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jesus
Social climber
ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 17, 2006 - 12:02pm PT
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Someone got hold of one of my credit cards , and i have the email address they used to buy things with the card . Is there a way to track them down using the address ? The address is
kevin.lee1971@gmail.com
thanks for any info or help in advance
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Oct 17, 2006 - 01:36pm PT
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pray
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Forest
Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
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Oct 17, 2006 - 02:09pm PT
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without cooperation from google, you can't. First, google is highly unlikely to be helpful in this regard, and second, there's no reason that google has any useful personal information on them either. What they do have is access logs indication the IP address(es) they've used to access their mail. This could be marginally helpful if you could get cooperation from the ISP that owns that IP address. Generally, only law enforcement angencies have any luck with that sort of thing.
Really, tho, the bank will cover the fraudulent charges, so other than the inconvenience, it shouldn't have cost you anything. If the bank isn't covering it, you need to howl and scream and threaten to call the authorities, since they're generally legally responsible.
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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Oct 17, 2006 - 02:12pm PT
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You need to get their info from whoever sold them the stuff.
ie. their "ship to" address.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Oct 17, 2006 - 02:39pm PT
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Intelius & People Search might be of use to you. The big credit rating houses like Equifax, too. Go to Yahoo! and click people search in the added features section.
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Oct 17, 2006 - 02:43pm PT
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Make sure to sign up that email address for all the gay porn email lists possible, or better yet beastialty porn.
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jesus
Social climber
ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2006 - 02:47pm PT
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So i called to find out what they bought , it was a subscription to the website BIGSAUSAGEPIZZA.com , Now that was funny . They also gave me the ip address of the user . 66.197.157.53 . Now what do i do with the ip address? Is there a way to track them down with that ?
thanks again
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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Oct 17, 2006 - 03:08pm PT
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That IP traces to Reno, NV!
and their ISP is RESELLERMATRIX.
Don't know if that helps...
and NO it's not me!
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BoKu
Trad climber
Douglas Flat, CA
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Oct 17, 2006 - 03:34pm PT
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It's fraud. Report it to the credit card co. and let them and the police handle it.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 17, 2006 - 03:40pm PT
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It may be a blind alley - so many e-mail addresses are facades.
You haven't told us how the person got your card, which may be relevant. There may be a credit card fraud case, especially if it turns out that you, the apparent user, the retailers, and the ship to address are in the same state. If you haven't already reported this to the police and the credit card company, you should. The police have the authority to compel production of information, and other resources. If you can persuade them to be interested..
Credit card fraud is a large and sophisticated business. For practical purposes, every purchase you make using a credit card includes a charge to cover fraud and bad debts. Insurance, if you like. Unless you were at fault, e.g. didn't report a theft in a timely manner, the credit card company should cover your losses.
Anders
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Oct 17, 2006 - 04:12pm PT
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I once had someone buy things with my debit card info, with an unusual twist. The bank's "watchdog for c/cards" called me to check on the thing because of suspicious activity(see below) on my card.
I am not sure how/what they did, but they got enough info from my card(number/name/bank info) and then - without the physical card, somehow made a legitimate-looking DUPLICATE, which they used. The fraud guy said probably they had gotten it at some place I had used the card; that the clerk retrieved the info, and then sold it to another party, who made the fake card and either used or resold it.
The suspicious activity was that the people went to a Walmart down in some southern state like Lousisiana(I can't recall exactly which state) and tried to buy a stereo system. When they got to the register, it wouldn't go through. So they tried to buy a LESS expensive one! I didn't have enough in my account to buy that one either, and so they took quite a leap down, form $1,000 to $200, which did go through.(There was just under $1,000 in the account at the time. Lucky for me they didn't try for a $950 stereo....).
Then they went to a gas station down the road and bought $20 of gas and some snacks(no, I'm not kidding).
The W/Mart activity alerted the automated system, which then alerted a human, who then alerted me. Called me up and said "This is so and so from (my bank's c/card services dept.). Were you traveling to Lousiana last weekend?"
As an aside - My debit card was a business account, as opposed to a personal account, and they told me that the bank is NOT legally obligated to replace that stolen money to my account! Apparently the law only protects the personal debit cards in tis manner. (Debit, not credit). The bank can decide, at their own discretion, if they will replace it or not. I guess because a lot of people scam the companies they work for, and the banks would go out of business if they paid out all that fraud....
I was pretty shocked about that, because it is not something most people know, and my bank certainly never told me that detail when I opened the account. The bank did put the money back in my account though, lucky for me. But if it had been more murky as to whetehr I'd been innocent in the thing, they might not have.
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mike
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tahoe city, ca.
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Oct 17, 2006 - 08:30pm PT
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A little OT but this happened to me .I was on my way to Jackson Hole for medical confrence with a fresh card. I bought gas in a couple towns on the way out and when I got there the card started rejecting my purchaces. I planned on using the card for the trip. I had to use my debit card the rest of the week. Racked up a huge bill in the resort bar. Barely got out of there alive. When I got home, the credit card company flagged my card as stolen. My cell phone (which Nextel doesn't work in JH) had a bunch of messages from the company asking if it had gotten stolen. They went a little too far with their security I think.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Oct 17, 2006 - 08:37pm PT
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i dont know why he cant part the electrons and come up with it.
use your faith jesus, you can do it.
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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Oct 17, 2006 - 09:26pm PT
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Jesus is just alright with me.
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jstan
climber
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Oct 17, 2006 - 09:59pm PT
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http://www.pirg.org/consumer/banks/debit/fact.htm
It seems the situation with regards to debit cards is very different from that of credit cards further complicated by a strong dependence upon the policies followed by your bank. I leave my debit card at home. I carry only one credit card and I don't let it out of my sight. Pocket scanners can be deadly.
With a credit card you also get the benefit of a three to four week float. Money market rates are back up as high as 5% so that float is once more worth something. You can also get a credit card that gives YOU a 1% kickback.
Cheers,
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