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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 2, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
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Pre-or post-World War II?
If you got it … flaunt it!
[Edit] How's about anything with nostalgic appeal really, say up to late 60s.
From my father's archives, photographs taken by his adoptive parents before he was born:
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 11:30pm PT
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Older than Donini ! .... & Lauria!!!!
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martygarrison
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Washington DC
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Wow. I am sure my Dad has some from the late 50's but not from 31!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 11:33pm PT
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Barely!
Happy Birthday Champ!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
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Marty:
Late 50s could fly, that be sort of postwar right?
I say slap it down.
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John M
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We drove through the Wawona tunnel tree in the 60s. Is that old enough? :-) I need to ask my mother for pictures. She keeps saying that she will get them digitized. I think I will push her to do that this year.
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donini
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Ouray, Colorado
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Like the car. Hey....Lauria has me by ten years, i'm a mere puppy.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
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John:
Early 60s sure why not.
Maybe cap at the Tet Offensive, 1968?
Charge up your scanners kids, frankly anything that oozes nostalgia should roll nicely.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
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Lauria has me by ten years, i'm a mere puppy
True Dat.
You holdin'?
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mouse from merced
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Mouse be holdin'.
I'm posting two now, holdin' my good stuff.
These are easily found in Hank Johnston's Yosemite Memories.
The 1931 aerial view of Glacier Point shows the hotel and the terrifying sheer cliff where the Firefall fell.
The first airplane landed in Yosemite Valley in May 1919.
Flu, flew, Flue.
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Chicken Skinner
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Yosemite
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Love the dog bone photo corner holders. And of course, the images too. Thanks Roy.
Ken
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WBraun
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Hey that's illegal .... 36 CFR 2.17 ^^^^^
Those guys in the plane will have to see the judge and be banned from the park.
:-)
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Chicken Skinner
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Yosemite
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Landing that thing was probably easier than taking off. Ballsy. Werner, since when did you follow the rules?
Ken
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weezy
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pile of bark for the firefall
these are all from a "yosemite" search on shorpy.com
if you love old photos, definitely check out the whole site.
http://www.shorpy.com/
edit: don't know what's up with the links. i think shorpy doesn't allow embedding photos. just do a yosemite search on the site shorpy.com
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BooDawg
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Butterfly Town
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You want some old pictures of Yosemite?
This one fit's into your time range; it's 1952, somewhere near Tioga Pass. I'm on the picture's left; my siblings Philip and Barbara are next to me.
Not to old, you say? You wanted WAY OLD pictures! OK! I get it!
Sorry about the quality; I've inherited this album from my mother whose grandmother, Hattie Muth McCoy probably took the photos between 1900 and 1907. Since Galen Clark, my Great-Great-Great Uncle, appears in at least two of the pictures, they had to be taken before his death in 1910. (Rebecca McCoy was Galen Clark's wife.)
The photos were in such bad shape that I have been debating about scanning them or just tossing them in the trash! So, Tarbuster, your thread here helped me to decide. However, I didn't scan them; I just snapped pictures of the pictures, then reduced the size of each to something reasonable for computers (about 400 X 600 pixels each). The pages in the album and the attached photos are somewhat wrinkled, and there are some holes that time has eroded into the pages and pictures. A more diligent scanning process might improve them somewhat...
Interesting to see how they were hand-labeled with a real fountain pen...
Interesting how some of the old place-names have fallen into disuse. Anyone been to "Rocky Point," by that name?
Anyone seen a Chuck-Ah before? Even heard of one?
Anyone been up the Eagle Peak Trail?
More to come; it's hard keeping track of these; maybe I'm just getting old!
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Wayno
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Seattle, WA
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Wow. It's like a poker game. I hope nobody wins this one.
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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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Yes, Better! I keep forgetting!
Ahh, summer in the Merced River, not in Merced!
And just where did the trail to Clouds' Rest go?
The left photo above shows my grandmother standing on the rock in the river.
Seems like Agassiz Column, above, is near the 4-Mile Trail, but it's not in Roper's Green Guide. Anyone know about its climbing history?
The above left pic looks like a smiling face. the one on the right has my grandmother standing like a speck on the overhanging rock.
Pretty cool seeing Galen Clark in my family's photo album!
I think the caption refers to the trees, not the men... LOL!
No wonder that old tree fell over!
Anyone seen that "Stable Tree?" Looks like a water trough in there!
And last, but not the least is...
Actually, there is also a newspaper (origin unknown) clipping in the album which is quite interesting:
That's all Folks!
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BooDawg
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Butterfly Town
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John M: Thank you for your response. I know where Eagle Peak is and have been there myself. I'd just never heard mention of "The Eagle Peak Trail." I was speculating about whether my great-grandmother meant what we now call The Yosemite Falls Trail... Same with that "Clouds' Rest Trail."
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mooser
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seattle
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This is a great thread! Thanks for starting it Tarbuster. And BooDawg, those are some great shots.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 10:27am PT
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Mouse lands a doozy ...
Boo Dawg lays down quite a hand, Pre-World War I !!!
To the Bat Poles kids, into your Bat Caves: heat those scanners up and produce!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 10:29am PT
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Weezy: your links are busted. Maybe try again please?
(If in photo bucket go for the [img] tags: IMG will be in capitals)
Yes, Shorpy is pretty cool.
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mouse from merced
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Ken, thanks a mill for the effort. I am impressed that you realize how important these family collections are.
Our culture as a whole has progressed or evolved in this state we live in so fast, that it's fun and educational to be able to realize our grandparents had dealings with Indians like the ones depicted in those quaint snapshots.
Out of all the early-model cameras like the Brownie, of which there were dozens, including the European models, there are likely only a few hundred collections of snaps of that sort and that wintage in the country. And here we have the marvels of engineering like our digital cameras and the computers to help edit in a few clicks. Grandad had to wait a week to see how over-exposed his roll was...No pressure. Just iron determination to get it right the next time.
Unfortunately, our family, living so close to the Park, only began frequenting there in the early sixties, so the photos are touristy and prosaic and mean little to me beyond sentiment. Funny tourist hats and shorts are not my idea of photos to accompany the ones above. Except to see the difference in coutoure between the cultures, sixties vs. this decade, where it's Bermuca vs Patagonia, whereas it used to be Bermuda vs Dirtbag...
Ken, I believe the word "chuck-ah" refers to the "mouse-proofs" surrounding the man in the photo, on legs, they kept the beasties from their acorn stashes. Check with Ben C. in the Yosemite Museum.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 11:33am PT
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^^^
Unfortunately, our family, living so close to the Park, only began frequenting there in the early sixties, so the photos are touristy and prosaic and mean little to me beyond sentiment. Funny tourist hats and shorts are not my idea of photos to accompany the ones above.
Bingo.
But before this barge hits a sandbar, I'm sure we'll see plenty of those and that's okay too.
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LilaBiene
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Wow.....so GREAT!!!!! Another incredible thread, Tarbuster!
Perhaps we could persuade BooDawg to stop by your thread "Rewind: A life without climbing" to share his thoughts. He has some excellent perspective relative to your questions.
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mouse from merced
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I have some shots that are presentable, but they are not scanned yet.
I have important things to do today, like watching Stupor Bowl pimp reels on TV.
Scanning will have to wait, upstaged by "my homey" Justin and the Niners and "the read option."
edit: that was galling...
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Chiloe
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Lee, NH
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1950:
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Rick A
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Boulder, Colorado
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Good stuff, everyone!
A great reminder that summer's just around the corner.
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mouse from merced
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Ma, where's the airplane gonna land?
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mouse from merced
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Before refrigeration, every Valley meadow except Bridalveil was plowed and planted for food or livestock grazing. Here a local citizen works the meadow below Yosemite Falls.
Circa '05-'07.
Thanks again to Hank Johnston's fine work.
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Gene
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Mom and some rock in the early '60s.
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Edit: I have a bunch of pictures of Dad's aunts in the Valley from the '20s. I'll have to find them and post.
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BBA
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My grandfather worked in the valley from 1927-1946, so a lot of the family visited there and took pictures. Here are a couple of the Indian Village area my Mom took in 1931.
Usually all we get are images to wonder at, but in my effort to document my grandfather’s life and times, I received interesting detail. This photo and description came from one of my cousins who also lived in the valley in the 30's and 40's.
Tabuce (Maggie Howard) was a Paiute Indian woman of unknown age. My mother used to go to the Yosemite Indian Village (somewhat of a ghetto) to take flour sacks to her for collecting acorns. I remember her house, filled with sacks of acorns instead of furniture. Grandma Kat [Jeanne] was a good friend of Tabuce. We would often walk to the museum garden in summer. At the back of the garden was a sort of Indian display... bark teepee, dance area and cooking circle. Tabuce sat on a big flat stone in the cooking area, sometimes grinding acorns in stone indentations, cooking the acorns in cooking baskets to remove the bitterness, mashing them up, then forming acorn patties to bake on very hot rocks. When they were done, she sprinkled them with tart, red, ground [Manzanita] berries. I really loved them! Most tourists didn't. Almost every time we visited Tabuce, Grandma would go to Boysen's (next to Ansel Adams' Best Studio) where she'd buy vanilla ice cream cones for the three of us. I treasure the memory of watching Tabuce and Grandma sitting side by side on the rocks enjoying the treat. Few words were ever spoken. Not needed, I suppose.
Several Paiute children went to Yosemite School with me. The men were mostly road workers. They weren't allowed to buy or drink alcohol.
I have a lot of Yosemite history at this link which is one of the volumes of my grandfather's life.
https://sites.google.com/site/katbiography/volume-iv
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ionlyski
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Best thread-ever? Holly schizzle!
Are there more farming, agriculture and logging photos out there? Anybody have any homesteading information? In 1906, the forest homestead act was enacted yet Glacier National Park was created in 1910, so we had about a hundred homesteaders that suddenly found themselves within the National Park. Most visitors come to these parks and think they are untouched, pristine wilderness without having an appreciation of the cultural history that preceded.
Anyway, thanks for sharing; love the old stuff.
Arne
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Edge
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New Durham, NH
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These came to us by way of my grandparents, after their passing. They hung in our central stairwell for the last 17 years.
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mouse from merced
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Those are very beautiful and placid photos.
The pair is a good reflection on your family's taste.
I've been raiding Merced's thrift stores and collectibles shops for Yosemite cards and photos, etc. I'm going to have to get out to Atwater and to Le Grand here one of these days.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2013 - 10:27am PT
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BBA cuts through the forum Chossapalooza and scores a big one!
Go to his link kids, there's a book in there.
From the US Government Printing Office, 1927:
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mouse from merced
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Feb 10, 2013 - 04:50am PT
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The AdAmAn Club pose on their annual hike up Pike's Peak, above Colorado Springs, El Paso County, Colorado. They wear laced boots, striped, knit hats, and tall socks; one holds skis and a dog; another has a bedroll on his back.
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mouse from merced
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Feb 10, 2013 - 05:11am PT
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15th Inf. training in Washington, WWII.
Searching for the what? Where?
We'll let them see the whites of our eyes and that's all.
And try to find the guys in this shot. I can't.
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mouse from merced
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BBA, thanks. I haven't visited the Tunnel Thread in weeks. Good stuff from a way-backer.
Here are some scans from old Sierra Club Bulletins & not necessarily related directly to Yosemite except by being in the same range or on the same continent.
and my favorite
All are taken from the SCB before it was up-sized in the fifties.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I dragged Mathew Brady up Half Dome where he took my picture...
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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this is the worst thread i've ever seen on this supertopo! :) just kidding..
great pictures. even better are the indan shots.
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stonefly
Social climber
Alameda, California
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Reads "Tuolumne Pass" on back of print. ex-Lewis Clark. Photo c.1929
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BBA
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Here are three photos from 1928-1929. My grandfather went to work for the Yosemite Park and Curry Company in 1927. His car got up to the valley, probably driven by his son. My grandfather was challenged to the extreme when it came to driving. The car just sat there in the Old Village in front of the Sentinel Hotel gathering dust or snow, depending on the season.
A film crew showed up to do some work on a serial, something quite popular then, and my grandfather was given to show them around. A big attraction in movies way back when was a car going off a cliff. One thing led to another...
The car gathering snow
My grandfather interacting with the film's stars (he's on the ground)
With all the interaction, his payoff was to sell the car to the film company and they shoved it off a cliff, probably on one of the roads leading out of Big Meadow (West of the Valley).
I mentioned a link earlier in this thread, and full details of this little story are there on page 24-29.
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mouse from merced
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Mar 10, 2013 - 07:16am PT
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Avery Burns Collection.
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BBA
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Mar 11, 2013 - 11:55am PT
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These shots are of a hike up Half Dome in August 1928 by my Mom and two friends. Two things are notable about the trip, the trail apparently went by Lost Lake which is far from its current location, and aside from the girls, no one was on the cables.
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donini
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Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 11, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
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I have some old black and white pictures of getting across the bergshrund onto to the rock the first time i did El Cap. It was definetly the crux....good thing that the glacier is gone and today's climbers don't have to deal with it.....definetly R. I'll see if i can find them and get them scanned.
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mouse from merced
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Mar 11, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
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Bill, that was a wonderful share: Everyone should get to lace on a pair of the boots the girls are sporting!
Jim, don't tell me you lost the slides from the earlier ice age, please!
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donini
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Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 11, 2013 - 12:15pm PT
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Still can't find them, i think they may have gone down with the Ark.
Or, then, did the Ark go down?
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mouse from merced
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Mar 12, 2013 - 02:35am PT
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Edge
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Mar 12, 2013 - 09:37am PT
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I just found this book that I forgot I even owned. 'The binding is in pretty rough shape, but I think it deserves a gentle read-through.
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BBA
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Mar 12, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
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In researching Yosemite in the 1930's, I came across a book by Fernando Peñalosa (Yosemite in the 1930s) in which he said he spent hours and hours in the Library in the Museum building, and he had a photograph of the tables he sat at. Interestingly enough, these tables were made by my grandfather, William Kat, under contract with the Park Service and today reside at the Mariposa Museum along with some of the other furniture he made.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Mar 16, 2013 - 01:25am PT
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Thanks for all the wonderfully pictures of Yosemite.
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mouse from merced
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This is John Burroughs, the most famous nature writer of his day.
http://www.pbs.org/harriman/1899/1899_part/participantburroughs.html
It's taken here locally, I'm told. Don't know where, but there's a prominent foothill sticking into the background...
I'm not sure who else is involved or in the picture or who took the picture, because wasn't paying much attention. This was lifted off a computer screen.
I was too involved in dickering for this photo, a 20 x 16 of the Upper Yo Fall in winter shot from a helicopter rented by a professional man named Clark, working for the University of California during the selection process for the newest UC campus location in the 90s.
It's not that back in the day at all, but it's way-cool!
Check the others out over at The Flames' camp.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 9, 2013 - 12:15am PT
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Much thanks to Mouse et al. Who've been contributing such jewels to keep this thread going!
BBA: I love those trestle tables.
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mouse from merced
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I came across this batch in a one dollar bin in an antiques and collectibles mall. They are courtesy of Stranded Oil of Oklahoma & Nebraska.
This spiral bound picture set was a promotion for Standard Oil Station, and Chevron Gas Stations in 1947. The idea was to collect pictures at gas stations as you were traveling, and filling up at the gas stations. Each is a scenic view from various parts of the country. So these images are from 1946-47, older than I.
Part ofThe See Your West Scenic View Series in all its rotogravure glory--somebody else got to these first or we'd have had some Yosemite shot, likely.
See ya, SOON.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 9, 2013 - 10:03pm PT
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Some really nice retouching to be seen in that last batch!
The faux signage hanging off of El Capitan upthread a ways is awfully cute as well.
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mouse from merced
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Apr 16, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
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Far, far away in time,
To Half Dome we climb.
An adventurous group around the time of the first world war's ending, from a book/album labeled 1918.
Second from left is Carmella Collins Johnson, who was Norton Johnson's first wife. Norton took this photo. He is Skip Johnson's adoptive father, who adopted young Skip at a late age. This is why Skip's house is a trove of old stuff.
Here's Yosemite Falls, same album.
Skip's a notorious motorcycle enthusiast and he likes old cars, too. Bikes are his collectibles, though.
He thinks the Indian in the Yosemite Museum's the one from El Portal's RR exhibit. He's probably right.
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mouse from merced
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Apr 24, 2013 - 06:28am PT
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Yosemite Indian Field Days - June Lake, in Mono County. Since the best Yosemite Indian baskets came from the Mono Lake Paiutes. Yosemite NPS held the Yosemite Field Days at June Lake by Mono Lake and every winner for Yosemite Indian baskets was always a Yosemite-Mono Lake Paiute. The majority of the basketmakers of Yosemite resided in both Yosemite and Mono Lake. They would go back and forth, like they had done for eons. Their parents lived mainly in Paiute areas or they did. They were mostly born around Mono Lake and other Paiute areas. Not in Mariposa County...and not Miwok.
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donini
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Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 24, 2013 - 10:49am PT
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Great photos Mouse!!! I can't help but think.....those people on the cables are no longer here, the cables will soon (geologic time) be gone but Half Dome has " relative" permanence.
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mouse from merced
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Apr 29, 2013 - 07:32am PT
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Eureka! I managed to find the one I really wanted to find, and there are three more waiting just like this one.
The Standard Oil See Your West Scenic Views Set, twenty-five different photos.
"Usmati, meaning grizzly bear."This thing's older than Donini by less than two years.
And we are back to Valley View.
Quite a spin.
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mouse from merced
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From Along Sierra Trails by Joyce and Josef Muench, 1947.
Thanks, Sierra (Nevada optional) Ledge Rat!
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mouse from merced
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Again, imagery calls
Again, imagery falls
Into my lap.
"Oh, Ansel," imagery calls,
"the Westons are here!"
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mouse from merced
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Of course this is Arrowhead Arete, AS WE NOW KNOW IT.
This struck me as I read "YOSEMITE" on the caption, but that was it, there was nothing to indicate the name of this particular feature, just that one word.
I then realized that this photo must have been taken by someone unfamiliar with the local name of what is called Castle Cliffs, commonly. I believe it is an older name than Arrowhead, but would have to check.
Ansel may not have known or he may have said something. One can only speculate.
Leading to this other by the Westons. I think it is of the Minarets.
edit: Next morning, as I am reading Charis Weston's description of the travel and events covered in California and the West, it comes out that Weston was the recipient of a $2,000 Guggenheim Fellowship, the first photographer to ever be awarded one. It is no wonder when people had been saying things about Weston and his work such as, "Photography is beginning to be photography, for until now it has only been art."
During this period the Westons made seventeen separate trips, travelled over 16,000 miles, and Weston made 1,260 negatives. A second year was funded by the Guggenheim based on this record of accomplishment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Weston
When you look at the work of Muench and Weston, the one is a tourism promoter and his wife's prose is loaded, bloated in fact, with adjectives and adverbs and most shots are "stock" views.
In the case of Charis' writing, she tells the story in an engaging manner, and the photos are much more artistic and creative. Their reproduction is far superior, obviously.
We need both kinds of people, tourists and artists, just as there's a place for each type of photograph. It's a huge world, just seems to be shrinking.
Again thanks to Skip Johnson of Merced, for the loan of this book.
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mouse from merced
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Isaac Minor owned a quarry. This granite boulder was native to Humboldt Co. and was split and sectioned by imported Italian quarrymen for use in Minor's mausoleum. Due to his dying out of the area, he is believed to be the only member of his family not buried in the tomb.
Believe It or I'm Telling Mummy!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
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Much thanks Mouse, for fattening the album and pasting the historic prose!
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throwpie
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Berkeley
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Yours truly, Badger Pass
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mouse from merced
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May 10, 2013 - 11:38am PT
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The informed know Throw is a throw back to the way back. He's also one of the balancinest guys in the land and can he land them, whether on a skateboard, a skim board, a surf board, a sail board, and on snow boards, I'm not sure, but those boards he's on at Bagger are about to be schooled.
1958? You were like seven or eight. Tubular.
Jim Shirley posted these to me hier soir. He writes about his father, Howard Shirley, who recently ceased being here:
"Howard worked one summer as a packer's helper. I think this was between 1936 and 1938 (he would have been 17-19 years old). It looks like these pics came from a trip with our grandpa Frank Shirley. I'm not sure where the trip went but my guess would be to Rae Lakes and the Kearsarge Pinnacles. It should be possible to tell from the photos, if we could go to these places and compare them.
The wrangler is Howard (almost certainly) and the good buds are Howard and Frank (unless I am sadly mistaken). The hunter looks like Frank holding our old Marlin 22 rifle (which I still have).
I tell my kids that they have a long history of mountain-lovers in their ancestry. John Mattson has lantern slides showing Frank's dad, Henry Shirley, on a trip in the 20's. So Henry, Frank, Howard, me, and Kat and Mary cover 5 generations."
Thank you, Jim and family.
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mouse from merced
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The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 15, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 15, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
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Thank you, old National Geographic collectors.
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go-B
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Hebrews 1:3
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Jun 15, 2013 - 11:07pm PT
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What meadow!
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
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Jun 15, 2013 - 11:59pm PT
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One of my photos from the 80s. Short scramble off 4 mile trail I think.
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neebee
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calif/texas
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Jun 16, 2013 - 12:12am PT
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hey there say, tarbuster and mouse...
this is a very sweet wonderful and adventure of the heart, share...
thanks so very much!!!
god bless with more open doors, for these neat finds...
thanks again!
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Tarbuster
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right here, right now
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 16, 2013 - 02:02am PT
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The Firefall!
Had never seen direct evidence until now. How fun!
This thread proves to be a consistent treasure trove!
Big thanks to Mouse and of course by extension Howard and Frank Shirley!
Terrific rainbow over the Grand Canyon of The Tuolumne BTW.
'Special place in my heart of hearts for Roy Rogers at the Tournament of Roses or sauntering down whatever dusty trail may yet exist in our vaulted memories.
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stonefly
Social climber
Alameda, California
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Jun 16, 2013 - 10:11am PT
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BBA
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OF
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Jun 16, 2013 - 10:40am PT
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Here is the same model vehicle up at Wawona. My aunt (standing right rear) worked there in the summer of 1929 at age 16, and she and the other employees are pictured.
Moving forward to 1943 in WWII when almost no one visited the Valley, a jeep was a treasured item. At the time the valley also had taxi service, but I've got no pictures. My Mom is on the left front hood, and I am in the lap of the driver.
Since we are all climbers here, a shot of BBA bouldering in 1943 behind my grandparents Old Village house.
Here is a shot of farming in the valley (someone mentioned Valley agriculture upstream)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 16, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
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El Tronador del Rey de los Gauchos, Roy.
Roy, mi amigo, is either o' these hombres the Kat that ate yur new boots?
!Arriba!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 16, 2013 - 02:36pm PT
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Since Tarbuster's such a great dude, I'm publishing some more cowboying shots to show my appreciation.
This historic shot shows the first recorded use of Da Brim in action in Switzerland. Notice he's tied the side up so he can see the rocks as they come falling down on his protective beret.
Beret~belay, and check out this set-up.
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Jun 17, 2013 - 05:09am PT
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Tarbuster, Boo-Dawg, Mouse from Merced and others, excellent photos.
I have also heard of chuck-ahs having done a course in 1975 on Miwoks at Columbia College (then Columbia Junior College, quarter system now semester I believe) (as well as courses on Californian Indians and North American Indians).
At Columbia College there is a Me-Wuk Cultural Centre. Miwok, Me-Wuk, several ways of spelling the people/'tribe'. It is well worth visiting.
I can see why they traded acorns for salt (from Mono Lake) with the Paiutes and Mono people, as part of the course we had to make mashed acorns (using the mortar 'cup' and stone pestle at the Miwok centre on campus) and talk about tasteless, one needs salt or something. (I wonder if there was wild garlic in those days, sure would help, but yes mixing with berries and stuff the 'pancakes' we made were better.)
Sorry I do not have any vintage photos of Yosemite.
EDIT I have been looking for photos of Miwoks, especially the Ahwahnechee (Paiute?). I'll try to post some.
There is still some debate if the Ahwahnechee were Paiute (probably) or Miwok, or perhaps the tribes commingled in the Valley and intermixed.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 27, 2013 - 12:34am PT
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mouse from merced
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The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Sep 17, 2013 - 11:07pm PT
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What's up with 1931? Well, its mojo is powerful.
http://www.supertopo.com/forumsearch.php?v=0&cur=0&ftr1=1931&ftr2=&ftr3=&ftr4=&scope=topics
From the files of Pop Laval out of Fresno.
He's a pioneer in many things photographic, aerial, movies & such. But he wasn't around to take these all. He had binders/files. And more patience than anyone but another photographer realizes.
Fresno is a tool.
Modesto had a really royal arch.
Bagby had a dam and a mill but was inundated...
Midpines was nearly hyphenated.
The Wawona Grove had a drive-thru, a shill...
With no ticket I'd be there still!
His mojo was extremely powerful.
So are his historic photos.
Thanks, Pop!
Wiki-freaks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_%22Pop%22_Laval
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 28, 2013 - 11:39am PT
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FIRE! On the RIM![Click to View YouTube Video]This is gold. It features the man who ran the ski ops at Gabber Bass, the fine gentleman, Nick Fiorefall. In the purple ball cap.
Before asphalt or concrete, even. The crank telephone of highways.
One of the official Yosemite Guardians.
First wagon to pass through Arch Rock.
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, to TARBUSTER!
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Dec 28, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
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Thomas Hill: One of my favorite artist.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dec 28, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
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I ended up with an exemplary collection of turn early 1900's photos from an Oakland family album. My uncle got it from a film studio in Hollywood and understood the studio purchased it at an estate sale, the above photos are some of the images of Yosemite. Hard to believe there was no one left of what must of been a very well established family in Oakland. The Studebaker on Glacier Point was a stunt for the car company and is the only reproduction in the entire album the rest are originals.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dec 28, 2013 - 11:00pm PT
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Bump for old photo's.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jan 30, 2014 - 04:25am PT
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"Because leaseholds could not be granted for more than a ten-year period, many Yosemite Valley hotelkeepers were loathe to invest much money in needed repairs or improvements. The possibility always existed that, after such work was done, their lease would not be renewed and their successor would be the only one to benefit.
Due to the inability in the 1880s of the existing hotels to accommodate visitors in the more pretentious style desired by its legislators, the state decided to appropriate funds for a new four-story hotel to house 150 guests. The state would lease the new facility to someone under the commissioners’ control and subject to removal if necessary.
The twenty-sixth state legislature appropriated forty thousand dollars for the project in 1885, and the next year construction commenced on the Stoneman House, named for the former governor of California.
According to Lafayette Bunnell, the Stoneman House, erected at Boling’s Point and Spring, occupied the earlier site of Capt. John Boling’s race course and exercising grounds. While that second expedition of the Mariposa Battalion sojourned in the valley and explored the Sierra, the soldiers exploited various avenues of recreation, among them exercising the animals..."
From the NPS Library
http://www.yosemite.ca.us/library/yosemite_resources/state_grant.html#page_88
Happy Trails.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jan 30, 2014 - 04:50am PT
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http://www.yosemite.ca.us/pioneer-yosemite-history-center/anderson_home.html
And from another of the Trail Builders, one Geo Anderson, following in Mr. Snow's footsteps, we eventually get to the top of Laff Dome.
In 1882 George C. Anderson contracted with the Yosemite commissioners and began construction on a trail up the north bank of the Merced River from Happy Isles Bridge to Vernal Fall.
He originally planned to build the trail all the way up the north side to the top of the falls near Snow’s hotel, but when costs began to run way over budget and the trail ran into a granite cliff through which it would be necessary to blast, the commission ordered the project stopped.
In 1885 the commissioners had a connection built from a point on Anderson’s trail uphill to a new bridge below Vernal Fall, across which it joined the Snow Trail. Anderson’s abandoned trail left the present path about three hundred feet below the bridge at Vernal Fall and continued uphill—broad, substantial, and wide as a wagon road — until it ended abruptly in a grove of trees.
The earlier south trail along the Merced ultimately fell into disuse. Anderson built a blacksmith shop along his trail that is mentioned in some of the old commissioners’ reports. Its remains were cleaned up by National Park Service crews in 1957.
A surprise for you is on this link. Guess what?
http://www.yosemite.ca.us/library/yosemite_resources/images/illustration_29.jpg
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Ads from old National Geographics.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2014 - 12:16pm PT
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Vintage Nick Fiore on film!
A Studebaker hanging 10 on glacier point ...
The Stoneman House.
We be holdin'!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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We be singin', too, Roy.
Sometimes Shirley [Sargent] would teach folk songs or college drinking songs to young people riding in the back of her car, as a way of dispelling boredom.
Parents must have protested some of the bawdier songs, no doubt to little avail, for when she was not working,
Shirley was into fun.
She had liked to sing at least since her college days. She especially loved to sing at Christmas time,
with noted Yosemite musician Tom Bopp at the piano of the Wawona Hotel.
Shirley liked Yosemite songs such as "I'm Strong for Camp Curry," to which she knew all the words. She would also get very nostalgic about the now abandoned Firefall.
As Tom wrote...
"I'd call from the piano, 'Helllllooo Glaaacierr! to which she would answer 'Helllooo, Currrrry!; and then 'Let the fire fall!!!!!'; after which I was obliged to perform the 'Indian Love Call.'"
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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May 10, 2014 - 01:30pm PT
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BooDawg
Awesome pics. Have you thought of letting the Museum copy them? Especially the Indian related ones?
Beautiful writing on the notes. Way Back when penmanship was important. (I should talk, my scribble is unintelligible to me)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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May 21, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]The Upski Tow at Badger Pass and dog-sledding in the Valley.
A fine historical look at our Chinese heritage in Yosemite. Thank you, Ranger Chan. This was very well-done and there are tons of old photos used.
[Click to View YouTube Video]Sing Peak, on the border of Yosemite, is named for the talented and much-appreciated Chinese cook of that name.
There is no Wayno Peak, thank goodness, because they only name peaks for dead persons nowadays.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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May 24, 2014 - 01:29pm PT
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My girlfriend just shared these great photos... The first picture is a postcard and the bottom pictures is her Aunt and girlfriends in Yosemite in 1935....
ekat, check these out.^
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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May 26, 2014 - 07:24pm PT
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Yes, very reminiscent of the young J-Do, Mouster. Later on, Pilgrims, during the long stay in Calcutta washing the feet of the poor and leading a life of absolute abstinence, a graying and supplicant J-Do appears in this portrait:
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John M
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May 26, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
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Too funny Peter!
Mouse, I like those ski videos. Those slopes behind badger sure were clear of trees back then. Must have been the logging in the early 1900s.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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May 26, 2014 - 08:37pm PT
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Nita,
They need a similar sign at the top of Nevada falls methinks.
(not that it would help)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 16, 2014 - 03:39pm PT
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go-B
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Cling to what is good!
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Aug 16, 2014 - 04:00pm PT
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Aug 16, 2014 - 06:34pm PT
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Go-B, can you tell us anything about that old photo? And thanks!
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go-B
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Cling to what is good!
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Aug 16, 2014 - 06:49pm PT
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Cool huh, Peter...
That's Mary, Werner, and Bullwinkle when they first got to the Valley!
off eBay, that's all I got! :)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 16, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
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How's this, Peter?
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 16, 2014 - 08:54pm PT
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Way to make ends meet with go-B Mouse!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 14, 2014 - 11:39am PT
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How's about anything with nostalgic appeal really, say up to late 60s.O.P.1860s even?
What they did with their abundance of snow-melt to their lovely slopes.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 15, 2014 - 12:51am PT
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And Carleton E. Watkins was asked to join the much smaller version of Clarence King's fourth trip into the West to survey and to map for the Fortieth Parallel Survey.
O'Sullivan had gone south to photograph the possible route of a Panama canal.
King referred to Watkins as "the most skillful operator in America."
There is a poem here in this link that is pretty speculative. I liked it.
http://tomclarkblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/watkins-after-chaos.html
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Oct 15, 2014 - 08:16am PT
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How about the photo of the party on the Half Dome cable route circa 1920s and the guy in the straw hat and a tie. Now that's some formal mountain climbing for you right there . . .
JL
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 15, 2014 - 10:29am PT
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Canna locate it, laddie.
Close, but no cigar.
The Half Dome cables, originally installed in 1920 by the Sierra Club, were replaced and strengthened by CCC workers....The final 400 ft (120 m) ascent is steeply up the rock between two steel cables used as handholds.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 15, 2014 - 09:35pm PT
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Oct 21, 2014 - 08:12am PT
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May 1920. Yosemite National Park. "Prize Cup, Fourth Annual AAA Economy Run, Los Angeles to Camp Curry." An early test of fuel efficiency sponsored by Standard Oil of California. 8x6 inch glass negative originally from the Wyland Stanley collection of San Francisciana, acquired and scanned by Shorpy.com
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 21, 2014 - 08:45am PT
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That picture is of a 1921 Chevrolet, it seems, Peter (as if you haven't already checked for yourself).
Here's a link to the look-alike which I found on Google.
http://oldcarbrochures.org/NA/Chevrolet/1921_Chevrolet/1921-Chevrolet
Hubs, fenders, windshield, lights and grill all seem to match.
Pretty good place for a rag-top to tool around in.
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kate.ogden@stockton.edu
climber
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Dear Mouse from Merced: I really like the photo "Yosemite Indian Field Days - June Lake, in Mono County." Do you have the original photo? And would you consider scanning a large copy of it for publication in a book? I'm looking for illustrations for my book Yosemite: Nature and Culture (Reaktion Books, London, 2015) - yes, yet another book on Yosemite! You can email me directly at: kate.ogden@stockton.edu I would much appreciate it.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Feb 18, 2015 - 12:32am PT
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I'll check, Kate. Sorry for the wait.
I haven't checked this thread in...well, you can see for yourself! :0)
I've got one from "Boomer." I know my dad was Boomer, and there's a Boomer who runs Sierra Summit over in Fresno County, and this may be his film.
[Click to View YouTube Video]Whichever, but Boomer shot a B-52 bomber and snuck it into the last frames. The last we saw of B-52s here was in the mid-nineties when Castle AFB, the local SAC base, closed on the orders of the C-in-C, Bill C.
This has some high-water shots, a treat for us in these dry years.[Click to View YouTube Video]Narrator's misinformed as to the actual name of Sentinel Dome, which he calls Sentinel Rock.
There is a soft-pedal appeal to the consumer to fly American.
Yosemite National Park, 1950s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M0nFoqeT4s
Straght travelog.
Let's See Yosemite, 1938
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqr0qN4IVgI
Glacier Pt. Hotel, Half Dome ascent via cables, no insipid narrator, no muzak, just let the eyes take over.
EXCELLENT AND WELL WORTH THE LOOK!
Howdy, Roy!
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Feb 18, 2015 - 06:48am PT
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We recently discovered, in old photos, that my wife's grandfather, as a young boy, traveled to Yosemite with his parents sometime near 1900. We've got ample photographs—which were all mounted on cardboard—about the trip done with three horse-drawn carriages originating from Claremont, here in Southern California.
Here are a few:
Several additional tourist photos in the set were taken by Fiske.
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Gypsy
Social climber
NC
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Feb 18, 2015 - 07:15am PT
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My mom and dad, a cousin of my mom's, and my eldest sister, Kathie about 1948 at the Wawona tree in the Mariposa Grove
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Tarbuster
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right here, right now
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2015 - 06:16pm PT
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OMG.
This thread truly is the gift that keeps on giving!
I had no idea.
(Okay maybe I had an idea ...)
Robs Muir wrote about his pictures:
three horse-drawn carriages originating from Claremont That is GOLD Robs.
Super, super stuff everyone.
Hi Mouse!
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Feb 18, 2015 - 06:47pm PT
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Thanks Rob!!
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Feb 18, 2015 - 09:29pm PT
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A treasure. Thank you Mr. Muir and everyone.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Mar 21, 2015 - 10:11am PT
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Shaws Flat, kind of on the road to Yosemite. Near enough, anyway.In 1850 this community was alive with gold miners, James D. Fair,
after whom the Fairmont Hotel in SF is named was one of the most notable.
The Mississippi House built in 1850 contains many relics including the original bar and
post office with its grill and mail boxes.
On a nearby hill stands the old bell given by miners which summoned men to work and announced
the convening of various courts.
According to tradition, a local bartender added to his income by panning gold dust dropped
on his muddy boots while serving customers.
The old Mississippi House. Two pumps, no waiting.B/W photos derived from the mother of a friend of a relative's Clamper buddy's neighbor.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Mar 21, 2015 - 10:57am PT
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George Fisk & James McCauley stand at the back of this pack of kids. L to R, Harlow and Lillian Parks, Alice Degnan, Mildred Sovulewski, Eugene Tucker, Lawrence Sovulewski, Evelyn Tucker, Ellen Boysen, and Grace Sovulewski.
The story goes that the children of Gabriel and Rose Sovulewski shared their father's love and esteem for Galen Clark, having lived with Gabriel and under his guidance--Galen was a hero to Gabriel; yet they had a hard time accepting the elderly John Muir, as his clothes were messy and dirty and he smelled of wine.
The Ewings moved to a ranch near Mariposa later in life.
Gabriel's ideal unit for trails was an eight-man crew with a ninth man to supervise and lend a hand. There are eight men in this shot, so one man may have been elected to make the photograph.
Frank Ewing's main job came to be caring for the roads leading into and through YNP. Gabriel's attention was often more necessary watching over 625 miles of trails in the Park. He was always in the saddle, up to fourteen hours a day, many times.
Gabriel and his spouse Rose are at rest in the Yosemite Cemetery.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Mar 21, 2015 - 11:03am PT
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Mouse-
thanks for the photo of the plaque.
BH is my great great grandfather.
love this thread.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 23, 2015 - 10:34pm PT
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hey there say, all... just a bump...
mouse recently mentioned this...
i had not remembered if i had seen it or posted, but, after peeking back, yes, i HAD SEEN IT... but not after my last post...
wow, glad i got back, thanks mouse, as:
say, just saw THIS:
drljefe... what a nice thing to learn, about your GREAT GREAT grandfather...
i DID wonder, when i saw the bret harte...
also, thanks BBA and booDawg and SO many many others for these
wonderful shares of priceless memories, of many folks, SET DOWN here
in lovely treasured pics!
thanks so much for all the share...
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Photos from the book Yosemite: The Embattled Wilderness by Alfred Runte.
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BBA
Social climber
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Apr 19, 2015 - 08:22am PT
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I would guess the Yosemite Junction Inn photo posted on 4/7 was most likely late 30's or early 40's based on the automobiles in the picture.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 19, 2015 - 09:38am PT
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BBA, it's totally obvious, now you mention it. MY SISTER IS WRONG!
How embarrassing--FOR HER!
Wait'll I mention it to her...
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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May 31, 2015 - 06:07pm PT
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for nita, a big firefall fan.
Complete with strings in the background.
[Click to View YouTube Video]That is the same clip, repeated several times, from the 1954 release, Caine Mutiny, starring Bogart.
This is much nicer, from Getty Images.
http://datab.us/EhsGw3tYMog#Yosemite Fire Fall 1960s - Old footage
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Both photos from Shirley Sargent's book, Yosemite & Its Innkeepers, 1975, Flying Spur Press.
More to come!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 10, 2015 - 05:34pm PT
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"Why, that's a Wild Gazooba, miss. Have you never seen one? And for that matter, have you ever seen a peach-a-tilla bird?"
The Birdman of Yosemite
as told by Shirley Sargent
(Inkeepers of Yosemite)
“Kenneyville” was the quondam name of the area around the base of the Royal Arches. It was the site of the YPCC stables (moved further east). It was “dismantled” to make way for the Ahwahnee Hotel.
When Kenneyville was torn down in 1926...Herbert Sonn, the “Birdman of Yosemite, was homeless.
Born in 1879 and raised in Newark, New Jersey, Sonn was a member of a distinguished scientific and artistic family but he was adventurous and traveled west in 1914. In Yosemite Valley he found a home and career in taming birds.
Before long, he had a work shop in Kenneyville where he fashioned novel bird caricatures from pine cones, acorns, nuts, bark, and moss. He called them “Wild Gazoobas” and gave them titles such as “Jimmy Seekoya,” “Peach-a-tilla,” and “Yosemite Zip.” He kept two such exotic creatures in a wire cage labelled, “Somthing the scientists overlooked—WHISTLING KAZILLA (Pinekona Californikus),”
Not only did he sell his pinecone birds but copyrighted them, had postcards made, and sold the cards to tourists. When Kenneyville was dismantled, Sonn appealed to Mrs. Curry for a site at Camp Curry, and she allowed him a place on the western edge of camp.
There amid boulders, pines, and oaks, the slight, gentle Birdman had a tent for an office and another one for a home, tables, several bird-feeding stations, and a cleared space where people gathered to watch his twice-daily bird shows.
A manzanita and rock fence enclosed his camp, and a trail bisected it. [One old-timer] says his first Yosemte job was working for the Birdman in 1936. He was twelve and paid an occasional quarter for, as he wrote, "packing souvenir birds for shipment, arranging the chairs before his lectures, and sometimes raking the yard...”
At other times it was his duty to retrieve the ball bearings Sonn had aimed at ground squirrels with a sling shot.
Park naturalists felt that Sonn’s lectures gave people an appreciation and interest in birds and conservation, and this was concurred by Horace Albright (Bigwiggus enpeeesso). Onlookers watched varied birds land to eat, while Sonn described their traits and role in bird life.
About 1932 the Birdman married a Camp Curry maid.
Until retirement in 1937, he continued to give shows, and sell bird creations and postcards at Camp Curry. In July, 1934, no less a personage than Eleanor Roosevelt thrilled him with a visit and an order for pinecone birds to give her grandchildren.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 12, 2015 - 05:34am PT
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Very recent vintage, from the seventies, I believe.Lucy's family is still pursuing this as a mainstay of their lives, and they had a basketry gig just two days ago.
http://us3.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b3fdad07568d5879b9bac372f&id=d68ce82fd7&e=b8bb33a29a
And quite a bit older...
"Where Arrow?"
"There Arrow."
"It is 3,000 feet to the Bottom
And no undertaker to meet you
TAKE NO CHANCES
There is a difference
Between bracery and just plain
ORDINARY FOOLISHNESS."
In other words,
"Everything here is dangerous. Come here at your own risk, touron."
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 12, 2015 - 06:18am PT
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Ha ha. You wrote bracery instead of bravery.
I was thinking to myself "is that some archaic colloquial or just a typo?".
Well, bravery is a rather bracing tonic for the spirit!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 12, 2015 - 06:25am PT
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The Valley was already screwed in 1931, the crowds just hadn't arrived. An area as sublime as Yosemite Valley should have been preserved in its natural state not made into a photo op amusement park.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 12, 2015 - 06:29am PT
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Yes Jim, but we all know about your penchant for softserve ice cream!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 12, 2015 - 06:32am PT
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Ah....my Achilles Heel!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 12, 2015 - 08:27am PT
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You've been "braced," O 'nini!
It was a legitimate typo, Roi. But it's nice to keep 'em guessin' and nice to see who's lookin' in at this decrepit photography.
I am reading this book by Sergeant Shirley concurrently with Yosemite: The Embattled Wilderness.
It is fun to see the underpinnings of climbers' hatred for the YP&CC and know it's not for the Currys themselves, who genuinely loved the Park, but for the spirit of greed which infected Saint Steven Mather as head of the NPS.
It is role reversal of the strangest kind.
Maybe someday there will come to be a more perfect union of protection and use in the NPS, but it won't be soon.
Remember, the NPS makes the rules. So no matter what the pressure from concessionaires and their stockholders to allow them to fudge, the NPS is still the answerable entity, that is, they are supposed to have some balls when standing up for and advocating for the land and the people who own the land.
Who happen to be stupid Americans, but I'll let Werner-speak alone, for he's apparently happy enough and anyway, he will be out of the loop shortly as an iconoclast working from within.
There was a much worse flood in 1937, I've found. But none top the deerstruction of the '97 whammy, the so-called "hundred-year flood."
When I came to stay in C4, lousy hang that it was, the old Degnan house still stood near the chapel, housing the Donohues. I'm not certain it lasted long and really don't remember if it's still there, but I strongly doubt it.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 12, 2015 - 09:01am PT
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Know thy enemy."We know who makes the rules, where the money's supposed to go. We are the directors."
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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"Brace" yerselves!
THE FIRST OF MANY:
Ranger Yount.By "not my book" I mean that I did not write it. Mice cannot write. This is only common sense.
I purchased it today. It's got some great stories.
This thread could use some verbiage. The roi and the o'nini were walking to the base of the El Cap Tree when the two were suddenly pelted with peanuts...it's the same old tired tale, so there's no point in repeating it again here.
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Jul 24, 2015 - 02:29pm PT
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1969 was a transformational year in the park as the Wawona tree fell, the Glacier Point Hotel burned down and, I believe it was the fire fall's last year... and by the following year, well, "the times they were a changin'.
Great film of Adams getting the shot heard round the world (or at least Northern California). Thank whatever for the red filter and the dark room. What a remarkable work.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 26, 2015 - 02:26pm PT
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 26, 2015 - 02:57pm PT
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 26, 2015 - 03:10pm PT
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 26, 2015 - 03:13pm PT
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 26, 2015 - 04:31pm PT
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Neat pictures M from M.....keep digging them up!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 26, 2015 - 05:49pm PT
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Thanky, Jim. That little stroke should keep me goin' for another couple weeks plus! Nice to know someone's lookin' in.
Actual climb done in '47.
That pushy donini kid ain't here. We should all just go for it. What say, Warren?
Such a wonderful website
http://www.yosemiteclimbing.org/
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 29, 2015 - 01:18pm PT
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The loop trail concept escapes some people.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 22, 2015 - 07:24pm PT
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Ralph Anderson photo for USNPS.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 22, 2015 - 07:30pm PT
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 22, 2015 - 07:33pm PT
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"Frankly, Susan, I don't care how they do it at your mother's clinic. This is MY clinic, so STFU."
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 22, 2015 - 07:35pm PT
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 22, 2015 - 07:35pm PT
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M from M....keep them coming!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 22, 2015 - 08:32pm PT
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As they turn up, Jim.
Always have my nose in the air...
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2015 - 07:45am PT
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Just got tuned up on the August installments.
So mouse, photo at the top courtesy of Harriet Anderson: how did you source that picture? Did you meet her in person? Good stuff!
bowline on a burl, ha ha.
The Salathe/Nelson 1948 Christmas card is paydirt.
You the man who be holdin'!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 23, 2015 - 08:02am PT
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Roy, m'boy, I found Harriet's picture using Google Images while I was searching for images using search words like "vintage Yosemite" or something like that.
I guess.
It's been some time, so I'm not certain; and the brain drain is accelerating as I age, incrementally, step by step, slowly turning into stone, but that's my best guess.
"Visit page" prompt led to the blog below.
http://www.athleta.net/
http://www.athleta.net/2011/06/13/yosemite-my-first-trainer/
For this morning's edification,
as I down my meds and eat my edible comestibles,
which are last night's vegetables and victuals,
we are entertained by Pinterest,
in order to maintain and to stoke our climbing interest,
which provided these pictuals.
Who claims this VW bus, gang?
http://www.pinterest.com/jonathantarbox/classic-climbing/
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Jun 23, 2016 - 04:11am PT
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BBA
Social climber
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Jul 23, 2016 - 04:01pm PT
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Here's a couple about time passing...
My grandmother and the Sentinel Dome tree in 1934
My daughter and the dead, but not forgotten, Sentinel Dome tree in 1996
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 23, 2016 - 07:08pm PT
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Wow, Bill. Those are priceless. Thanks.
Looks like an old rope scar around the base of the tree.
The well-known Ansel Adams photo of the Jeffrey pine on Sentinel Dome was made in 1940.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Jul 24, 2016 - 09:19am PT
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Tarbuster, thanks for the thread. Hope this is of interest. My Granddad received this letter years after a 1907 climbing trip to YNP. It explains itself, though abit hard to read due to the quill pen.
"Mr W. T. Black
Dear Sir, considering the years that have passed since the enclosed name & address were written it is doubtful whether this reaches you, and if it does, perhaps not probable that you will remember it. I was on the top of Sentinel Rock yesterday & took this from a tomato can. Your name with the other members of party were on a separate sheet, & was the only written record. It was dated July 11 - 1907
Your truly, F. L. Hohman (sp?)"
I showed the family original to Ken Yager in late 80's and asked,"could this have been the first ascent"? He said "No, has to be Muir, I'll check". A week later he got back that indeed "Muir is credited, but...there was no date or journal entry he could find, something Muir was accustomed to".
Any ST YNP historians can help here? (or any interest?). I've not come up with an actual date when Sentinel Rock itself was first climbed, just individual routes. The HisStory I know was a living one told to me by granddad in the late 50's. It's a douzy, and explains why they made no mention of the ascent back home in Oakland.
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Jul 24, 2016 - 09:43am PT
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The HisStory I know was a living one told to me by granddad in the late 50's. It's a douzy, and explains why they made no mention of the ascent back home in Oakland.
well?
Tree probably died from everyone pissing on it
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 23, 2016 - 09:25pm PT
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Some of you know this beauty quite well.
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Tarbuster
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2016 - 07:23am PT
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Happy Cowboy!
That is pretty darn cool. Possible FA of Sentinel Rock, documented in quill pen no less.
So, what IS the story?
It's a douzy, and explains why they made no mention of the ascent back home in Oakland.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 24, 2016 - 08:56am PT
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Where?
Clue: Ya won't find it in the Yellow Pages or the classified newspaper ads.
Lute.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 24, 2016 - 09:06am PT
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Hoserbation photo.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 24, 2016 - 09:11am PT
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I'm my own grimpeur."He's too trad for me.
He's too trad for me.
I don't want him,
You can have him,
He's to trad for me."
Climb it and they will come in hordes, seeking "classic" routes,
"they" being touristers, dweebs, n00bs and media.
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Tarbuster
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2016 - 10:00am PT
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That Barbara Lilley link is definitely worth a read, and leaves us wanting:
Please stay tuned for the exciting conclusion of this story, where we see Barbara go after difficult northern peaks in the Yukon and Alaska.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 24, 2016 - 10:15am PT
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Thanks, Roy. It's all I could locate on Miss Lilley.
There is this lily, who seems to be more interested in equestrian pursuits
rather than scaling the heights.Campground cutie.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2016 - 10:18am PT
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Barbara Lilley, Lower Cathedral Spire, 1956:
Photo credited to Barbara Lilley
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 24, 2016 - 10:22am PT
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Oh, my! That's our BARBIE DOLL!
Here's KEN, too.I think we pretty much know what Ken has been doing.
THANKS, CHICKENSKINNER!
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Aug 25, 2016 - 10:14am PT
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Keep the photos comin! To follow up from the <quill pen> letter @ Sentinel.
I last heard my grampas tale, from him in 1960. He described travelling from Oakland with a couple friends the summer of 1907. They had just graduated high school and left with 2 burros in tow, intent on visiting the new Yosemite Park. In the little towns they'd pass small change could be made by giving kids rides on the burros...then stealing chickens on their way out. Eventually they got to Yosemite.
Coincidentially I'm reminded, there was a Park then but no National Park Service. Today 8/25/2016 is NPS 100 yr B-day, for better or worse.
The Park then was under Military supervision/control. Well as grampa told, the MP's families were also fond of burro rides and they camped nearby. Not much was mentioned about the climb other than it took them most of the day. On top they scrawled a note left in a tomato can and waved a limb with flag and high school pennant attached for any to see, and Their undoing. On return to valley they were arrested and thrown in the "brig" for traveling outside of a restricted area. Gramps said they were serious but just wanted them to "clam up" on any mention to the news and would let them go if they'd agree. They did and headed home with their burros. He received this letter 8 yrs later.
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stunewberry
Trad climber
Spokane, WA
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Aug 25, 2016 - 10:28am PT
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Might the letter be signed by F.J. Holman? There was a guy name Frank Holman who was a Sierra Club member and was custodian of the LeConte Lodge in the early 1900s. He is referenced in Ansel Adams' biography by Jonathan Spaulding (google Holman and Yosemite for some links).
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 25, 2016 - 06:29pm PT
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There was that Mr. Holman.
Then there was another Mr. Holman, whose story is told in Yosemite's Ink Keepers by Shirley "Call Me Shirley" Sargent,
the eminent, one-letter-at-a-time typist and historian of YNP.
Here is her Doctor Emile J. Holman, of Stanford, who became David Foster Curry's secretary and confidant.
I'm next to certain it's his signature on that letter with Curry Co. letterhead.
I put the pic under a magnifying glass and the first initial, while looking like an 'F', is probably a fancy-Dan cursive 'E.'
It makes sense to me, because...I'll let Shirley tell ya.
Fascinating book, if you are like me.
Here are a few gems from the same book. Shirley had quite a collection of images.
She's a female Bullwinkle, if you want my opinion, in that regard.
She'd howl at the notion she was a Stonemistress!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 25, 2016 - 06:42pm PT
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More from Shirley Sargent's book.
The junk on the photo is Shirley's junk, not mine.
Senor, what is a #, por favor?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 25, 2016 - 06:54pm PT
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And some more, long as the scanner is fired up.
Thank you, anyway, for this marvelous tunnel which has provided me and mi amigos so much fun.
And expedited things. Amen.
Finally, a look at the fella who paints the fire plugs,
one of the little people touristers don't know,
but the climbers get to know over time.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Aug 25, 2016 - 07:00pm PT
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Thanks Stunewberry and M from M! You've helped greatly. Mouse might be on track though. I now see the fancy, cursive "E", it lifts out of the negative space. I've had the letter for ages, given to me by family who knew my own climbing interest. And often wondered about the author, and Camp Curry stationary it was written on. He had done what was likely the subsequent ascent of Sentinel Rock since my granddads scramble in 1907. I like how the letter dates both early ascents, 8 years apart.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 26, 2016 - 05:13pm PT
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Since we are on the south side of the ditch, here's an item from BITD, about the time I first began being interested in rock climbing.
Yosemite Sentinel
(the old YPCC newsletter)
March 1, 1968
FAREWELL
The Firefall, a fancy of James McCauley’s that caught on and was popular for almost a hundred years,
died Thursday, January 25, in a blazing farewell.
It was a dandy Firefall, fat and long and it ended with an exceptionally brilliant spurt,
the embers lighting the cliff as they floated slowly downward.
When the afterglow had burned out, the cliff was inky dark, and we surmise, it’s to stay that way.
There weren’t many people around to watch.
Maybe fifty.
Hardly any congestion at all.
1965 Ford Mustang, V-8, 4-speed, excellent condition.
33,000 miles. $1700. Call Stew Branson, 372-4778.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Sep 11, 2016 - 12:02pm PT
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Came across this on rivethead.com
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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A tour of the waterfalls of Yosemite National Park in California in the 1950s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw69JbtaGlU
Full screen is more fun.
Some elegant footage. Careful music choices by Kickett & Chillie.
And Beethoven.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 20, 2016 - 08:39am PT
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http://climbingzine.com/blog/page/8/
To Audrey and the Muppet:
I'm still enjoying Yosemite In the Fifties a year later. This is a wonderful book for a gift...it's still giving me pleasure.
Thank you both!
Christmas cheers!
And thank you, Dean and Largo, too!
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 20, 2016 - 12:32pm PT
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About 20 years ago, the Whyte Museum, Banff, had a one-time offer to sell a few black & white prints made from the original glass negatives of the Canadian photographer Byron Harmon (1876-1942). I took advantage of that offer and obtained a 24-inch print of the Yoho Glacier (original photo dated 1914).
Modern print from a 100+ year old glass negative
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Are we sure this is Werner? Somehow it does not look like him...
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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^^^^^^^^^^^ Agreed.
I meant to write that the background is no view you would ever see from Watkins!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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OMG! That's not Werner. That's Doc Watkins on Mt. Whitney! I just musta been ripped.
Or worse, blind.
[Click to View YouTube Video]Maybe just confused?
THIS IS THE SECOND TO LAST SINGLE UNDER THE COLLECTORS' NAME. IN THE STATES IT WAS ISSUED UNDER CHILLIWACK ON THE PARROT(350) LABEL WITH THE A SIDE CHAIN TRAIN AND BEEN BLIND AS THE B SIDE. IN CANADA PARROT 350 ISSUED CHAIN TRAIN AND OSAKA AS THE FLIP. NOT TO CONFUSE THE ISSUE , SO TO SPEAK, BUT THE SINGLE HERE IS ON LONDON I MUST HAVE BEEN BLIND/THE BEGINNING ISSUED IN CANADA ONLY UNLESS IT WAS RELEASED IN ONTARIO, CA, A DIFFERENT PLACE ENTIRELY LIKE HIBERNIA HAPPY NEW YEAR PATRICK
DO YOU REALLY THINK I WOULD DO YOU WRONG?
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2017 - 07:45pm PT
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Meet you at the Ranger's Club for a spliff and a highball!
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Jan 15, 2017 - 09:12pm PT
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jan 15, 2017 - 10:16pm PT
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I, I have been looking for that rappelling postcard for years and years. I first saw one in the sixties at one of the village shops or YL.
Now I can rest.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Jan 16, 2017 - 03:19pm PT
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Jan 19, 2017 - 07:31pm PT
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*Fake News Alert*
Bracebridge Dinner 1933
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
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Jan 20, 2017 - 06:31am PT
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That's the right side of the folly's girls, BIOTCH.
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stonefly
Social climber
Alameda, California
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Jan 20, 2017 - 05:32pm PT
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Mt Lyell first ascent party 1936
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
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Jan 21, 2017 - 08:55am PT
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climber bob
Social climber
maine
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[photo[photo[photoid=489023]id=489022]id=489021]
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Climber Bob! Good stuff!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Feb 14, 2017 - 05:18am PT
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Next to the reassembled vintage Indian.
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Tarbuster
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2017 - 04:52pm PT
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Very nice run of posters there Matt!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 14, 2017 - 05:27pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]Relatively unspoiled footage here.
In '36 the campers were limited to one month's stay. Hmph!!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2017 - 06:06pm PT
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Nice find, Brian!
Royal Robbins was one year old when that short film was made.
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john hansen
climber
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Apr 14, 2017 - 08:37pm PT
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Hey Mouse , that was great, thanks.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 16, 2017 - 02:17pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
Very fine old autos, here, in the heyday of auto tourism following the opening of the All-Weather Highway, the 140.
Great view of Illillouette Falls at 7:00 minutes.
Roy, these antique videos keep popping up "automatically" on my Youtube front page,
likely because I've searched for Yosemite vintage stuff so much.
It makes it so much easier.
The last one and this one are two of these that really appealed to me.
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mouse from merced
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Apr 16, 2017 - 04:27pm PT
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mouse from merced
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SF Chronicle photos.
Shown here is Colonel C.G. Thomson, superintendent of Yosemite National Park,
unveiling the bronze plaque in memory of Stephen T. Mather,
organizer and first director of the National Park Service,
at ceremonies held at Happy Isles in Yosemite Valley on July 4, 1932.
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mouse from merced
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KODAK moment.
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mouse from merced
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I trust you know that Getty was a closet Trustafarian.
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mouse from merced
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Jul 12, 2017 - 03:02pm PT
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Pretty sure the background is Sunnyside Bench and Lower Falls.
Seems to be taken from the old Yosemite Village site on the south side of the river.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 12, 2017 - 07:47pm PT
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Friend of mine recently acquired this from his great aunt.
Just have the one page presently.
19th century!
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mouse from merced
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Jul 13, 2017 - 12:04am PT
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Your friend has a real find. The Foley publication was a staple, apparently. There were probably thousands sold over the years.
All the ones I'm seeing on the web are from the early 1900s. All were priced at a half dollar.And a nice shot of the page, too. Thank you, Roy.
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mouse from merced
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Jul 15, 2017 - 05:27am PT
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Putting the incline together for the Portland cement company mine, Merced River canyon. No date.
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mouse from merced
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Jul 22, 2017 - 01:08am PT
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Way Kay.
She probably dated.
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i-b-goB
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Wise Acres
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Jul 22, 2017 - 07:19am PT
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PhilG
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The Circuit, Tonasket WA
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Jul 22, 2017 - 08:24am PT
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That last picture is great. I can smell the canvas of the tents!
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mouse from merced
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Jul 22, 2017 - 09:02am PT
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This is not posted on ST anywhere else that I can find. Mather is one of the white hats, as they say.
[Click to View YouTube Video]The story is told that one day in 1915 Stephen Mather walked into the office of [Interior] Secretary Lane and expressed indignation over the way things were run in Sequoia and Yosemite.
"Steve," said Lane, "if you don't like the way those parks are run, you can run them yourself."
"Mr. Secretary, I accept the job," was Mather's rejoinder.
The genial Secretary of the Interior showed him into a little office and said, "There's your desk, Steve; now go to work." With that Lane went out and closed the door, but presently opened it and said, "By the way, Steve, I forgot to ask what your politics are."
With such brief preliminaries did Stephen T. Mather assume director ship of the national parks. He served through the presidential administrations of Wilson, Harding, and Coolidge, but the matter of his politics was never inquired into by any party.
Stephen Mather was born on the Fourth of July, 1867, in San Francisco.
[And so, by the way, Happy Birthday, old man!]
His ancestry traces back to Richard Mather, a Massachussetts clergyman of the days of the Pilgrim Fathers. Stephen T. Mather was not a scion of wealth. As a young man, he made his way through college by selling books. He graduated from the University of California in 1887 and for several years was a newspaper reporter. Thereafter, he entered the employ of the Pacific Coast Borax Company and was identified with the trade name, "Twenty Mule Team Borax," that became well known around the world.
For ten years he engaged in the production of profits for his employers and then organized his own company. It was in borax that he built up his business success and accumulated the fortune which "he later shared so generously with the nation through his investments in scenic beauty from which the people received the dividends."
--Source, "One Hundred Years in Yosemite" by Carl Parcher Russell, Ch. 11
http://www.yosemite.ca.us/library/one_hundred_years_in_yosemite/one_hundred_years_in_yosemite.pdf
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mouse from merced
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Oct 26, 2017 - 04:26am PT
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2017 - 09:51am PT
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Good call on the Mather story, Sir Mouse!
I thought there was something in Yosemite named after him.
A point of interest perhaps?
Then there's this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Mather_(Alaska);
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Go-B, I like the ice-skating picture just up thread!
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mouse from merced
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Oct 26, 2017 - 10:12am PT
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Tarbuster, there's Camp Mather just outside the park boundary, fun place for families. It originated as part of the Hetch Hetchy project, with Birch Lake as a log pond for the mill used to produce lumber for O'Shauhnessy Dam.
The Rim fire burned the surrounding forest but the firefighters saved the camp.
They used to hold the Strawberry Bluegrass Festival here years back.
Evergreen Lodge was the cool local bar back in the early eighties, too, with the occasional band once in a while every so often sometimes.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2017 - 10:20am PT
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10 four, site of the Strawberry Bluegrass!
Who among us cannot relate to that guy sitting in the chair under the sun on the porch!
What a nice place to have a wee dram. Or a pipe load. Or the company of a fair lass and a ... Oh nevermind.
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throwpie
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Berkeley
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Oct 26, 2017 - 03:24pm PT
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Badger Pass and my mom during the war
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throwpie
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Berkeley
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Oct 26, 2017 - 03:26pm PT
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mom again
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2017 - 04:09pm PT
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Badger Pass and my mom during the war
I gather that phrase, the war still means World War II?
Those are some nice vintage shots. Looks like some happy days for mom!
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throwpie
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Berkeley
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Oct 26, 2017 - 04:21pm PT
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World War II yes. My dad was a flight instructor at Merced field, now Castle. He was an officer so a badger pass weekend was something he could get away with. I would imagine that was quite a perk during the war.
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throwpie
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Berkeley
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Oct 26, 2017 - 04:30pm PT
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throwpie
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Oct 26, 2017 - 04:45pm PT
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Not the 30s but this is from maybe 1952. I was a dirty feral campground child for much of my youth. Well, most of my life
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throwpie
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Berkeley
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Oct 26, 2017 - 04:47pm PT
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Giddyup
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throwpie
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Berkeley
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Oct 26, 2017 - 05:06pm PT
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Dad in El Portal
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justthemaid
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Jim Henson's Basement
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Oct 31, 2017 - 07:36am PT
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Anyone know who these two ladies are? I've always been curious. I'm guessing no sticky rubber on those heels. I have it labeled "Mirriam" but have no memory of where I got the pic.
Just discovered Anne Brigmans photography. Pretty bold for a turn-of-the-century woman to be exploring the Sierra Nevada and shooting nudes.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2017 - 08:01am PT
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JTM!
Excellent offerings.
Will be interesting to see if anyone can ID that first shot.
Those two really are pulling some full-fledged moves!
And the second one, by Anne Brigman, (with all due respect to Dean) ... that is a stone nude for the ages.
Two more Brigman photos:
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mouse from merced
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Oct 31, 2017 - 10:48am PT
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Skip, the only Mirriam the memory banks yield is Miriam O. Underhill, famous for her "manless climbing."
Pix of her are all of her in men's clothing, however. Mysterious ladies, there. Maybe from an article on MOU? I can't find it.
Tarbuster, these classically-posed shots are fine...if you don't have
THE REAL THING!
SO WHY NOT GET IT?
http://www.stonenudes.com/
THEN YOU'LL HAVE IT.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2017 - 04:01pm PT
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Found it!
Lucy Smith and Pauline Ranken climbing the Salisbury Crags in 1908.[1]
The Ladies' Scottish Climbing Club was founded by Jane Inglis Clark, her daughter Mabel, and Lucy Smith at a boulder near Lix Toll, Perthshire in 1908. It now has about 120 members and is the oldest active climbing club exclusively for women. The club has sent numerous expeditions abroad and made the first all-woman climb of a major peak in the Himalayas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladies'_Scottish_Climbing_Club
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mouse from merced
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Oct 31, 2017 - 04:13pm PT
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Warbler
*you be Holdin' any WAY Old Imagery?*
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i-b-goB
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Oct 31, 2017 - 07:31pm PT
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2017 - 01:51pm PT
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Good ones, GO-B!
That first shot with the Indians almost looks like a diorama.
Now the second, with the Indian motorcycle, I'm thinking the young woman doesn't look so psyched.
Really, did he make her ride on that book rack over the rear tire?
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mouse from merced
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Nice try at analysis, Roy.
This is not strictly a motorcyclist's camp, I'll bet.
How to carry wooden folding chairs on a bike has always been something with which riders had to deal up until the introduction of strong metal tubing.
And there is a lot of canvas strung up around that site. There must have been a support car tagging along. Or maybe it's the other way round.
Well, this conjecturing is as useless as climbing Fitzroy, so...
As for the first shot, of course it's a diorama. It's a miniature one that was installed in the Yosemite Museum when it first opened. It was in the "Indian Room," it was that long ago.
And that is most definitely a Thor motorcycle (looks like 1918), not an Indian, so that dates it pretty well.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2017 - 05:16pm PT
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Good points, Mouse Man!
And plus, whatever the cause for her boredom or annoyance w/ the motorcycle shtick, we can rest assured that by now, she's well over it!
We work well together. Maybe should consider an alliance?
I propose the Mutt and Jeff Private Detective Agency.
We start out small, see: lost pencils, misplaced syllables, runaway candy wrappers ...
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mouse from merced
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Alphonse and Gaston seems more apropos for a climbing forum.
Apres vous, monsieur.
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justthemaid
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Jim Henson's Basement
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Wow Tar- you da' detiective!
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2017 - 09:08pm PT
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Not really, JTM, and Mouse is on to me.
Smoke, mirrors, and a Google images search!
(It sure is a fun & inspiring photo!)
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Mom
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So Cal
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There are not words to describe these priceless images of the past. The rocks and formations so very familiar to all of us speak of the millions of years these vistas have been viewed by men in their journey thru the 'eternities'.
Prentice Ritter: We're all travelers in this world - from sweet grass to the packin' house - birth till death - we travel between the eternities.
Long be here Yosemite!
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Scole
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Zapopan
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Nov 15, 2017 - 08:24am PT
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mouse from merced
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Alphonse, I've come across a whole box of gum erasers from @ 1920. What to do with them now is my problem.
--Gaston
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mouse from merced
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Postcard.Bears a remarkable resemblance to Yosemite Valley, but it's further south--S Fork Kings River.
Dunderberg Peak was formerly called Castle Peak.
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mouse from merced
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Jan 16, 2018 - 07:52pm PT
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mouse from merced
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Now that Yosemite has sunken to the level of national disgracery,
let us turn our faces from its disgraces and venture to some European places.
From a page set up by Fotohaus Heimhuber, purveyor of vintage images.
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mouse from merced
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And these came via Pinterest, except for the last two.
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mouse from merced
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And back to Yosemite.
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aspendougy
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Feb 10, 2018 - 02:39pm PT
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Tarbuster, that photo from 1908 of the two Scottish ladies is amazing!!
The footwear, the way she is reaching, and also the technique, looks like they were just roped together, no anchors or belay........
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2018 - 05:31pm PT
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Yes, aspendougy, that's one of the most inspiring vintage climbing photographs going: it's almost surreal how well sorted out those women look.
Those Heimhuber images Mouse laid down are also very cool.
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mouse from merced
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Mar 10, 2018 - 02:18am PT
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guido
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BBA's mom and gang on approach to Half Dome cables in Aug 1928, No one else on the cables.
BBA, the son on the cables May 1960 and no one else on the cables. Well almost no one else.
The final photo is a group on the cables 1920.
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mouse from merced
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Oct 12, 2018 - 02:29pm PT
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mouse from merced
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Oct 12, 2018 - 02:53pm PT
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1935 NPS guidebook.
I know, she looks like a guy, huh.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2018 - 03:17pm PT
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har har!
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clode
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Oct 12, 2018 - 03:25pm PT
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Ledge Rat, that's a great stereograph! As a geologist trained to use the naked eye to view stereographs, I had no problem seeing the 3-D perception.
Any idea who took the photos?
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mouse from merced
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Nov 13, 2018 - 08:30pm PT
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2018 - 09:10am PT
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BaggerAss ski haus. Good one! I hadn't heard that before.
Do we have more wordplay for Badger Pass?
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stunewberry
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Dec 12, 2018 - 04:54pm PT
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Video taken in 1927 by Virginia Best Adams of Ansel and his crew when he made his iconic "Monolith - the face of Half Dome" Photograph. Awesome climbing technique, too.
If the link breaks, just google Ansel Adams Diving board video
https://vimeo.com/303153816
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2018 - 05:33pm PT
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Thank you, stunewberry: that was wonderful!
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mouse from merced
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Dec 23, 2018 - 02:04am PT
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I know this is suppost ta be about Yosemite, but WTH. Mike Sherrick posed at Tahquitz Rock with some of the best rock climbers of the day.
L to R: Unidentified man, Mike Sherrick, Yvon Chouinard (plaid shirt), Arkel Erb (alpine hat), unidentified man, Tom Frost.
-Photo from Ellen & Charles Wilts Collection, Angeles Chapter Archives.
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mouse from merced
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Dec 23, 2018 - 02:07am PT
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Some cutting edge stuff for the day.-Photo by Niles Werner, Barbara Lilley Collection, Angeles Chapter Archives.
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mouse from merced
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Dec 23, 2018 - 02:16am PT
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Not exclusively SoCal.Ellen and Charles Wilts on summit of Mt. Lyell, Yosemite National Park, August 1947.
-Photo from Ellen & Charles Wilts Collection, Angeles Chapter Archives.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2018 - 04:50pm PT
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Hey, since the Yosemite decimal system was invented at Tahquitz,
I think we can make allowances for content here, yo!
I had a hell of a time, Mouse, squaring that historical image of Toe Jam in the above B & W.
But here it is, Frank Hoover's hands are proximal to the baguette feature in the horizontal crack to the left of the climber in this picture:
What confused me is that most people climb Toe Jam via the start of a route called Spider.
Of course in the B & W, Frank is climbing it in the traditional way as chronicled in Vogel's guidebook, as opposed to the way it is most often shown here on Mountain Project.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2018 - 10:08am PT
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Brian,
I noticed in another thread that you mentioned your health might be failing in a circling the drain sort of way.
Though it's the least of it, I have to say I am really going to miss your contributions to this thread when you are gone, whether that eventuality is in the near or far future. I hope it is the latter!
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mouse from merced
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Dec 25, 2018 - 06:00pm PT
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Thank you, Siegfried. I'll tell Roy. They'll both feel better.
Way better, in fact, and I think I'm qualified to speak for them.
Sho' nuff, it's been fun and I hope we both have a long life.
History has a way of expanding as we get older, n'est-ce pas?
Old images are like popsickles, frozen for who knows how long but still good, able to bring a smile or even a smirk.
Thanks for starting this and so many other worthwhile threads.
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i-b-goB
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Feb 15, 2019 - 04:02pm PT
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Nice match up Roy, mouse 5.7 would be a challenge in canvas tennies!
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throwpie
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Feb 15, 2019 - 04:37pm PT
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Badger Flats was always the go to name Tarbuster
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BBA
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Feb 16, 2019 - 09:34pm PT
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Mouse's photo from Dec 23 2018 has two unidentified's - they are Harry Daley on the left and "The Dolt" next to Tom Frost. Both also part of the Yosemite story.
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mouse from merced
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Feb 16, 2019 - 09:40pm PT
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I hadn't a clue, Bill. So thanks for the clarification, update, whatever.
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mouse from merced
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Feb 20, 2019 - 10:28am PT
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Splitter. Finally broke apart into three pieces. RIP...Way older than '31. Likely the aught-tens.
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mouse from merced
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I see your stringent Rule 1931 has been modified. Very good judgement, Roy.
HOT DANG! I caught the reception (haha) tonight to open the museum's exhibit, "Originals of Yosemite."
A nice assortment of old artifacts and photographs based on Yosemite's history, it will be in place thru June 9. It's worth a stop.
Hours are Wednesday thru Sunday, 1-4pm.
Merced County Historical Society is the go-to name of internet record.
The photographers and some painters you probably know of are represented, and a couple I'd not heard of, Cohen and Boysen, namely.
If no attribution mentioned, then I don't know it or it's unknown or something else.
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stonefly
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Mar 12, 2019 - 04:26pm PT
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Pleeeze, that's Stonefly, not sandfly!
Same site rephotographed:
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mouse from merced
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Mar 12, 2019 - 06:38pm PT
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*burp*
Dude, so sorry!
How did you come by the photo? Curious...
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stonefly
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Mar 12, 2019 - 06:54pm PT
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Just another shot from the misplaced and nearly lost photo collection of Lewis Clark documented here: http://www.thehighsierra.org
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mouse from merced
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Mar 12, 2019 - 07:17pm PT
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What a collection! Thanks for that link. Super!
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originalpmac
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Mar 17, 2019 - 10:25pm PT
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From 1870s I believe. Saw it on display at the Crocker art museum in Sacramento today.
The painting is enormous, 6'x8' maybe. El Cap meadow was a forest back then.
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mouse from merced
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Mar 18, 2019 - 04:34am PT
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Misleading as heck, that painting is NOT a true depicticon of what the Ditch looked like in the 19th century.
The valley floor was more open, with oak trees abounding, not pines, which is now the case, though they are dying off from disease.
I don't know if that's a Tahomas Hill or a Bierstadt at the Crocker, but it's romanticized all to heck, a routine practice of painters in the Victorian period.
Nice photo of it. I haven't been to the old Crocker since the fifties and a newer museum has been built, I have learned.
"Need to check it out, self."
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originalpmac
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Timbers of Fennario
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Mar 18, 2019 - 12:20pm PT
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It is a Hill painting and thanks for the insight. Apparently he painted that piece in Boston, years after a trip there.
Definitely worth checking out the Crocker. We took our 11 month boy there, was an awesome family outing.
He here a smaller, different painting with a distorted view of El Cap. Looks like the artist added another Nose to it.
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stonefly
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mouse from merced
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Nice find!^^^
Accession number and validation, too!
Sure looks like WH's profile on the right.
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2019 - 02:31pm PT
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Biplanes over Liberty Cap: there's a sight you don't see every day!
I wonder if those are twin engine? Or triple? Lots of wingspan. Flying a pretty tight formation as well.
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mouse from merced
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Hey, Roy. I looked into the types available in the Army's stable of multi-engine bi-planes. This looks like the ones pictured. Long wingspan, 3 engines. No model numbers or mfrs, just the photo. Best I can do.I'm probably dead wrong, but then I'm not an aviation buff.
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