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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 6, 2013 - 04:09pm PT
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After five years of negotiations I have finally come to terms with the NPS on a concession for the spring at the base of Half Dome.
In return for improvements designed to protect the Red Spotted Toad and for developing a website with up to date flow information I will be permitted to charge a user fee- amount of which is still under negotiation.
Improvements, website and fee structure should all be in place for the 2014 climbing season.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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$97.52 per liter sounds about right.
Do you get to build some tent cabins on the HD shoulder for your concession employees? 'Cause I might be lookin for a job soon.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Will the water now have healing properties? Can I bathe in it?
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Yay!
I look forward to meeting you....
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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The next things to line up are putting in a convenience store and a pizza place.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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will you provide rock-fall protection too?
I hear the red spots clear up after a while...
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orle
climber
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Hell, add in any kind of pipe at all
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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so can we have a sushifest up there now?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Yous guys are totally missing where Jim is really going with this.
The real money will come when he gets ordained and can start doing baptisms.
Reverend James' Tis-Sa-ack Temple of the True Spirit (that's a hint for Cosmic or Peter Hahn)
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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Uncle:
Is it true that water from the spring is free, but there is a permitting fee to consider?
N' the use permit, is there a fee schedule depending on how much of the muck your willing to sustain in your water bottle ?
I heard those with MSR or some such, water filters pay a premium fee for the free water ?
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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Reverend James' Tis-Sa-ack Temple of the True Spirit (that's a hint for Cosmic or Peter Hahn)
Phone call was just made !
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Barbarian
climber
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I don't want to be baptized....I just want to be healed. I have climbing fever!
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steveA
Trad climber
bedford,massachusetts
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Jim,
I wonder what gave you the idea for this thread? Ha, Ha
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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James, I'll send you some money so I can
be apart of this!
wink wink. . .
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rurprider
Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
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Damn....and I thought Ron Kauk had the sole concessionaire ship on all those springs.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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You can offer two kinds of water:
1. With mud $1.00 a bottle
2. No MUD $5.00 a bottle
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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you suck
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Blakey
Trad climber
Sierra Vista
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When I did the RNWF in 96 with three mates, we were told, prior to the hike that the stream was 'flowing'. Accordingly we hiked up with pretty much empty bottles, planning to fill at the base.
We arrived in the dark and found the 'spring' which was a small muddy pool.
With no option we rigged an ad hoc filter using two pairs of our (used) socks. It took a couple of hours but we eventually managed to fill our bottles with a grey murky and slightly greasy liquid that passed for H20. It had an unusual salty edge to it.
The socks, one thick, one thin (see we had thought it through) worked quite well - only one of us was sick, and heck - he might have been sick anyway.......
When dawn broke, we of course found the correct spring, up and left of where we bivi'd, but by then we couldn't face unpacking and dicarding our laboriously won gloop.
Such fun!
Steve
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Cosmic hits it out of the park again!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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HaHaHaHaHa!!!!!! An all-time classic!
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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I hope you are going to donate at least 1% of you profits to help the starving in third world counties like Texas.
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JerryA
Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
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Why not rebuild La Casa Nevada ,Albert & Emily Snow's 10 bedroom chalet that stood at the base of Nevada Falls from 1870 to 1900 ? Trads would not have to stay near the riff raff in the Valley.
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Barbarian
climber
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I hope you are going to donate at least 1% of you profits to help the starving in third world counties like Texas.
Naw...just give 'em some of that mud to wallow in...
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franky
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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I demand full NEPA compliance for this project. I will have a lot to say during public scoping. don't expect that water booth to be open anytime soon. I also expect a minimum tool analysis given that it will be in wildernes, this seems like a pretty significant trammel. i would expect a liter of water to be more like $150 after the legal fees.
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steveA
Trad climber
bedford,massachusetts
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Cosmic,
Your VERY creative. Another Sheridan Anderson!
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Paul B
Big Wall climber
Sheffield, UK
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Jun 17, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
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Will the 'stall' still be open this week?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 17, 2013 - 07:26pm PT
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I'm with you, Franky.
Cheap dudes like me aren't paying a nickel for WATER THAT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE; and isn't it still illegal to remove, collect, or offer for sale any rocks, plants, animals, OR WATER in National Parks, BTW? Why would they sanction a rootless wandervogel like you to run something so lucrative?
And you can't prevent parties hauling up their own water, either, Jim, unless you hire a gang.
In fact, if you get this concession, which will require God-knows-what paperwork and baksheesh, I'm still willing to do all that paperwork and to spend big bucks to initiate a concession to sell Fern Spring Water in those teeny little green bottles!! And NO FIZZ!!
5-cent CRV in Yosemite, too.
You'll need a more appealing ruse than healing, too. Baptism's great and all, but you need special tools for the healing. Good thing butt plugs are cheaper by the dozen...
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