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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 25, 2006 - 12:15am PT
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Let's see some old J-Tree bouldering shots! Russ dig deep baby! I know you got some gems....jb
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 25, 2006 - 12:18am PT
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Highball
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 25, 2006 - 12:33am PT
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What photo editing software are you using John?
Use the resizing option.
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 25, 2006 - 12:41am PT
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You need something that does it on your machine before you deal with photobucket.
I use Hypersnap 6
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 25, 2006 - 12:42am PT
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babyapes!
neet
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Feb 25, 2006 - 12:46am PT
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whoo john, i like it the way it is, thanxs.
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Ouch!
climber
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Feb 25, 2006 - 12:50am PT
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That climber is one bold dude. That angle gives me the Jimmy leg.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2006 - 12:58am PT
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Cashner took that photo! That's when I was staying in a halfway house for stealing a toothbrush from Yosemite Lodge Giftshop. Got to go climbing everyday however - told 'em I was working! ha ha, jb
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
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Feb 25, 2006 - 01:02am PT
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a toothbrush!?!?!?!?!
wow, and I thought the rangers were bad lately.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
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Feb 25, 2006 - 01:02am PT
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how about like 2 years ago, old skool?
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Ouch!
climber
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Feb 25, 2006 - 01:05am PT
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That's pretty harsh. Putting a guy in a halfway house for attempted oral hygiene.
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Mountain Man
Trad climber
Outer space
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Feb 25, 2006 - 01:16am PT
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Maybe it was for something truly heinous, like scrubbing the rock of lichen and crud..
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2006 - 01:18am PT
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Mungeclimber - near Twentynine palms entrance??? jb
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Feb 25, 2006 - 01:21am PT
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john, i totaly remember that toothbrush. it was the only time you ever got in trouble.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2006 - 01:29am PT
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wonder - sort of...I had to clean fire pits for "mooning" a security guard (Larry?) in front of the cafeteria (women and children were present).
Here's another fun Josh boulder!
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Feb 25, 2006 - 01:57am PT
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sh.... that's the biggest boulder ive seen.
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Ouch!
climber
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Feb 25, 2006 - 01:58am PT
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Jeez! How big do those things have to be to no longer be called boulders?
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aldude
climber
Monument Manor
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Feb 25, 2006 - 02:59am PT
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Munge - Indian Cove over in the Rattlesnake Wash. Cool Feldspar knobs ala Tuolumne.
John - whatta ya listening to?
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Dusty
Trad climber
up & down highway 99
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Feb 25, 2006 - 03:14am PT
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john, honey, you're scaring the kids...
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
boulder, co
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Feb 25, 2006 - 11:25am PT
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John...your idea of bouldering is a little different than most climbers.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2006 - 12:11pm PT
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al dude - "Living in America" - James Brown! huhhhhn, I feel (felt) goood!
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Jobee
Social climber
El Portal
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Feb 25, 2006 - 12:27pm PT
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Excellent visuals johnny b.!
Good ole days to be sure..'how bout them white tights and green Nijas...smokin style..''''Bring it on home..bring it on home''''
Are you crankin like that these days? Yikes!
jow
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2006 - 12:38pm PT
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Jo - No - but I do have a powered wheelchair and a really cool cane...ha, jb
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2006 - 01:06pm PT
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Yet another fun Josh boulder problem...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 25, 2006 - 01:17pm PT
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ok, i think we got your point, bachar. heh.
now, for all a you mortals out there....
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 25, 2006 - 01:56pm PT
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JB
We like those tall shots- las one hot rocks perhaps
bvb
Let's see the hillbilly levis with plaid cuffs and wing tip edging demons
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Ouch!
climber
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Feb 25, 2006 - 02:07pm PT
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Don't mean any disrespect here but JB must have cat genes on both sides of the family. Total of 18 lives. :-))
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marty(r)
climber
beneath the valley of ultravegans
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Feb 25, 2006 - 03:17pm PT
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JB,
That last one of you is the Father Figure, right? I remember the day that came out in Climbing. I was on my way out to Roubidoux with a fresh pair of Kamet Joshua Trees or Carbon Fiber Sprints (something like that) and we yacked the whole way through the Inland Empire (second only to the Holy Roman) talking about that photo. Totally rad and inspiring. Another memory was a time--'88 or '89--running into you coming out of Real Hidden Valley, alone except for a huge boom box, blasting NWA's "Straight Outta Compton"! That set the tone for the rest of my afternoon.
Can someone scan and post the shot of Yabo on Planet X? I don't have a scanner, but that's beyond classic. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a near life sized print of it hanging in the window of some West LA photo gallery?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Feb 25, 2006 - 03:34pm PT
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JB-
"Jo - No - but I do have a powered wheelchair and a really cool cane...ha, jb"
Say it isn't so. I can't imagine that, even if I know you're kidding. Hey, if Becky is still going well into his 80s and Donini is still going strong well into his 60s(?) we all should be too. Inspiration. NGU.
About fashion, I bumped into you with my friends and you were doing a climb on Di-lithium (sp?) Crystal in ORG a long while back. You were sporting a fashion from let's say, I don't know - India maybe? It was wrapped all-round near the waist and upper legs and it all kind of looked like, well ok I don't want to say what it looked like. I'm sure it was very comfortable though. Got any images of that fashion statement?
I think MG might like to see that.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2006 - 07:06pm PT
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Yeah I got a whole bunch o' weird stuff guys and gals. Don't know if my scanner does slides yet...I'll give it a go and see what happens! Thanks for the compliments...
bvb
Intersection Boulder, center route, F9 in the Wolfe book right?
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Feb 25, 2006 - 07:27pm PT
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Johnny B.
Great shots! I remember reading that you used to have to ice your forearms [elbows] because of your tendonitis. Is that still a problem? How are your arms these days? Can you still crank [as] hard?
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2006 - 08:03pm PT
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Yeah I can still "climb" a little...just got back from the Gorge. Nice down there today by the way. Soloed DWP, 11c...not like the old days but felt pretty good!
My scanner doesn't do slides, bummer, only "reflective art"....oh well
Cheers all! jb
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eddie7
Trad climber
London, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Feb 25, 2006 - 08:18pm PT
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11c...yikes.
makes my hands hurt (and sweat).
cheers.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 25, 2006 - 08:38pm PT
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bvb
Intersection Boulder, center route, F9 in the Wolfe book right?
roger that, jb. i think it's "V3" in the miramontes guide. all slick and greasy and worn-out now...i think it was easier in eb's!
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Feb 25, 2006 - 09:49pm PT
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john, a couple months ago when i went down to the apple store and got my new G5, they also sold me a Epson stylus CX7800. it scans negatives and everything. $150 & i got a $30 rebate. i just need to get out of the chat rooms and figure out how to use it.
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Feb 25, 2006 - 09:53pm PT
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ps, do you believe how much money we lived on back in the day?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
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Feb 25, 2006 - 10:11pm PT
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JB, aldude got it right. Indian Cove- Rattlesnake Wash. Very cool boulder. But I know what yer thinking. I hear only rumors and tell only lies.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 26, 2006 - 09:39am PT
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bullwinkle photo
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 26, 2006 - 09:46am PT
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hmm, seems dean's pics got into a few hands...
Yabo, Fisticuffs
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Jobee
Social climber
El Portal
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Feb 26, 2006 - 11:40am PT
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Classic images Tarbuster..soooo good.. cheers!
j.b hmmm 11.c solo in the gorge..you still got it mister.. ;)
jow
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2006 - 09:37pm PT
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Tarbuster - Wow! Nice B&W pics!!
Green PA's - now those were some shoes baby...edged like a pair of bricks!
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 26, 2006 - 09:51pm PT
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Yeah, but JB, Dig:
If you'd been into those way out golf-pro-fashion rigs, both pants and shoes, such as posted on the Dear Gramicc thread, we could've avoided tom follery of the green PA kind.
And, gee, would "Old School JT Bouldering" really be proper without some Zippy the Pinhead action to dile us in? Heh? at least for intermission?
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2006 - 10:58pm PT
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Russ has the Zippy comic stuff - pretty scandalous for the Taco. Maybe there's some non-parental guidance stuff...Russ?
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 26, 2006 - 11:01pm PT
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what about just the original comics?
laundry is a stern task master? and such-
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2006 - 11:06pm PT
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Are we having fun yet?
Zippy rules....jb
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
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Feb 26, 2006 - 11:14pm PT
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tar, nice.
everyone else,
more pics less talk
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 26, 2006 - 11:22pm PT
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
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Feb 26, 2006 - 11:44pm PT
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more old skool josh- sometime in the 80s
back when it was cool to drink MGD
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 27, 2006 - 12:03am PT
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Oh sh_it the Zippy the pinhead stuff from Russ.
It would put this board into XXX rated or worst. Middendorff has them also.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 27, 2006 - 12:54am PT
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don't go there maaan...
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2006 - 12:59am PT
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mungeclimber - that guy looks real familiar...man, i'm getting old...
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 27, 2006 - 01:01am PT
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bullwinkle fotos
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 27, 2006 - 01:07am PT
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Yikes! looky at that swami, and no quick draw.
Roy you got any hair left on your head?
:-)
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2006 - 01:07am PT
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Found this...somewhere...look familiar?
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2006 - 01:12am PT
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The National Enquirer march 22, 1982! (sorry about scan clipage)....jb
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 27, 2006 - 01:17am PT
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"uber-soled shoes ..... and plenty of guts"
There will be plenty of "guts" for sure if one slips off.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2006 - 02:04am PT
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Walleye - Yeah...Adidas pants and some funky German steroid pants in the chopped photo...
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 27, 2006 - 02:05am PT
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Werner,
"Roy you got any hair left on your head?"
Ya, kinda, but that totally bald bit where a skylight would be really weirds me out when I touch it!
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2006 - 02:46am PT
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Russ daddy dropping some knowledge....
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Feb 27, 2006 - 03:08am PT
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OMG, now thats the Russ i remember. @ this mo im living in the past. But i think he's on a road trip. we havent heard from him lately.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 27, 2006 - 10:20am PT
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'reppin more bullwinkle fotos here
Man Yano, its amazing you'all never popped off anything back in the day.
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thedogfather
Trad climber
Midwest
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Feb 27, 2006 - 11:39am PT
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Pic of an old poster I have that is labeled: Bouldering Joshua Tree Don't know the year or the climber but I am sure some of you do.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
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Feb 27, 2006 - 12:11pm PT
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"mungeclimber - that guy looks real familiar...man, i'm getting old..."
Aye, possibly, very briefly. Think Los Angeles Jazz/Blues club several years back. Your brother was playing a gig. A chinese guy with glasses, big guy, starts talkin to you about climbing. I roll out of the pisser somewhat buzzin. That's us aka MGD man.
I'm out of bouldering in josh pics.
Where's beev? post em yo!
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2006 - 12:40pm PT
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B.B. King's, Harvel's, ... can't place that memory...damn, I AM old!
Tarbuster - "The Central Scrutinizer", 5.12a/b, no pad in sight! Wow! I think those are the only photos I've ever seen of that problem.
Dogfather - never saw that poster! "White Rastafarian", 5.11d, no pad. Can't tell who the climber is though...
Thanks guys... sick stuff!
I can't find the Beaver shot in a magazine yet...I'll keep looking. Can't scan slides yet....otherwise it'd be no problem! cheers, jb
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2006 - 01:34pm PT
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Beaver shot in an old Mammut catalog!
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Russ Walling
Social climber
I have a giant ASS™™
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Feb 27, 2006 - 01:39pm PT
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Only got a minute... out of town, busy all the rest.... GOOD STUFF SO FAR!!!!
here is a couple that were floating around on the desktop:
We all tried to boulder this out for about a year... now has 3? bolts? Crux at top, probably 12b/c. This next photo was in a BD catalog of this thing with me whipping off the top, no pad of course... nice! I'll look for it.. Mari Gingery took the photo. Shockley is the dude off to the left in his trademark rugby shirt.
Some guys are just overtrained.... Buttfukelmann at his peak on the Gunsmoke.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
I have a giant ASS™™
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Feb 27, 2006 - 01:43pm PT
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hahahaha! Supertopo nasty word filter took out my image name! I'll rename it. this is the overtrained thingy.
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Feb 27, 2006 - 01:51pm PT
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geez, check that potato above his lat. The Statue in action.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2006 - 01:51pm PT
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The Saturn boulder!!! wow, what a phucking classic that was. hard time going for it on that one...BOLTS??? somebody bolted that thing?? I can't believe it - probably one of the most classic highball testpieces in the Monument!!!
Why couldn't they just use their maxi-pad thingies?
Bruckleman (sp?) looking buff?
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Russ Walling
Social climber
I have a giant ASS™™
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Feb 27, 2006 - 01:54pm PT
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Yeah... some gay guys called Russ, Roy, and Doug bolted it.... on lead though.... The top is super balancy and has a grim slab topout... the falls are really nice swingers where ya clang into the underside of the dike. Lets go chop it!!!
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Feb 27, 2006 - 01:58pm PT
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I was there when you were flinging off that rig Russ.
So, how's the back these days??
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2006 - 02:29pm PT
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On sight, on the lead! Much props in that case! That thing was pretty Phucking far off the turf. It's like the only way up the boulder too as I remember - classic photos -especially the peeler one...jb
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Russ Walling
Social climber
I have a giant ASS™™
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Feb 27, 2006 - 02:31pm PT
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from a quick web search:
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Russ Walling
Social climber
I have a giant ASS™™
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Feb 27, 2006 - 02:35pm PT
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Yeah man.. the Saturn rig is the only way up... The backside has a really hard thing that might go at 15.e. Cool area. Me you and AlDude ought to go out there and crack it off....
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
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Feb 27, 2006 - 02:45pm PT
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not before you send me my goodies ;)
check yer email Russ.
/me jealous... road trippin grumble grumble
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 27, 2006 - 02:49pm PT
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Holy sh_it Russ
You came off that Saturn boulder from the top to the deck and with no pad.
You didn't get hurt?
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Russ Walling
Social climber
I have a giant ASS™™
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Feb 27, 2006 - 02:56pm PT
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Werner,
We were hard back then.... came off probably 25 times... maybe more... not right off the top, but way out there. Pads?? Not invented yet. If the thing was about another 15ft taller, then I guess a pad would be in order for todays soft modern climbers.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2006 - 04:40pm PT
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Russ!
Spiderline, Beaver, (P) hat... all on the web. Imagine that? cool. I'm jetting down tonite by the way...bouldering Tuesday! see ya soon....jb
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 27, 2006 - 05:11pm PT
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JB,
Al Roberts (the voice of the crags) and I were schleppin' around HVC, JT mid week, winter '82. You were going through your routine: spider line, and etc, etc.
You were journaling, I asked what about, you said you were listing the routes covered in your circuit for the day, so you could look at it in later years...
'Got any pages handy?
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 27, 2006 - 06:41pm PT
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The man with the animal nickname
or just "Mussy"
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 27, 2006 - 11:36pm PT
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pigpen, '84
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 27, 2006 - 11:40pm PT
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this is the best place to be in josh as the sun is setting....
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aldude
climber
Monument Manor
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Feb 28, 2006 - 12:11am PT
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Yo Russ,
Dude that picture of you looks like a polish female shotputter! JBs' in the house - hollaback
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Russ Walling
Social climber
I have a giant ASS™™
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Feb 28, 2006 - 05:17pm PT
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Barry Melton: Seems like a reach... but I'll go with it.
Jaybro says the guy from Dr. Who:
a cross between CarrotTop and Christopher Walken:
or as sad as it may seem, more than once I've been told I look like Slim Pickens!!! WTF!!
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Russ Walling
Social climber
I have a giant ASS™™
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Feb 28, 2006 - 06:30pm PT
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check out this young pup.... Larry Loads photo I think...
And here is one you might have missed TarDaddy... from a quiz a few weeks ago:
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Jobee
Social climber
El Portal
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Feb 28, 2006 - 07:34pm PT
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I can't stand much more of this...rotf...so glad I witnessed some of this live...best show i've seen in a hundred years!
Swooooning over here sweaty palms..and heart thumping..:)
xxxooojow
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 28, 2006 - 09:07pm PT
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the tarbuster, back in the motherfukking day. march, 1986.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 28, 2006 - 09:13pm PT
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watusi and the lovely jvb, mackin' on a sangi, hvc, 1985.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 28, 2006 - 09:16pm PT
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same time, same channel, same as it ever was.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 28, 2006 - 09:21pm PT
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and when we weren't bouldering....november, 1976
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 28, 2006 - 09:25pm PT
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not exactly oldskool, but what the hey...deucy on kurt's problem, november, 2004.
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Feb 28, 2006 - 09:28pm PT
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ok JB, please start a new thread, my dial up is slackin.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 28, 2006 - 09:39pm PT
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Hey BVB:
Kee'rection Required:You must have your BVD's up over yer head, cuz that picture of a blown out 'bidus a few frames up is from 1979! Dig, Bra, I blew those Etonic runners out on The Nose.
And Muss Wadd- That other shot, well I certainly feel naked without fish gear on my peach fuzz flatty tatties.
+, Muss, the one with the yeller lid: are we talkin''Kinstructshin?
The real questun, were we doin' ground up boltin', Rap boltin', or
crow barrin' Leeper hangers and 1/4" Rawlies that day?
Yours,
BeedWhacker-
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Ouch!
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Feb 28, 2006 - 10:03pm PT
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 28, 2006 - 10:12pm PT
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Hey BVB:
Kee'rection Required:You must have your BVD's up over yer head, cuz that picture of a blown out 'bidus a few frames up is from 1979! Dig, Bra, I blew those Etonic runners out on The Nose.
wtf, '79, '86, who's counting?? besides, you of all peeps should know i got one brain cell left his name is "custer", the rest were sacrificed to massive loads of the "deadly"......
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Hootervillian
climber
Zak's Cabin
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Feb 28, 2006 - 10:17pm PT
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killer pics...
dogfather- that's Edlinger, iirc, on white rastafarian.
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Tarbuster
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right here, right now
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Feb 28, 2006 - 10:24pm PT
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BVB:
Whoa the Deadly. Yer right(funisfun!) I retract, in shame.
Hooter- wuz wundrin' when someone would call old ed lingerer out!
Werner, Wonder speaks the truth Mahn: Please help us!
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RyanD
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Squamish
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Do not post anymore in this thread. Please go to Part II
Uhhhh sorry Werner, this thread should surely be posted in!
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