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Grug
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Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 20, 2006 - 01:14pm PT
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I'm relatively new to ST and just recently saw Russ's 2004 post on Dan Grandusky RIP. I must admit I was somewhat disappointed by the relatively few posts, however, I realize that Dan lived in Boulder from 1980 on, and it would seem that relatively few Coloradans participate in ST.
Having said that, Dan was such a larger-than-life character, who touched so many other climbers' lives, I'm hoping there are some more stories out there about him - particularly from the Yosemite years, roughly 1976 through 1980.
During those years, Dan would drive out from Buffalo, NY with a contingent of climbers from Buffalo and adjacent areas of Canada. Danny, a great cook, would invariably cook every evening for as many as 15 people in Camp 4 including several of the Poway Mountain Boys, Dick Cilley, and Yabo. Now Danny wasn't the greatest climber back then, but he was absolutely the king of the Valley social scene. He'd have been a better climber if not for his penchant for quitting the climbing day early to get to the Ahwahnee Sweet Shop before it closed in the mid-afternoon.
I wish I had a better memory and was a better story teller (Danny was a master in both departments), because I was witness to dozens of interesting episodes. Danny was so friendly and truly interested in other people, that just waiting in line at the Yosemite store would invariably result in him telling stories to and yucking it up with people he'd just met (in line).
Danny moved to Boulder in 1980 and started a window washing business. I moved to the Boulder area in 1988, and immediately started climbing with Danny. He showed me all of the great climbing areas and introduced me to dozens of climbers living in the front ranges - most of who worked for him as window washers at one time or other. Through Danny I became friendly with Tom Dickey, Henry Lester, George Lowe, Derek Hersey, Adrian Burgess and a host of other climbers.
In the late 1980s and early 1990s, Danny was in his best climbing shape and was a solid 5.11 climber. Among other things, we did several routes in the Black Canyon together, including fast ascents of Air Voyage and the Stoned Oven. We also did some first ascents on the Black Wall at Mt Evans.
Following a divorce, I moved from Boulder in 1994, and it would seem that Danny began climbing less and less. When I returned in 1999, things weren't quite the same. Danny's old motivation for climbing wasn't there anymore. Things in his life really took a turn for the worse around 2001. The one drug he'd never abused, alcohol, he took to with a vengeance.
I think about Danny nearly every day. I may have been the bolder climber, but Danny was bolder in every other aspect of his life. I admired him immensely.
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Gramicci
Social climber
Ventura
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Feb 20, 2006 - 02:52pm PT
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Greg, I remember Dan he was sure outgoing. sadly I don't don't have a story to tell.
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Tarbuster
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Feb 20, 2006 - 05:03pm PT
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I first met Dan, probably 1980-Lodge Lot; he was quite game and very compulsive. I say this, perhaps incorrect to the meeting but so in the long run, because he asked Yabo seemingly out of the blue, "Hey Yabo wanna go to the Gunks?"
This was said in the same tone others might say "Wanna go see what's up at the Deli?" As it happens, being from Buffalo NY, he was probably heading home for a visit. Nevertheless my first impression was rewarded many times over.
I'll think of some Clean Dan stories in a bit, but check this out: last week I switched my phone message service back to what I had about 4 years ago and here's this buried/archived voice mail message, long drawn out and full of love, from Granduski.
I listen to it every couple days for kicks.
(BTW Grug, I live just over the hill up here in Nederland, I'm guessing you are Greg Cameron)
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Tarbuster
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Feb 20, 2006 - 05:28pm PT
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'K-
Kofi,
I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
Which is to say, Bein the ST n00b over here, heck: forum greenhorn period, do I have to Lurk left and right to draw a bead on your tru ID?
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Tarbuster
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Feb 20, 2006 - 05:57pm PT
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oops, guess i'm goin way down the bunny hole now.
but I digress, back to Clean Dan.
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Tarbuster
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Feb 20, 2006 - 08:06pm PT
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Grug, not an earlier Dan story:
When I got to Boulder after the second snowbird comp, I hooked up with Dan quite often. He always had a come one, come all spirit, much like the characterization I drew about the Stone Masters over on that thread. Particularly, Dan liked to draw in total greenhorns or even non climbers to his exploits.
4th of July, 90/91 or so he decides to carry on a tradition he'd born of getting up onto the Maiden in the Flatirons with a full BBQ set up, watching the fireworks and spending the night on top of the spire.
Dan roped in his two roomates for the festivities, who'd never tied into a cord, and myself. (I had eventually managed to tie in correctly on a few occasions)
A lot of Dan activities were ambitious fiascos, which tended to work out fine in the end. We completed the approach burdened with 2 big coolers full of food and beer, an actual Hibachi and various other props.
His job was to guide the newbies out the vertical, traversing 5.7 standard route on the N Face. Mine was to ferry loads out the spine into the crows nest, be ground man for the haul when they topped out and then free Jug out of the Crow's Nest up the path of the standard overhanging rappel to join them for the fireworks.
Er, there may have been some trouble with the roomates clawing there way out the side of the spire in the twilight, in any event by the time I started Jugging up, the show was in full tilt. Though I had been hollerin' loud for them to get the tackle up the lines so I didn't miss out on the summit view of the 9 county fireworks display, It turned out that I was doing the jugging with a birds eye view and it felt as though the fusillade was lighting up all around and beneath me.
Clean Dan was the man with the plan.
Cheers,
Roy
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 21, 2006 - 09:08am PT
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Nice story Roy. Very typical of Danny.
Here's one that I heard second hand. Now, Dan was absolutely unafraid to approach anyone and engage in conversation, no matter how famous. He also had a fantastic memory to go with his eclectic interests. Turns out, Marlon Brando was at the Ahwanhee in Yosemite once when Dan was there. Mr. Brando was sitting at a table talking with some friends when Dan approached him and said something to the effect "Mr. Brando, I've loved your movies!. Before Mr. Brando could wave him off, Danny went on, rattling off, "and I've seen 'On the Waterfront', 'The Appalossa', 'Night of the Following Day', 'The Ugly American', 'Mutiny on the Bounty', Julius Caesar', 'The Wild One'...". He ended up naming nearly all 40 or so movies that Mr. Brando had been in.
Now Mr. Brando was so impressed, that he ended up talking with Dan at some length instead of dismissing him like he would so many other fans. I've personally seen Dan do the same thing with rock stars at some of the concerts I've been to with him.
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
boulder, co
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Feb 21, 2006 - 12:06pm PT
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I first met Dan in the early 80's. He was a kind soul with upbeat energy and wonderful smile.
He would on occasion tell me about how Kevin and Barbra Bein (he knew I was good friends with them) save his life in the Gunk's one fall.
Seems Dan got really sick, didn't have anywhere to go and no money for a doctor visit, Kevin and Barbra took him in, took him to the doctor and paid for his medicine and nurse him back to good health.
The last time I saw Dan was a few months before he died. I was out taking early morning photos and stopped by the Eldo store for coffee. He was on his way to Eldo to climbed and meet some friends. He looked happy.
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Tarbuster
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Feb 21, 2006 - 12:06pm PT
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Wow. Brando.
There was an entire James Joyce Poem which he committed to memory and could recite on demand.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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Feb 21, 2006 - 12:07pm PT
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I got a bogus ticket from the Boulder Police (that's a whole other story.....it was eventually dismissed) but, I had to go to court to plead not guilty to get the legal ball rolling. Well, for those of you here on ST who don't know the drill, they call your name and you come up and enter a plea then they set a court date.
I was waiting to hear my name when the judge called out, "Dan Grandusky, Dan Grandusky". No response from anybody so he called out Dan's name a couple more times. Finally, in frustration he says, "if anybody out there knows this guy please tell him to get in here to court. This is serious!"
Dan, we miss you!
Bruce
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 21, 2006 - 04:46pm PT
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Where are you Leroy? You've got to have a story or two!
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Tarbuster
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Feb 21, 2006 - 08:03pm PT
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No Doubt.
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Tarbuster
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Feb 21, 2006 - 11:49pm PT
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'K,
since Leroy hasn't resurfaced from some skirt just yet, I'll tell another CLEAN DAN story.
COMPULSION: an irresistible impulse to perform an irrational act.
Wait a nano second, that sounds like climbing!
I'll have to try again:
In Road & Track, an MD posited that addictive behavior, if staved, often expressed itself as COLLECTING. (Said MD curbed his substance abuse and began collecting ferraris).
Dan had a wikked book collection: towering, wall to wall, growing daily, bursting at the seams! He loved books, reading. He heavily collected movies. He went on a three year Dole popsicle binge, (very healthy popsicles, as the pop goes he assured me), saving every one of the sticks. We are talking a one, two pack a day habit at the least -on the low end.
When I first got to Boulder, before I made my first $million$ bustin' out Fish portaledges on my sewing machine, and bought my second Lamborghini, Danny moved out towards Eldo, a few blocks from where my shop (and bed) was set up in Paul Sibley's Garage.
I used to go and check up on Dan (on my bike), hang out with him while he was watching movies. He always seemed to nod off in the beginning, middle, and end of these great movies (Clean had the best sourcing books on movies), owing to the methadone habbit he'd collected. But sure enough, any time I nudged him or said anything- Dan Would Answer.
MOSES: DUNN ROUTE
Dan said hey, we got a spin by Denver and get my stuff at the clinic. Which we did. I let Dan drive, cuz I'm warm, fuzzy, luving, and NUTS.
When he opened up his first methadone bottle and knocked 'her back,(while holding it with both hands between the steering wheel, in the middle of an intersection in downtown Denver)I thought: OK. I'm fine. I'm cool.
Never been an enabler. Any hoo, too spooked from the stigma and general bad rap associated with Opiates, their derivitives, by- products, synthetic stand-ins, and what not, I figured I better check it out, just to see what, I mean ya know, keep tabs on what Dan was up to. 'Speshly cuz he was drivfin g.
Well, we stopped off a few times on the drive to Utah, cuz, well, um, -Danny had to meet some people along the way.
We had a fantastic climb. The double overhung fist crack is sooperb. Hic-umf. We swung leads, I got the good pitches, Dan got to place the oversize friends he carried. The route went without incident and the summit view was stellar.
'Did all our raps with perfunctory ease,cleaned old slings from the stations, replaced them with new ones.
Funny thing was, even at the base just after doing the route, in fact any time I wanted during the weekend with Dan and his state funded stash, I could take these really
NAUGHTY LITTLE NAPS.
RIP Danny Boy
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 22, 2006 - 02:53pm PT
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Dan and I had much in common but we only crossed paths on rare occasion. Working a video crew, shooting guns at Sibley's, once long ago in the Valley; the last time was at the Derek Hersey memorial party in Eldo.
Strange.
It was a stones throw from where I first met Derek. It was the morning after his Diamond threeplay and I was walking by with his close friend Kyle Copeland.
Kyle asked Derek what he'd been up to and Derek said he had just done some Diamond routes. I asked which ones and Derek said ,"Do you know Pervertical Sanctuary?"
Kyle cracked up.
It had taken Derek but an hour to climb a route that took me more than four days to put up!
The candles that burn brightest also burn quickest.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Feb 22, 2006 - 03:29pm PT
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The last time I saw Dan was in Hueco '90? It could have been a Cheech and Chong movie and I was woefully out of shape for it. A bunch of us piled into my new trooper to go get mexican food. I drove, oh the horror. Under the peaceful serenade of blasting Public Enemy music he told me about his window washing company going into literal legal bankruptcy. He was so mater of fact about it I had to admire his cool, meanwhile I was being overwhelmed by thc-induced paranoia.
Later we talked about mutual friends and I realized the extent to wich he was able to accept the truly bizare at face value. We talked about a guy in Laramie who Dan had mentored into starting his own yard care cottage industry. Said guy had realized at about age 40 that he was unlucky with women, but wanted a family.
"What if you got to the end of your life and had never had a kid, wouldn't you fell kind of incomplete?"
So, said guy (for whom I have ultimate respect) took it upon himself to go first to Thailand and later the Pillipines in search of 'mailorder brides'. His story has a happy ending involving love and a family.
"Maybe mailorder brides aren't for everyone, but w-- did what it took, found happiness and I have to admire him for that," said dan.
I agreed.
Mr Cilley was with us and he just shook his head. "Mail order brides? You guys are too much."
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2006 - 04:00pm PT
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Here's another second hand story that Mark Rolofson told at Danny's "wake".
To help his window washing business through the slow winter months, Danny bought a snow plow, and would contract with some small businesses.
On his first night with the plow, he was on acid. It was at a restarant and it was snowing like crazy. Mark was in the restaurant drinking coffee while Dan was manically going forward and then in reverse, barely missing parked cars.
Mark overhead one of the patrons, watching this scene say in a slow drawl, "Man, I've never seen anyone plow snow like THAT before!"
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Tarbuster
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Feb 22, 2006 - 04:50pm PT
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Jaybro,
Sadly-Proudly, I may have contributed in my own small way to that window biz bankruptcy:
My first trip to to Boulder, '86, driving all night from the Valley after end of guiding season, (using shrooms, not to blast off, but more as a step up from bad road coffee), I get in and Dan, Strappo, Skip, Cilley are pretty much my contacts.
I choose Dan right out of the chute; he takes me to breakfast, gets me wickedly stoned.
The entire time we're at B-fast, unbeknownst to me, he's had his dot matrix printer churning out invoices.
We get back- Dan hands me the stack of invoices- says, wanna tear those for me? Huh? Yeah Man, tear em. So I did, right down the middle like a weightlifter practicing on phone books.
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UnaBonger
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Feb 22, 2006 - 05:56pm PT
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I met Dan and climbed with him in the early 90's in the Flatirons one time. He was as friendly as could be and I always looked forward to seeing his quick smile and chat when I saw him around.
I seem to also recall him throwing a giant, raucous Halloween party up the canyon, Lee Hill maybe. I'm certain Roy M was there, Hank Caylor, maybe Jim Beyer. Even with those characters around Dan stood out. I didn't know him too well but I miss him anyway.
Will
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Feb 22, 2006 - 06:05pm PT
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So it's your fault, Tar. The thing about that is, I can only imagine Dan took that tear in stride. At least in an overall sense.
"hmm, roy tore up my invoices, now what?"
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Tarbuster
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Feb 22, 2006 - 06:43pm PT
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Yes you are absolutely right Jaybro-
I mean, the man has this rap, very well deserved in the best sense, of doing hairbrained things and I walk in and do some errant paper shredding: a total bone-head maneuver and ya know what? I recall he made me lunch also. Something with Tofu.
Then, he loans me his Eldo guidebooks, like, the cool blue Rossiter book of topos + Erickson guide, which end up going back to Cali with me (what an ass i'm thinking of myself at this point); Danny, totally patient but getting impatient, leaving messages for me. Of course I mailed the books back.
We are talkin' 'bout a guy with an absolute heart of gold.
Then, Yes, that Halloween Party was tops.
'Gonna have to think about that one fer a span...
I'm trying to get a hold of John Baldwin and Steve (Turtlehead) Sangdahl as we speak.
I know they'll chime in big.
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Tarbuster
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Feb 22, 2006 - 06:48pm PT
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And UNABONGER?! WTF that is the moast shite kickin' handle I have seen thus far.
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2006 - 06:22pm PT
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I just got back from visiting Dan. If you're in Boulder, you can drive to El Dorado State Park and hike a mile up the Rattlesnake Gulch trail to visit Dan's memorial bench (replete with some of his ashes). I visit him every couple of months or so.
Since I went with my 10-year-old daughter, I am reminded of a couple of intelligent "tongue twisters' that Dan had me commit to memory sometime in the 1980s and I, last year, had Taylor commit to memory.
"Smegma spasmodic frogs from the far-flung Isles of Langerhuns."
and...
"My eschtacological perspective has evolved to the point of disincluding all macrotelological addedums". This one relects a philosophical viewpoint to which I adhere.
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
boulder, co
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Feb 26, 2006 - 06:32pm PT
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Greg...how did the surgery go? Hope all is well. Drop me a line if and when you want to get out.
Later, Bob
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Feb 26, 2006 - 07:24pm PT
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Next time I'm there I'm making a pilgramage to the Dan bench.
The first quote is firesign theatre ™, I am privileged to have riffed it back and forth with Dan. Ed H, coulda been there, in spirit anyway, don't know if he ever met Dan. If he reads this, he knows him a little, now.
Don't know the second one, hope it's original, it's profound and 'is' words to live by.,
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Tarbuster
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Feb 27, 2006 - 01:25am PT
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Dan doin, what he did best, spreadin' the love and hangin' with the beeutiful people.
Janiec, Russ, Kieth Gotschall, Native Uber-Babe, Dan.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Feb 27, 2006 - 01:29am PT
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Looks like she could be a member of my Wife's tribe...
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Tarbuster
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Feb 27, 2006 - 01:37am PT
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She was highly educated; fiercely gorgeous and very serious about her heritage. She new all the "secret" Indian names of the Peaks surrounding us. This pic taken in Estes Park CO, at Corey Dudley's wedding at the Stanley Hotel of "The Shining" movie fame. Circa early/mid '90's.
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2006 - 09:42am PT
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Bob. The surgery went fine - thanks for asking. I'm hoping to be climbing by end of May.
Jaybro. Thanks for contributing on the firesign theatre. I've been saying this thing for 20 years without knowing where it came from.
One more thing about Dan's memorial bench. The plaque says, "In loving memory of "Clean Dan" Grandusky. Then a picture of the Grateful Dead bear and a quote from Dan "Be there or be talked about".
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Tarbuster
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Feb 27, 2006 - 10:47am PT
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clubber
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eldorado springs,co
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okay,this one is for dan,please excuse my typing skills.
Back in the early 80s'to mid 80's alot of us climber dirtbags found work as window cleaners for Clean Dan(remember these were desparate times). even Yabo did a stint with us(thats another story).anyway,it was a great climber job cause if you wanted to take the day off to go climbing it was cool with the boss(dan)heck he would probably go with you and supply the weed too! or ifn ya wanted to go on a road trip and didnt have any weed,Dan would give his last nickel bag and a tank of gas and a guide book and some cams too. oops, i drifted. So one year Dan decides to take us window cleaners to Cabo San Lucas,Baja,mexico. All expenses paid.(this might be one of the reasons the company went belly up,instead of paying his taxes Dan took us on this trip,seems reasonable to me anyway)So about 7 of us went and Dan brought along this brand new mountain bike (in the box)for this guy named jimmy? who Dan only met ONCE on pearl st mall and Dan told him he would bring him a mountain bike .after a few days of drinking its time to deliver the bike to jimmy in La Paz,about 100 miles from cabo.our driver,Captain God Damnit(mike od)and myself eat some little tiny peices of paper for the drive. We get to La Paz and ask Dan do ya have Jimmys address or phone #. Well no. how do ya expect to find jimmy,Dan? I'll just ask someone. So the first people we see are some street vendors and Dan runs up to ask where to find jimmy,and guess what....they knew right where he was!!!! so Dan takes him to lunch and gives him the bike ,only the second time they had met!
Clean Dan was one of the most generous people in the world and was always interested in what you were doing,climber or not.
Dan,r.i.p. peace and fuk-nes, steve s.
(i have other dan stories to tell)
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Leroy
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I can easily see Roy with his best Burt Lancaster grin tearing those invoices in half.He used to kill Russ and I the things he´d do when he was on pot.
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Leroy
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I wish I´d been at Cory,s wedding.
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Leroy
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Dannys dying is literaly like apiece of me dying.Who else could tell a Dick Cilley story like Dan.Ask not for whom the bell tolls .It tolls for thee.Danny would love that.
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2006 - 10:59am PT
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Welcome back Leroy.
An interesting thing about Danny's business problems were that the IRS would confiscate anything of "real value", like a house, but would not go after all of the little things like climbing gear, record albums, books, videos etc. Because of this, Danny was able to indulge more than ever in acquiring lots of the little things. You could show up at Dan's with only a bathing suit and he could outfit you for an Everest expedition (and would).
I don't think I bought climbing shoes for 10 years because Danny would just give me some when I needed.
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Tarbuster
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Right on Leroy, I'm wicked ripped right noW!
(Check out my "Time Machine from the Mussy Nebula" thread "Sport", yer a factor). 'Hope all is well in Spain; that's gotta be the ticket. Good on ya.
Yeah, Grug, when Danny was gettin' the micro hair scrutinization from the IRS, they actually made him count out things like #'s of pairs of pants in his posession.
And Leroy, the Anne Walker/Corey Dudley wedding:
During the ceremony, every time I looked into the crowd from up on the groom's "podium", I'd look at Russ and could not hold myself from completely BUSTING up. I had to tilt my head so I couldn't see Russ's face or I was totally going to lose it.
That beautifull American Indian Woman, fully busted on me for wearing green horn rimmed sun glasses and cowboy boots with my Groomsmen's tux. And, unh, unh, no way she bought that "I'm a western wear enthusiast" stuff. She hit me straight up about it.
I just had beers/dinner with Dudley and he reminded me of a Dan Crescendo:
After the wedding ceremony, reception, etc, the Inside crew, Bridesmaids, Groomsmen, CLOSE family, AND OOPS, a few climbers, where all having a nice bit of quiet time up in a really nice room there in the Famous Stanley Hotel. We were quietly gathered around a beautfull big Super King size bed Some were relaxing on the overstuffed furniture in the posh, quaint historic suite.
Danny is sitting on the floor against the bed: he wips out a FULL bag of weed, gets right into rolling a monster spleef, no hesitation, passes it around. People are a little unnerved, because of all items, the least of which is proper decorum, ANN'S DAD IS AT THAT TIME VERY HIGH UP IN THE NSA. (um, national security agency).
I figured, our cover already blown, I took a big old drag and not another person in the room even touched it.
I don't think Dan burned it quite down to the roach.
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Tarbuster
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Good story Clubber.
The dude was really thinking about people around him and always willing to go overboard to help out.
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clubber
Trad climber
eldorado springs,co
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Another cool thing about Dan was the never ending steam of "unusual" people that would end up living at his houses or just visiting. Visiting climbers,visiting psycho's(often ending up moving in),visiting intelligent people,or just plain homeless people taking a shower and getting "jacked"....made for some interesting evenings and mornings too!! The cast of characters that knew Dan was amazing. peace and fuk-nes steve sangdahl
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Tarbuster
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photo hand off by greg cameron
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Leroy
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Danny discovered u could pry open the display window of the 4seasons restaurant.Inside was a bunch of climbing gear.One night ,drunk,danny some Poway mountain boys???? and canadian rifraf ??? stole it all and got cold busted driving around the loop.Spent the weekend in jail.got off with time served.Pretty lucky.
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2006 - 09:44am PT
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Incarcerated in the Yosemite jail by order of Judge Pitts circa 1978:
"Clean Dan" Grandusky (ambassador of good will - ringleader)
Tom Gibson (poway mountain boy - was at the wrong place at the wrong time)
Mike Tschipper, George Manson (canadian riff-raff).
If not for Mike Tschipper throwing one of the stolen boots out of the getaway car (onto the street and leaving the matching one in the car), they might have gotten away. Driving the wrong way on the one-way loop, perhaps, also lead to their ultimate capture.
One can't help but think that the world would have been safer if these hooligans had gotten longer sentences.
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Leroy
climber
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Greg ,Did u know Mike has spent the last 20 years in a mental institution supposedly for taking Acid?
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2006 - 11:07am PT
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Yeah, I heard about Mike, Leroy. Hard to believe,...little, shy, nice Canadian boy, Mike.
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2006 - 09:45am PT
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OK, so I'm trying to keep this thread alive...Danny deserves it.
I'm sure Danny knew more climbers in the Boulder area than anyone else. The first year I came to Boulder, Danny organized a Thanksgiving Day potluck at Indian Creek (the Desert). There were going to be like 30 people there or so, but it snowed beginning late Wednesday night. I remember waking up to a winter wonderland, but eventually things cleared up and we were able to climb by mid-day
In the end, maybe 15 people showed up - including Derek Hersey and Adrian Burgess. I remember doing Supercrack with Adrian. And we ended up having a great Thanksgiving dinner! Nobody but Dan could have organized something like that.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Same place as you, man...... (WB)
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Mar 11, 2006 - 01:53pm PT
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Here's one that maybe the Tardbuster can fill in the blanks on:
We (me, Tard, Doug VanGina, Tom Carter?) rented a house in JT for a winter a long time ago... so of course we have a party... pretty big one. Danny shows up with some hot chicks (Roy??? true right? way more tho this story) and we do what we do... party!!! Eventually Danny decides he needs a nap... or passes out... but either way he is on the bed asleep. The rest of us decide to do a slide show.... after seeing Danny laying there with a bit of a plumber going, we pull his pant almost all the way off and project the entire slide show on his ass!!!!! Way funny.... all the obvious jokes about "what is *that* crack" etc.... Must be some pics too..... Danny never did wake up and the next day was none the wiser....
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Mar 13, 2006 - 05:43am PT
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OH, my F#ckin' Gawd those partys where Da Bomb.
That one was the seat of the "Battle Royal", the Schmutzie "You owe me a $hunski$ so beat it and leave yer girls" and gobs of other stunts. Yeah Dan was hip and flyin' right along side, wing man if you will. He had girls, booze, which was rare for Dan in those days (only the Booze was rare). I know he brought some great Stoli and ran out of it: he went on a pretty harrowing epic to get Stoli, Mixer supplies, Popcorn, whatever else we said we needed. He probably tried to find a pack of those tree-hugger American Spirit Ciggys as well.
Dan was gone a long time.
In the meantime, I was pouring my beer on the Chess Board where "Shipoopi" (Steve S.) was trying to concentrate, kickin' but on various players, Russ was mixing Daquiris with the Blender Lid OFF, so quite a bit of the drink would fountain up, The Driver was then getting BODY SLAMMED BY RUSS, in every room in the house, eventually to include a slam onto flat concrete and broken glass on our porch.
We partied like Rock Stars. When Dan got back, I was kicking people in the ass while standing next to them, with a deft lateral swing of the knee. 'Never could Hackey Sack to save my life, but I could pull BS maneuvers like that, laughing wildly, for hours.
So Dan gets back with of course a full and well earned story of his epic abroad. He's picked up hitchhikers, gone out of his way to drop them off, gotten lost, had a bit more to da-rink, had a flat tire AND been approached by COPS while he's out on some backwater Josh Washed out road, changing his tire.
So, Russ, ya didn't back me up on Leroy's distant relative havin' a Vagina in his Back (actually we said it was his dad), but I'll fergive and say it Was My idea to swing the slide projec-tor around onto Dan's backside while he was passed out in the Bedroom. He never woke up and yes, yes, many WISE CRACKS were made at Danny Boy's expense. Yes Folks, that and all above really happened. Dan's flank, replete with Butt Crack, was an excellent viewing portal!!!
Next day, I think he said we partied kinda hard for his taste.
Dan could be modest.
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 13, 2006 - 03:20pm PT
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Gosh. All my stories are of the PG-13 variety.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Mar 13, 2006 - 07:42pm PT
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Thats' OK Grug, Roll'em out!
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buzzman
Trad climber
Golden
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Mar 22, 2006 - 03:05pm PT
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Clean Dan was the best story teller in the galaxy!!! (his words, my credit to him)
I was lucky enough to meet Clean Dan through Grug, and was always amazed with his recollection of detail. He could recite the very nature of each hold in the crux move of many a climb. I could never remember such tidbits long enough to get to the base of the climb much less during the moments of tension when I really needed them. I am more of a recreational type of climber who has been drug up many classic Colorado routes (drug by grug). But I still remember many time climbing with Dan, one more memorable event was our winter ascent of the Naked Edge with Dan and Grug (early 90's). It was probably the second or third time I had been to Eldo, I had no idea where anything was. "wanna climb the edge?" Danny asked me, "uhhh sure" I said not knowing where I was going. Danny led the 2nd and 4th pitches (grug p1&p5), and I remember looking up at him at the top of the wide section on p4 thinking I was going to freeze in my rugby shirt before he could pull out of the roof. But sure enough he did it and I got to be the last one off the hanging belay onto p5, (like anybody but the Grug was going to lead the fist crack). Sadly I left his brand new Concat (sp?) bean on the bolt. I had never seen one before and could not get it off, so I bought him a new one. Did anybody pick up "mine"? Afterwards, we reflected on our accomplishment for a few moments before Danny told us another great story about another greatest climb in the galaxy.
-buzzman
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Dick Danger
Trad climber
Steepest Granite
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Mar 23, 2006 - 12:16am PT
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Sorry to hear about Clean Dan... I did not know before now that he had passed. I met Dan many times, but cannot say that I ever really "knew" him. I met him through friends that were hard at work putting up routes with him or concurrently with him in the South Platte during the late '80s. His routes had some real character... F*#k, they still do - I just havent been on one them in awhile.
The thing I probably remember most about Dan was his genuine friendliness and genorosity. He sure knew how to throw a party. His *was* yours...
I recall running into him a couple times of in Clear Creek Cyn. He said he was there for the climbing, but it sure seemed that he was putting forth a strong effort into recruiting souls for his window washing business. It sounded like business was good for him in Denver. His offer was very tempting at the time...
I last recall seeing Dan at A Strappo b-day party in Eldo - early 90's. I'm pretty sure he played a big role in pulling that one off. It was a real good time with plenty of everything for everyone. Dan seemed to be happy and doing well. Not sure if it was sparked by Danny's energy and 'vibe' or the beer and whatnot, but a buddy and I cast off the following morning for a pretty remarkable Devils Tower and Needles adventure. It was one of the most rewarding climbing trips I've had yet. Although, every IC trip comes close...
I am grateful that you posted this up. I have wondered how Dannny was doing over the years. I guess I'm glad to know it, yet dissapointed at the same time. You all know what I mean...
After a few job-related moves between, CO, CA, WY, and now, finally back to CO, I have lost touch with nearly all of my old S. Platte and Boulder buddies. My visits to this and the other group are sporadic at best. Anymore, its usually just a troll or a beta search for stuff in Fremont, Split Rock, Lankin Dome, and Sweetwater Rocks vicinities. Finally back in the platte, with a toddler that can carry rack - its going to be a damned good summer.
Rest In Peace Clean Dan - I'll be toasting you on the Dome as soon as I can schlog up there.
Danger
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 20, 2006 - 03:34pm PT
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Clean Dan at the top of Cary Granite, first ascent, 1990.
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tiny TIM
Social climber
Buffalo NY
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Sep 28, 2007 - 11:32am PT
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I met Dan in Buffalo, back when he was in College and climbing in the Gunks in the 70's.
Dan took the clean climbing approach seriously-calling himself 'Clean Dan'. I would mess around with him saying 'I thought it was because of your high standards of personal hygiene.'He would laugh and tell me I should start climbing and that I had a natural advantage being super tall and could reach further than most people.
I saw Dan again when I moved out to Denver in the 80's. A friend of ours from NYC was visiting and Dan wanted to take us climbing in Eldorado Canyon.We had to mess around first in the morning- Dan writing invoices for the window cleaning enterprise. His motto being 'Your Pane is our Pleasure'.
We got to the canyon around mid-day. It was getting hot. Dan had a boom box playing the Talking Heads -blasting. We started out bouldering. Friends of Dan's came by. One was a beautiful girl wearing a short dress. She kissed Dan, then drove off in a jeep. Dan confided that 'she is a deep throat artist, man, take your dick and balls in her mouth at the same time!'
Then he and my friend started climbing up some 'strictly casual' route.
I was sitting in the shade watching Dan and my friend move up the rock. Dan was yelling instructions, then would climb back down to make sure my friend got it right.
After they got back down we sat in the creek drinking beer and talking to Dan's climbing pals. I noticed a guy free climbing near the top of the canyon. An eagle was flying overhead. Dan waved off my fascination. 'Look over here, these people don't know what they are doing' Look at this-oh this is bad, man!
My friend Dennis called me today to tell me about this Clean Dan stories site. He said 'remember when I was out of town and let him stay at my place in NYC?' He left a lobster carcass sitting around for days. When I came home there were maggots everywhere. Dan was unconcerned-'It will be all right just clean it up. I won't do it again.'
We both miss Dan all these years later. I thank all of you who contributed the stories and pictures.
There are people in Buffalo who can tell some stories about Dan from 30 years ago. He left a mark wherever he went, apparently from what I have read here.
Best wishes to you all. Tim
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Apr 23, 2009 - 12:24am PT
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bump
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Apr 23, 2009 - 09:46pm PT
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Thanks for the bump, Ed. Lessee, I got one. Up until this time, all of the Black Canyon routes Danny and I tried ended in success. Eighth Voyage was the first of the, er...other kind. It must have been maybe 1992, possibly 1991. We had already done the Cruise, the Goss-Logan, Air Voyage, and Stoned Oven by that time. All with little incident. SOMEHOW, we started the friggin' 8th Voyage climb at the same start as the Air Voyage rather than the Stoned Oven. I remember leading out left maybe halfway up the Air Voyage third class start. We went a few pitches, the whole time convincing ourselves (pathetically, in retrospect) that we were "on topo". Finally we ended up on a long. narrow ledge with a blank headwall above us. I don't know, maybe another time I might have been pissed or feeling defeated or some negative sh#t. Instead, I remember feeling absolutely exhilarated. Sheesh,in the end I had to leave like 3 cams in addition to slings and carabiners. People who know how cheap I am (those who know me) would know how much this had to hurt. I can't explain it...big rock climbs just make me feel like this sometimes. We did maybe 5 rappels and slogged our way out the Cruise Gulley.
I was happy hanging out with my friend Dan the whole time...
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Firewalker
Social climber
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Sep 12, 2010 - 02:38am PT
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Hey you all,
feeling a bit of Dan tonight listening to James Taylor and thinking of all the fabulous times i had with him at the Boulder Theatre,with Koda and Samurai Sam his chow chows and his magnetism... he called me days in a row before he passed and I miss him and I loved him dearly. He was at both my Boulder babies births busting into the Boulder Hospital website and harassing the nurses- I am sure he was there solely for comic relief, but he held my hand through a lot of things. He and Neil Backstrum and i took a trip to Canyon City with my first born son Gabriel back in 94 as he showed us the ropes. I wish I could have him call me honey one last time and toss me a frisbee...
Cheers...
Lisa
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Firewalker
Social climber
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Sep 12, 2010 - 11:51pm PT
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I met Dan at a coffee house and I am certain I was the thirteenth girl he asked out that day on University Hill... We went on our first date to an Oingo Boingo concert at Folsom stadium I think... on campus. he wore purple levis which he was extremely proud of and I had on some malaysian mermaid garb...we looked fresh! we jamed to dead man's party. it was all very sweet.
Dan would help me year's later as I was a single mom... At this time, He lived in a basement apartment in Eldorado Springs. He went to lamaze classes with me every week at the Boulder Community Hospital and he gave me solice when there was none to be found. He told me once of a party and a turkey baster full of miscellaneous sperm in which a friend was impregnated by... wow, definitely not PG. He always wanted a baby...
He and I each had babies that year. It was 1994...His beloved chow chow had died (maybe his name was not Koda but he was a bear) and he got Samarai Sam and I had Gabe. I will find and upload picks of our first puppy snow.
He would pick me up and take me to his home in East Boulder and cook for me... always fresh fruit and something warm in my belly. He thought broken tortilla chips were a waste of time and would throw a half bag away if he thought them too crumbly. Oranges and citris always left out to ripen naturally. Took me in his "new" toyota 4Runner it was a 1990 I think. He was very happy with it.
He was smitten with an Herbalist from Wild Oats and they lived together a bit in Erie...Jana I think.
He was so brilliant with his books and loved the endless cases he had in his room. He told me he began reading classics at the age of three. His father had taught him to read... He liked his Magnetics and lay on them at night. Many times he picked me up on Sunday night and took me to the Boulder Theatre for E-town live radio broadcast and sometimes we would go to campus for the foriegn film series and sit in the Psyche building together in the dark. I loved his company and although we climbed only a couple of times together, I know we knew the same man.
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Sep 14, 2010 - 01:42am PT
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Grug,
Just found your thoughtful post about Clean Dan Grandusky.
What an incorrigibly colorful and loveable human. A painful reminder of the passage of time.
I think I met Dan through the Poway Mtn Boys. We certainly hung out together a bunch and I seem to recall some hare brained trip down the Baja with Jan, Dan, Tom and someone else. How about the sessions in Dan's Boler in Josh?
Bump for Clean Dan! As Yabo once said, "Arc on With the Power of the Burnouts of Gore!"
PB
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Firewalker
Social climber
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Sep 16, 2010 - 02:04am PT
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Been to the Black Canyon of the Gunnison...up on the trout river with my rusted bunsen. I cannot cross the rise fumin'. Dank basement that pulled me up monster woman. Drank some bladder wine with a ring tailed cat never knew it was Chill. Watch a movie clip on armageddon and storm the Bastille! Too busy with climbin to give it all up.Lost as a big dog found myself a pup. Spring drip the water jug next to the rock and eat fish taco 9-2 and 10 o'clock.. I showed up at dawn poured in a coffee mug. Pulled open the car door and unlocked my love. Bubble up hot spring- Conundrum Maneuver. Black and white and read all over...? salt and pepper Dan with a newspaper! That was bad man!
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Sep 16, 2010 - 08:04am PT
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That's some kind of stream of consciousness thing you got going on, Firewalker. Reminds me of how Dan could (and would) recite long passages from Joyce's Ulysses. That first Chow-chow was Shanghai.
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bmacd
climber
Relic Hominid
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Sep 16, 2010 - 11:11am PT
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Thats tragic about Mike Tschipper, we put up a cool route in Murrin Park together, Poltergiest. This is the first I heard of his problems being drug induced.
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Firewalker
Social climber
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Sep 16, 2010 - 10:37pm PT
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Oh yes! Shanghai... He is buried in his old back yard in Eldorado Springs...Shanghai was older when I reconnected with Dan...I cried the first night I came home from Lamaze class alone... seeing all the couples together. I was filling water jugs in eldo and I met Dan on the road...It had been a few years...and i was Beautiful pregnant...Real round and full of life and in outer space! Dan had just lost Shanghai and was seeing an acupunturist for all of his Lee Hill...He entertained me with his smile and his goofy sweetness. the first thing he said was wanna play frisbee and I'll be your Lamaze coach all in one breath. The best thing he did at the birth was just be there. He fed me oranges straight to my lips and gave me a hummus sandwich to eat right after I had my baby...It was everything. thanks for saying hi...I never knew what happened...until months later... one day Danny was talkin to me and the next day he was gone...I tried to call him, but he did not answer back. I miss my friend.
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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Sep 17, 2010 - 08:43am PT
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clean dan was a boulder legend and a great guy. i met him with the boulder crew in jtree in 1982 and was friends ever since. Not too many stories, but we did build the first gym in Denver together before his biz relationship with Brian went south. He never held a grudge and always had a smile on his face. We took a trip to San Diego for a comp in 1990 and had a great time @ Red Rocks..
HE will be missed as one of the nice guys in the sport..
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galoot
Trad climber
boulder co
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Sep 18, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
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i accidently pirated dan onto a boat ride from phantom ranch to diamond creek in fall 92. then in april 93 we organized a trip for which he bought & cooked food for 16 people for 14 days & froze it in the walkin at dons cheese & sausage mart.
on the river he spent all his free time cooking & schmoozing & never roped up but he selected an offwidth at grapevine camp for the kayakers to tr. they set it up & all had go after go & while dan cooked dinner his sandbag gently simmered at the other end of the beach. i watched patiently until darkness fell & they all deemed it impossible. then i got my turn & did it by flashlight pulling some forgotten old school caver trick from up my sleeve. thanks dan
he found another offwidth 60 miles downriver in tapeats sandstone that waits to be climbed. but he died owing me another canyon run.... so to whom it may concern: get me on a canyon trip & i ll show you that OW then we get the fa & name it memorial ... quien sabe??
for all dan s genius in so many areas the river gods were not so kind to him. i showed him a hole in hance rapid that was so remote & deadly i ll lay odds that charley heavenrich has never looked into it after 101 canyon runs! i think with me it must be the kerouac- beatnik desire to view the void in the spirit of pliny the elder wanting to stare into an erupting vesuvius. i rowed far across the river committing to the recently learned right run and caressed the huge hole at the entry above the rapid. as if caught in the gravitational field of a black hole inside the schwarzchild radius from which there is no escape i felt its inexorable beckoning. below my left oar was such a hollow mass of swirling power that i looked deeply into the heart of the river into the ever changing fluid sculpture where no human eyes were meant to see. for a further description see descent into the maelstrom or johnny cash s classic "whirl and the suck". words fail me. swallowing my terror & my heart in one gulp i made a deceptively smooth reaction at one with 22 feet of australian ash oars levered against the downriver thule pins and my trusty maryannette was wedged free from the inner orbit of oblivion. i breathed out the air of praise to jah & all the river gods as clean dan casually observed " i knew you had it all the way" & i silently responded: "you have no clue!"
17 months later i watched from a rock on the bank with my first binoculars thru 20-20 eyes a couple weeks after a surgical miracle had given me new sight. while 11 pairs of eyes followed a most exciting run in the bismark dodging all the rocks & crashing thru the huge wave at the bottom no one saw that a rookie boatman who hit that same hole had flipped. his brand new 16 footer slapped upside down at that hole like one hand clapping for 12 hours. a passenger, e man, a brother to me since nankoweep was also doing his 20th century version of pliny with his camera rolling. we watched helplessly as he flailed around the boat as whole lifetimes were compressed into minutes . kayakers had the survivors & a huge yard sale to fish for..but this time schwarzchild radius held the e man was not released back to the surface for over 6 weeks. RIP e-man amen.
on a lighter note there was plenty of flat water & clean dan was at the oars. he claimed some childhood boating experience but demonstrated such a lack of feel or even basic laws of force that i was speechless to coach him & settled in to observe as he went from executing small circles to every shape of pretzel in a pound bag!! finally and finally he was pulling both oars at once with less apparent consternation if not ease and the trusty marionette proceeded ever so slowly on a fixed course. "i think i ve got the hang of it" he flashed that smile of relief as he rowed upstream!! rip dan we still love ya!
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Daddy-o
Social climber
NY
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Here's what a guy Dan was:
This is longer than I thought it would be and I hope the readers can relate.
I lived across the street from Dan in 1982-1983, 6th and University in Boulder. I left town in '84 when he was in North Boulder. I called him a few times over the years but never got through to him. I'd leave messages like "I'm married now with two kids. Hope you're fine." So here it is 2013, I did an internet search for him and discovered he had passed away.
What a guy, someone I hadn't seen or heard from in almost 30 years but I was hoping he was okay, prospering. It sounds like he had continued the climbing, the party and making friends.
Even though what I'm about to write might appear to be a part of Dan that was his weakness, he wasn't the only person I met in that respect, but he's the only one I care remember.
I'm not a climber, but I was pretty good at climbing hills on my bike, and hiking too. I guess he and I met because the guys in the basement of the house behind me were climbers and sometimes I'd try out their crack machine, hang out, party.
When we met Dan hadn't started his business. IIRC the first iteration was Nu-Wave Window Washing, a business card with Japanese Tsunami woodblock cut artwork. I'll bet I still have one socked away.
By the way, when I last saw him his National Geographic collection was not complete. There is apparently one super rare edition and I recall he would go to yard sales and search, sometimes for hours, for that one edition.
Thanks Dan for taking me to the Talking Heads at Red Rocks. It was a great show.
"Got back a couple of weeks ago and still on the traveling high."
I was probably there the night he first tried heroin. A friend of his came back from Hong Kong and "forgot" he had some brown stashed in a little tube in his wallet. There were a half dozen, or so of us that Sunday night who snorted it. I remember the day of the week because I had a project due the next day. (I hadn't started the project before I went to his house, but the presentation was a total success.) I remember walking past his place the next day, my body said "go to Dan's, go to Dan's..." My brain said "don't be stupid" and for a change my mind won. When I saw him about a week later I had to ask what happened. He said "it got lost in the wash Thursday and that's the best thing that could have happened to that sh#t." --So I was real sad to read he eventually found some more.
One night he called asking if I had a glass pipe. I said "no but why?" Hash oil. Well it turns out it was freebase. (My joke: I did it before the stuff was dangerous. Dan might like the irony.) I'd learned something about myself by then, the first time you try something like that it's probably the best it will ever be. It was okay in its way. I still can't see what the real draw is though, how it devastated cities. The closest thing I can figure is that crack is like a super-duper cigarette. By the time I left Boulder it looked like the habit had started to grab Dan. That made me sad because he was a really good guy and I hated to see him hooked on anything.
He told me he once slept through a Led Zeppelin concert in NY because of some Vietnamese weed. He was still pissed, but with a smile.
"The man in the brown derby hat." If you've read Joyce' Ulysses you might recall it was a character that showed up a few times that June 16th. I laughed when out of the blue he said it one day. He pointed out there was a laugh on every page of that book. And there is. I'd never thought of that character until he brought it up, and now I can never forget it. That might be my best memory of Dan.
Let's see, he turned me on to peyote, just went and gave me like a dozen caps out of a burlap bag and sent me on my way.
It sounds like alcohol really grabbed him. It grabbed me too. I gave it up in '95. The heroin and freebase with him were my only tastes of that stuff and I consider myself lucky to have been wise enough at least where they were concerned.
Good conversation with Dan, fun to be around in a genuine and believe it or not innocent way. I'll bet most everyone recognizes that innocence though. The post above, about his being in the birthing room, twice, demonstrates his connection, his empathy. He was a good man, not just a great guy.
This is a link to video of an interview of him on the internet, early '90s. Click the link that says "28:07" to jump right to it.
I need to go to his memorial. Thank you everyone who placed it there.
Peace Dan, rest in peace, I am so glad I knew you, that we once talked, laughed and shared ideas.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Feb 19, 2015 - 05:01pm PT
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Still looking for Clean Dan stories.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 20, 2015 - 06:04am PT
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From his home in or above boulder, I was treated to the cast of characters, all big heros But especially 'Big'Sal? the last name was Matusilrai?? SPELLING AND CORRECTION , please!! this was the man in Richard H's (RIP) pack in Red rocks etc.
the stories that I can remember are not complete enough to tell, in any almost understandable way. It will take time and some knockin' of the Noggin.
I thought the world of Dan, and apparently, to my surprise, he of me; he left me with the keys to his house and 'in charge'
feed the animals, people who were camped, make sure the bills got paid ,ect.
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Friend
climber
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Feb 22, 2015 - 09:16pm PT
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I never knew Clean Dan and was surprised to find myself reading this entire thread. Classic tales. RIP.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 23, 2015 - 05:22pm PT
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When i arrived in boulder some other gunkies were 'camping' at Dan's up past the strip bar ? He was A little sick of the girl friends, if not the climbers who had very hard core 'brothers' but they the two of them not so much.
I think this was around the time he was working, forgive me if this is wrong, was working on
ROAD WARRIOR(?) some wide nightmare, Dan had told me that if they were gone when he
came back he would not be upset.
my climbing 'partner' who couldn't lead himself out of a paper bag, was not privy to that
nugget of information but he non the less was the catalyst for the fight that would ultimatly rid Clean Dan of his over-staying house guests.
As I remember this, and my memory is shot, but the girls had done the laundry, blankets and such,
they asked di'p'wad to help fold , he was cute to look at by their standards. It was an
un- manly request for sure, and he was very negative but grudgingly agreed.
but ...
when the two girls left the bulk of the folding to him , he stuffed all the clean laundry, including Nightys and PJs, into a closet and we left for Eldo.
The girls got back to find us gone and the laundry balled up in a dirty closet. ? They were Pissed and said so. An icey pal fell over the party house two girls who had over stayed their welcome and three stinky drunk and high climbers doing our best to undermine their stay.
only because his name is so fitting do i use it , and he has not been in touch since the Incedent so. . .
Mr Large was living , i think in Nederland but we got toasted and insisited he stay over. When he said he was cold, in the middle of the night that other "DPwad' guy went and took blankets from the girls beds. these were not house blankets but the girls own from back east, when they came in drunk from the bars, allele, who's Allele, you ask that is, all Hell broke loose ! Maybe the guy who said he was a neighbor remembers? siht was flying ... !
we beat a hasty retreat to the cars in the drive way they followed and I circeld around and locked them out on a cold night in late April or May?
all now more than thirty years ago in the '80s ....
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 26, 2015 - 04:10pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
I first met Dan in a light rain on the bridge in Eldo.
A Wild man was there saying, I drove 17 hrs straight!, com'on lets try some thing!
Dan looked at me hard, and said will you be ok ?
He had seen me screw up Ruppers and bail to Alison's Rope with only two or three pieces in!
I had changed directions and was heading down, kinda in flames.
So that I was going to hook up with, this Non-local, Skeletor
Who was fresh off the road? ... in the rain ??!,
It seemed like I had a death wish or something,
to make that plain he said stay to the steepest thing in the Canyon,
Jeff dragged me up the Diving Board!
[Click to View YouTube Video]
when we got back after dark, Dan invited us in.
Thnx Clean Dan
RIP
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Feb 26, 2015 - 09:56pm PT
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Got some writing to do...
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 27, 2015 - 12:36pm PT
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Sal Mamusia!!
How's that and just when I was sure that Lipator had robbed more brain cells than....
how's that
writing goin' Todd?
(so thats where two old Gunkies might have met)
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Trace
climber
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I'm writing this nearly 15 years after Dan's death. The last post on this thread is 2006. I have searched on google for Dan several times over the years, and had no luck. Tonight at the start of 2018, I added 'clean' to my search, and discovered these posts.
Dan and I dated in 1978, in Lake Placid, NY. He was a special man. He loved climbing of course, but also loved poetry. He wrote beautiful poetry himself, and loved James Joyce. Once a year in Buffalo he would participate in a marathon reading of Ulysses. How could you not love him?
Dan was a passionate young man and I enjoyed every minute with him. He left to climb in the Tetons, and I moved to San Francisco to pursue art. Our paths almost crossed several times, but in the pre cellphone age communication could be a challenge.
I'm very sad that he left the world so young.
A note on the nickname Clean Dan. When I knew Dan he didn't like the name. According to his tale he earned it from working in a pudding factory in Buffalo. When he'd go out after work he'd be covered in pudding, thus the nickname 'Clean Dan'.
RIP Dan
Love,
Tracey
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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Trace,
If you look at the top and bottom of the first page you will see many more pages of posts and stories are available for you to read.
Erik
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Trace
climber
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Thanks Erik.
Just spent the evening reading them. Great stories, so Dan. It makes me sad that he fell for heroin. It breaks my heart.
He was an amazing guy! Wonder if anyone ever found his poetry.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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That sounds like the Danny I knew, Trace. Nice to hear from someone from someone who knew him from the Buffalo years. You reminded me that I haven't visited his memorial bench in Eldorado for a few years now. I think I'll do that, maybe even today. (I'm the Grug of the OP)
As far as his poetry, his nephew, Mike, was the executor for Danny after his death and worked closely with a mutual friend, Tom Gibson in dealing with all of his things. I ended up with a lot of his mountaineering books. I and Tom have a fair number of slides. Danny liked to take pictures. I don't, myself, recall seeing papers or any writings of his.
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Gritter
Trad climber
Hudson, Quebec
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Jan 15, 2018 - 08:38pm PT
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1975 to 1978:
After several, assfreezingly cold winters teaching in Manitoba, I got back to Toronto in 1975 and began climbing in earnest at Rattlesnake Point [Milton, Ontario] and Bon Echo Provincial Park [50 miles N of Napanee, Ontario], spoiling myself with annual trips to the Gunks and also to the yearly Alpine Club GMCs out west.
Among the gloriously alive and astonishing human beings who were plugged into the southern Ontario climbing scene during all or part of the late 1970s were: Clean Dan Grandusky, George Manson, Mike Tschipper, Rob Rohn, Dave Lanman, Sean Lewis, Steve Langley, Peter Turner, Steve Lanman, Kevin Lawlor and a host of others. Most of these guys [Danny, George Manson, Dave Lanman, Mike Tschipper for sure] would work and save during April to October and then get themselves down to Yosemite during the winter months to climb their asses off.
What an amazing gang.
I can see all of their faces right now ... youthful and laughing, so totally authentic and real ... as though those unforgettable times at Rattlesnake and beautiful Bon Echo were just last week.
When I first met him in early summer of 1976, Danny was already quite solid leading 5.9, a level which was utterly mind-blowing to someone like me who had just discovered climbing fairly recently.
But Danny would say, with this huge grin: "hey, do you want to climb the route ???" where "???" was some random route he chose which often turned out to be quite a reach for a relative novice. But it was always impossible to resist his enthusiasm, his friendly energy and his welcoming invitation ... even if I did usually end up thrashing on his choice of route ... most of the time. Dan was coming up from Buffalo to Rattlesnake practically every weekend, but since he was climbing harder than I, I only got to climb with him a half-dozen times during the period 1976-1978, before he went out west sometime around late 1978.
However I did get to swap stories with him much more often and listen to his hysterically funny anecdotes, when climbing was over for the day, and believe me ... that was a trip and a half!
Clean Dan was one of the most memorable, warm, welcoming, entertaining, funny, alive and authentic people I have ever met.
I should say "is" instead of "was" because he lives forever in my memory and he always will.
Oh yeah ... what about the nickname "Clean Dan"? He had that when I met him in early summer 1976. It was because Dan had a strong sense of being honest with routes and climbing it clean, without hanging on pieces or aiding. And he wasn't shy about explaining how important that was to anyone ... not in an oppressive way, but more like an earnest serious mini-course on climbing ethics. Clean Dan was totally ok with falling on the gear, which was somewhat terrifying to me at the time, and he was willing to fall repeatedly until he nailed it and made it go free and clean.
Rest in peace, Danny.
And thanks so much for doing what you did best, which was to be totally your SELF and to give that to everyone.
I just KNOW you are somewhere around right here, not far away at all, telling uproarious stories to other kindred spirits, and making them roll on the "ground" with laughter.
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Ginateee
Trad climber
New Paltz, NY
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Feeling deeply nostalgic, planning a memorial for Dave Lanman.....
Oh my! I'm struck by emotion.In 1989-90 I lived in "Dan's" house on Old Stage Rd, outside of Boulder, CO, on the steep road to Jamestown. I moved from New Paltz, NY with Steve Lanman, RIP, who I later married, on an adventurous relocation in my 20's, in 1989, wow! It was a lifetime ago. Actually, it seems now many lives have passed, Steve,
and Dave Lanman....so, lifetimes ago.
"Clean Dan, the window man" welcomed us to rent a huge bedroom, with a private bathroom, balcony overlooking Boulder from the north. We couldn't pass it up, fulfilling my road cycling passion, living ON a famous grueling hill climb, & we loved the proximity to world class rock & ice climbing.
I remember when we first moved in. Dan had gotten us jobs for the weekend working The Great American Beer Festival. Yes, an early national micro-brewery trade show, fun! We would restock cases of beer from a storage room to individual vendors. At the end of the event, we filled 2 pick up trucks with a ton of beer. We had cases stacked in the living room, hallway, kitchen for months....eventually depleting the cache.
Clean Dan knew how to live, especially at the time. He was our greatest resource, acclimating us to our new Boulder dwelling. We socialized & climbed with Dan & Marion Hilderbrandt, Peyton & Henry Lester, Morris Hershoff was around too.
Dan's dog was a Chow Chow named Shanghai. He would always sing around the house, "Shanghai was a dog....Shanghai was a strange dog," to a sweet melody, that is in my head to this day whenever I hear that name.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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I can see all of their faces right now ... youthful and laughing, so totally authentic and real ... as though those unforgettable times at Rattlesnake and beautiful Bon Echo were just last week.
I can't read this without crying...but good tears. Clean Dan Grandusky, George Manson, Mike Tschipper, Rob Rohn, Dave Lanman, Sean Lewis... I knew all of them. All but Rob Rohn and Mike Tschipper are gone, and last I heard, years ago, Mike was in a mental institution.
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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What a great thread- I never met Dan but I feel like I met him a hundred times on the road, on the water , on the crag. RIP.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Several - particularly Greg, Roy, and Perry - asked about Mike Tschipper. Here is something he wrote, from the 1999 Canadian Alpine Journal (page 65).
Mike’s Story (Mike Tschipper)
(Preface) In early winter this year, I [the editor] received a letter from Ernst Tschipper, the father of one of the finest climbers in the country during the 1970s. His son Mike was an Ontario climber who was part of a group of young guys dramatically pushing our national standards on rock, big-wall and alpine climbs. They were the Canadian equivalent of the legendary Stonemasters of California: hard men, powerful and revolutionary in their achievements.
I realized, after getting Mr. Tschipper’s letter, that I hadn’t heard Mike’s name for many years. I knew that several of his compatriots were still around, still climbing hard, but Mike seemed to have disappeared.
Mr. Tschipper’s letter clarified what happened: Since 1982, Mike has been hospitalized with an incurable illness. He hasn’t climbed since 1982, has never really worked again, and requires daily care. His father mentioned, however, that Mike still gets the CAJ and keeps his connections to his mountain heart that way.
I asked Mr. Tschipper if Mike might be able to tell something of his story; a few weeks later, Mike sent this note and the attached poems. — ed.
I first saw mountains when I was eight years old. The place was Switzerland. It was a warm summer day when they came into view as we were driving deeper into the country and got closer to the Swiss Alps. That was one of the most exciting moments of my life. During that summer of 1969, we actually climbed some of those mountains, and they were etched into my mind forever.
Then, in 1972, I took another vacation to Switzerland. I was 11 years old, and my dad and I climbed some more mountains. Of course these were quite easy, all having well-marked trails to the top, but I climbed them.
When I was 15 and had finished junior high, we once again flew to Switzerland for a summer vacation. That time, I bought a book by Chris Bonington and that was it — enough waiting! I read and reread the book; I was hooked.
The moment we returned to Canada, I joined the Toronto Section of the Alpine Club of Canada. One day in that fall of 1976, I met Rob Rohn on a bus to Rattlesnake Point. Rob had also become a member of the Toronto Section, and together we set about the task of conquering the limestone crags along the Niagara Escarpment. What a thrill it was climbing with Rob. He was a lot stronger and easily tired me out on some tough and tougher routes. In all my climbing years, I was never able to outdo his strength, but I tagged along nicely.
We both slowly developed strength and style. Rob was constantly working out at the gym, running and doing pull-ups, but I suppose I was a bit lazy, never going further than keeping my fingers strong by using a hand clamp. Every weekend during that fall of ‘76, we went to Rattlesnake Point — even on rainy days, hoping it would clear up in the afternoon.
Then Dave Lanman came along. In 1977, I turned 16 and Dave was only 15, but he was doing harder climbs than me. He was a natural-born climber: very slim, not too tall, and light. I got along well with Dave, and we climbed many, many routes together. My motivation for climbing grew; I just wanted to be the best at it.
We even climbed through the winter that year, just waiting for the warm days, and with every time out we slowly got more and more proficient at the game.
In the summer of 1977, we moved on to the 300-foot cliffs of Bon Echo Provincial Park, about 180 miles northeast of Toronto. We stayed at the beautiful ACC hut there, and things were looking pretty good. We made great leaps forward in our climbing skills as we “soared” into the 5.9 grades, pretty good for the time.
That summer, we climbed all the hard routes — Mother Fletcher’s Overhang (5.9), The Joke — and classics like Sweet Dreams (5.8) and The Entertainer (5.9).
Rob went to Yosemite that same summer and wrote back to me tales of getting totally pumped out on difficult 5.11 cracks, using only fingers and feet to grasp with. I must admit I was a bit jealous. In my entire climbing career, I was never able to go beyond a 5.11d climb.
While Rob went west to California’s Yosemite Valley, I went east to Newfoundland. I was with a couple of high-school teachers exploring 1000-foot cliffs along the western shore of the island. Together we made a few first ascents, though nothing harder than 5.7. It sure rained enough, and we argued about things and ran out of money. We climbed Mount Gros Morne and did a bit of sea-stack climbing.
But all I really wanted to do was go rock jocks were hanging out. When Rob returned from Yosemite, we spent many warm afternoons together dreaming about Yosemite and practising at Rattlesnake Point for the really big routes.
In 1978, I was 17 and almost ready to quit high school. By June I was on a Greyhound bus — direction: Yosemite Valley, California, the greatest rock-climbing area in the world. We climbed many routes in the Valley that summer, and I managed to do my first multi-day climb, the South Face of Washington Column. It wasn’t a very serious climb, but I was learning.
In the summer, it becomes incredibly hot in the Valley, so a fellow climber from Toronto, George Manson, was able to convince us to go on a “mini-expedition” away from the searing heat. This escape would also include Tom Gibson from San Diego, Rob Rohn and me. The destination: the Cirque of the Unclimbables.
We spent about three weeks in this lush alpine setting, and it took many rainy days of waiting for the chance to get at our goal: the Lotus Flower Tower. We eventually made the first free Canadian ascent of this wall. It took only two days to climb, and at the time it was considered quite a feat by Canadian standards.
The next year, 1979, was a pretty good year; I was growing up, and so were all of my climbing buddies. We were climbing at a high standard, things were pretty cool, and we succeeded on climbs. Yes, I remember 1979. I was doing another multi-day climb, again on Washington Column, but it was hot — very hot. We ran out of water after one day, and I just about passed out at the top after almost two days without water. I nearly promised myself I would never climb again, but after drinking about a gallon of water on the easy way down, I was convinced it was only going to get better.
A few days after the water incident, I was teamed up with John Stoddard, an American, to try the Salathe Wall on El Cap. It took us three days to climb the Salathe route — pretty good speed in those days.
A bit later, I left the Valley for summer work in Germany. After working for nine weeks, I travelled and attempted some climbs, including a very difficult ice route up a steep face on Mont Blanc, most likely a first for a Canadian. I also made an attempt on the North Face of the Eiger, but my partner was hit by falling rocks while still on easy ground — probably a stroke of good luck for both of us. We were smart enough to lower off.
I came back to Canada and got myself a job as a service-station attendant. That was it! I was out of high school forever.
Everyone on our team were still climbing: Dave Lanman, George Manson, Rob Rohn, Steve Labelle (a really funny guy). During the winter months, we became more active in ice climbing as well as rock climbing, practising for the big ice routes out west in the Rockies. What a bunch of climbing bums we were turning into!
In the spring of 1980, I went with Rob to Colorado — where we made the first Canadian ascent of the Naked Edge — and then on to Yosemite. After spending a few weeks in the Valley, we made our way back to Canada and arrived in the Bugaboos by August. There we heard over the radio that our buddies George Manson, Al Chase, Dave Carrol and Sean Lewis had gone missing on the Cassin Ridge on Denali. It came as quite a shock. Four of our buddies had disappeared without a sign.
I continued to return to Yosemite over the next two years, making ascents of Electric Ladyland and The Zodiac and doing the second ascent of South Pacific on El Cap. I also returned to the Bugaboos, where we completed the first free ascent of the East Face of Bugaboo Spire.
In August 1982, I was rock climbing in Squamish again and I took a hit of LSD. The next day, I began to hear voices. Several months later, I was diagnosed with schizophrenia. Now, 17 years later, I live in a special-care home in Newmarket, Ontario. I take daily medication. I have a blood test every two weeks.
It really amazes me to see how the standards have risen in rock climbing, in ice climbing, and in big-wall climbing in places like Pakistan and Baffin Island. When I look back at some of the days we had almost two decades ago, it makes me happy. I am happy for the fact that I got into the sport on rock, ice and mountains, and I remember the bliss I felt then. Even though I am mentally ill now, my climbing can still make me feel good about myself. I had the mountains in my life for six years, and they are with me forever.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Thanks MH. This thread is ST gold
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Wow, thanks for that, Anders! That totally makes my day. I can picture Mike so clearly as a 17 year old in Yosemite Valley. Such a nice kid, quiet, like Rob.
Below is a painting that Clean Dan always had hanging prominently in his bedroom. It had always moved me, and is the one thing that I asked for after his death. I can stare at this for long periods of time. Been here and gone -- Danny, George, Sean, Dave and so many others.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Just to remind the reader of one of many connections between Clean Dan and one Mike Tschipper.
Mar 7, 2006 - 06:52am PT -- Leroy wrote.
Danny discovered u could pry open the display window of the 4seasons restaurant.Inside was a bunch of climbing gear.One night ,drunk,danny some Poway mountain boys???? and canadian rifraf ??? stole it all and got cold busted driving around the loop.Spent the weekend in jail.got off with time served.Pretty lucky.
To which I wrote.
Incarcerated in the Yosemite jail by order of Judge Pitts circa 1978:
"Clean Dan" Grandusky (ambassador of good will - ringleader)
Tom Gibson (poway mountain boy - was at the wrong place at the wrong time)
Mike Tschipper, George Manson (canadian riff-raff).
If not for Mike Tschipper throwing one of the stolen boots out of the getaway car (onto the street and leaving the matching one in the car), they might have gotten away. Driving the wrong way on the one-way loop, perhaps, also lead to their ultimate capture.
One can't help but think that the world would have been safer if these hooligans had gotten longer sentences.
Those were more innocent times, like Gilligan's Island or something.
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Dickbob
climber
Westminster Colorado
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Oct 28, 2018 - 07:03am PT
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Here is Dan's memorial bench in Eldo and the view you have from it.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Oct 28, 2018 - 08:32am PT
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Okay, who remembers that Dan could recite at will, from memory, some rather long passages from the work of James Joyce?
I'd like to know specifically, was it from Jabberwocky? Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner, or perhaps the introduction from Ulysses?
I'd like to be able to cite that specifically for a small piece I'm writing.
Been Here and Gone! It's been a long time since I've thought of that artwork.
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Crump
Social climber
Canyon Lake, Texas
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Oct 28, 2018 - 10:07am PT
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I first met Clean Dan on the upper meadow of T2 in Eldo. Mike Head and I had just done Vertigo Direct and were walking off to the raps and we ran into Dan and his gang. It quickly turned into a party with me breaking out some Texas out of the zipper pocket on my chalk bag.
It felt like magic and the making of friends for life. We hung out for more than an hour chatting and hangin up on the wall.
RIP Clean Dan.
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Todd Eastman
Social climber
Putney, VT
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Oct 28, 2018 - 11:51am PT
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I met Dan in the 1970s when he would hitch up to the Adirondacks for winter hiking and rock climbing. He was learning the sport and had that tremendous energy we all remember him with.
I later let him stay at my house when he arrived in Boulder in 1979. He got settled in at Maple St. on the Hill in a huge top floor of an apartment building. He then started accumulating stuff upon stuff, each object worthy of its own story.
Dan began to climb better and better and made many friends in the area with his charisma and dedication to climbing and living life as large as possible.
I moved back East for a decade and when I returned to Boulder in the early-90s, Dan was climbing really well and living at that monster palace on Stage Coach Rd. We got together occasionally but the dope he enjoyed made me uncomfortable and we drifted different directions.
I have great memories of Dan and his huge energy. He remained that same kid from Buffalo with the world at his fingertips...
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Dickbob
climber
Westminster Colorado
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Oct 28, 2018 - 06:53pm PT
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Gnome. No sweat. Not easy getting to that bench. Perfect spot for reflection.
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Mike Honcho
Trad climber
Glenwood Springs, CO
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Oct 28, 2018 - 07:45pm PT
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1994-ish, Alan Lester and I were almost out of Boulder to go try and repeat the Southern Belle on Halfdome. On our way out of town we ran into Dan at a coffee shop, gave him a short version of what our plan was and he screamed and ran to his car. He returns with a #3 Lowe Ballnut and swears we "have to have it and it'll save our life"..
We get there and do everything necessary to give the climb a whirl. On the 8th pitch I ran it out 80' to a dike and could only manage to find a small flake for exactly a #3 Lowe Ballnut and some kind of small TCU. 40' later I took the whipper of my life, 80'-90' and if either of those pieces had popped I would have fallen another 160' of vertical slidey bouncey down Halfdome and straight onto the belay.. The 2 pieces were so close together they were on a single sling, Dan's Ballnut was the intitial piece. Loved that crazy man.
Caylor
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 28, 2018 - 10:44pm PT
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hey there say dickbob... wow, i had not see this...
will read and learn about him...
thank you for sharing...
and, how very special-- his own bench...
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JTBach
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 23, 2018 - 08:51pm PT
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I was a housemate (in Buffalo and Boulder) and climbing partner with Dan mostly in the late 70s and 1980. He introduced me to the Ontario and Lake Placid crews of the late 70s. On visits to Colorado after that I’d always drop in on him and spend time. Living in the same house and climbing with him led to some memorable times, sometimes good, sometimes not so much. And on these occasions we were equally culpable.
The first time I remember the latter happening was when I was studying for an exam in our house in Buffalo. Dan had a huge record (real vinyl) collection; just about the biggest I’ve ever seen. And he played them often, including when I studied. On this occasion I asked him to turn it down some, but he kept putting me off and putting me off and kept on listening to it loud, and I got more and more frustrated. So I ran into his room jumped as high as I could so I could land as hard as possible on his wood floor. I got to listen to the needle of his turntable bounce across the record. He looked at me with his mouth open, said I was insane, but then he finally turned down his stereo.
One of our housemates in Buffalo worked in a hospital and somehow he was able to obtain an industrial size tank of nitrous oxide. When that got opened I really learned about Dan’s taste for altering his consciousness. Without telling anybody about the tank or inviting anyone over we ended up with a houseful of people every night until the tank was empty. Dan would imbibe by filling a garbage bag full of nitrous and then putting his head into the bag and just kept breathing the contents. Once when he kept his head in the bag a bit too long he collapsed, bounced his head off the coffee table and fell to the floor. In a minute or so he regained consciousness and asked, “Why does my head hurt”.
On one trip to the Gunks we climbed together and progressively got more and more frustrated at each other’s behavior. One the last climb of the day, CCK, this finally led to a screaming match before the third pitch over who would climb the crux. It got so loud that his girl friend at the time heard us going at it down on the carriage road and left because she couldn’t take it anymore.
On my first trip to the Adirondacks with Dan and some other friends we came out of the mountains on New Year’s Eve. We decided to celebrate at a bar that was located in an old barn. There was a lot of milling around at the door, but suddenly a small group of guys pushed their way through the door. Upon seeing this we attached ourselves to the back of this group and walked right in. Turned out they were the band coming back from break, so we made it in without paying a cover. The cover included free champagne for the night, but instead of waiting at the bar for a glass, Dan hung out by the door to the storage room and pulled bottles out of the cases that the staff were bringing to the bar. We had all the champagne we wanted.
During one visit to Boulder I wanted to climb the South Face of the Petit Grepon. Dan was willing, but wanted to drive up to the park late in the night before. I had never been in this part of the park before, but Dan said he was tired and insisted that I drive his pickup. I ended up taking a number of wrong turns and we ended up at the parking area at about 2 AM. To avoid rangers, we slept beneath a plywood slab that lay on top of the wheel wells in the back of the truck. Between the frustration of getting lost on the drive, the claustrophobia of sleeping in a space about 18-24” high, and anticipation of the climb ahead I got no sleep. About halfway up the route we started arguing. First it was about his clearing the ledges of loose rocks by just pushing them off, then it was arguing who would climb which pitches. We finally calmed down on the raps off the summit and the hike back to the truck, but I think that was the last time I climbed with him.
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hacky47
Trad climber
goldhill
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Dec 23, 2018 - 10:07pm PT
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Love these stories.... thanks everyone
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Dec 24, 2018 - 11:32am PT
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JTBach!
This is classic Clean Dan stuff you've trotted out.
It's a testament to the zany, loving nature of Dan Grandusky that people such as yourself, all these years on now, are still logging on to this forum, in your case for the first time, with such great stories of our fallen comrade. Thanks for your candor. Nothing but the unedited, unvarnished truth really does the man justice.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Dec 24, 2018 - 11:40am PT
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Okay, so Jabberwocky is Lewis Carroll, Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner is Coleridge, Ulysses was James Joyce.
I'm sure Dan knew them all well. He had a fabulous book collection. But asking once more, I'm pretty sure he knew some James Joyce by heart and could recite it.
I think it was the opening to Finnegan’s Wake.
Can anyone please confirm this for me?
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JTBach
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 24, 2018 - 05:56pm PT
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Yes, Dan could recite Joyce by heart. Usually Not whole books, but much more than many of his friends and house mates in Buffalo really wanted to hear. I think Ulysses was his favorite. As a previous poster mentioned he took part in, and may have actually organized, a marathon reading of Ulysses on campus. Don't remember his knowledge of Caroll. He also spouted passages from Melville regularly, especially Mobey Dick.
Another part of Dan that has been mentioned before was his generosity. One of these ways was allowing friends to crash at his house for extended periods of time. By the time I finished school in Buffalo Dan had already moved to Boulder and was living on Pennsylvania Ave. on the hill. It took me awhile to decide what I wanted to do after leaving Buffalo, but eventually made my way to Boulder. He let me crash there for about two months until Steve Dieckhoff moved out, at which point I rented Steve's old room. I think some of Dan's peculiarities just rubbed Steve the wrong way. While I was there many climbers from near and far also crashed in the house. Four or five of the Ontario crew stayed a couple weeks. Buck Tilley was also a regular at the house when he was between gigs.
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capseeboy
Social climber
portland, oregon
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Dec 24, 2018 - 08:02pm PT
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What a great gift. Thank you Santa!
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Faulensee
Social climber
Toronto
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Hi Everyone, I just wanted to respond to some comments about Mike Tschipper, my brother. He's still alive and living in a group home within walking distance of historic Newmarket. Our parents tragically died in a car accident June 2003 so my sister and I have been making sure he's well taken care of, take him out to lunch and have him over for holiday meals etc. A year and a half ago we made a trip out to B.C. and Alberta with Mike, as well as with my youngest brother who lives in Saanich, and Mike enjoyed going down memory lane. He has a phenomenal memory and can recite the year and month of each climb and all the details. If anyone wants to drop him a line his email is chipperdip@hotmail.com. He'd be thrilled to reminisce about his brief but glorious climbing days.
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Dear Faulensee:
Your dear Brother has a simple, honest and transparent way of explaining what climbing means to him. Somehow, I was touched by how sweet, grateful and open he is. I really enjoyed reading his post and found it inspiring in a subtle way.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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May 10, 2019 - 08:39am PT
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Hey thanks for the email address, Faulensee! I'll be writing him.
Greg Cameron
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