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BooDawg
Social climber
Polynesian Paradise
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 22, 2010 - 06:47am PT
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In the late, 90’s the NPS and the concessionaire planned to develop the “Sunnyside Campground” area into an expanded Yosemite Lodge. Tom Frost was instrumental in spearheading the efforts of many people to protect the climbers’ camp by placing it on the National Historic Register and putting pressure on the NPS to do another planning effort. This resulted in the protection of the climbers’ campground and returning to it its traditional name, Camp 4.
Coincidently, my niece got married in the Bay Area the weekend before this Reunion, so I came from Hawaii for both events and drove with Guido from Santa Cruz to the Valley. The photo session took place in the afternoon in Camp 4.
Camp 4 Dedication, Yosemite 9/25/99-Photo Session
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-82DUbtHo&feature=related
There were many more group and individual photos taken that afternoon, but these were the pictures that came out the best of those that I took.
The evening program took place that evening in the Lower River Amphitheater.
Camp 4 Dedication, Yosemite 9/25/99-Part 1:
Introduction of the dignitaries and people involved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUpuW1qUPBQ&feature=related
Camp 4 Dedication, Yosemite 9/25/99-Part 2:
Jerry Anderson’s gift of the Camp 4 sign replica to the NPS &
Tom Frost’s account of what happened to preserve C4 and why.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLkVC7ne8h0&feature=related
Camp 4 Dedication, Yosemite 9/25/99-Part 3:
Dignitaries Speak. TM Herbert’s Reunion with Tom Frost.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxReR6rE3fc&feature=related
Camp 4 Steck, Robbins, Chouinard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk0G77VWxiQ
As the gathering was breaking up and Guido and I walked back to the car, I heard one climber tell his friend, "We should do this every year." Now it seems as tho his wish has come true.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Oct 22, 2010 - 08:50am PT
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Gee Ken, incredibly good photos! I think you can leave your day job now! I am sure many of us here will be grateful to see them and enjoy how good they are, how much you have been able to capture not only of that historic day but of the overall goodness---optimism--- of our group. What a stunning pile of humanity. Just look at all these characters, some about to leave us, all still "going for it" and so thrilled to be together! Still remembering , many still holding the torch.
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hooblie
climber
from where the anecdotes roam
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Oct 22, 2010 - 08:54am PT
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much respect, and many thanks. like time in a bottle.
i marvel at the power of just a handfull with vision,
including the ones that shined the light
so the government could see
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steveA
Trad climber
bedford,massachusetts
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Oct 22, 2010 - 10:09am PT
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Thanks for sharing that. Climbed with 4 of those guys, way back then. I did climb with Donini last week in Indian Creek. He's still cranking at 76. The photo's are classic!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 22, 2010 - 10:12am PT
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Jesus Christ Steve! I'm 67 not 76.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 22, 2010 - 10:15am PT
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The greatest collection of old farts in the history of Yosemite!
Great stuff Boo!
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matty
Trad climber
los arbor
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Oct 22, 2010 - 12:39pm PT
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Thanks Boo, I always enjoy your posts,from early days at stoney to the buttermilks to C4. Pleasure to read/view.
Matt
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BooDawg
Social climber
Polynesian Paradise
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2010 - 01:50pm PT
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Thanks, everyone for your kind words. Thanks also for links to other related threads. I KNEW there had to be another thread on here devoted to that event, but after searching the Forum under several different key words, I came up with zip, so here this is.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Oct 22, 2010 - 02:23pm PT
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love a good recap!
it's funny that I find that the fact that I'm not at all the climbing gatherings, entirely consistent with being a climber, moreover that the climbing brethren understands this principal implicitly. Yet it doesn't mean we don't like going to a good party. :)
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Oct 22, 2010 - 02:41pm PT
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Thank you for this thread!
A lot of us needed to see something positive for a change.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Oct 22, 2010 - 03:08pm PT
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Best thread in a L O N G time!
For some reason that pic of Robbins chatting with Pratt almost makes me cry. Those guys were effin bold and the memories they shared would last countless lifetimes. Man I wish I could have been at this meet and I REALLY wish I could have climbed with Pratt...
Of course I would have cowered under his leads.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Oct 22, 2010 - 03:34pm PT
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Boopooch, Supertopo was begun that same year. Rec.climbing was still the happen' chick on that event.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Oct 22, 2010 - 03:47pm PT
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Ken,
The best guess on "Who?" in your first photo from the end of the 2007 "historical photos" thread was Mike Sherrick.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Oct 22, 2010 - 03:52pm PT
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Thanks for posting this. Really great stuff.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
SoCal
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Oct 22, 2010 - 04:37pm PT
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A Pantheon.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Oct 22, 2010 - 05:19pm PT
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Ken, it was so awesome to meet you and Guido this summer. What talented, gifted and hilarious guys you are.
The attorney that Frost hired to fight for Camp 4 stayed at Tioga Pass Resort this summer. Great stories he had to tell as well.
Super Grate Thread ! Thanks !
Oh and Donini, it was equally fun talking with you in Salt Lake this summer. Trust me dude, you don't look 67 much less 76 :DD
Cheers, lynnie
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BooDawg
Social climber
Polynesian Paradise
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2010 - 05:41pm PT
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Clint: I don't think that was Mike Sherrick, and I don't think he attended that gathering. I would have recognized him there and gotten an individual portrait of him as I did many others whom I know while we were just hanging out around Columbia Boulder. The same guy shows up in one of the videos to which I posted links up-thread, but I don't think his name came up on it. He's a fairly short guy... Maybe when Guido sees the pic, he'll know... Or maybe it's over on the Historical Photos thread.
I'm gonna go throught the Historical Photos thread to which Anders posted a link and see if he's named there, and in the first 60 postings there that I've read so far, there are some questions to which I have answers tho perhaps someone else has answered them down-thread from there.
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Gene
Social climber
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Oct 22, 2010 - 06:19pm PT
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BooDawg,
Thanks so very much for your photos. This is great stuff!
g
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Oct 22, 2010 - 07:40pm PT
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Boopoch, I am fairly certain it is Harry Daley. He was at the Reunion and I actually talked to him for awhile. Eccentric, vigorous.
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BooDawg
Social climber
Polynesian Paradise
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2010 - 12:47am PT
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I think you are right, Peter; Harry is/was short and solidly built like our guy here.
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Abenda
climber
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Oct 23, 2010 - 01:15am PT
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Are these the last photos of Harding ... so sad
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 23, 2010 - 02:01am PT
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All this, and no photo of the Camp 4 plaque. Well, that's easily fixed.
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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Oct 23, 2010 - 02:14am PT
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PH- "I am fairly certain it is Harry Daley."
If you listen to BooDawg's 1st video link "Camp 4 Dedication...". At 2:57 you will here the photographer(i presume) instructing him(Mr. Who?)to come forward. "Paul, come forward just a little bit, that's good...!". Therefor his name is "Paul"...me thinks!
Regardless, this is a priceless thread, thanks million's BooDawg!
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Oct 23, 2010 - 07:09pm PT
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Boo/Clint/Haanster
That is most certainly not either Sherrick or Daly.
At the time of the photo it was a mystery to all who the guy was? I remember mystery man getting anything and everything he could carry autographed so I figured he was going to cash in someday on the gathering.
Daly was at the Reunion but I don't recall seeing Sherrick.
cheers
Guido
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crunch
Social climber
CO
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Oct 23, 2010 - 08:48pm PT
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Beautiful photos, Boodawg. Thanks.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Oct 23, 2010 - 09:40pm PT
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Abenda, no there are later photos but yes these are only 18 months before Warren was gone...poignant. And also we see John Bachar in the video, gone 10 years later.
Guido, I searched the Yosemite Climbs excel spreadsheet for Pauls. There are a bunch but all of them are modern era, 1980's and later, oddly...the only Paul I can think of from the old days was Paul Burner (sp?). I think you knew him too. It would be 47 years since I saw him though. This is what I think our Harry Daley looks like--- it is a Harry Daley from the internet and looks like the Harry Daley I talked to at the Reunion in the dark...
and doesn't look like our "Paul". However where IS Harry Daley in the photos? He did make it to the talks that night; that was when I spoke with him.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Oct 23, 2010 - 10:06pm PT
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{sigh} I'm soooo sorry I missed this! My partner Jon Fox climbed through the night, with me shivering on my ledge belaying and trying to stay warm under a couple coil of ropes, and we ran down the East Ledges the next day. We were told that the event was taking place at Tamarack Flat and blasted up there, only to find it empty. Sheesh.
I bought the video as a consolation. The best part was that Warren Harding got the most applause - by far.
Thanks for the amazing photos!
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Oct 24, 2010 - 12:31am PT
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Ah yes Mr Peter that is indeed Harry Daly-famous for his yodel-" Bung.......... yo oh lo et teeeeeeee.
Great guy and big part of the original S Cal group. Also a very talented photographer. Now that would be a coup to get him on here with his vast portfolio.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 24, 2010 - 12:40am PT
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hey there say, BooDawg.... oh my! ... such wonderful pics and all, shared here... wonderful group-history, at that!
thank you so very very kindly! ...
god bless...
:)
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BooDawg
Social climber
Polynesian Paradise
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2010 - 03:43am PT
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Lynnie, Thank you for your ever so kind words; Guido and I VERY MUCH enjoy our extended conversation with you and Julia at TPR.
Thanks to all who expressed their appreciation for these photos. I’ve been wanting to post them for a long time.
Abenda: there are certainly later pix of Harding, but you got me thinking, “Did Harding ever return to C4 or the Valley after this event? Mary Lou Long and Roger Derryberry would know. But the phone # they gave me in Bishop during Labor Day doesn’t take messages. Maybe Lauria could get them to call or email me. Roger prides hisself on staying un-connected to the world electronically. Anybody else know or have later photos of Harding in C4 than these? On the chance that this was the last time he was in the Valley, here are a couple more:
MH: Thanks for posting the plaque picture. I didn’t know it was there or I’d have gone to see it this past summer.
Peter & Guido: I agree that Peter's pic is Harry Daley; and yes, we was a VERY cool dude, just being in his presence made me smile.
I’m not sure what else we can do to figure out the “mystery man.” If the guy who was making the video mentioned his name as “Paul”, and we could figure out who made the video… On the other hand, if he was just an imposter, not a 50’s, 60’s or 70’s climber, as seems more & more like the case, maybe it doesn’t matter. If he were into a stunt for the attention he’d receive, perhaps it’s best to just ignore him.
Here are a few more pix just to keep things lively here... I posted this one on the Historical Photos thread, but hey, let's have more feminine energy in the climbing world!
And a few more:
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 24, 2010 - 04:05am PT
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Nice thread, Ken. I love this stuff.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Oct 24, 2010 - 10:37am PT
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Booch, the videographer is Chris Falkenstein, our "CF" here. Unfortunately an avatar two characters long doesn't search here. We call him, "Fall" by the way, at least bitd.
http://yosemitestock.com/contact
Plus this "Paul" is right alongside Lauria and others we know. Plus Booch, you haven't said a THING about Lizard's new hairdo!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 24, 2010 - 12:22pm PT
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Ken, the plaque is about 10 m east of Columbia Boulder, beside the 'upper' path through Camp 4. Not far from the base of Midnight Lightning.
The plaque for Raffi Bedayan is at the base of the large tree near the SE corner of the boulder, but I don't think I have a photo of it.
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BooDawg
Social climber
Polynesian Paradise
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2011 - 06:43am PT
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It's Friday night, and I'm sipping on OJ, Mango Juice and Spiced Rum, and since I can't drive to a crag, I thought I'd post some pix as part of my moving project.
I am going through my pix trying to decide what to bring to CA with my scanner, so I can continue to put up new stuff while I'm in the Yosemite area. Looking through these again, there are some choice ones I didn't post on the first round, and it's winter there, so here are some others from the same afternoon... So here's a bump!
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PhilG
Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
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BooDawg:
I believe that is Gene Foley on the left and that sure looks like George Myers' smile.
Thanks for the post and the bump. What a fine collection of handsome photos of some truly great people.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Yeah, Phil, definitely, Gene Foley.
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BooDawg
Social climber
Polynesian Paradise
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2011 - 11:57am PT
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Thanks, Phil and Peter! I'm gonna edit that caption...
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Nice pictures of some old friends and climbing partners. Nice posts Ken.
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JOEY.F
Social climber
sebastopol
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Just crusing thru, I want to grow up to be just like them.
Great!
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PhilG
Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
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Hey, does anybody know how to get in touch with Gene Foley? Anyone know what's become of him?
Phil
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WBraun
climber
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Phil
Last time I saw him (G Foley) he was living in Daly City, Calif, south of San Francisco.
He is heavy into hang gliding.
He must still be there from the info on this web page. (scroll down untill you see his name)
http://www.flyfunston.org/gallery.php
Gene is the original inventor of the "Bird Beak" way back in the early 70's.
P.S. How is Jon doing in Patagonia?
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john hansen
climber
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I was thinking the same thing Tami,,
Maybe Boodog could start another thread with that photo and see how many of them can be identified.
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PhilG
Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
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Thanks, Werner. I'll check it out. It would be great to get together with him.
Jon's doing OK. They have been hammered by the weather, but the forecast is for some improvement.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Thanks boo dog for the pictures...Excellent....Didn't know what an older harding looked like...Tami...That's Margaret Clevenger , back row , on the right with reddish hair....
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Maysho
climber
Soda Springs, CA
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Tami, I got a few more.
Back Row starting in the middle: Lynnea Anderson, Sigrid Anderson, Alison Osius, Margaret Clevenger.
Front Row from Left: Peggy Bridwell, unkown, unknown, Liz Robbins, unknown, Sybille Hechtel, Debbie (formerly Brossman, now Burton)
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Feb 27, 2011 - 04:05pm PT
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Bump
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jul 26, 2011 - 09:07pm PT
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Bump of Fame!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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I remember that day. I was up on the Sheild. It was either meet all those folks or climb el-cap for me. Tough call really
Ended up bailing from triple cracks ..someone sent up the chopper when I was reversing the roof. We sent them home and took care of ourselves just fine. Mebbe one those famous folks called it on us. :)
Anyway I bet we made for at least a couple conversations among the crowd. lol
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 16, 2016 - 05:44am PT
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Bump.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Mar 15, 2019 - 03:47am PT
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bump for a good time
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 15, 2019 - 07:55am PT
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Thanks for the bump...sad to see how many are not still with us.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Mar 15, 2019 - 07:48pm PT
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Thanks for sharing your priceless images of some lovely humans. Amazing how things have changed in the last 10 years . . . enjoy the moments while they last folks.
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D Murph
climber
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Mar 16, 2019 - 08:32am PT
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That gathering was awesome. And I'm not even old like the rest of you.
Aside: Sometime thereabouts I was at the base of Manure Pile and got to see TM float the first pitch of Nutcracker. We should all be so lucky to climb like that at that age. The best part was the laughter and smiles.
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11worth
Trad climber
Leavenworth & Greenwater WA
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Mar 16, 2019 - 07:21pm PT
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Donini, I was at the reunion and was thinking the same thing as i looked at this post and realized how many are gone.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 17, 2019 - 05:49am PT
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If you remember Camp 4 in the 70’s, you weren't there.
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Loyd
Big Wall climber
Roseburg, OR
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Mar 17, 2019 - 06:56am PT
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Those weree lots good times in yosemite I saw lots of good friends there.
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mastadon
Trad climber
crack addict
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Mar 17, 2019 - 07:52am PT
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“If you remember Camp 4 in the 70’s, you weren't there.”
Got that right. I was sorry I missed Woodstock in ‘69 (too young, too far away) but living in Camp 4 in the 70’s was like experiencing Woodstock every day for months at a time.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 17, 2019 - 11:03am PT
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What a novel approach it was...
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