Our cat died! Need to know how much it weighs. No scale :(

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TradIsGood

Trad climber
Gunks end of country
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 4, 2006 - 08:10pm PT
Apparently here disposal is based on weight. I do not want to get ripped off. But I have no scale. Does anybody know how to get the weight of a dead cat without using any kind of scale?
Ouch!

climber
Mar 4, 2006 - 08:14pm PT
The other one was funny.
Unfortunately this one isn't.
Weenis

Trad climber
Tel Aviv
Mar 4, 2006 - 08:21pm PT
I usually put them in a full bucket of water and regain the displaced amount in a big graduate. 1 ml. = 1g.
TradIsGood

Trad climber
Gunks end of country
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2006 - 08:47pm PT
Well cats float when they are alive. So this would give their weight when they are alive. But he is dead. So his lungs could fill with water, and I would be over-estimating his weight since he would sink and displace his volume!
Robb

Social climber
Flathead Valley, Montana
Mar 4, 2006 - 09:12pm PT
Close, but negative. Take the displacement at full submergence and use a multiplier in the say 1.23 to 1.37 range to app. for non fluid weight..... this of course depends on how buffed yer kitty was.
TradIsGood

Trad climber
Gunks end of country
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2006 - 09:33pm PT
zardoz - I hope those dogs were dead! (Before you buried them.)
Weenis

Trad climber
Tel Aviv
Mar 4, 2006 - 10:34pm PT
Hey Robb, er TIG,
I know that I left out the SG factor. Isn't it more like approx o.123? Your estimates are good on that...
TradIsGood

Trad climber
Gunks end of country
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2006 - 11:09pm PT
Well Weenis, I couldn't really tell you. I know Archimedes figured out the floating displacement = weight and the sinking displacement = volume thing.

But to tell you the truth, I have just never measured the volume of a cat's lungs or stomach, both of which could fill with water if it were dead.

And I do not intend to at this time! I suppose that perhaps I could make a little kitty boat to take advantage of your suggestion. That would keep the poor things head above water.

Is cat fur porous? Does it absorb water? I know the cat used to act a bit strange when it got wet.

Anyway, making a boat and capturing overflowing water seems a bit complicated. Does anybody have a simpler solution?
TradIsGood

Trad climber
Gunks end of country
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2006 - 11:17pm PT
OK. The building height problem has a pretty good answer. It could use a teeny bit of refinement. But it is a good answer.

So now it might be time to move onto this problem. (When y'all aren't debating the merits of abortion, right or wrong, mixed up with how that should become law, along with myriad other with dimensions - all being espoused by characters capable of thinking only in one dimension...)

Anybody ever read Flatland?
TradIsGood

Trad climber
Gunks end of country
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2006 - 06:01am PT
Perhaps I would comment, if you were to start a thread on Flatland. It is interesting that you remember the year that you read it. (OK, I did comment. But that was not what you meant.)

The purpose for the post was simply to note that this problem is very clearly stated. That a solution to this problem would be clearly a solution. And non-solutions would be clearly non-solutions. That is not true of the other thread. And perhaps later, I will contrast the dead cats threads with the abortion thread. But since that would also be a drift, it will be reserved for a future thread.

For those of you who may have missed the other dead cat thread it may be found here. You may or may not find something interesting in the development there that could help here.
maculated

Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
Mar 7, 2006 - 12:08pm PT
You're such a jerk, TiG.

That said, if you had to play the game, isn't it 1 g of H20 = 1 oz?
TradIsGood

Trad climber
Gunks end of country
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2006 - 12:51pm PT
1 millileter of water weighs 1 gram. You can convert using Google. Just enter "1 oz in grams" and hit Search.

 S.A. Jerk.

No offense intended, BTW.

In fact, we now have the only cat I have ever had. Born ferile, taken from mother at a couple weeks. Mother later became a road pie. We had hoped to catch her. Anyway the kitten is kind of fun. Yesterday he was laying on an ottoman. As I was about to pet him, he jumped off in a big hurry. Took me about 30 seconds to figure out that he had tried to attack the reflection of my watch on the wall. He is now almost one year old. Helluva jumper!
Dirk

climber
Curry Village
Mar 7, 2006 - 01:14pm PT
You'd better weigh that thing soon, especially if you live in a warm or humid climate.
maculated

Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
Mar 7, 2006 - 01:20pm PT
I am SO offended at my lack of science skills! :) Eight years since I got to play with bunsen burners. I'll give myself some slack.
TradIsGood

Trad climber
Gunks end of country
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2006 - 01:21pm PT
Not warm and humid here. He is just out there layin' on ice in the back yard. But Saturday might be climbing weather. Can I get his mass by trundling?

Slack line?

Please advise.
Mom

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 7, 2006 - 11:34pm PT
if you loved it, why dispose of it? just plant it at least 3' under in it's favorite blanket or bed, cover it with the rest of the clean kitty litter, hold a prayer service and be thankful for such a good friend that taught you much about life and will give you a wonderful plant in later years. when i sell this place, the back corner of my yard will look like a pet cemetary if anyone decides to excavate... all my animals of the passed 28 years are buried back there and didn't cost me a penny.... and i get a lot of pleasure remembering the best part of being a human being is owning a pet.
TradIsGood

Trad climber
Gunks end of country
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2006 - 06:34am PT
LEB, start a new thread. Nobody will discuss Flatland here. Nobody will even see it here.

Mom, dead cats are too useful. Burying them would be wasteful.
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