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Wrathchild
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Lee NH
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Sep 11, 2005 - 10:57am PT
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There is no historical record of such a race. The concept is credited to Madame Blavatsky, a 19th century self styled mystic huckster. The inner circle of the Nazi Party were very interested in the secret powers of 'the pure race' she spoke of, especially Himmler( who was a homosexual satanist as well).
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WBraun
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Sep 11, 2005 - 05:42pm PT
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The Term "Aryan" refers to people who follow Vedas, and they have and continue to exist.
The Vedas are not man-made ideologies but they are picked up from the original treasure house of India's spiritual culture attained by the great Rishis and Acharyas who transcended the conditional stage of existence and such spiritual experience is recorded in Sanskrit language. As such it is now necessary that men of culture all over the world may learn and read Sanskrit language the mother of all other languages of the Aryan stock.
Einstein stood for the principles of good and correct action/lifestyle, and thus he directly confronted and defied Hitler's evil efforts during World War 2. Although German born, he refused to live in Hitler's Reich, and thus in 1933 moved permanently to Princeton's Institute for Advanced Study, where he sponsored a steady stream of refugees from Nazism.
Hitler was a saktyavesh avatar, and a saktyavesh avatar does NOT only mean a
GOOD one, but even someone who is specifically being empowered (and used) to create and bring evil.
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Wrathchild
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Lee NH
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Sep 11, 2005 - 05:55pm PT
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So you're saying it is a philosophic adherence, not a "race" of people.
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WBraun
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Sep 11, 2005 - 06:03pm PT
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No a race.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Chatsworth
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2005 - 06:06pm PT
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The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend a personal God and avoid dogmas and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific needs, it would be Buddhism.
Albert Einstein
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yo
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NOT Fresno
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Sep 11, 2005 - 07:40pm PT
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Yo's movie pick of the week: "Downfall"
German flick about Hitler's last days in the bunker. Pretty nuts. Gives you a hint of what it would be like if the Russians really were coming.
Relevant scene: Hitler and Eva get married just before they off themselves. The official conducting the ceremony, looking extremely nervous, says something to the effect of "Uh, Mein Fuhrer, German racial laws require me to verify that both the bride and groom are licensed Aryans. If I may see your racial purity card." And one of Hitler's cronies slaps him before Hitler has to show proof.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Sep 11, 2005 - 11:23pm PT
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"Arya" is Sanskrit for "Noble"
The "Aryan Race" were the group of folks from Central Asia that invaded India from the North thousands of years ago, bringing the seeds of the Vedas and a sacrificial religion. The Sanskrit language was a direct offshoot of the more primordial "Indo-European" which branched into Latin when it migrated West, and Sanskirt when it migrated South. Many words are cognate. For example, the English "Ignite" is cognate with the Sanskrit "Agni" for fire.
The Aryan's bumped into the darker skinned Dravidian Race in Southern India who spoke a different language family entirely.
Hitler was superstitous and borrowed symbols and ideas about power from many religions. You will find Swastikas in both East Indian Culture and Native American culture long, long before Hitler.
The above information is from the academic side of the equation.
Edit: That's what they teach at UC Berkeley's Department of South Asian Studies. The fact that the linked article disputes much of this is news to me and unsupported by the author. The possibility that Europe and Northern India share a common root in race and language doesn't mean squat and shouldn't have anything to do with Hitler's superstition or the Middle East situation.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Chatsworth
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2005 - 11:48pm PT
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Hey Baba, Werner, I think all this history has changed in the last few years.
I am reading The Complete Idiot's Guide to Hinduism.
Frederick Max Muller was all wrong.
The religion of the Vedas is thousands of years older then Western scholars originally thought, and no invasion of Aryans ever occurred.
Juan
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Sep 11, 2005 - 11:54pm PT
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I've heard that the Dorians, who invaded Greece after Homer's time (c. 8th century BC), were one branch of the Aryan race. Hence, the new Gods like Apollo and Athena have blonde hair like the Germanic invaders from the the north. If they were so enlightened, it's odd that the invasion produced a two-hundred year dark age in Greece that only ended with the rise of Athens in the 5th century BC. Just my two-cents worth . . .
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A Dzzl
Trad climber
Praha, Czech Republic
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Sep 12, 2005 - 06:29am PT
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Hi,
For what it's worth, I have studied Innner Eurasian History from the perspective of a world systems theorist. There is no doubt that interaction between Inner Eurasian nomads and the "civilized" Outer Eurasian peoples (europeans, Persians, Indians, Chinese,ect.) has had a lasting impact on both cultures. In terms of Geography, there are seveal causeways where fingers of the central asian steppe reach into outer eurasia. One of those fingers leads into what is now Pakistan and Northern India. Yes, there has been several major invasions of Inner Eurasian peoples into Northern India. This is a historical phenomenon that has happened for millenia.
I would seriously doubt anyone who claims that human migrations such as this simply did not happen.
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WBraun
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Sep 12, 2005 - 11:57am PT
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At one time long ago the entire world was Aryan.
Nothing to do with the color of skin......the entire world was Vedic.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2005 - 01:01pm PT
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Hey Werner you got that right!
I just have problems with this invasion theory of Northern India by Ayrans. The Ayrans were always there. The Vedas talk of a great river, that was found by the space shuttle in the last few years in Northern India. Also, the position of planets and stars dates the vedas as being at least 5,000 years old.
I just want India to get credit for their own, not some distorted history written by europeans.
Juan
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