing rays of light to focus in front of or behind the retina.

He didn't create the KKK or lynch mobs. He didn't create segregation, whites only businesses, water fountains, swimming pools etc. WE THE WHITE PEOPLE did that.

[Wash Times] Sheriff Clarke, appearing on "Fox and Friends" to discuss Micah Xavier Johnson, the 25-year-old man accused of ambushing Dallas police officers at a peaceful Black Lives Matter protest, said Mr. Obama uses the bully pulpit after tragedies in ways that sow anger and resentment among the population.

"He's usually popping off at the mouth before he's been briefed or before he knows any of the facts like he did yesterday," the sheriff said regarding Mr. Obama's response to the two black men in Louisiana and Minnesota who were fatally shot by police officers.

"Without any foundation, he talked about racism and disparate treatment and people of color -- all this nonsense," the sheriff continued. "Like I said, he's armed with powerful words and he uses those words irresponsibly. It fuels this sort of anger towards the American police officer. I wish he'd knock it off."

Oh, it used to be our fault, when we enslaved, beat, hung, raped and burnt them.
Now it's their fault and we're completely innocent because we erased racism long ago.

Got it.

Oh, it used to be our fault, when we enslaved, beat, hung, raped and burnt them.
Now it's their fault and we're completely innocent because we erased racism long ago.

Got it.

District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held in a 5-4 decision that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution applies to federal enclaves and protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

Crime is down NYC...

Existed forever, with the locals enslaving and selling locals.

A man who called 911 to report a car break-in Friday ambushed a south Georgia police officer dispatched to the scene, sparking a shootout in which both the officer and suspect were wounded, authorities said. Both are expected to survive.

The shooting in Valdosta, just north of the Georgia-Florida state line, happened hours after five police officers were killed Thursday night during an ambush in Dallas.

A black Army veteran accused of shooting indiscriminately at passing cars and police on a Tennessee highway told investigators he was angry about police violence against African Americans, authorities said Friday.

It was one of several spasms of violence across the country this week amid boiling tensions over policing and race.

One woman died and three others, including one police officer, were injured in the rampage early Thursday.

Meanwhile, police said officers have been targeted in Georgia and Missouri in the aftermath of two high-profile killings of black men by law enforcement and the Dallas attack that left five officers dead and seven more wounded. Other departments reported being bombarded with threats and some implemented new policies requiring officers to patrol in pairs.

Civilians also have been caught in the fray. The woman who died in Tennessee was a newspaper carrier driving down the highway.

I like to keep it civil, but sorry pyro,

TradEddie:
A bad guy with a gun that couldn't even be stopped by hundreds of good guys with guns? It took a robot and C4, so perhaps we should all be able to buy those too?

(CNN)The Bahamas' Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Immigration is warning its citizens traveling to the United States of "recent tensions in some American cities over shootings of young black males by police officers."

The government of the majority-black Caribbean nation emphasized in an statement Friday that its travelers should avoid crowds and demonstrations in the U.S. Young men, specifically, should "exercise extreme caution in affected cities in their interactions with the police ... Do not be confrontational and cooperate."
The warning comes ahead of the country's Independence Day on Monday, a public holiday when many Bahamians plan to travel to the United States.

(CNN)The Bahamas' Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Immigration is warning its citizens traveling to the United States of "recent tensions in some American cities over shootings of young black males by police officers."

Here’s a simple truth: If we banned all guns tomorrow, the nation would be almost instantly transformed, exclusively for the better.

And white American's greatest threat is other white Americans.

I find it very bizare that many privlaged white americans have been conditioned to think all other white people are the problem while they themselves are somehow "above" it all. These people are the ones quickest to spout anti white rhetoric as well while somehow thinking their whiteness is of no concern because its those OTHER white people who are evil....
this mindset is also directed at kids who are literally being taught that "white privilege" is somehow real and that your skin color again defines your moral values or place in society.

The FBI crime-stats are considered to be the go-to reference too. Non-partisan, just numbers, facts, data. Raw.

It's not so amazing that people refuse to look at these figures. They dispel every politically-correct stement about racism and guns killing people.

No wonder they ignore the facts, doesn't fit the 'desired' narrative.

Bluering you are so fookin clueless about race in America.