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Tony Bird
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Northridge, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 30, 2010 - 09:12am PT
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i notice we're mostly californians on ST with some oregon and washington fringe.
pretty good wine country. we need to discuss this stuff.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Jun 30, 2010 - 09:23am PT
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the wine is gone.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2010 - 09:34am PT
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even the chuck?
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hooblie
climber
from where the anecdotes roam
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Jun 30, 2010 - 09:40am PT
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there's some crust in the bota bag...from concentrate anyone?
sorry. i think it was mulled wine,kept warm under parka. came from a little tasting room beneath the road, perched above the river in the gold country north of ynp, mid '70s. where was that, above china camp or something? tasty, thick burgundy with spices
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Jun 30, 2010 - 10:24am PT
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New Mexico also has some pretty fab vineyards and wineries.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Jun 30, 2010 - 10:31am PT
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hobblie you know of a tasting room beneath the road?
is it a cave, or a troll dwelling?
a good friend of mine farms in Apple Hill. he inherited his ranch from his grandfather.
UNDER their cabin is a cellar. you descend soft plank stairs into the earth and enter thru a wood slab door with a little stain glass window.
once in, there is a single decrepid light bulb hanging from the ceiling by a noose. pull the chain and have a seat at the small and lonely table in the middle. all the wine racks are empty. the stone foundation walls bear moss and somewhere in the corner, a drip drops.
the beams overhead are hand hewn and thus tell a thousand stories of love's hardship.
my good friend sorenson pulls a tap that sticks from the face of an old frigidaire. into two copper goblets flows his home-brewed barley wine.
we sit across the table and subtly change the coarse of mankind thru small talk.
eeking out an existence, i.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
SoCal
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Jun 30, 2010 - 11:06am PT
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The Gnarly Head Old Vine Zin 2007 is fine like an excellent 5.10b at Joshua Tree.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jun 30, 2010 - 11:36am PT
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Gnarly head from Lodi is good but Malibu family wines Zin is much more warmer!
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2010 - 11:50am PT
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take out the sulfite--use the troglodyte.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Jun 30, 2010 - 11:51am PT
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the last excellent 10b i did in josh was a todd gordon route dubbed,
"6-pack"
after thrashing over the lip and putting my partner on belay, i layed into the 6'er of brew that i had stashed in the shade of the chimney.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 01:03pm PT
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Let's talk about something more interesting, like Italian wines.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 30, 2010 - 01:17pm PT
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Let's talk about something more interesting, like Italian wines.
That conversation would likely be just you and me, talking to ourselves. And speaking of Italian wine, when are you and Masha coming over to help deal with that magnum of Barolo I put aside for you?
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 01:50pm PT
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Barolo? Is that good stuff? :^)
Ghost, What are you doing next week? I have Sunday off. Plus the usual Monday and Tuesday. I'll call you.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Jun 30, 2010 - 01:53pm PT
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This thread has body.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2010 - 01:55pm PT
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italy got into wine snobbery only recently after noticing the cash flow in france and california. italy has always made more wine than france, but they drink it fast and without fuss.
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Barbarian
Trad climber
The great white north, eh?
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Jun 30, 2010 - 02:02pm PT
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Adding some legs to this thread.
I am a CA Zinf man. Yes Gnarly Head is good. I had a 96 Rubicon Capts. Reserve a couple of weeks ago that was just coming into its own. Gonna get another couple of bottles of that and let it age a bit more. Nice.
So many other good wines in CA. Like 'em so much I've thought of buying a place in Amador County for my retirement. 20 acres or so. Just enough room....
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 30, 2010 - 02:09pm PT
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italy got into wine snobbery only recently after noticing the cash flow in france and california. italy has always made more wine than france, but they drink it fast and without fuss.
This makes exactly the same kind of sense, and is just as true/false as saying something like "americans are all fat. they eat macdonalds food and drink bad beer." Or to describe Californian wines as nothing but overpriced fruit bombs. Or any other simplistic generalization.
The history of wine making and wine consumption in Italy is long and varied. It includes over 2,000 years of both snobbery and guzzling, has a serious and a non-serious side, has been both focused on cash flow and not focused on cash-flow...
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 02:11pm PT
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Spot on Tony, the so called "Super Tuscans" are a prime example. On the other hand, a good number of producers are using modern methods and equipment and still maintaining traditional styles. So, when one buys a Chianti, there are two distinct styles they can come across, but mostly the traditional stuff stays in Italy.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Jun 30, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
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Adding some legs to this thread.
Paging Locker!
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malabarista
Trad climber
PA, then AZ, then CO, Now CA, soon OR
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Jun 30, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
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2 buck chuck. i'm glad i don't have expensive tastes
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 02:21pm PT
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I wish my tastes were not so expensive, but once you try the good stuff, it's hard to go back.
The thing that gets me is the value. I recently had some top end Washington wine at about fifty bucks a bottle. It was very good but typical: Lush fruit, soft tannins, lots of oak. For fifty bucks I could have gotten any number of unique, highly acclaimed Italian wines that would blow away the local stuff. This is true also on the lower end wines, with much more variety.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Jun 30, 2010 - 03:39pm PT
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on California wines in CA... bottle of 2005 Jordan on the Zodiac on top of the gray circle. pair that with some greenery and some sheesh and a can of Chef, and your life kicks ass.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Jun 30, 2010 - 03:52pm PT
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i had a binge a few years back where my snout was glued to the smart end of a space bag.
you see, i was denied the breast feeding opportunity in my infancy. so i could not crack my psychological connection to the wine bladder.
many hours spent on my back.
i would sort thru my vomit puddles, picking out the little pieces of hope and discarding all of the sorrow.
my favorite was cuvee blanc. the shite was so sweet. it joined me on my travels for a few years. Franzia was the vinyard, or rather the warehouse that produced this product. i not sure if it resided in california.
where did i put my thought?
if you find it, spend it well please.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2010 - 04:59pm PT
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i disobeyed my wife and spent $50 a couple times on inexpensive sauterne. the bin next door had it for $280. product of the "noble rot" fungus.
i smuggled one into alaska to pay off my fishing guide/brother and the other was fittingly consumed at a hollywood bowl performance of the sibelius violin concerto. after mariko tasted some, the rules changed.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Jun 30, 2010 - 05:23pm PT
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next thing you know P. Envy will be busting out freeze dried margaritas instead of the real deal.
n00b
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Babarian i like your sense!
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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based on my wine sense you gotta love the label!
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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UNDER their cabin is a cellar. you descend soft plank stairs into the earth and enter thru a wood slab door with a little stain glass window.
once in, there is a single decrepid light bulb hanging from the ceiling by a noose. pull the chain and have a seat at the small and lonely table in the middle. all the wine racks are empty. the stone foundation walls bear moss and somewhere in the corner, a drip drops.
the beams overhead are hand hewn and thus tell a thousand stories of love's hardship.
my good friend sorenson pulls a tap that sticks from the face of an old frigidaire. into two copper goblets flows his home-brewed barley wine.
we sit across the table and subtly change the coarse of mankind thru small talk.
eeking out an existence, i.
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Norwegian wrote that and I am telling him and the world right now that I'm stealing that passage for my own use, changing just enough to where people will think I wrote it and becoming all famous and sh#t in the process.
JL
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pc
climber
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I'm so lite...
I'm partial to Pinot Noir's from Santa Cruz mountain vineyards. David Bruce, et al.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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largo i would be honored by your thievery.
no doubt, according to your chivalry you would wear my thoughts much better than i.
for i am wont to fill the shoes of a socially obscure and destitute.
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hooblie
climber
from where the anecdotes roam
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^^^ that's nice to see! now, where ever that tasting room was, it's memory will bring a smile
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Pouring for Micheal David Winery at Bear Creek with the Cliff bar girls who were next to us.
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