The Cadillac of Big Cast Nuts- Who Made It?

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Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 5, 2011 - 12:36am PT
Jim Phillips handed me a bunch of hardware today the most interesting piece being this Big Cast Nut!


It measures 1 1/2" X 2" top dimension.

A very elaborate casting!

And a beautiful shape!

Who made this amazing nut?
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Aug 5, 2011 - 12:53am PT
Clog?
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 5, 2011 - 01:01am PT
No visible stamp of any kind on this one!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Aug 5, 2011 - 01:23am PT
C'mon Steve, we need some love for the best nuts ever made, the Clog Cogs.

Whatever that thing is in your pictures, it's just one more version of a basic wedge. Do I have to go rooting through the historic layers in my basement to find a Cog? Or do you have one?

D
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 5, 2011 - 10:41am PT
More Cogs than Sprockets here on the Jetsons!


Back to the Wedgie, eh what?!?
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Aug 5, 2011 - 10:47am PT
Steve, I have never seen this splendid cast nut but it looks a little like the Gendarme Dual Taper Wedge, a rather short nut, much shorter than a MOAC, for instance. The #5 is the biggest of the set, and it is rather heavy. Maybe somebody in the Seneca area would have been able to produce such an amazing nut to enhance the set. Just an idea…


I do not believe that it could have been made by Simond.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 5, 2011 - 11:03am PT
Stephane- The angles look good and those guys didn't stamp their gear...Hmmmm!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 5, 2011 - 11:12am PT
More on Gendarme Nuts on this thread:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1397992&msg=1399128#msg1399128
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Aug 5, 2011 - 11:12am PT
No Steve, not the persons behind the Gendarme Dual Taper Wedge, I would have heard about your nut... In fact I think of someone around the Seneca, or maybe around the Gunks where short nuts were needed.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 5, 2011 - 11:44am PT
Seeing as me very own nuts are shall we say...well-travelled and often placed rudely, I endeavor to collect the naive, unlucky and unscathed ones for show and tell! LOL

Dude! Show us yer Way Hammered Nutz!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 5, 2011 - 09:40pm PT
Jim also sent a handful of Clog spuds my way too!


In the lower right is a rarity. Two tapers ground instead of cut parallel.

Slip of the saw or redesign at 11:59? Anyhow, it is the first double-cut spud that I have ever seen.


No markings on this one either but it appears to be home made.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Aug 6, 2011 - 09:54am PT
Steve, which logo...?

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 6, 2011 - 12:09pm PT
Oddly enough, all these Clog Wedge nuts are stamped early (top stamp shown, no ellipse).
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Aug 6, 2011 - 12:14pm PT
So... THE MUST!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Aug 6, 2011 - 12:30pm PT
Slip of the saw or redesign at 11:59? Anyhow, it is the first double-cut spud that I have ever seen.

The guys at Clog (Denny Moorehouse, I think, plus some others) were way out at the edge of gear design back then. For whatever reason, their stuff never caught on in North America, but they did some really amazing things.

When I first saw the Cogs I wondered what drugs they were using when they dreamed up that design. I took a couple out for a test drive though, for a laugh, but found they were so good that I dumped my Chouinard hexes and switched entirely to Cogs.

But as I said, Clog gear never sold well, and in any case the arrival of Friends on the market pretty much finished off the sale of hexes.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Aug 8, 2011 - 04:00pm PT
It looks like you collect things other than just gear! :-)
(I don't think the knurled nut was contemporary with a 1940s dime ... both are cool, though).
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 8, 2011 - 08:34pm PT
Mercury dimes are definitely an aesthetic high point but I really don't collect coins beyond travels. I found that dime laying in the grass on the side of my house less than a year ago after some neighbors moved out. Nice item for scale.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 13, 2011 - 12:42pm PT
Mystery nut bump!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 13, 2011 - 11:46pm PT
Karabin Bump For Sure!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2011 - 09:03pm PT
Bump...
Lasti

Trad climber
Budapest
Feb 20, 2014 - 06:49am PT
BUMP for answers to the great questions of Man.

Who cast this nut?
scuffy b

climber
heading slowly NNW
Feb 20, 2014 - 12:08pm PT
That really is a remarkable cast nut.

On the Clog spud, are you sure that it has not been modified?
I filed a second taper onto some of mine. After some use, the home made
nature of the mod became inobvious.

One feature of the single hole is more stability. Not good for shallow placements, though.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 20, 2014 - 01:24pm PT
I am coming around to the opinion that this piece wasn't originally made to be used climbing but I would love to be wrong about that.

Scuffy- The two-taper spud came to me that way and the finish seems to be consistent with the modification being original but rather rare. Adding the second attitude certainly makes sense but this shape wasn't in play very long.
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