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e$

Mountain climber
jackson, wy
Topic Author's Original Post - May 8, 2006 - 09:54pm PT
there's a rumor going around that delicate arch was climbed in the past 24h or so...and filmed.

unclear if there was a permit involved, but it seems like a damn selfish move either way.

edit: hit send to soon. wanted to add that it's not as if there aren't thousands of other arches, towers and features to climb within the region.
todd-gordon

climber
May 8, 2006 - 10:19pm PT
I've been eye-balling that thing for years......good for them.....yeah, so it's illigal.... some of my most favorite things in life are illigal.....our government wants so bad to control us and "save" us from ourselves......and if the route was done with care, I don't see a problem......Good on ya!
Elcapinyoazz

Mountain climber
Anchorage, Alaska
May 8, 2006 - 11:41pm PT
Well, better than that as#@&%e photographer who built a fat fire under it one night to shoot pics by firelight. He got a hefty fine around five figures IIRC.

Get 'er soon boys, that one might fall down in our lifetimes.
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
May 8, 2006 - 11:43pm PT
i'm not sure i'm familiar with this formation. Anyone have a photo?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
May 8, 2006 - 11:52pm PT
Nature, its on our license plates!

When i first climbed there I was limited by a rule of "no climbing if it had a name on the USGS maps" (since loosened) but thats why I climbed the Owl. The rock that looked like the owl had fallen from the top decades earlier and the name never made it onto the maps.


Ironically the popularity of the climb might lead to putting it back on the next edition!
Fluoride

Trad climber
on a rock or mountain out west
May 8, 2006 - 11:52pm PT
Delicate Arch is one of the most recognizable formations in the southwest. It's on the Utah license plate.


Oh yeah, and it is SOOOOOO illegal to climb that thing. That sandstone is super delicate (and that arch is the smallest one in Arches NP, thus the name). They had to have done it close to nightime or daybreak cause that thing has a steady stream of tourists hiking up to it at all daylight hours. The only time I've ever been up there alone is late at night when I've hiked up to sit under it during full moons. Otherwise there's people everywhere.

Here's a pic from the opposing angle:
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
May 8, 2006 - 11:59pm PT
now you've done it


NOW YOU'VE DONE IT!!!!



(you've given Ouch ammunition...)
nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
May 9, 2006 - 12:10am PT
I guess I hadn't been paying attention to your license plates. I wasn't familiar with that formation. Thanks for the pict... guess I coulda maybe googled.
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
May 9, 2006 - 12:16am PT

What ASSHOLES!

Juanito
mtn

climber
May 9, 2006 - 12:58am PT
Yes it was climbed. You could have seen it on the local news. And it was video taped so I am sure you can find a copy of it soon on the internet.
elcap-pics

climber
Crestline CA
May 9, 2006 - 01:40am PT
too bad about that.... what good can come from it... I was looking at it close up a couple of month's ago and that thin section, where the rock is weakest looks like it won't last very long, especially if climbers take a liking to the formation. It's named "Delicate Arch" for a reason. Hopefully "our folks" will have the good sense to leave it be now.
David

Trad climber
San Rafael, CA
May 9, 2006 - 09:40am PT
Here's the correct URL bearbnz was trying to post above.

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_3800468

Dean Potter climbs Delicate Arch, one of the most popular sandstone arches, at Arches National Park early Sunday. Authorities are not amused. (Photo courtesy of Dean Potter)

"Patagonia's publicity department initially alerted the media to Potter's ascent, but indicated it may back off on further promotions after learning that Potter may have broken park service regulations."

Duh...Ya think?
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
May 9, 2006 - 10:42am PT
Patagonia is such a f*#king joke. Potter must have a desperate need for attention.


Juanito
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
May 9, 2006 - 10:50am PT
http://www.nps.gov/arch/climb.htm
Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
May 9, 2006 - 10:55am PT
if he can climb it, then anyone who wants to solo it should be able to climb it. if everyone who wants to climb it cannot, then he shouldn't climb it either.

how's he rapping?
maybe fixing a line off the ground and then rapping the line when thrown over the top? maybe he would have a better "who cares" argument if he'd found a way to downclimb it.

either way, i'm not buying that a 200 lb guy will topple something that's not gonna topple real soon on it's own, but i'd rather he acted w/ stealth than aggrivated the gov. land managers, seems pretty dumb to have promoted it like that, and every bit promoted because he is a sponsored climber.

if you or i had climbed it, would we be on the front page? no gracias. croft or bachar? no cameras. reardon? he would get skewered no matter what he did. potter will get a pass because he is potter.


edit-
policy seems clear enough from that site.
if you have to do it, do it quietly (duh)
todd-gordon

climber
May 9, 2006 - 10:58am PT
Way to go Dean....awesome. And hell with our Governments silly rules;....it's a control issure.....I've climbed 25 arches in Arches National Park, ;yeah, some probably on the "illigal" list, although this was a long time ago.....maybe they hadn't made up that "silly" rule yet. Dean did not harm the arch, and don't worry, Superintendent Whoever;.... others will NOT do what Dean did... it's too rad. When I climbed these arches, I soloed them all too.....and they are slippery, sandy, and scary.... but fun. The only sad part is... if Patagonia pulls Dean from sponsership.... he might have to go get a job;....THAT is the REAL sad part. Bravo to Dean's vision, brass balls, and spirit of adventure.
lost

climber
truckee
May 9, 2006 - 11:07am PT
There is no purity in the action if it was documented, that just makes it a P.R. stunt.
Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
May 9, 2006 - 11:07am PT
brick, what if we could sign those two up for a bachar challenge fest? we could keep the public away and sell a live feed on pay-per-view...



edit-
"There is no purity in the action if it was documented, that just makes it a P.R. stunt."

exactly my point, but if it's a show, let's make some real money, rather than sell $100 organic jeans and $140 flannel shirts.
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
May 9, 2006 - 11:08am PT
They will feel the need to make an example of him. About as stupid is lighting white gas on fire in Hidden Valley.

Its the license plate of Utah.

What is he brain dead?
paulj

climber
utah
May 9, 2006 - 11:23am PT
I saw the report last night on the news and then the story in this morning's Salt Lake Tribune.

Thank, Dean, for being such an incredibly selfish idiot. First the slackline and now Delicate Arch. And then to have it announced by your sponsor? Patagonia is even more stupid!

A basic part of nearly every climbing management plan is a prohibition against climbing on any named arch. Oh wait, you're Dean F*#king Potter. The rules don't apply to you, at least according to micronut. And I don't care that you only left chalk, this act certifies you as an undeniably selfish prick.

Folks-and that includes Matt, todd-gordon, and especially Jeremy-there's a helluva a lot of climbers out there and we do impact the resource. Irresponsible acts such as this will cause cause us further headaches. Jeremy, it's not just Potter that will pay the consequences, it will be all of us.

I can't believe that anybody is even defending this guy...

Paul
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