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nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 17, 2015 - 03:47pm PT
this thread has been renamed and reorganized and moved to the following threads:

SUPERTOPO CLIMBING GOLD: 2.1 Threads: Individuals
SUPERTOPO CLIMBING GOLD: 2.2 Threads: Areas + Routes
SUPERTOPO CLIMBING GOLD: 2.3 Threads: Climbing Conversation

please make all suggestions to those threads and let this one die... :)
Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Mar 17, 2015 - 04:46pm PT
Wow…..

nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
time for some catch up:

finally added RyanD's most recent suggestions:

to typologies:
ROOF CRACKS!!!!!! [P.Kingsbury: Jan.9, 2009]

to areas: yosemite:
What were the first few routes on Cookie cliff? [john hansen: Mar. 6, 2009]
The history of New Dimensions? [Alexey: Apr. 10, 2009]

to areas: canadian rockies:
canadian rockies triptychs [nah000: Aug. 16, 2014]

to areas: canadian coast:
The Eldred [kinnikinik: Nov. 8, 2009]
The Chehalis Peaks [Ghost: Jun. 10, 2011]




and from Hardly Visible, RyanD's new competition for miner in chief:

to ethics + style:
Regional climbing rivalries: examples? [Rick A: Jun. 24, 2007]

to gear + techniques:
Offwidth Question [James: Nov. 1, 2005]

to people:
Don Whillans in California in 1966 [michaelj: Apr. 23, 2012]

to areas:
The Crucifix [Gobi: Feb. 24, 2009]



and from Steve Grossman:

to the ladies:
No Spare Rib, Rosie Andrews, Women's Climbing 1984 [Mimi: Mar. 4, 2008]

overwatch

climber
Mar 17, 2015 - 05:10pm PT
I post very rarely anymore unless something goes above and beyond. your effort definitely qualifies thank you
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Mar 17, 2015 - 05:47pm PT
The Mussy Nebula is a Serial Thread, not about an individual. Russ is just the black hole at the center of the whole thing.

I: Deep Space Time Machine from the Mussy Nebula http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/158234/Deep-Space-Time-Machine-from-the-Mussy-Nebula

II: The Madness Continues http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/162184/Mussy-Nebula-The-Madness-Continues-Part-II

III: A Public Outrage http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/164463/Mussy-Nebula-A-Public-Outrage-Part-III

IV: The Insult Continues http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/165570/Mussy-Nebula-The-Insult-Continues-Part-IV

V: Feelin' the Luv Babee http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/166731/Mussy-NEB-Feelin-the-Luv-Babee-Part-V

VI: It's a Tribal Thing, Bra http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/168021/Mussy-NEB-Its-a-Tribal-Thing-Bra-Part-VI

VII: Goofiness, A Studied Elegance http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/169553/Mussy-NEB-Goofiness-a-Studied-Elegance-Part-VII

VIII: No Turnin' Back! http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/171161/Mussy-NEB-No-Turnin-Back-Part-VIII

IX: All The Way Down The Bunny Hole http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/171733/Mussy-Neb-All-The-Way-Down-The-Bunny-Hole-part-whutever

X: Slack in the Day http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/172698/Mussy-NEB-Slack-in-the-Day-Part-X

XI: Beyond the MussyDome http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/173604/Mussy-Nebula-Part-11-Beyond-the-MussyDome

XII: Down 'N Dirty http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/174168/Mussy-NEB-Down-N-Dirty-Part-12

XIII: A warped trip to Mussypotamia http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/175955/Mussy-Nebula-part-13-a-warped-trip-to-Mussypotamia


I think it all fizzles down with #13, seems kinda fitting.
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2015 - 12:03pm PT
Off White: complete agreement! i've been planning on getting to that one, but because i'd like to create and include it in a section for tarbuster at some point, i haven't got around to it yet... i also haven't got around to sorting through grossman's threads and so only a handful of them are currently organized into the threads section. because i don't get paid for this and just do it as the ocd kicks in it might be days, weeks, or months, before i pop back up and keep pluggin' away :)

so to you and everyone else, don't worry if i don't get to your suggestions right away... the toque will get too tight eventually, and i'll drop back in to do a little housekeeping as the spirit moves...

until then, thanks to those who have made kind comments and keep the suggestions coming...
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Mar 18, 2015 - 12:48pm PT
No worries, you're doing great work. I hoped that running down the links for all those threads might help you a little bit, but I know you've got your own formatting thing going on. Thanks a bunch, your indexes are all bookmarked on my computer.
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2015 - 05:11pm PT
from T Hocking to Typologies:Unclimbed:
Obscure Rock from Nevada and Elsewhere [johnnyrig: Nov. 14, 2014]

and from Spider Savage to Stories:
The five stages of “backing-off” climbs. [Fritz: Dec. 19, 2009]

nice ones...
phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Mar 19, 2015 - 06:57pm PT
Astounding!
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 27, 2015 - 12:01pm PT
A. Individuals: Chuck Pratt: http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/861139/Chuck-Pratt
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Mar 27, 2015 - 02:15pm PT
Good one Mister E!
One good thing leads to some others...

Stories:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/391916/Old-Geezers-Yes-you-Write-up-your-FA-Stories-and-tidbits


Individuals:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/367615/Chris-Fredricks-where-he-be
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Mar 27, 2015 - 02:56pm PT
Individuals:

Bridwell stories

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/68084/bridwell-stories


Jim Bridwell appreciation thread

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=800705&tn=0&mr=0
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Mar 27, 2015 - 03:07pm PT

B. AREAS AND ROUTES

Fontainebleau: Fontainebleau - The Dream Forest of French Bouldering: http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/733324/Fontainebleau-The-Dream-Forest-of-French-Bouldering (Steve Grossman, Nov 29, 2008)
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Mar 27, 2015 - 06:59pm PT
Ethics & style:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2110264/What-Is-Trad
MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Mar 27, 2015 - 07:52pm PT
Excellent plan and execution.

Just putting this here to see if it makes the Universe implode:

http://web.stanford.edu/~clint/index/
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Mar 27, 2015 - 10:52pm PT
Areas & routes:

Routes in Index WA

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1007138&tn=0&mr=0
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2015 - 01:49pm PT
added Off White's nomination of the Mussy Nebula series to both a So Cal Climbing Culture category under Areas above, as well as to a new Tarbuster's Campfire Conversation Curation category in the serial thread section...

also added this strangely interesting valley nicknames thread to the so cal culture category:
Valley Nick-Names [marty(r): Jul. 1, 2004



nice suggestions everyone else... keep 'em coming and i'll continue to add 'em, as the spirit moves...
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Mar 28, 2015 - 02:21pm PT
nice work!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Mar 28, 2015 - 05:04pm PT
THIS IS AWESOME, bump

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=362288&tn=40#msg2601653


Kinda a nice short Gunks thing with some fun deeper history,
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Mar 31, 2015 - 04:56pm PT
AREAS & ROUTES:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/181526/Black-Canyon-Stories


http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/199706/More-Black-Canyon-Stories
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 31, 2015 - 06:21pm PT
Nice mining, everyone - nah000, you are a master of the intrawebs.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujň de la Playa
Mar 31, 2015 - 06:25pm PT
Interesting how much hard work is unappreciated (well under anyway).


MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 31, 2015 - 07:03pm PT
^^The work is it's own reward, perhaps - but posting it makes it communal.
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 1, 2015 - 09:07am PT
INDIVIDUALS:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1628602/Tobin-Sorenson
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 1, 2015 - 09:29am PT
INDIVDUALS:

Watusi nostalgia photos

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1498290&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 1, 2015 - 09:29pm PT
INDIVIDUALS:

Bob van Belle appreciation

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=324482&tn=0&mr=0
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2015 - 10:02pm PT
thanks MisterE. very nice:
to Individuals: Chuck Pratt [Doug Robinson: May 18, 2009]


you're killin' it HV. added em:
to Individuals: Chris Fredricks -- where he be? [Largo: Apr. 26, 2007]
bridwell stories [bruce ostler: Apr. 8, 2005]
Jim Bridwell Appreciation thread [Pate: Mar. 5, 2009]
Tobin Sorenson [Brunosafari: Oct. 5, 2011]
Watusi nostalgia photos [Watusi: May 13, 2011]
Bob Van Belle Appreciation [helyje: Feb. 16, 2007]
to areas + routes: routes In Index WA [crazygremlin: Nov. 10, 2009]
Black Canyon Stories [Grug: Apr. 17, 2007]
More Black Canyon Stories [Tarbuster: May 26, 2006]
to stories: Old Geezers! (Yes you!) Write up your FA Stories and tidbits [Karl Baba: Jun. 4, 2007]
to ethics + style: What Is Trad ????????? [Tarbuster: Apr. 8, 2008]


you rock the european content around here Marlow... love you guys that throw down formatting for me! thanks!
to areas + routes: Fontainebleau - The Dream Forest of French Bouldering [Steve Grossman, Nov 29, 2008]


a new comer! thanks GOtD:
to areas: Welcome to the Gunks! [TradIsGood: Apr. 17, 2007]


and to MH2: i can tell you're one of those guys who just likes to sit back and watch the world burn. nice attempt at throwing a black hole into a black hole just to see what happens... :) and thanks for the kind words... i'm still thinking of what to do with that link, as it's a hell of a good one.


finally, thanks to all of the [presumed] dudes... i know the ladies are generally underrepresented at this sausage party, but i know there are at least a couple of you out there and it'd be cool to hear some of your favourites as well!
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 1, 2015 - 10:58pm PT
Individuals:

Mike graham appreciation

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=436658&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 1, 2015 - 11:16pm PT
Yosemite routes (misc.)

What's the deal with Fish crack?

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=450527&tn=0&mr=0


The Cringe

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=328855&tn=0&mr=0


Hang dog flyer

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=66702&tn=0&mr=0


Left side of the Remnant

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=466853&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 2, 2015 - 10:33pm PT
Climbers:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/532281/What-happened-to-all-the-Glory-Boys-Girls
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 3, 2015 - 08:44am PT
Typologies:

Chimneys; not for everyone

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=420050&tn=0&mr=0
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Apr 3, 2015 - 09:30am PT

I will not break the rules by suggesting one of the threads I started, the Welsh Rock thread, but I feel free to suggest that someone suggests the Welsh Rock thread because of the information content and the many great contributions on the thread.

To make it easy - Welsh Rock: http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2269521/Welsh-Rock (Marlow, Nov 13, 2013)
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 3, 2015 - 09:39am PT
CLIMBERS:

Eldo prancers

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=408821&tn=0&mr=0
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Apr 3, 2015 - 09:51am PT
I will not break the rules by suggesting one of the threads I started, the Welsh Rock thread

Welsh Rock: http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2269521/Welsh-Rock (Marlow, Nov 13, 2013)

I see what you did there. %^)
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 3, 2015 - 09:54am PT
AREAS & ROUTES:

Yosemite (history)

El cap- 50 years ago today

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=418863&tn=0&mr=0
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Apr 3, 2015 - 09:56am PT

Mr. E. Thanks ^^^^

Hardly Visible: No doubt an official suggestion.
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 3, 2015 - 10:04am PT
Marlow,

It looks good to me, this should make it official.

AREAS & ROUTES:

Welsh Rock

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2269521&tn=0&mr=0
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Apr 3, 2015 - 08:00pm PT
here is a list worthy of mining and a thread worthy of consideration from Deucey.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2485453/The-1980s-The-missing-history-Players
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 4, 2015 - 02:22pm PT
INDIVIDUALS:

Skip Guerin Appreciation Thread

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=397006&tn=0&mr=0
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2015 - 09:49pm PT
Big Mike's On + Not-So-On Topic Photo Thread Compendium:


On Topic:
By the sea, the shining sea [MH2: Nov. 17, 2008]
Best Buildering Photo Contest [survival: Nov. 26, 2008]
Old Camp Four etc. Photos [throwpie: May 18, 2010]
What did you climb today! [mike m: Oct. 27,2010]
Occupy Supertopo with Climbing Info [mike m: Oct. 5, 2011]
Climbing Photos and Videos Corner - Your content only [Mungeclimber: Mar. 7, 2015]

On + Not-So-On Topic:
Every Picture Tells A Story Don't It [Guido: Mar. 25, 2010]
Black and White.... on or off topic images. [EdBannister: Jul. 14, 2011]
A picture a day keeps the Dr away [this just in: Jan. 20, 2013]
taking selfies to the next level (OT) [anita514: Jan. 15, 2014]
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 4, 2015 - 10:35pm PT
AREAS & ROUTES:

Yosemite routes (misc.)

The Good Book

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=375077&tn=0&mr=0


An early ascent of the right side of the folly

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=383333&tn=0&mr=0


What is it about Arch Rock

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=353792&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 5, 2015 - 09:28am PT
Climbers & Climbers photos:

Old school photos

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=328478&tn=0&mr=0


1982- jtree

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=525373&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 6, 2015 - 09:58am PT
STORIES:

Largo writing contest

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=178153&tn=0&mr=0


A definite must read, or should I say muss read.
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 8, 2015 - 09:29am PT
TYPOLOGIES:

Best Hand Cracks around- which ones are the best?

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=432925&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Apr 10, 2015 - 09:48am PT
I am sure Nah000 will be happy to hear that I'm going on the road for a while, so no more meddlesome nominees from me for his hall of fame compilation till next month. Until then here is one more nugget unearthed out of the coal pile...

INDIVDUALS:

TM Herbert appreciation

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=289339&tn=0&mr=0
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Apr 19, 2015 - 12:53am PT

B. AREAS + ROUTES:

The Eiger Mordwand: http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1560360/The-Eiger-Mordwand Jul 22, 2011 (Toker Villain)

North Face of the Eiger: Who's done it? http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2288548/North-Face-of-the-Eiger-Whos-done-it Dec 8, 2013 (BASE104)
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
May 8, 2015 - 10:49am PT
Some more gold from BVB for the areas and routes section:

Big Rocks!

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2053023&tn=0&mr=0
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2015 - 11:27pm PT
busy times + a new logic board = slow to compile. so, thanks to the contributors for keeping the faith...



i bequeath the mostly awol RyanD's title of miner-in-chief to Hardly Visible... as usual: veddy veddy nice work:

to individuals:
Graham, Mike: Mike Graham Appreciation Thread [Sewellymon: Aug. 20, 2007]
Guerin, Skip: Skip Guerin Appreciation Thread [Blowboarder: Jun. 11, 2007]
Herbert, TM: TM Herbert appreciation [Wild Bill: Dec. 4, 2006]

to areas + routes:
UK: Welsh Rock: [Marlow: Nov 13, 2013]
Utah: Big Rocks! [bvb: Jan. 23, 2013]
yosemite [history]: El Cap- 50 years Ago Today [Sewellymon: Jul. 19, 2007]
yosemite routes [misc.]: An early ascent of The Right Side of the Folly [Roger Breedlove: May 20, 2007]
..... Hang dog Flyer [Peewee: Mar. 25, 2005]
..... Left Side of the Remnant [Largo: Oct. 17, 2007]
..... The "Cringe" [Largo: Feb. 24, 2007]
..... The Good Book [NoRushNoMore: May 7, 2007]
...... What is it about Arch Rock? [caughtinside: Apr. 23, 2007]
...... What's the deal with Fish Crack? [Nefarius: Sep. 16, 2007]

to typologies:
Chimneys: Chimneys; Not for everyone [Todd Gordon: Jul. 21, 2007]
Cracks: Best Hand Cracks around - which ones are the best? [Levy: Aug. 13, 2007]

to climbers and climber's photos:
..... 1982- jtree [the kid: jan. 29, 2008]
..... What happened to all the "Glory Boys/Girls" [Russ Walling: Feb. 7, 2008]
..... Eldo Prancers [bob d'antonio: Jul. 2, 2007]
..... Old School Photos [bob d'antonio: Feb. 23, 2007]

to stories:
Largo Writing Contest [looking sketchy there...: Apr. 10, 2006]



Marlow: very nice use of a loop hole. a lawyer by trade maybe? i firmly believe there is no rule that shouldn't be without at least a small loop hole. and very nice eiger suggestions:

Alps: North Face of the Eiger: Who's done it? [BASE104: Dec. 8, 2013]
..... The Eiger Mordwand [Toker Villain: Jul .22, 2011]



thanks MisterE: good suggestion, but it's already on there...


thanks gents.
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
May 23, 2015 - 10:04am PT
Glad you're back on it nah, here's three more entries for the individuals section...

Ron Kauk appreciation thread

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=930128&tn=0&mr=0


Mike and Mari

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=170196&tn=0&mr=0


Hugh Burton

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=65463&tn=0&mr=0


And here's one for the Climbers and Climber's photos section...

Where are they now? Old Leavenworth (Wa.) Climbers

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1099882&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
May 24, 2015 - 02:36pm PT
Here's another couple of threads to go under Warren Harding in the individuals section...

Warren Harding's letter quitting the American Alpine Club

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1006411&tn=0&mr=0


Two historic Harding letters from the Wall of Early Morning Light

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1006396&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
May 24, 2015 - 10:46pm PT
Here's a couple of good threads on Steve Wunsch for the individuals section

Steve Wunsch appreciation thread

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=948899&tn=0&mr=0

Steve Wunsch: noble partner

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1041277&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
May 25, 2015 - 05:14pm PT
Areas and routes:

A classic account of the first and probably only ascent of a desert mesa with input from all members of the climbing team.

Tse-n-t'ytl

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=835308&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
May 25, 2015 - 05:33pm PT
The Ladies:

Molly Higgins

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1037030&tn=0&mr=0


More from Tarbuster's excellent Women Rock! series

Women Totally Rock!: (pix of chix round 2)

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=234994&tn=0&mr=0

Women Rock On!: Viva grrrl power... (round 3)

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=236344&tn=0&mr=0

Women Rock!: Keep That Majik Alive... (round 4)

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=237388&tn=0&mr=0

Women Rock! Dance On... (round 5)

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=238490&tn=0&mr=0

Women Rock!: Steppin up with style... (round 6)

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=239289&tn=0&mr=0

Women Rock!: Finesse = Fantastique... (magical round 7)

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=240940&tn=0&mr=0

Women Rock!: 2,4,6,8 Who do we Appreciate... (round 8)

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=243320&tn=0&mr=0

Women Rock!: You Know it's thah truth... (round 9)

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=245670&tn=0&mr=0

Women Rock!: She's the Boss... (round 10)

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=722121&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
May 25, 2015 - 07:43pm PT
Here's a couple of threads devoted to some guys who left us way too early.

Billy Westbay appreciation thread

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2283608&tn=0&mr=0


The death of Jim Madsen

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1032275&tn=0&mr=0

Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
May 26, 2015 - 10:10am PT
A couple of threads for the gear and techniques section:

Climbing 1957 style

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=291953&tn=0&mr=0


Crackjacks from 1964

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=199325&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
May 27, 2015 - 08:54am PT
A good thread for the areas and routes section:

Astroman's pre-history

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=520019&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

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Llatikcuf WA
May 27, 2015 - 09:29am PT
One for the Climbers & Climbers photos section:

Probably one of the all time best Yosemite-centric photo threads.

Yosemite Wall Climbing Photos

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=269206&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

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Llatikcuf WA
May 28, 2015 - 08:11am PT
Here's some threads to file under stories:

Obscure history

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=389779&tn=0&mr=0


Calling all old school JT craggers

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=81626&tn=0&mr=0

And while we are on the subject of joshua tree stories might as well throw this into the mix...

Golden Josh Years Stories and Slander

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=178068&tn=0&mr=0


Some classic Jello stuff that could go under stories as well:

Zion 1971

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=268972&tn=0&mr=0
Hardly Visible

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Llatikcuf WA
May 29, 2015 - 08:53am PT
Top ten towers to climb

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=550107&tn=0&mr=0
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
May 29, 2015 - 11:43am PT

1. THREADS [by subject]

A. INDIVIDUALS:

Hill, Lynn. Lynn Hill Appreciation. http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/878033/Lynn-Hill-Appreciation (Anastasia, Jun 10, 2009)

Destivelle, Catherine. Catherine Destivelle- Profile by Beth Wald Climbing 1988. http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1276278/Catherine-Destivelle-Profile-by-Beth-Wald-Climbing-1988 (Steve Grossman, Sep 26, 2010)

Findlay, Hazel. Hazel Findlay again. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1964835&tn=20#msg2633948 (Denni, Oct 25, 2012)

Kaltenbrunner, Gerlinde. K2 Impressive feat by the lady. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1590637&tn=0 (Silver, Aug 25, 2011)

Edlinger, Patrick. Patrick Edlinger. http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1986888/Patrick-Edlinger (Ionlyski, Nov 15, 2012)

Terray, Lionel. A Short Walk with Terray. http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2111916/A-Short-Walk-with-Terray. (Oldguy, Apr 10, 2013)

Rebuffat, Gaston. Tribute to Gaston Rebuffat. http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/483295/Tribute-to-Gaston-Rebuffat (Erik, Nov 14, 2007)

Allain, Pierre. PIERRE ALLAIN MTN 62. http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1957536/PIERRE-ALLAIN-MTN-62 (Blakey, Oct 18, 2012)

Brown, Joe. Joe Brown honored. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1386809&msg=1386966#msg1386966 (Ydpl8s, Jan 20, 2011)

Buhl, Hermann. Hermann Buhl. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=528390&msg=528613#msg528613 (Morphus, Feb 2, 2008)

Scott, Doug. Mountain 57: A Crawl Down the Ogre. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1955387&msg=2416229#msg2416229 (Blakey, Oct 16, 2012)

Ondra, Adam. Adam Ondra, world class trad climber. http://www.supertopo.com/inc/editforum.php?did=MjQ1OjknIyAjLQ,,&dtid=Mjs5PTYnJCsmJA,, (GDavis, May 14, 2014)

Donini, Jim. Jim Donini Appreciation thread. http://www.supertopo.com/inc/editforum.php?did=MjQ1OjknIyAjLQ,,&dtid=Mjs5PTYnJCsmJA,, (Big Mike, Jan 30, 2013)

Cassin, Riccardo. Riccardo Cassin - 100 years old. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=754517&tn=0 (Mighty Hiker, Jan 1, 2009)

Caprez, Nina and Lachat, Cedric. Nina and Cedric. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2290294&tn=0#msg2633952 (Dingus Milktoast, Dec 10, 2013)

Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 31, 2015 - 02:51pm PT
1. Threads [organized by subject]
….. A. Individuals:

Walter Rosenthal
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/355665/In-Memoriam


Much thanks for your efforts here nah000!
Cheers,
Roy
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 31, 2015 - 03:22pm PT
G. CLIMBERS + CLIMBER'S PHOTOS:

Name ten climbers who influenced your climbing the most
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/508291/Name-ten-climbers-who-influenced-your-climbing-the-most
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Llatikcuf WA
May 31, 2015 - 04:10pm PT
A fun oldie to go under the stories heading:

Leaning Tower Swill Story

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/9229/Leaning-Tower-Swill-Story
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Llatikcuf WA
Jun 1, 2015 - 09:47am PT
No collection of classic climbing chit chat would be complete without some sort of discussion of climbs at Idyllwild. Here are some for the areas and routes section:

Idyllwild appreciation thread

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/796009/Idyllwild-Appreciation-thread


Seldom climbed Idyllwild classics

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/169800/Seldom-Climbed-Idyllwild-Classics


Stories, fables and photos from Tahquitz Rock

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2458705/Stories-fables-and-photos-from-Tahquitz-Rock


Suicide photos

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2457228/Suicide-Photos


Top 20 Tahquitz/ Suicide climbs on Mtn. Project

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1796703/Top-20-Tahquitz-Suicide-Climbs-on-Mtn-Project
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Llatikcuf WA
Jun 11, 2015 - 11:34am PT
Another great piece of history from the history makers themselves, which I guess would go in the Squamish section:

University Wall, second free ascent

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1159510&tn=0&mr=0
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jun 15, 2015 - 03:42pm PT
1. THREADS [by subject]
A. INDIVIDUALS:

Mike Waugh
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/902572/Mike-Waugh-Appreciation-List

Greg Epperson
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=486331&msg=486665#msg486665

Jeff Lowe
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/265342/Welcome-to-Jeff-Lowe

John Bachar
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/124358/Bachar-welcome-to-the-forum
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jun 15, 2015 - 08:37pm PT
1. THREADS [by subject]
B. AREAS + ROUTES:

Yosemite Routes [Tuolumne]:

Chartres, Medlicott
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/394515/Anybody-done-Chartres-Medlicott-5-9

Body and Soul, South Whizz Dome
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2194994/A-Bolt-Body-and-Soul-and-Commitment


Yosemite Routes [El Cap]:

West Face, El Cap
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/264029/Fourth-Ascent-West-Face-of-El-Cap-1971


Yosemite Routes [Misc]:

Slab Happy Pinnacle TR
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=984389&msg=984389#msg984389

Slab Happy Pinnacle. Left Side TR
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1188773&msg=1188773#msg1188773
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 16, 2015 - 08:11pm PT
the miners have been B.U.S.Y... i'm going to break this update into at least a couple...

here are the contributions from the last page...


HV continues to find the motherlodes... thanks dude.

to individuals:
Burton, Hugh: Hugh Burton? [Senor Pinche Wey: Mar. 16, 2005]
Gingery, Mari: Mike and Mari [Leroy: Mar. 22, 2006]
Harding, Warren: WARREN HARDING'S LETTER QUITTING THE AMERICAN ALPINE CLUB [Peter Haan: Nov. 9, 2009]
..... TWO HISTORIC HARDING LETTERS FROM WALL EARLY MORNING LIGHT [Peter Haan: Nov. 9, 2009]
Higgins, Molly: MOLLY HIGGINS [Peter Haan: DEC. 16, 2009]
Kauk, Ron: Ron Kauk Appreciation thread [Karl Baba: Aug. 14, 2009]
Lechlinski, Mike: Mike and Mari [Leroy: Mar. 22, 2006]
Madsen, Jim: The death of Jim Madsen [Dick Erb: Dec. 9, 2009]
Westbay, Billy: Billy Westbay Appreciation Thread. [Salamanizer: Dec. 3, 2013]
Wunsch, Steve: Steve Wunsch Appreciation Thread [Pate: Sep. 3, 2009]
..... STEVE WUNSCH: NOBLE PARTNER [Peter Haan: Dec. 21, 2009]

to areas + routes [not yosemite]:
USA: AZ: Canyon de Chelly: Tse-n-t'ytl [survival: Apr. 14, 2009]

to areas + routes [yosemite]:
General: Yosemite Wall Climbing Photos [Minerals: Oct. 20, 2006]
Routes: Washington Column: Astroman's Pre-History [Mark Hudon: Jan. 21, 2008]

to gear and techniques:
Gear: Crackjacks from 1964 [Peter Haan: May 25, 2006]

to climbers and climbers photos:
..... Where are They Now? Old Leavenworth (Wa.) Climbers [Lionheart: Feb. 25, 2010]
..... Yosemite Wall Climbing Photos [Minerals: Oct. 20, 2006]

i'm going to post Tarbuster's Women Rock! series to the the serial thread category with a link back from the threads section...

and already had the climbing 1957 style thread posted under the parental lowe's...

also had the yos wall climbing photos under area and routes, but added it to the photo section as well...

nice work.



housekeeping: broke up the areas and routes section into two sections... one for yosemite and one for everything else... also started organizing things better by breaking down what state, continent, etc. they are from...
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 1, 2015 - 08:54pm PT
alright time to catch up:

from HV... some of these wouldn't just fit into one category so i multiposted a couple of them:

to stories: obscure history [Oli: May 31, 2007]
Calling all old skool JT craggers! [Watusi: Jul. 8, 2005]
Golden Josh Years Stories and Slander [?: Apr. 10, 2006]

to Individuals: Ament, Pat:
obscure history [Oli: May 31, 2007]

to Yosemite, History: obscure history [Oli: May 31, 2007]

to typologies: Top Ten Towers to climb [Rich Sims: Mar. 4, 2008]

to USA: California: Joshua Tree: Calling all old skool JT craggers! [Watusi: Jul. 8, 2005]
Golden Josh Years Stories and Slander [?: Apr. 10, 2006]

to USA: California: Idyllwild/Tahquitz/Suicide:
Idyllwild Appreciation thread [Gobi: Feb. 27, 2009]
Seldom Climbed Idyllwild Classics [Largo: Mar. 21, 2006]
Stories, fables, and photos from Tahquitz Rock [EdBannister: Jul. 20, 2014]
Suicide Photos [EdBannsiter: Jul. 27, 2014]
Top 20 Tahquitz/Suicide Climbs on Mtn. Project [Todd Gordon: Apr. 11, 2012]

and over to the Serial Threads: Squamish:
University Wall, second free ascent [Chief: May 3, 2010]

already had Karl Baba's leaning swill story over in the single post category...



from Marlow... as always thanks for the formatting, it speeds things up a lot... also nice work on your comprehensive european climbers index... i added a link to that at the bottom of the individuals section:

Allain, Pierre: PIERRE ALLAIN MTN 62 [Blakey: Oct. 18, 2012]
Brown, Joe: Joe Brown honored [Ydpl8s: Jan. 20, 2011]
Buhl, Hermann; Hermann Buhl [Morphus: Feb. 2, 2008]
Caprez, Nina: Nina and Cedric [Dingus Milktoast: Dec. 10, 2013]
Cassin, Riccardo: Riccardo Cassin - 100 years old [Mighty Hiker: Jan. 1, 2009]
Destivelle, Catherine: Catherine Destivelle- Profile by Beth Wald Climbing 1988 [Steve Grossman: Sep. 26, 2010]
Donini, Jim: Jim Donini Appreciation thread [Big Mike: Jan. 30, 2013]
Edlinger, Patrick: Patrick Edlinger [Ionlyski: Nov. 15, 2012]
Findlay, Hazel: Hazel Findlay again [Denni: Oct. 25, 2012]
Hill, Lynn: Lynn Hill Appreciation [Anastasia: Jun. 10, 2009]
Kaltenbrunner, Gerlinde: K2 Impressive feat by the lady [Silver: Aug. 25, 2011]
Lachat, Cedric: Nina and Cedric [Dingus Milktoast: Dec. 10, 2013]
Ondra, Adam: Adam Ondra, world class trad climber [GDavis: May 14, 2014]
Rebuffat, Gaston: Tribute to Gaston Rebuffat [Erik: Nov. 14, 2007]
Scott, Doug: Mountain 57: A Crawl Down the Ogre [Blakey: Oct. 16, 2012]
Terray, Lionel: A Short Walk with Terray [Oldguy: Apr. 10, 2013]
more links: The European Climbing Index [Marlow: Jun. 9, 2015]



and Tarbuster joins the ranks of the most productive miners... thanks man:

to individuals:
Bachar, John: welcome to the forum [Tradboy: Nov. 29, 2005]
Epperson, Greg: Here's to Greg Epperson [Prod: Nov. 20, 2007]
Lowe, Jeff: Welcome to Jeff Lowe [10b4me: Oct. 11, 2006]
Rosenthal, Walter: In Memoriam [Blinny: Apr. 6, 2007]
Waugh, Mike: Mike Waugh Appreciation List [Ed Bannister: Jul. 14, 2009]

to Yosemite Routes [Tuolumne]:
Anybody done Chartres- Medlicott 5.9? [Jay Wood: Jun. 7, 2007]
Slab Happy Pinnacle T.R. [Levy: Oct. 14, 2009]
Slab Happy Pinnacle. Left Side. TR [Alexey: Jun. 7 , 2010]

to Yosemite Routes [El Cap]:
Fourth Ascent West Face of El Cap 1971 [Peter Haan: Oct. 8, 2006]

to climbers and climber's photos:
Name ten climbers who influenced your climbing the most [Ricardo Carlos: Dec. 30, 2007]

had the body and soul thread already...



thanks for the serious productivity gents... my apologies for the slow turn around...
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Llatikcuf WA
Jul 1, 2015 - 10:29pm PT
Thanks for the great work Ryan, now if we could just put it somewhere that it was easy to find.
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2015 - 11:21am PT
added the rest of Avery's big mountain route threads that were already added to the Serial Threads section:

to Canada: Rockies:
Mt Chephren, "The Wild Thing": All Known Ascents [Avery: Dec. 27, 2014]

to USA: Alaska:
Kichatna Spire!! [Avery: Jan. 31, 2015]
Mt Forakers Infinite Spur: All Comers Welcome [Avery: Apr. 9, 2015]
Denali Diamond: All Known Ascents [Avery: Jun. 24, 2015]
Denali: Slovak Direct [Avery: Jun. 25, 2015]
Mt Huntington: A Selective History [Avery: Jul. 1, 2015]
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jul 2, 2015 - 12:21pm PT

nah000

Thanks for the update.
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Llatikcuf WA
Aug 30, 2015 - 08:29am PT
An interesting thread on ethics and style

Side by Side Ethics, Practicality or the Road to Hell

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/588524/Side-by-Side-Ethics-Practicality-or-the-Road-to-Hell
Hardly Visible

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Llatikcuf WA
Sep 16, 2015 - 09:17am PT
Individuals:

The Thimble John Gill

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1336236/The-Thimble-John-Gill

Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
May 2, 2016 - 10:34pm PT
An ongoing classic in the making, The Sheep Buggers of JT...BITD.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2793384/The-Sheep-Buggerers-of-JT-BITD
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2016 - 06:24pm PT
very nice HV:

to ethics + style: Side by Side Ethics, Practicality or the Road to Hell? [Toker Villain: May 4, 2008]
to individuals: Gill, John: The Thimble - John Gill [Alex Baker: Dec. 5, 2010]
to USA: California: So Cal Climbing Culture: The Sheep Buggerers of JT...BITD [Bushman: Apr. 6, 2016]



thanks to T. Hocking over on the old ST Climbing Hall of Fame thread for nominating the "Obscure Rock from Nevada and Elsewhere" thread... it's already included under Typologies: Unclimbed...



and here are a bunch that i've compiled over the last while, but hadn't got around to including until now...

to Europe: Switzerland: Second ascent of the N face of the Grosshorn (Swiss Alps) [Guck: May 12, 2011]
to USA: Alaska: Mount Johnson [Gregory Couch: Feb. 22, 2016]
to Gear + Techniques: Gear: Got Klettershoe? [Tarbuster: Mar. 9, 2008]
..... Historical and Outstanding Mountaineering Rucksacks [nutstory: Nov. 19, 2015]
to Individuals: Bindner, Bruce "Brutus of Wyde": Too Soon Brutus! [DMT: Jun. 15, 2009]
Bossier, Tex: Tex Bossier [Ojai Alex: Feb. 21, 2015]
Cosgrove, Scott: Scott Cosgrove RIP [Chief: Feb. 24, 2016]
to Typologies: Mantles: Hardest mantle in the USA? [bachar: Feb. 22, 2007]
Hardly Visible

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Llatikcuf WA
May 28, 2017 - 09:28am PT
File under stories,

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1107525/EDZILLA-Queen-of-the-High-Desert-OW-OW-not-OT
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Aug 10, 2017 - 01:33pm PT
1. THREADS

A. INDIVIDUALS:

Don Jensen
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/818390/Don-Jensen

The European Climbing [climbers] Index
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2639142/The-European-Climbing-Index
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 10, 2017 - 08:57am PT
1. THREADS

A. INDIVIDUALS:

Barry Bates:
(An independent thread on Barry Bates, as distinct from the Bates/Klemens thread)
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/376225/Barry-Bates

James Wilson:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2656233/RIP-James-Wilson-Wilsons-Eastside-Sports-Bishop

...............................................

1. THREADS

G. STORIES:

Top-shelf short story by Dingus the Milkman, bringing 'em bottle fresh to your door!
http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Climb-Like-a-Mexican/t13207n.html
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 12, 2017 - 08:42pm PT
THE INDEX: 4. Single Posts

Ed Hartouni's first post in this thread:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3019660/Being-published-how-climbers-learned-about-climbing-BITD

Contains an interview with Tami Knight by David Harris a.k.a. Ghost, from Climbing August 1-September 15, 1995

..........................................

Will have to keep an eye on the thread in total.
The whole enchilada may warrant positioning somewhere in the index.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 13, 2017 - 07:57pm PT
1. THREADS [by subject]


A. INDIVIDUALS:

Steve McKinney. Fer Fukksakes. A must have in any collection of wild and woolly mountain people!
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/481027/In-memory-of-Steve-McKinney

And in addition to the BVB appreciation thread:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2992526/BVB-the-passing-of-an-American-Legend

....................................


C. AREAS + ROUTES: THE WORLD [ - YOSEMITE]:

USA: California: Mt. Woodson

Premium Miniatures-Bob Van Belle & Mt. Woodson Climbing 89
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1265787/Premium-Miniatures-Bob-Van-Belle-Mt-Woodson-Climbing-89

^^^
Maybe this article already be here, in the field below?
(So huge, and not alphabetized, didn't see it in a cursory inspection)

D. STEVE GROSSMAN'S CLIMBING HISTORY THREADS
nah000

climber
now/here
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2017 - 08:40pm PT
mister buster [and HV as well]: you're killing it... i'll add 'em... as they say in the biz... soon!

and yeah, going through and organizing all of grossman's links is on the never ending tudu list. i didn't look, but i'm pretty sure it's on there. but i'll add it in a more organized fashion when i get a roundtoit...

thanks as always to those who take the time to contribute the gud shIt to these lists...

like smokey the bear says:

Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 13, 2017 - 09:15pm PT
LOVE what you are doing here with this index!

Certainly not complaining about the lack of organization in the Grossman section.
Just saying I was kind of lazy in my search of it.

Maybe the BVB article should be in both places?

.....................................................


C. AREAS + ROUTES: THE WORLD [ - YOSEMITE]:

USA: California: Mt. Woodson

The 1st SuperTaco based Mt. Woodson Shindig, 2007:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/354278/woodson-shindig-april-28th
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Oct 17, 2017 - 12:04pm PT
A couple of classics fer sure,

Second Ascent of the North American Wall
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=3012476&tn=0&mr=0

Climber Photos Prior to 1976
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=3012014&tn=0&mr=0
nah000

climber
now/here
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2017 - 10:32pm PT
Tami! 'ya smart ass... :)

did you forget about the first post [which consolidates everything but what's on this page] or are ya jes bustin chops over the last half a dozen posts or so?

'cause if you think this is bad, i'm def not lettin' you see my desk!

hahaha... [and don't worry, the toque will get too tight and organization will happen... eventually!]
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 18, 2017 - 10:10am PT
Prap's you forget, Tami ...

... that we are MEN, and that with few exceptions, (and w/mondo confidence) we know just what we're doing (I think), exactly where we are going (sorta), also how (gotta Hammer right here, and all of life is a bright shiny nail), and sometimes even ... WHY! (Okay, maybe fudging a bit on that last one).
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 25, 2017 - 02:09pm PT
One of the best single posts, EVER,
From Pewf:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=408821&msg=3023530#msg3023530

An explication on prancercising.
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