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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 3, 2013 - 02:43pm PT
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How in the hell did a hat that was the traditional working uniform of the West Coast longshoremen and sailors end up as a favorite of climbers?
Also traditionally known as the “West Coast Stetson” or among sailors and union members as the “Lundberg Stetson,” it was named for Harry Lundeberg, former president of the sailors group.
Lundeberg rose to prominence in the infamous 1934 West Coast Longshormen Strike. Leave it to a Norwegien to organize such an independent, rebellious and recalcitrant group of men. Not that dissimilar from a group of Camp 4 climbers in the early days.
The white cap was part of the universal uniform for dock workers, the “Stetson,” a blue and white striped work shirt called a “hickory” and black denim pants, or what was called “Frisco jeans” back then. Virtually everybody has this costume and it was called “dressing union.”
My stepfather was a chief engineer in the merchant marines and counted many longshoremen as his mates. Growing up in Berkeley in the 50s there were a number of bars where they congregated. A regular watering hole for the longshoremen and an oasis for the seaman before shipping out was the Solano Club across from the old Mountain Travel office in Albany. This was probably my first exposure to the hat. Later the named evolved into Halibut Hat and most likely this originated in the Pacific North West and Alaska?
The Halibut Hat was Royal Robbins favorite hat du jour in the early 60s and that is most likely where I picked up the nasty habit. But then again I was not alone in this mad and expensive habit of maintaining a regular supply of hats for the years to come. Always good to know you are not running solo in your endeavor. Enjoy.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Great photos Guido!
I think what Mr. E wears is more of a Paperboy but stylish nonetheless.
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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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I had no idea that those hats were worn by so many illuminaries! Leave it to Guido to have collected so many pics of climbers wearing his favorite head gear! Great photos!
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
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Ah, but they both have the same derivation from what is known as the Flat Cap Era-I sh#t you not!
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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had a three or four year run with them in the early seventies, working on the beach in southern humboldt ... launching boats, tossing fish, ripping between anchored trawlers on one hull, and returning drunken fisherman to their boats by the dory load after closing time at the bar.
there's some shelter to be found under those things for the top edge of the ear.
a little scaly spot up there says i should never have gone back to caps.
not much of a burden accordianed onto the bill
and slipped into the back pocket, as i recall
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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My step dad was in the Operating Engineers Union so maybe that's why he wore them - that was the source of my supply, and then of course, Royal gave license to wear them - The Union of Royal Robbins Society.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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I started wearing one in the late 1950s.
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thekidcormier
Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
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I started wearing one with out knowing how deeply routed they are in climbing history.
Great thread.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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My question, Guido, is are they made from halibut skin?
hee hee hee. . .
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Great thread Guido!
What is not to like about an all-cotton, cheap and stylish addition to an otherwise cool head?!?
Heading up La Escuela, BITD. Rich Thompson photo.
Once the tidy whities became the style du jour then it was one stop shop at the paint shop to cover your ass and top.
The shot in your OP is me on the east Buttress of MCR. Rich Thompson photo.
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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North Pal, mid 80's. I just thought it was a rakishly cool hat to wear when climbing. (And yes, it's a Stetson.)
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
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Routine quiver for almost all occasions:
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Well, that was the exhaustive and definitive work, for sure!
But I think we are owed at least a partial explanation of the aptly named
Isla Socorro shot!
A wannabe and his hat posing for easily impressed Swedes...
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Traitor Horn, Tahquitz 1968, Larry Reynolds photo
On first ascent of Looking Glass, Whitney Portal Buttress 1970, Keith Schwartz photo.
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MisterE
Social climber
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Edit: Just saw Jefe's post - thanks for the shot!
I was actually a halibut-fishing deck-hand (as well as black cod) in Alaska in the 80's. True story. This was when there was the 48-hour "derby" fishing opening, where you long-lined for halibut for the whole 48 hours - no rest. The black cod was not so controlled.
Trying to stay away from the winter madness, but the call is too strong.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Best thread in a while!
It's weird when connections come together... I have known Dan McHale since about '74 and I climbed with Guido a couple of summers ago at Facelift. Never knew they knew each other!
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Awesome thread and photos!
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Royal started doing it so that people in his slide show audiences could quickly spot him in each picture.
I was rarely photographed, so didn't pick up the fashion.
Plus hats distort sound...a major survival factor on big mountain walls is hearing exactly where the high flyer rocks are going...
People wearing helmets often show off the dents where the rocks hit...
(I have no dents in the top of my head...)
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Dirka
Trad climber
Hustle City
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Bump for history
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Lost mine years ago (no not virginity, that's still intact, ha ha).
The few times I climbed with Charlie Porter, he always wore his.
MisterE, I long-lined for halibut summer of 1977 out of Petersburg, Alaska, still had my hat then.
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
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Yup, learned something once again.
"Halibut Hat"; who knew?
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Fun read and great info--I always thought that it was called a "Stroker" hat and originated from the golf circuit of the late 1800's...
Who knew?
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MisterE
Social climber
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MisterE, I long-lined for halibut summer of 1977 out of Petersburg, Alaska, still had my hat then.
Cool! I was on the "Sylvia" out of Port Alexander, just south of Sitka. Beautiful boat - I fell in love with her at the dry-dock in Port Townsend, Washington and had be with her...
Back on topic:
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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remembering extreme dave
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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And let's not forget Henry:
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MH2
climber
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A whole new wing in the Museum of Climbing. Good work, Guido.
edit:
Guido included a pic of Henry.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
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Because paisley bandanas worn pirate style is kinda goofy.
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Cool, grew up wearing "hickory shirts" My Dad told me they were called that becasue they were "as tough as hickory".
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Dick Erb
climber
June Lake, CA
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Good hats. The white color reflects the heat of the sun, and the bill is just long enough to shade your eyes, but short enough to not get in the way while pulling shoulder carried runners off over your head, and doesn't poke the rock in front of your face.
One spring day while ski patrolling at Alpine Meadows I arrived at work realizing that I had forgot my sunglasses and had no brimmed hat. Dreading the intense sun I took my first run off the top. Half way down I found one of those white hats lying on the snow. It shaded my eyes just enough to save the day.
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Gilroy
Social climber
Bolderado
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Agree w/what Dick E. said about the white cotton version of the paperboy/halibut hat. Wore one of those down in the TX heat for years. More recently, living in NY and CO I have favored one with a bit of wool from Scala.
reposted from another thread
PS - maldaLy, nobody's going to be forgetting Henry, once they've met him. ;-)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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It was Henry Barber who started wearing one in imitation of Royal, IMO, which pretty much let the hat out of the bag.
And the cute Sheridan cartoons, too numerous to mention.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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MisterE, my high school climbing buddy Steve (a year ahead of me in school) did a year at Humboldt State and then went north.
He had a 36' long-liner, Eirendale (he has since over the years have had several boats, out of P'burg and Sitka). and I worked on it for the first 'slot', but then his partner (studying fisheries at U of Wash) came up so I spent the rest of the summer on a tender (what a pain, I've got one or two stories to tell), the Lillian S (93' contracted not owned by the cannery but by an old sea salt, Ray Bell - he lost his finger laying telephone wire in Alaska while in the Army during WW2. I wonder if he got a Purple Heart for that.)
On my 21st, Ray and his wife (we were based out of Kake, Kupreanof Island, where they lived - tallest totem pole in the world, at least at the time) surprised me with a cake, Steve must have told them.
My first and only encounter with a grizzly was on Kuiu Island, after towing a summer tender barge. Scary.
Anyway, as for the hat, that is the last I remember of it. But it was skanky at that point, - - halibut slime can be like super glue and coupled with salmon scales...
Hey Guido/Joe, great thread.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Guido & all! Thanks for the history of "Halibut Hats" and all the fun photos you folks have posted.
I looked through my considerable inventory of 70's Idaho climbing photos and nary a Halibut Hat surfaced.
Looks like we pale and fashion-challenged northerners were mostly bareheaded. Only in our 1971 photos of climbing in the Sawtooths, do hats show up.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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A young Joe Brown
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Never wore one myself, but I always thought it was Robbins who popularized it.
McCarthy in the Winds sportin' the look:
The Vulgarians and their predecessors had their own take on headgear:
Hans Kraus:
Art Gran and Claude Suhl (compare Art's headgear to Hans'):
Al DeMaria:
Helmets have pretty much killed headgear fashion for climbers.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2013 - 09:29pm PT
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So we're standing around Camp 4, probably circa 1960 plus one? and Art "dah"move" Gran is here for the first time and he is wearing this thing he called a Skull Cap (like the previous photo?) and he says, " In dah Gunks, we judge are climbers by dah Skull Cap they wear." To which Bitchin Bill Amborn, better known as BBA says: "We judge our climbers here by the climbs they do." It was hilarious!
I got to climb with Gran but on one venture, he knocked a large block off on the approach to Arrow Head Arete and I ended up in dah hospital.
Friggin Vulgarians were fun, if not a wee bit crazy.
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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That "scull cap" was called a Turswiry hat. It is indeed the one on Kraus and Gran in the pictures. I believe that Kraus brought it over from Austria, and it became all the rage among the Gunks locals.
The nomenclature is not Austrian however, but strictly home-brewed, and in the extended tradition of Vulgarian word play. An account of an expedition to Schoolhouse Cave had described the leader as "terse and wiry." The Vulgarians decided that climbing leaders might strive for analogous endowments by the ritual donning of the Turswiry cap. Although wiry-ness might have been (ever so briefly) achieved, the cap utterly failed to convey anything like the verbal reticence required for terseness, as Art Gran---a wearer of the Turswiry cap as the photos show---proved beyond a shadow of a doubt.
The story of the Camp 4 Turswiry interchange has been told and retold, with different characters (I've heard it was Robbins, for example) identified as the responder to Gran's declaration. We Easterners were always amazed that anyone took Art's satiric remarks seriously and felt the need for an earnest retort.
After the the scorn heaped upon it by the Gang of Camp Four, the Turswiry went into witness protection and now lives a life of obscurity as a helmet liner.
As for the Halibut Hat, its official name is the flat cap, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_cap for full description and history.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Fantastic Thread Guido! You always look so rakish in your hat. Now I know the history behind it.
I agree, think this is one of the best threads in a while. Wonderful pictures of climbing history.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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A couple of distinguished gentlemen--one with the required cappage--, one gentleman who is decidedly less distingued and a couple of young 'uns waiting to have some fun on the Apron a few summers ago.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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This thread makes my knee jerk when i see the famous Robbins hat...There was this local grumpy, neurotic , contractor who always wore one of the halibut hats on the job sights...He had done some climbing but wasn't really like a die-hard , dirtbag , climber...His employees , who were usually climbers , made fun of his Robbins hat behind his back , knowing that doing so to his face would incur the wrath of a short , insecure man...One day , a fellow Supertopian and i got the nerve to walk into this guys custom home...The first thing we saw in the mudroom was a coat rack with 3 spotless Robbins hats in tight formation , waiting to be worn..When we exited the house , my friend looked at me and without saying a word , started laughing...Guido...You look good in that hat...RJ
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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American teenage fashion circa 1900:
What goes around comes around.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Being used for its intended purpose and, most assuredly, there were halibut
beneath the keel as this was the Seward Fjords.
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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I posted a reply and deleted it cause I didn't want to muddy the water with an off topic comment. Now that someone posted several other modes of head dress I will make my preference known.
Not that it is really a secret as it is difficult to pry the damn thing off my head. A Tam o' Shanter is the only way to go.
Once you go that way you will never go back.
photo by Ed Hartouni.
Thanks Ed. I think you captured the look.
Plaid
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Some old climber hack with a flat hat.
Some other old climber hack. Joe Brown again.
Hamish McInnes.
Apparently Rebuffat's hair was too bitchin' to consider it.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Would you not know it?
I went to the photo search looking for Mike Farrell, who never failed to appear in his white flattie.
And Guido magically appears as well. Boom!
If I didn't know better, I'd say I been hat.
edit: I didn't see this pic on the first page, so I definitely feel I've been hat. Got it covered now.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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they're "caps,"or "bonnets," not "hats," and it matters.
caps had a short front brim. hats had a real brim of whatever length. in the 19th century, flat caps of wool or cotton were worn mostly by working class and boys. or as country wear by the bourgeoisie and aristos. in town, and at work, fur felt hats with 360 brims dominated.
it wasn't until after ww2 that affecting a working class style, or going hatless, became common. it was a big deal when jfk, aka "hatless jack," went w/o a fedora in public. and it was a big deal when , in the sixties, baseball caps replaced fedoras (and even engineer's and stormy kroner caps).
when i was a kid, my uncles wore fedoras hunting. my grandpa wore an engineer's cap farming. and my youngest uncle was the rebel who wore a baseball cap and an undershirt-- no collar --under his overalls. except for haying, when everyone wore collars and longsleeves.
men's hats are actually a pretty good guide to social and political history in the last century and a half. the irony is that when royal-- and other american climbers --picked up the flat cap from the brits like whillans and brown (two very self-consciously working-class brits), and brought it back to the states to replace fedoras, tyrolians, and skullcaps, the class connotations went haywire.
for americans, that weird poofy flat-brim cap suggested continental or british flair, and that mean that the hats were snooty. today, in the states, they seem to be associated with golf and european sports cars. or in guido's case, sailing. (why would you wear a cotton hat sailing? isn't the greek fisherman's versions wool?)
i never, personally, saw a man in public wearing one of those deals until i got to the west coast many years later. i tried to wear one of those deals because i'd seen pix of whillans, robbins, and gill wearing them. didn't work for me. too much hair. and i never got comfortable in a baseball cap.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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I don't know who Hamish McInnes is but I love his hat and his smile. :D
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Lynne, he was arguably the best-loved Scottish climber ever.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Thanks Reilly, I'll try to find a book about him......
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Gilroy
Social climber
Bolderado
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Grab a copy of Patey's 'One Man's Mountains' if you're lucky enough to have access to that modern classic of English/Anguished climbing or lay yr hands on Alpinist 41, the current issue, which has a one page photo and profile on the 'Fox of Glencoe.'
A worthy subject.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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In the pub and at the crag the "flat at" was standard issue for Hamish. I really liked the stylee wool chapeau but it was instant malaria in warmer weather. All cotton much mo betta and cheaper too!
That guy again on True Grit.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dick Ellsworth, just behind Sockran at the plate. Bobby Ashworth next to himin the rag.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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A man with a hat AND a Bunker...LOL
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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That flat cap that Eric Beck is sporting is the coolest of the cool. That guy has style! Where can you get on of those?
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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these guy's liked em too.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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for me, first 'twas sammy miller as fashion mogul
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Good Times!!
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steve shea
climber
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Looks like a lot of Vuarnets also.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Vuarnets are awesome! Skilynx lenses are still the best for climbing, skiing, and whitewater rafting. Got some cateyes a couple of years back for a Grand Canyon trip and I look like I stepped out of a time machine with them on. One of my adult daughters looked at me aghast the first time she saw me with them on and said, "Did you see how far they stick out from your face?"
What could be better: they have the best lenses ever, take me back and make me smile, and drive my kids crazy!
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Feb 10, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
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Couldn't resist.....Facelift 2011. Cheers to a master, lynnie
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2013 - 11:18pm PT
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I could never decipher why the famdamily vetoed this for our annual Christmas Card? Celebrating the new scoop on the bateau 1999.
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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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Feb 11, 2013 - 02:49am PT
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Not sure that this is what Guido had in mind...
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George R
climber
The Gray Area
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Feb 11, 2013 - 04:44pm PT
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Really cool thread !
I used to wear one back-in-the-day, then I switched to cycling caps when the halibuts became harder to find. I never knew they were called "halibut hats" though; thanks for that bit of info.
G
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Feb 11, 2013 - 05:04pm PT
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The legend I heard was that Royal Robbins used to work in Modesto as a painter, possibly for Liz Robbins' dad, and he adopted his style of dress while painting when he went to Yosemite to rock climb. In other words, Robbins wore white painters' pants and a white painters' hat because that's exactly what he was doing to fund his climbing habit.
But I see that John Gill says he started wearing one of those hats in the 50s. Perhaps, so cross-pollination between Colorado and California? Dunno.
Ask Royal!
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Dick Erb
climber
June Lake, CA
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Feb 11, 2013 - 07:36pm PT
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Royal worked for a while in the paint store owned by his father in law. I don't think he ever worked as a painter, or had anything to do with painters pants becoming popular with climbers. I never saw him wear a pair of them. It was mainly shorts and knickers.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2013 - 10:32pm PT
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I have to agree with Erb on this, although in many ways RR could paint a pretty picture.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Feb 11, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
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so cross-pollination between Colorado and California? Dunno
Make that Georgia and California ;>)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Feb 11, 2013 - 10:47pm PT
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Boodawg....splendid series of pics. Much appreciated. lynnie
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Chris Jones
Social climber
Glen Ellen, CA
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Feb 12, 2013 - 12:50am PT
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While it is true that Joe Brown, Don Whillans and their group wore flat hats, other equally prominent Brits, e.g. Chris Bonington, Martin Boysen etc. did not. It would have been an affectation for Bonington to have done so - flat hats were not worn by university or professional types. The weather in the British hills is either cold, snow likely; cool, rain likely, or warm, rain possible. Many times therefore you will see pictures of Brown and others wearing a wool Balaclava hat, an itchy damn thing, but warm. For the most part in Britain during the late 50s and early 60s we did not use hats of any stripe
The issue in California was keeping the sun out of one's eyes, not staying warm. Arriving in the Valley in 1966, it was immediately apparent that my Edelrid hard hat was simply not on; too hot, and more important, wimpy looking. It seems to me that Eric Beck pointed me to a store on Berkeley's San Pablo Avenue as a source of painter's hats. I usually bought cotton pants at thrift stores; they were cheaper than actual painter's pants. Wonderful thread Guido.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Feb 12, 2013 - 12:53am PT
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Nice bit of history, Chris Jones. :D lynne
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Steve Hickman
climber
Norwood, CO
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Feb 12, 2013 - 11:17am PT
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Didn't I have one of those on when we did Snakedike back in 1901?
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2013 - 12:51pm PT
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Snake Dike circa 1965. This is "Ranger" Hickman.
Thanks to Haan for restoring these old slides!
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Feb 21, 2013 - 03:24pm PT
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^^^^^
I want that shirt! I have those knees:-)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Feb 21, 2013 - 10:30pm PT
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ydpl8s...No I want that shirt. :D Knife, paper, sissors yo for it.
Paisley, oh how I love the paisley. So hard to find. Tried many places. Mr. Graham sent me a nice paisley shirt couple years ago, but I've worn it out. It would be awesome if someone out there would manufacture a bitd paisley long sleeve out of today's awesome fabrics.
Closest I can come to the god ....wow I didn't realize good old days spelled god..... Hmmmmmm, anyway I found a great pair of tie dyed climbing pants. At Nordstroms of all fricking places. Cheers, lynnie
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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It dawned on me today that my friend here is wearing a halibut hat. It's Scott Hamel bouldering at Big Four Ice Caves in the 80s. We were comparing old tools with the newer recurved tools.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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One well-hung AND well-appointed young sportsman!
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MisterE
Social climber
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Sorry to keep interspersing this history thread with new pictures, but I love my hat...
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thekidcormier
Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
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What gives??
From what I gather climbing in a nice hat just feels right.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 23, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
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The Royal Halibut at work...
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Mar 24, 2013 - 11:29am PT
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 24, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
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Wild shot!
I don't think Royal ever got quite that burly...LOL
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Mar 24, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
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Oh what a very fun thread! I'm not sure how it escaped my notice for two months but it's great that it bubbled up to the surface again.
Funny thing is, my teenage nephew was just visiting me a couple of weeks ago and we happened to walk by a great hat store, Goorin Bros., in North Beach. He picked out a hat very much like the ones profiled here for himself.
Thanks for the history lesson, Guido!
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Needles - 1969
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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May 23, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
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A bump for Rodell!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 25, 2013 - 01:56pm PT
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Everything is better au chapeau...
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 29, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
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I've sported a beret since high school, but no one ever takes pics of me for obvious reason. I had to pay to fly my son out for the holidays so he could shoot this earlier today.
Bump.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - May 29, 2014 - 10:54pm PT
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Halibut Kesey.
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stoneshirt
climber
Volcan,Panama
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Hey,all.
Did'nt Henry Barber wear one.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Only one turswirey?
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RDB
Social climber
wa
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Ode to Jack
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skitch
climber
East of Heaven
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Feb 13, 2015 - 10:02pm PT
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My favorite climber in a halibut hat!
His brother wears one too!
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Feb 13, 2015 - 10:14pm PT
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Never occurred to me to ask the Gaucho on the right if he was a PNW longshoreman
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2015 - 01:47pm PT
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Steve McQueen
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jul 23, 2017 - 10:38am PT
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Another Flat Hat Bump...
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Jul 23, 2017 - 12:50pm PT
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This is a waaayyy better hat thread than the other
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Jul 23, 2017 - 04:03pm PT
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Allan Bard's ... he was rarely without it.
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Jul 23, 2017 - 04:29pm PT
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 17, 2017 - 01:16am PT
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My friend Mark Rodell contemplating what could have been.
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Mark Rodell
Trad climber
Bangkok
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Dec 17, 2017 - 01:23am PT
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Thanks Dan. A week ago I almost had a hole in one on a par 3, but then almost in golf is dang common.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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bump! the companion piece to the '70's style thread being revisited currently.
i was intrigued by guido's reference to harry bridger, an organizer-advocate for the dignity
and value of the working man. i'm hell ya, all up for that.
this is a great time for a resurgence in regard for the democratic values
that have been more than slighted by the corporatocracy in recent years
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Cap'n Pissgums in the Cochise Stronghold. Paul Davidson took this photo prior to the second ascent and FFA.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Feb 21, 2019 - 01:35pm PT
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bump for halibuts
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2019 - 06:26pm PT
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As a kid I use to ride my bike from Berkeley to Pt Richmond, through the tunnel by the Richmond Plunge and hang out on the Bay. Totally undeveloped at that time, It was the 50s, and the high point of the infamous Richmond Ramblers Motorcycle Club. It was mind boggling to watch these innovative and wild men climb and crash on the steep trails and bluffs overlooking the Bay. One of my heroes was Dick Mann and over time I got to know him, oddly enough via a climbing contact at the old Ski Hut. So here is to one of the all time greats, Dick Mann and his Halibut hat!
Little known fact is TM Herbert was seriously into motorcycles at one time........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Mann
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Camster (Rhymes with Hamster)
Social climber
CO
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Feb 23, 2019 - 06:43pm PT
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Crikey Joe!
You always post the best threads. The sailing stuff I get from you through other channels, though, is mind boggling. Makes climbing look like an after-kindergarten ice cream party.
Maybe 1988? I got an interesting email --- actually it might've been a fax back in those days ---- from Bernard Newman when I was working as the American editor of Mountain magazine. He wanted to know where to get white painters pants for climbing. He apparently needed a new pair. White painters pants looked good against grumpy English rock.
I thought it quite interesting an English gent wanted this sorta input from America. Anyway, Joe, please keep posting. (You need to write a f* book, mate.)
Cheers, Cammo
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Feb 23, 2019 - 07:00pm PT
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hey there say, guido... wow, i do not think?? that i ever
saw this thread...
:)
wow, say, first off, thanks for all the history on the caps...
and, then, for for all the climbers, climbing in them...
i love this pic:
the on with you and baby:
Guido and petite Guidette
(it was one of the first, posted, so long ago) ...
fun, share... :)
thank you again...
patty's hat collection is lacking... otherwise, this would be her:
sharing in the fun...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Feb 23, 2019 - 07:02pm PT
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hey there say, mouse... wow, great bump! i mean-- great halibut!
okay, now... as for a hat... :O
might just 'flap' up and work... although,
the guy would 'disappear' there... ;)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Feb 23, 2019 - 08:06pm PT
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Just for the halibut--
originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
Jul 23, 2017 - 12:50pm PT
This is a waaayyy better hat thread than the other
I wasn't aware there was a competition, although I have heard better examples of fatuousness, o'mac.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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^^^ Mouse! No competition, and I was merely having fun with the other hat thread you mentioned. I think that was the one where people were hating on flat brimmed hats? I guess you could say I was being fatuous, which is a word I just looked up the definition for. Love learning new grammar. Cheers dude!
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Barbarian
Trad climber
Being held captive behind the Orange Curtain
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May 29, 2019 - 04:13pm PT
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Young Barbarian.
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