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nature
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Santa Fe, NM
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 25, 2008 - 12:48pm PT
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I have some ideas. I'm asking permission from the family to do something special with his work. Ouch! once told me I could do anything I wanted with his stuff but it's only right we do what Allie and his best friend would like.
It's my guess that he's created over 1000 cartoons. They will be tough to find. We've tried before and gave up after a couple hundred.
Though it's yet to be determined how far we can take this if nothing else we should try to catalog here as many of his cartoons as we can find.
Here's what I propose to do that.
There are almost 7500 posts authored by Ouch!
Here is how you can find them:
http://www.supertopo.com/forumpostsearch.html?id=7819083
I propose that we get a group together and look through all of his posts. It would need to be done systematically.
I'm thinking we each take a block from the search results and look through his posts.
This is a URL for the second page of the search results.
http://www.supertopo.com/forumpostsearch.html?s=ratings&o=ASC&v=0&cur=10&id=7819083#list
if you modify cur= you'll get a new page of results Divide up the blocks 100 or 200 at a time and modify the url to look at "your" block of search results. Catalog the URL of any post with a
Who wants to help?
With the permission of the family i would like to then download as much of his stuff as we can and archive it on a website that we don't have to worry about losing. I offer not only my services in building an album with thumbs but also off my webserver.
His humor is world class and it only seems right to ensure we can reflect back and get a good laugh. As we all know this forum isn't really designed to allow for easy viewing of stuff like this. Also, a lot of his cartoons are on imageshack and who knows what might happen to that.
peace,
nature
Edit: Ha... in this thread Ouch! gave me all the "nonsense".
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=384520
of course I could never feel right about owning it but I do feel right about spearheading an archiving project.
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jstan
climber
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Oct 25, 2008 - 01:20pm PT
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We have these things called Presidential Libraries. Allie mentioned her dad's email and other records. I could not figure a good way to suggest it to Allie, but I think all of "Sam's" stuff needs to be preserved.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Oct 25, 2008 - 01:31pm PT
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I 'd like to help out, Doug. Today isn't good though, it's my birthday and going climbing and then out to dinner. Tomorrow though, I'm game. I'm usually pretty grim on birthdays, but this one's gonna suck bad...I'm doing a lead for Ouch today. Watch me, bro!
It's good idea that you've got, lets do it! What are you going to want me to do? Which block should I take?
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2008 - 01:34pm PT
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I think/hope I did a good job in suggesting/asking to/of her that we somehow make sure his stuff is never lost.
What we're asking is to honor him so I can't imagine how they would object.
I suggest everyone do what I'm doing - search through his old posts for his cartoons. In the middle of the tears you will find laughter (and a lot of it).
The funny thing is Allen was all over many threads. Many I never visited. 8 out of 10 of the cartoons I've found I had never seen before.
The mileage he got from some of our pictures was amazing. #46 got the most though he never really had a shot of him I don't think. After that Blue Dog went many miles.
Apparently my Geoduck clam got some as well.
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TradIsGood
Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Oct 25, 2008 - 01:37pm PT
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I would suggest getting ST's resident librarian, Mighty Hiker, to do help with the cataloging work.
And surely some ST digital artist should construct a virtual headstone with Bear 46 in his honor.
Great idea nature!
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2008 - 01:38pm PT
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blue - cool and thanks and HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRO!!!!!
There's no big hurry on this. I can't imagine the stuff will go anywhere any time soon. It'll take a while is my guess anyway. Enjoy yourselves out there!
Let's see who volunteers. I'm working my way through the most recent posts. I'll see how far I get and I'll determine a reasonable system to grab the data we need.
I'm thinking we'll end up with a list of urls to his images. I can write a script to run through the whole list and download the images to another server (awaiting permission for that). I can then set up a CMS (Typo3) that has the ability to catalog and thumbnail all of them. The CMS has a digital asset manager.
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2008 - 01:45pm PT
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Thanks TiG.
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TradIsGood
Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Oct 25, 2008 - 01:50pm PT
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Let's not forget the succession process, either.
Plenty of us have waited for Ouch! to craft clever pictures that we could not do ourselves.
Nominations are open. (Sorry for thread drift, but this is a climbing forum. It just wouldn't do to have all of the politics shoved off the first page by the death of a beloved!)
I would nominate Watusi or Ammon, but they probably aren't around enough to pick up the load.
Long live the King!
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Strider
Trad climber
one of god's mountain temples....
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Oct 25, 2008 - 01:53pm PT
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Thanks nature for putting the work in on this project. Through this archive, I get the feeling that ouch! will never leave us and his memory here will live on...
-n
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2008 - 02:08pm PT
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I received a response from Allie and she not only approved of my ideas she very much appreciated them. She's trying to print up some of his work so us cataloging could help greatly.
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Oct 25, 2008 - 02:15pm PT
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nature, when i click on some of Ouch's work- my computer has problems. When this gets archived, will my computer still have memory problems? How can i fix this..and don't say get a mac,I would love to buy- 2000 of them...let alone one...;-)
edit: thank you Allie......;-) Yes, and thank you Nature..love you. ;-)
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 25, 2008 - 02:15pm PT
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From Allie...
Permission most graciously granted. I am actually begging you to do this as I am really struggling to gather them myself and we would be so incredibly thankful for this to take place....
Please let me know if and how I could assist in any way! I am not sure what I can do but am more than willing to try...
Thank you all so very much. He is probably not liking all of this attention but thats just what he gets for being such an incredible human being... : )
~Allie
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2008 - 02:23pm PT
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Nita: I think moving it over to a faster server will help. imageshack always seems slow to me.
Thanks Allie. We got this covered so don't worry about helping out here. I think once we get a team organized we'll be able to get a lot of work done quickly. It'll be fun.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Oct 25, 2008 - 02:24pm PT
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Thanks for that Doug. I'll be in touch about what I can do.
Thanks, Allie, we're with you.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Oct 25, 2008 - 02:45pm PT
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I could probably wade through all of the Ouch posts myself, fueled by extreme OCD.
Might take a wee bit, but I would get there eventually...
I assume all of these images are still on Ouch's computer?
It's one thing to get all of the cartoons into one place, but I think it's important to preserve the context
in which they appeared. Maybe make each cartoon a clickable link to reveal the thread they appeared in.
Nita - sounds like you need some more RAM for your PC. Go to Start > Control Panel > System
and you will see the amount of RAM you have. You should have at least 512 MB - hopefully more.
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Oct 25, 2008 - 02:47pm PT
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Thanks H.K., may be the first time i have appreciated you. ;-)
see, Ouch is still bring us all- together- to the taco table..;-)
edit: If more people followed Ouch's example, it would be a funnier , Kinder, generous,and more of a loving world.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Oct 25, 2008 - 02:49pm PT
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Hopefully it's knott the last. I heckled Ouch! pretty mercilessly, and he never seemed to hold a grudge.
I have tried to follow his example, as life is too short to hang on to petty bullshít.
Ouch! really lightened this place up.
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2008 - 05:09pm PT
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so true nita... so true...
HK. Let's do it in blocks. There's a ton of stuff that needs to be done. Certainly if you want to attempt to do it all that'd be great. Just pick a number and start working your way through. I do agree that each one should be preserved with context but that'll be even more work (though a lot of them stand on their own).
They are probably on his computer but I believe Allie is trying to respect his privacy and not dig too deep into his computer so we can't rely on that.
What I'm doing is opening in tabs from each search results page every Ouch! post. IF there is a comic in it I'm right clicking, copying the address, and then pasting it into a text document.
I'll be able to write a script that'll parse through that document and download to local or networked drive all of the images.
I'm thinking we should register a domain name to house his work under.
http://www.ouchcomics.com is available. Any other ideas?
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Oct 25, 2008 - 05:26pm PT
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Nature - since it seems you're going back from the present, I'll start from the beginning
and go forward. I'll put each post-link containing a cartoon into a text document as you're doing.
It's a wonderful opportunity to put my OCD to use in a way that actually means something!
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