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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 25, 2005 - 10:14pm PT
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Based on requests to see this bad big toenail, I post this photo. As you can see, the left foot big toeNAIL (edit: my bad) is still in it's early stages of coming off. It doesn't help that my nails are painted purple (with gold sparklies, thank you) so the black/blue beneath it isn't showing yet. Disappointing, I know. I'll post additional photos as this beast comes off.
I am disappointed I won't be able to yank it off and chew it while at J-tree....
Are those climber's hooves or what!
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TradIsGood
Trad climber
Gunks end of country
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Oct 25, 2005 - 10:19pm PT
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No nail on the little piggy on the right either. You really had us going.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2005 - 10:22pm PT
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The little piggies have nails too. It is just in the permanent I'm-in-a-climbing-shoe position.
The pain is all gone, finally. Now I can sleep. The swelling (that doesn't show so good in the photo) has also gone away. Here, I'll go remove the nail polish and see what it looks like now.
One moment please....
*LOOK AWAY IF YOU ARE EATING*
(feel free to donate to the Crimpie-needs-another-pedicure-fund)
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2005 - 10:31pm PT
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Mr. Z:
It probably would have been good in the early days, but it's okay now. Purdy, ain't she?
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2005 - 10:41pm PT
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It's not photographing well (bad camera). It's all funky colored - definitely bruised/black/blue/reds. See how the bottom half is dark? It's dead now too. I'm afraid to poke at the base part of it because I know some giant crater will open up and I'll crack my head on the floor when I pass out in response to that.
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Freak
Social climber
Yosemite
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Oct 25, 2005 - 10:46pm PT
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Don't feel bad, it could be worse.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2005 - 10:47pm PT
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It's a red box now. I am afraid to see what's going to show up! Don't know why this toenail thing grosses me out the way it does!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2005 - 10:48pm PT
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Of course I know who you are Mr. Z. It is I - the honorary Front Ranger. And you are my master.
No?
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2005 - 10:52pm PT
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I did finally get an email off to you. I've been working so fecking hard it isn't even funny.
Dec 8 Dec 8 Dec 8 Dec 8.......
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 25, 2005 - 10:53pm PT
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2005 - 11:09pm PT
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OMG! That is so disturbing!! I can't stop laughing!
Thought for sure there would be some faces as toenails too....
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Oct 25, 2005 - 11:22pm PT
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It appears that you have Morton's foot. There are climbing shoes designed for that, Dolomites, for one, probably others. Might be easier on your toes, maybe not.
I was expecting it to be grosser, but the ouchtake restored full quesy-ness.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2005 - 11:28pm PT
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Morton's Foot? Off to google I go. I thought they were just called "hooves". The toe does look better now that the swelling is gone. I think when it starts separating I'll need some prescription drugs...
Jaybro:
Dayum. You're good! Looks just like Morton's. I thought the second toe was suppose to be longer on everyone! I've had those pesky (and massively painful) neuromas too. Ever get a corticosteroid shot in a nerve? Believe me, it's something you'd only do once!
Where do I send the $20 copay?
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toluene*brainblow
Social climber
bag of toxic vapors
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Oct 25, 2005 - 11:33pm PT
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OOh My GoD!! Like Bag Those toNails! That is is Like SOOO GrOOsss!!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2005 - 11:35pm PT
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Suggestions Brainblow? Just rip off the toenails or you mean paint them another color? They HAVE to have sparklies though (prevents color from being rubbed off in climbing shoes).
Please advise
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 25, 2005 - 11:42pm PT
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
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Oct 25, 2005 - 11:49pm PT
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i think i get tired of the Ouchian pics, then viola, a masterpiece.
thx for the laughs
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mark miller
Social climber
Reno
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Oct 25, 2005 - 11:54pm PT
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Now those look like a climber's toes...
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Gene
climber
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Oct 26, 2005 - 12:35am PT
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Camhooks. Cool.
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Oct 26, 2005 - 01:15am PT
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That toe is nothing. I bet it won't fall off, the black goup will just migrate to the end as your nail grows. It will be there for a while though, probably a year.
I went through a phase where my toe nail would fall off after everytime I went on a big hike in the mountains. basically spent a couple of years without a toenail. Luckily it eventually grew back like normal and has been fine.
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Oct 26, 2005 - 01:30am PT
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I'm so tempted to post another pict of a body part. But... naw... I'll leave this one for crimpy. Heck, my toes already angle at 45. Maybe Ouch can straighten them back out for me!
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Fingercrack
Trad climber
Just left of there
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Oct 26, 2005 - 01:31am PT
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Wow, Crimpergirl.
Ouch's photoshoped feet aside. You got's some boney toes.
A few people here where I live and I got together to see who had the ugliest feet. Mine are dang funky, But nowhere near as squirrly as the other two.
does the toenail wiggle?
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Oct 26, 2005 - 02:00am PT
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uh.... nekkid!
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 26, 2005 - 02:24am PT
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Oct 26, 2005 - 02:36am PT
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that one is also an Ouch! special - at one point it was crimpy. probably still is. hard to tell - can't see the toes.
crazy thing is.. .that toe is startin' to look like my thumb
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2005 - 08:36am PT
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I go to sleep and look what happens! OUCH! continues to kill. In a couple more years, my feet probably will look like that!
Nature: glad you're back playing. Thought my thumbs photo had long disappeared into the pile... Now I see the similarity in my thumb and big toe - I'd never noticed before!
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Oct 26, 2005 - 10:03am PT
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my thumb left me and never returned. Probably left me for another thumb. No note, no nuthin'! I've never been the same since. You know how hard it is to hitchhike without... oh nevermind!
It took me a bit to find the thread with those Ouch! gems.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=60044
Most of the links are busted which is too bad. I might have to bust one myself.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2005 - 11:42am PT
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I don't know why the links don't work any longer. I did not futz with it.
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Oct 26, 2005 - 11:50am PT
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if you have the originals i'd be happy to post them (host them) on my web server. They'd never break again :-)
And what about you Mr. Ouch! ? Any of that original work still around?
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Apocalypsenow
Trad climber
Cali
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Oct 26, 2005 - 02:07pm PT
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Having hit my thumb a couple times with a hammer...perhaps there is blood behind the toe and you should relieve the pressure? (nice feet, you will still get to eat that nail in Josh.)
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2005 - 04:54pm PT
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The original lives right here on my hard drive! Who has a piggy-less foot photo? Let's see it - Fattrad?
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 26, 2005 - 05:24pm PT
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Nature, I lost a ton of that junk when my hard drive tanked. Didn't bother to back it up.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2005 - 10:39pm PT
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neener neener neener - I have one!
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 26, 2005 - 10:48pm PT
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I can't believe you neener neener neenered me. That's almost as bad as triple dog dare.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2005 - 10:51pm PT
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Okay - - I double dog dare you to put up that photo again....
sticks tongue out
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 26, 2005 - 11:03pm PT
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This one? Neener Neener Neener!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2005 - 12:03am PT
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YOU WIN! YOU WIN! OMG!!!!!
hey, but I gotta call you on the hair. What's with the haircut?
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 27, 2005 - 12:14am PT
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It's called a Half Dome.
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toluene*brainblow
Social climber
bag of toxic vapors
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Oct 27, 2005 - 12:20am PT
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You people are exceptionally lame. Someone really should help Ouch to commit suicide. We'd all be better off, I guarantee you.
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Oct 27, 2005 - 12:36am PT
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It's called a Half Dome. - lmmfao.
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David Nelson
climber
San Francisco
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Crimpergirl,
I am coming into this discussion rather late, and the fate of your toenail is now long gone into history. However, in case this helps either you or anyone else with an injured toe:
Check out my page on fingertip injuries, it has a great drawing of the anatomy of a nail: http://www.davidlnelson.md/Fingertip_crush_injuries.htm, and will help you to follow this explanation.
The photo shows that you have a collection of blood (hematoma) under the nail plate (the thing you trim with a fingernail clipper). This collection of blood under the nail plate is called a subungual hematoma. It is usually due to trauma to a fingertip or toe. The hematoma lifts the nail plate off the nail bed (the pink tissue immediately below the nail plate). It is usually exquisitely painful and can be easily relieved by putting a hole (called "trephining")in the nail plate. I use a specialized motorized drill made just for this purpose in the office, but a hot paperclip is said to be fairly low pressure (I have not tried it), or you could use any simple drill (just don't place pressure on it, both to prevent pain and to avoid overshooting the nail plate, called "past pointing", and further injuring the nail bed, as well as hurting like hell).
The hematoma usually separates the nail plate from the nail bed, sometimes to the point that the nail plate falls off or almost falls off (which seems to be your condition). The nail plate need not be kept on, but it is a great protection for the nail bed. Leave it on if you can.
A new nail will come in, and usually without permanent deformity. The is often transient deformity, say for a year or so. Check out the line drawing that I hyperliked at the beginning of this post. The new nail is formed by the germinal matrix, which is usually undamaged and is located proximal (closer to your heart) to the nail fold (see the picture). The nail plate will grow out slowly, usually taking 3 months in the finger and about twice that in the toe. If you opt to leave the old nail on, protect it with a bandaid or similar, so it will not be torn off (hurts just to write about it). Let the new nail plate push off the old nail plate.
Be careful to avoid a fungal infection in the meantime. I usually suggest Lamisil ointment, to supress the normal fungal elements that are all over all of our feet, mine as well as yours. The subungual hematoma and removed nail plate both violate the normal barriers the body has to fight fungal infection, so I like to supress the fungus with Lamisil.
Now, back to all the fun but silly repartee on this thread...
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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Ok...seen it for real now...It's definitely grosser up close.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2005 - 01:35pm PT
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David:
Thanks for the great info.
It is grosser now. And Shack did get all woozy when I showed it too him. It ached all day from climbing on it. I'll take some photos when I get home to keep you up to date. It's icky. Bleh....
Sorry we missed you at the campfire Shack - wish we could have spent more time together...
Crimpie
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BrentA
Gym climber
estes park
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top right, wish that damn toenail would come off...lol. sorry about the other spray photos, couldn't snip it.
Cheers,
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2005 - 08:32pm PT
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Ewwwww!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2005 - 11:40am PT
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My camera sucks. The toenail has separated at the base. Icky.
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matisse
Trad climber
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Nov 12, 2005 - 12:06pm PT
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" but a hot paperclip is said to be fairly low pressure (I have not tried it), or you could use any simple drill "
I have, back in the day when dinosaurs roamed the earth and I was a family doc. The hot paper clip hurts like hell for a second because you do get some heating. However, like you suggest, a small bit from a drill twiddled back and forth between the fingers, resting lightly on the nail, works awesomely well as it slowly carves away the nail. Even better one can do it on oneself, always a bit heroic with the hot paper clip trick.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2005 - 12:43pm PT
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Next time I'll try it. I just suffered through the pain (do I get a medal? Ha!) It is now in the sit-and-watch phase. Can't believe it's going to take a year to come off. It was climbing-induced so I won't complain though!
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Ouch!
climber
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Nov 12, 2005 - 01:43pm PT
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2005 - 03:43pm PT
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Ewwwwww! I just got a bit woozy. Worms. Ugh!
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maculated
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Nov 12, 2005 - 03:43pm PT
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Callie, my first toenail just fell off last night . . . and I have no excuse. It hasn't been in a climbing shoe in weeks. (Fixing that today).
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2005 - 03:51pm PT
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Did you taste it?
Ha hahaha! Couldn't resist. Bet it was a relief. POST A PHOTO OF IT!!! I'm just waiting for this one to start snagging on stuff.
Hey, I'm hoping to get back to J-Tree a day or two in December. And I've got to go to a meeting during the second week in February at UC Irvine. Hopefully we can compare knarly hooves and chisled briskets then!
looking forward to it.
C
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Claude
climber
where I'll end up
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Nov 12, 2005 - 03:55pm PT
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more boobs shots. :)
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2005 - 04:09pm PT
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They're coming. I promise. The cd is in the mail.....
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Claude
climber
where I'll end up
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Nov 12, 2005 - 04:12pm PT
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kidding of course. :)
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2005 - 04:16pm PT
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Of course!
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Claude
climber
where I'll end up
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Nov 12, 2005 - 04:22pm PT
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so, any pictures then?
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maculated
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Nov 12, 2005 - 04:35pm PT
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Sigh . . . foot fetishists.
Note the interesting toenail paint transfer. There's a very thin layer left on the bottom half and the paint seems to have stuck with it.
Callie, As soon as Dec 2 rolls around I'm heading north, but I think Feb I might be able to swing. :)
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2005 - 05:09pm PT
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My parents have several Blue and Gold Macaws. Malachi, a male, has a thing about toenails painted red. If he sees them, he runs over to the toes and regurgitates on them. In parrot-ville, that is the highest of compliments. Weird. He'd love your feet!
Jeez, now that I see your feet, I see how hoove-like mine really are!
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Ouch!
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Nov 12, 2005 - 07:23pm PT
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2005 - 10:22pm PT
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Now THAT'S a case of Morton's toe!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2005 - 10:58am PT
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Toenail update. I'm even more grossed out.
Went climbing last night and finally had to stop because the toenail was killing. Checked it out and see that it's barely hanging on. Won't quite come off because it's still attached to something and I'm chicken it'll hurt (and interfere with climbing).
Those with experience - leave it be? Or pull it?
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TradIsGood
Trad climber
Gunks end of country
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Dec 13, 2005 - 11:16am PT
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Tape it in place or cut it off (it will only hurt right after you do it). Also force camera to focus on toe next time! :)
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fareastclimber
Trad climber
Hong Kong & Wales
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Dec 13, 2005 - 11:28am PT
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These pictures are so hot. I have the same problem aswell with both my big toe nails seperating from the flesh. What I usually do is just cut the entire detached area off. Make sure to cut it all off in one chunk, so you can carry it around in your pocket and say 'hey, look how big this is'.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2005 - 02:15pm PT
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TradIsGood - true - this camera sucks. I could not make it stop focusing on my finger and instead focus on my toenail. Also, I didn't notice when I posted this originally, but the #2 toenail is coming off too. Bleack. I have the big toe taped now. Hopefully it'll come off in a big chunk. because i don't have pockets on most of my clothes, I'll drill a little hole in it, string a piece of leather through it, and wear it as a necklace. I can paint it to match my outfits! it'll look so rad!
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Ouch!
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Dec 13, 2005 - 02:21pm PT
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Crimp, you could put a hinge on it and use it to carry parking change.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Dec 13, 2005 - 02:23pm PT
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jeez...that's sure taking it's sweet time.... Get someone to snag the thing with a needle-nose pliers and yard it off!
Or, if you think it is really still attached to living tissue.....take a nail scissors, and cut away the loose part. At least you won't have the big loose nail pressing and pulling at every movement of your foot.
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TradIsGood
Trad climber
Gunks end of country
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Dec 13, 2005 - 03:10pm PT
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Crimper, if you can still find it... Most cameras come with some kind of user manual. Your camera may allow you to focus, and hold the focus while moving what the camera is centered on. This is useful when you wish your subject to be located off center in a picture which is fairly common.
It may also have a manual mode - that will allow you to "screw up your shots any way you like," which can be useful in cases like this. :)
If you can't find the manual, your local camera shop might be able to show you what options you have with your camera.
And don't be such a pussy. Do what happie suggests. It will only hurt for a moment. Figure out the camera first though in case it really bleeds. :)
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Dec 13, 2005 - 04:54pm PT
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Calling a woman "pussy" just doesn't sit right in my book.....
However, I do feel that, at times, there is need for a descriptive word that conveys the same sense of desperation that the word engenders(pun,yes)for men. This new term is especially useful to women, as most ladies do not find the word "pussy" to have the satisfactory ring that seems to have endeared the usage with men.
Therefore, I have come up with a new term, for use on such an occasion, and that word is "limpid." It is taken from the more base term of "limp dick," which men do use in reference to their male peers when disgusted, though the preference is more often for "pussy."
Note, men will probably not adopt usage of the word "limpid" in thier vocabulary, and are not expected to. But it is with the highest hopes that I humbly submit the word for general use, particularly amongst us chics, when our female climbing partner, whether on the rock or off, is being....well, limpid.
So - Crimpergirl....Why are you being so limp(var.)? Hack that thing off and get on with it!
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Ouch!
climber
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Dec 13, 2005 - 06:25pm PT
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2005 - 07:50pm PT
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I think that fly is hurting because of the smell. You know, that fly has teeth a lot like Ramjit's teeth. Hmmmm.
I'll get in the tub and see if I can coax this beast off of me. I want it off.
Signed,
The Wuss
:)
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maculated
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Dec 13, 2005 - 09:00pm PT
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Leave it. I've lost whole finger nails before and they exist for a reason. Trust me.
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TradIsGood
Trad climber
Gunks end of country
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Dec 13, 2005 - 09:06pm PT
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Definitions of limpid on the Web:
liquid: clear and bright; "the liquid air of a spring morning"; "eyes shining with a liquid luster"; "limpid blue eyes"
crystalline: transmitting light; able to be seen through with clarity; "the cold crystalline water of melted snow"; "crystal clear skies"; "could see the sand on the bottom of the limpid pool"; "lucid air"; "a pellucid brook"; "transparent crystal"
(of language) transparently clear; easily understandable; "writes in a limpid style"; "lucid directions"; "a luculent oration"- Robert Burton; "pellucid prose"; "a crystal clear explanation"; "a perspicuous argument"
1. Characterized by transparent clearness; pellucid. 2.Easily intelligible; clear 3.Calm and untroubled; serene.
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OK. Sorry, Happie, and any others who silently might have been offended. I should have thought of wuss, perhaps.
But if you want to "coin" a word maybe you need to create a new word. Flaccid maybe, if you want to use an existing word. LOL.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Northern Mexico
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Dec 13, 2005 - 09:09pm PT
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Anyone ever chemicaly remove their toenails?
I would like to just burn my big toe nails away for good.
Juanito
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2005 - 10:30pm PT
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Oh, it's flapping around like clothes on a clothes line. Any more ready and it'll be in my sock flopping around. Hopefully these photos work out better.
Signed,
The Pussy.
hahahahahha!
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Dec 13, 2005 - 10:36pm PT
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Wuss is too 1980's, and never packed the punch that its more base word had. It's like saying "dang" when you're head is screaming "damn." And TIG - so what if the word has another definition? Limpid is my new word, and I intend for it to stick.
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TradIsGood
Trad climber
Gunks end of country
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Dec 14, 2005 - 06:22am PT
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Crimpie, LOL. I will just call you The, for short.
Dang, happie, you are tough! You I call limpet.
From OED
1. a. A gasteropod mollusc of the genus Patella, having
an open tent-shaped shell and found adhering tightly to the
rock which it makes its resting-place.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Dec 14, 2005 - 10:08am PT
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Oh....that's actually pretty good. Though....thightly adhering to the rock in a tentlike shape.....Now we really do have another new word for someone who gets sketched and can't commit to the move!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 24, 2006 - 10:49pm PT
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Toenails! Toenails! Everywhere are toenails!!!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
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Jul 25, 2006 - 12:27am PT
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WHAT?!?!
No 'little piggies' toe nail separators?!?!?!
for sooth, the uncouth of it all.
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blackbird
Trad climber
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Jul 25, 2006 - 01:27am PT
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bwaaahhhhhhhhhhh! Good one, Munge! Send 'em to me and I'll take a pic just for you!
(mine are actually little caterpillars, but you can't tell that in the pic...!)
BB
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Oct 31, 2008 - 08:10pm PT
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bump
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WyoRockMan
climber
Flank of the Big Horns
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Woo hoo! I'll get to wear tight shoes this spring!
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perswig
climber
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^^ You might as well do the others and have a matching set.
Dale
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Can't happen to mine....they're fungus.
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matisse
climber
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you have hairy feet. what did you do? drop a boulder on it?
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jstan
climber
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Anybody here got the coolaid? I think we are ready.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Daily application of tea tree oil is prescribed. Scrub first with soap and a brush. Rinse thoroughly (so soap is not a barrier.) Apply oil with a q-tip.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
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Blargh! Some old time fun, Ouch classics, and contemporary gnarly photos on the thread. Funny stuff.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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But Anita, you have actual toenails. I need a dremel tool to trim what i've got.
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Strongerdog
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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My technique for relieving the pressure of a smashed or impacted nail is to get a straight-edged razor, hold one of the sharp corners/points down on the tail and rotate it in circles. Totally painless and you will know when you hit pay-dirt by the eruption. The relief from the pressure/throbbing is almost instant. Again, totally painless. Repeat as necessary.
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matisse
climber
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^^^^^^^ I do the same thing with a small drill bit.. not attached to the drill...just twirl it back and forth between your fingers til you go through
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
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another carpentry thread down the tubes.
anyway, if you wanna fester over something
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