Stonemaster Stories; Part X--What? Still more!?

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rmuir

Social climber

the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.

Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 20, 2006 - 05:33pm PT

This here is the continuing saga of Old Dads trying to stave-off impending symptoms of Alzheimer's disease. (Memory is such a tragic thing, I seem to recall.)

The original Stonemaster Stories thread by John (Largo) Long started here:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=145850&f=0&b=0 (208)

JL: Anyone out there with old (before, say, 1975) Stonemaster stories, I'd love to hear them as I'm slowly trying to put something together. Hearing other perspectives might help trigger some long lost memories. The Stonemasters were always as much a frame of mind as anything else, but what folks remember--especially in terms of anecdotes, or what they thought the Stonemasters actually were, or stood for--might help give some little shape to what feels like a very amorphous subject.

Stonemaster Stories (Part II) can be retraced here:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=150211&f=0&b=0 (171)

Stonemaster Stories Part III can be retraced here (Many nice photos in this part):
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=155821&f=0&b=0 (129)

It was requested to continue onward here from Part III. It was getting
too long again (very rapidly actually). Stonemaster Stories Part IV:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=157408&f=0&b=0 (125)

We continued with the epic saga "Stonemaster Stories" (Part V):
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=161148&f=0&b=0 (150)

...and followed up with more of the epic saga "Stonemaster Stories" (Part 6):
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=164782&f=0&b=0 (126)

Continued with "Stonemaster Stories" (Part 7):
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=169730&f=0&b=0 (119)

Plodded forward with more of the same, "Stonemaster Stories" (Part 8):
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=173337&f=0&b=0 (101)

Still kicking with "Stonemaster Stories" (Part 9):
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=176623&f=0&b=0 (98)

Right. This might be as good time a time as any to move this thread along to the Tenth Circle of Hell. (Part 9 was getting long, and it was getting hard to find the earlier discussion strands without an "index". Two birds, one Stone.)

In Part 9, when we last left our hero Grammici (a.k.a., Graham) was inviting us to take a gander at his nascent website over at http://www.stonemaster.org/.

rmuir

Social climber

the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.

Topic Author's Reply - Jun 20, 2006 - 07:16pm PT

Hmmm. ...did all this editing of a new thread in the wrong order. Bump.

So, back to JL's question... Got any Stonemaster stories to share?

Tarbuster

climber

right here, right now

Jun 24, 2006 - 02:50pm PT

By happenstance, things have fanned out and we now have several stonemasters related threads.

Owing to LEB's thread, "Stone Master Lore", which is a bit wider in context as she asked after Stonemaster Era lifestyle particulars, we have a great piece posted by Roger Breedlove:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=211354&f=0&b=0

Here's the link to "Lynn Hill Magazine Cover Free At Last", which prompted "Stone Master Lore" It started out as a conversation about Lynn Hill and Yabo; then LEB asked about Stonemaster era lifestyle particulars:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=209753&f=35&b=0

Plus "Stonemaster Article in R&I"
Here:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=200664&f=35&b=0

Plus "1988 Stonemaster Calender"
Here:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=212003&f=35&b=0

Plus "Why is this Man Smiling" (A Yabo thread)
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=49087

Plus "Dick Webster Killed"
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=204770&f=0&b=0
Largo stated that Dick was something of a Stonemaster Progenitor;
Hey what about Mark Powell too?

So post up here, or somewhere - 'kinda hard to miss, even though things have splintered out.

Thanks for keeping this central thread together Robs.
(like herding cats, I think one once said about organizing climbers...)

Steve Grossman

Trad climber

Seattle, WA

Jun 9, 2007 - 10:46pm PT

I came across this shot in the 78 GPIW catalog of Tobin on the Eiger Direct taken by Alex MacIntyre. Big time Stonemaster alpinism. Provincial talent and how!

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Jun 9, 2007 - 10:59pm PT

I can't remember if it was before his Europe trip or the one to South America, but Tobin came over and asked to borrow a Joe Brown helmet that I never used for climbing but for pasengers on my motorcycle.

Never got the helmet back, something about selling the gear to get home.

Every time I see that photo I wonder if

that's my damn helmet?

Rick A

climber

Boulder, Colorado

Jun 10, 2007 - 12:47am PT

TGT-Better shot of Tobin in your helmet.

Steve Grossman

Trad climber

Seattle, WA

Jun 10, 2007 - 01:04am PT

Bet it is. To get a feel for the accomplishment, some shots of the Eiger Direct FA from Eiger Direct by Haston and Gilman 1966.
The route.
The team.
Work.
Rest.
Move a little to the side.
And generally hang it out there.
Twenty one days on the face to complete the route! Anyone know Tobin and Alex's time?

Raydog

Trad climber

Boulder Colorado

Jun 10, 2007 - 01:18am PT

thanks Robs I'll bookmark this one - there's a scan of largo on the FA of Piasano, made me dizzy just looking at it

Steve Grossman

Trad climber

Seattle, WA

Jun 10, 2007 - 02:06am PT

Those welding gloves ought to be in a museum.

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Jun 10, 2007 - 03:08am PT

Nope, it was a blue one so it must have ended up in S America somewhere.

nick d

Trad climber

Jun 10, 2007 - 03:08am PT

Mark Wilford told me a very funny story about getting liquored up on the summit of the Eiger after he soloed it and then nearly dying on the descent. He thought it was just a walk-off. What ever happened to him anyway? Little off topic but those great photos made me think of him. He's got a million great stories but I haven't run into him in years. I assume he's still alive, mostly because I figure I would have heard about it from somebody if he wasn't. Also I don't think he can be killed by conventional weapons!

MS

Tarbuster

climber

right here, right now

Jun 10, 2007 - 12:03pm PT

Don't you know it per Wilford.

He's around, I 'seen 'im at climbing industry trade shows.
He would have so many stories, those years with Jello & Skip Guerin, his alpinism, Wilford is the real deal.

Steve Grossman

Trad climber

Seattle, WA

Jun 10, 2007 - 12:06pm PT

A momentary return to the early days of guides, porters and summit drunks! I think I'd be content to hustle my ass down.

Raydog

Trad climber

Boulder Colorado

Jun 10, 2007 - 01:13pm PT

great pics of cult legend Tobin Sorenson - thanks

Jello

Social climber

No Ut

Jun 10, 2007 - 03:23pm PT

Did someone mention Mark Wilford? I thin he deserves his own thread.

Rick A

climber

Boulder, Colorado

Jun 10, 2007 - 11:52pm PT

Steve-
In response to your question, Tobin and Alex MacIntyre climbed the direct with four bivuoacs. By the way, there is an interesting discussion of Tobin's ascent in John Harlin III's new book, The Eiger Obsession.
Rick

Oli

Trad climber

Fruita, Colorado

Jun 11, 2007 - 01:25am PT

Photos of Kor? I guess I'm wondering if someone views him as one of the stonemasters? Are we simply talking about any of the legends of the past?

Steve Grossman

Trad climber

Seattle, WA

Jun 17, 2007 - 09:40pm PT

The connection is a little obtuse but I would sure want to have Kor in my gang. Just thought that the shots were interesting enough to post up in connection with Tobin's ascent.